I'm wanting to visit the US again, but last time I went to New York and didn't find it to my taste - it just felt like an American version of London. So I'm wondering which cities might be more like where I'm from and therefore might feel a bit less alien. The criteria I would have are:
> relatively cheap
> not particularly diverse
> historically had economies based on industry or mining
> strong sports/drinking culture
> friendly locals
> not being totally car dominated would be a bonus
So far Pittsburgh seems to be the best fit but I don't know if there's much to do there. Any other places fit the bill, or am I chasing a unicorn?
What a strange thread.
New Bedford, Plymouth, Salem Massachusetts.
I'd say Lowell over Plymouth. Southern MA public transit exists on paper, but it's a real hassle if you want to do more than day trips. Lowell has a factory history and is better connected to the MBTA.
You may consider Boston, although that is incredibly large. Minneapolis used to be good, but it gets very cold and it’s gone a little downhill. Chicago is also cold, but crime is up. Those would be options with public transit.
Just stick to Pittsburgh or Philadelphia if you're not sure. Martinsburg in West Virginia might be just what you're looking for and if you want tour Pennsylvania it's hardly far at all
Winchester resident here. Why the fuck would you suggest Martinsburg to the poor man? If you want a lot of heroin thats good. Stay away from Hagerstown, which is somehow worse. Only good thing is that Martinsburg area has some banging strip clubs, no idea why.
Wheeling would be the better bet, post industrial small city that's not a Complete shothole
Any of the smaller rust belt cities- Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit/AnnArbor, Milwaukee. I might even try to do it all in one long trip. It’s all car dominated, and full of black people, but the rust belt should be the closest in feel to north England in many ways, some of which you’ve already noticed.
go to new england then, friendly and not many coloureds
st john's newfoundland
Some other options- college towns in the South with competitive football teams. Football is taken as seriously as well, as seriously as you take your football. These games fill a stadium with 100000 people- for a non professional team. And there's lots of drinking and partying beforehand. Examples are College Station, Texas and Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Green Bay, Wisconsin might be your best bet. There's few darkies in Wisconsin and Green Bay is a small, has been, shithole city nobody cares about except they have a major NFL team. They play outside in the winter. The stadium sells out. Everybody's drunk.
Being northern is honestly a mental illness
Why the fuck would you want to go to a post industrial shithole for your holiday when you already live in one??
Especially when it will be more grim and more soulless with more crime, homelessness and crackheads.
That being said Philadelphia had a remarkably British feel to it. Many of the homes are made out of that red brick which is common in the north, lots of small parks, loads of history, It even has a Primark.
As someone who enjoys gritty cities myself, I would reccomend Philadelphia and Chicago. Best mix of walkability, grit, public transport, active downtown cores, cool architecture, with good food and activities. Philadelphia in particular is a cool relic of how US cities used to be 15-20 years ago with those old school generational inner city neighborhoods. All the hipsters and gentrification completely skipped it for nearby NYC, so it never really became one of those meme sterilized, globalized cities. Chicago a bit less so, but still tons of cool gritty to explore that are safe and fun, just stay away from the far south side and far west side.
Philadelphia is my least favorite city in the US. The crime is completely insane and it's everywhere. You can't safely walk down South Street in the the middle of the day. When you look at the crime rate, you'd think, "it's bad, but it's not the worst." But you would be wrong. To dilute the crime stats, they include a swath of suburban neighborhoods that are not part of the city. If you look only at the statistics for downtown, it's one of the most violent places in the Western Hemisphere of the entire planet.
Maybe rent a car and go to college towns during football season and attend the games and tailgates, that will get you lots of drunk sports action and maybe pussy with your accent.
Indianapolis meets the criteria
Try the shitty part of New England or Upstate NY