I want to move to vegas and drink myself to death like nick cage in leaving las vegas. bet on sports gambling, drink, buy hookers, party and live life like a hedonistic boomer. what are the pros and cons?
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Why don't you take out like 3 credit cards with huge limits and move to Thailand if you want to frick b***hes and drink. The girls are prettier and you may have a good time and shake the funk off you. Come back, claim you're wallet was stolen and refuse to pay the charges. File bankruptcy and start over.
>the girls are prettier in Thailand
Lololololol
if just talking about the hookers this is definitely accurate
Not OP but any anons move from inland California to Vegas?
For the record I DON'T like casinos. Would that be a problem? I've heard the locals don't go to the strip anyway. Maybe they work there but they hang out other places. I would rather go explore the desert in an offroad vehicle or kayak around the lake than be inside surrounded by geezers smoking and playing slots.
I just want a lower cost place to live for a blue collar wagie that works hard and keeps getting screwed by CA. The latest thing is they want to charge your electric bill by your income. This is after I financed solar on my house so I wouldn't have an electric bill, but now they will add that charge. So they can subsidize the low-income illegals. I'm so sick of this shit.
I could move anywhere really but I don't like snow and cold or religious people. I never really thought about Vegas before because the city didn't interest me but now I am.
I'm not from Cali, but almost moved to vegas, u-turned within 3 days. Just seemed bleak, uneducated, and brown (the people)
It was also sweltering at the time
go to SEA instead.
t. Leaving Pattaya Anon
>moving out of california
Can someone explain why to us non mutt's? Isn't california suppose to have the best food beaches and more progressive towards normal world standards? I think it's the only place actually investing into high speed rail which you burgers need.
stupid high taxes and CoL. even making six figures is still poverty tier.
Yeah but taxes pay for healthcare and such, california has that to pay for free healthcare doesn't it? People hate how "socialist" it is even though the rest of the world is years ahead.
>Yeah but taxes pay for healthcare and such
lol no. those taxes just line pockets for the elite. go to downtown LA and see all the homeless. Cali is the best example of the have and have nots dichotomy in the US, even more so than NYC.
>hates California and New York.
Okay I am done with this thread, take your trash back to
Why are americans so stupid? Oh right they are americans!
i dont hate Cali or NYC. if you have money its fricking fantastic. Santa Barbara, Ventura, Big Sur, its all great if you got the cash to spend. if you are some brokie making less than 250K a year you are sucking, sorry, thats the truth.
>Santa Barbara, Ventura, Big Sur, its all great if you got the cash to spend. if you are some brokie making less than 250K a year you are sucking, sorry, thats the truth.
I live in sweden and we have among the lowest crime rate and most equal fair pay of any place on the PLANET baring Japan. Guess what all these places have in common? Higher taxes to help the welfare of all people for the greater good, lack of guns because fact: you don't need a murder weapon to live life, and help out minorities and other rather than berating them.
You all won't understand it, ever. that's it. I wish I could say more but I will only talk to a brick wall but before you even begin to falsely rebut this keep in mind.
>Never won a war
>no culture
>no real history
>invented "green" nuclear power
>fails constantly at world police larp they do, even ukraine can stop russia LOL It took you all 50 years
>No vacation as you call it to see the world
>lack passports
>obessed with money
>fat
>leader against climate change
>ugly
>racist
I'd continue but it's not worth giving you any further of my time, have a good "life" living in a place that is 50C and has no water.
bro i dont know what kind of flex you are trying for here. Cali is a shithole for anyone that isn't rich, that was my point. hey, its great that your country is super cool like that. more power to you.
And then Sweden decided to let in immigrants from Africa. Now Malmo isn't safe to walk around. Your rapes are up nationally by 500 percent in 5 years. And your country is suffering a healthcare crisis. All it took was a 100,000 black people. Try living a country with 47 million of them.
America has around 1.5 millions of immigrants per year. Sweden has less than a tenth of that. Not only that, but there is no fricking way in hell that the swedish amount of illegal immigrants and overstays nearly approaches the american one.
And i'm sure that you're getting ready to invoke the idea of scaling but what you probably know is that those illegal immigrants do not scatter uniformly across America but rather cram themselves in these giant cities.
France is the perfect example of how welfare doesn't mean shit once you hit high immigration rates and a high pop densities in capital cities.
>Muh Japan
Japan isn't safe because of welfare, Japan is safe because it is a society where the smallest of infraction is enforced. Not only that, but immigration is extremely regulated. Oh, and it's a fricking island, so the only way to illegally get there is if you overstay, meaning you'll always be in a database. California probably has millions of completely and absolutely undocumented immigrants.
Comparing the issues of Sweden, a mid-tier relatively isolated scandinavian country to the USA is insane.
Both countries have their pros and cons and those are also dependent on the region you live in. If you're a young, qualified techie, no denying that you'll save up a good amount working in Palo Alto as you're still young. But past your mid thirties you could consider finding a long term partner and moving to a quieter city with a quieter rythm and have kids there.
Europeans have a fundamental misunderstanding about why Americans have a right to own guns. You would think that a continent that was overrun twice in the last 100 years by Germany might understand why a well armed populus is a good thing. I wonder if we'll come save you next time when the Russians and Chinese come tearing through Paris? Maybe, maybe not.
Nothing to do with my post, moron. Economic problems exist regardless of gun ownership.
>I wonder if we'll come save you next time when the Russians and Chinese come tearing through Paris
>we
You didn't do shit bro. Maybe your ancestors did, but you didn't. And they sure as frick bring their own guns to the fray either, so that literally nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights.I'm all for guns as long as they don't give it to down syndrome morons such as you.
Do you know how much the US spends on criminal justice costs related to guns? Every inmate in California costs taxpayers $50,000 annually. If you see guns and economics as mutually exclusive, you are delusional.
Both of my grandfathers fought in WW2. If the European population had owned guns, maybe my grandparents didn't need to go there save them.
>If you see guns and economics as mutually exclusive, you are delusional.
>Economic problems exist regardless of gun ownership.
who said anything about mutual exclusion, moron
I'm not sure you know what you're arguing about. You seem like a delusional schizo with anger issues. I'm just going to assume the other guy is right that guns are causing economic problems in the US because you seem genuinely insane in your previous disjointed rambling posts.
I am simply saying that the economic problems in the cities I mentioned were independent of gun control, and anon thought that a lack of correlation implied that the two notions were mutually exclusive, which is a fallacy on his part. He is a dumbfrick and so are you (who am I kidding, samegay) for agreeing with him
The original post I cited was presenting a counter argument to the theory that a welfare state was the best solution to combat issues related to the social and economic decay of major cities and urban areas. Legalizing guns won't change the crime statistics or might do so marginally. You'll still be paying the same amount of taxes.
reminder mutts blew up this rather than fixing their healthcare
You can't fix a system where you add 1 million illegal immigrants to your country every year. The best you can do is try to stay afloat.
Frenchie, people shit on LA, SF and NYC for the same reasons french people shit on Paris. These cities are a bloated mess of surrealist economic expectations that warp the minds of everyone living in there. The rent prices are easily around double what can be found in Paris.
In a perfect world where offer and demand isn't influenced by external factors, the city usually reaches an equilibrium as the city stops growing because rent prices are so high people simply do not want to live there anymore. Growth is also stunted by the fact that wagies are flexible geographically and low qualifications job can be found everywhere, so they'd rather just skip town.
The issue is, illegal immigrants do not follow any of these rules. They need to be in a place with high anonymity and a high concentration of jobs. They do not give a frick about renting an unhygienic illegal bunk bed since they do not work with contracts. And liberals actively cover for them thinking they're doing a good thing as service wages plummet food stays """"relatively""" cheap (but was always cheap in the us anyway before the recent inflation) but rents stay super high.
This literally has nothing to do with pol talking points. Megacities are a horrible place filled with depressed people with drug issues and unrealistic expectations for everything : work performance, appearances, money, and buying power. A lot of the stuff that you see being advertised to the common folk are things no one in their right mind should ever consider buying, and any friendly attempt at grounding someone in reality usually results in the person getting offended. Like bro, if half your salary goes into your rent, maybe you shouldn't spend your savings on a rolex.
Carlin used to call these cities giant shopping malls, but now it's worse. They're luxury shopping malls now. If you're too poor for Prada, you're too poor for these cities.
I have the wokest identity in this thread (black transgender European. Yes Europeans are black). and "pol" is totally right about California and New York State. I used to be like you thinking it was the only sane part of America but I changed my mind after following the news on Covid. I've seen videos of San Francisco post lockdown. Homeless tents and cracked out zombies everywhere. Street covered in trash. , Either there or LA or both's rental market has been destroyed by eviction bans. Small time landlords have gone bust because tenants owe them like 50k rent and don't have to move out. And don't get me started on the vax mandates, so many people lost their jobs over that. I saw video of a 5 year old being kicked out of a NYC restaurant by cops for having no vax pass. I forgot to add I think San Francisco has some lawyer that is literally the son of some 1970s Marxist terrorist who has released all the prisoners. It's a shame because I heard the transgender scene is good there but that seems to always line up with the place being a neoliberal hellhole so maybe pol is right about that as well.
As for guns I used to be anti gun until I met some American friends on SighSee. I see their side of it, legal gun owners aren't the problem, it's mentally ill and criminals. And you have to think what does the government have to gain from disarming the populace? Would i want guns in my country? Probably not, people wouldn't be able to handle it but I'm not strongly anti gun anymore.
California doesn't have free healthcare, well, not really. You're required to have health insurance. That comes out of your paycheck, or you pay for it, like in the rest of the country. If you can't afford it, and that means you have to be gigapoor not just lower class, the state will help out, I guess. This includes if you are illegal though, which I loathe. They all work under the table (for cash) and claim they're poor and get free shit.
>more progressive towards normal world standards
That's why I don't want to live here.
The beaches and mountains are rad ngl. I don't like living in a progressive environment, not do I like paying for it. I own guns and an offroad vehicle. If they actually built a high speed train it might be worth it but they just give free shit to the worthless.
>own guns and an offroad vehicle. If they actually built a high speed train it might be worth it but they just give free shit to the worthless.
Ah nevermind you're a
baiting idiot. THe world doesn't need cars, watch not just bikes, and the world doesn't need guns outside those who keep us safe.
Don't care. This is why I don't want to live in California anymore. It felt like the rest of the US when I was a kid, but doesn't anymore. No I don't have any interest in living in a more "progressive" society like Denmark or whatever. Sorry.
I'm French but currently enjoying Sweden for my better life, I plan to visit america soon but only sticking to Los Angeles, San Francisco(for the star trek places), and San Diego. I may go to Vegas for a bit if you all complete the high speed rail soon, but until then I plan to go to hawaii. I doubt you'll ever go because you can't drive there with your ford truck or whatever and get cheeseburgers every stop.
Your country and people are brainwashed, you do nothing to help the world only hurt it, if you would simply listen to what the rest of the world has been doing for more centuries than your "country" that has never won a war btw, you'd understand this. It's sad, almost pathetic that you all think this is a "good" way to live, I pity you. Your family must be of weak blood to have such backwards standards for life.
Didn’t we have to save your pathetic French ass in WW2? Or am I totally misremembering the part where frogs were giant homosexuals and got dunked on
Actually nvm don’t even answer I know your tiny euro brain is just gonna write a seething essay about america that I’m not gonna read
>he world doesn't need guns outside those who keep us safe.
yeah bro, its not like the US cops just randomly beat men to death or something. The only reason officer jimmy thinks twice about kicking a door in to thump your skull is because he might catch a shell or two, not because he might get reprimanded back the station.
I lived in Vegas for about two years and I've been in Orange County California for 10.
Vegas is significantly cheaper. You can still get a nice house for around 200K . House prices in Socal are literally 4-5 times higher than vegas. There are a lot of good jobs in vegas. I had a really chap grocery store across the street in vegas where I could most food for half what I pay in California. From october-may, the weather in vegas is pretty good. The winters are mild and windy. Fall and Spring are great. But summers are hell. I spent every free day of the summer sneaking into casino pools. The crime in vegas is pretty bad too. If you end up in a cheap apartment complex, you'll definitely have issues like car break ins, loud neighbors, barking dogs, transients in the parking lot breaking into cars, etc. You have to move to the west side in Summerlin to get away from the crime. The other problem I had in vegas was all the smokers. I have asthma and it was always a problem. People smoke in malls. They banned that in California 40 years ago. I wouldn't live in Vegas again unless I was desperate. It's fun for a year or two in your 20's, especially when the age of consent is 16 and you can date high school sophomores.
The summers don't seem too bad. I live in the IE so... probably a little hotter in Vegas but more dry. Orange County of course is beautiful in the summer but I don't have that kind of money and don't want to downgrade and live in a shoebox mexican apartment complex with no parking just to be closer to the beach/cool weather.
I've heard the crime is bad, worse than people realize. And I've never like the way people in Vegas drive, zero fricks given
>explain california to a non mutt
Easy
>Everyone flocking to it means not enough housing for demand, causing prices to skyrocket
>Eviction bans/squatter protection mean landlords fricked and future renters screwed as homes are not vacated in time
>Endless mandatory bureaucratic fees and inspections for fricking everything public and private
>Home remodels also need a billion fees, inspections and permits
>Illegals destroying healthcare infrastructure from costs, hospitals going bankrupt and shutting down from guaranteed free emergency care
>Homeless crack zombies everywhere, safe mini-homes for them mostly vacant because of the "no drug use" requirement to stay in them
>High Speed Rail costs projected to have doubled/tripled to approx $100bn, almost no work had begun for years despite securing some funding, practical nightmare
>Lax on crime prosecution, people now tend to leave windows down and cars unlocked so that their cars aren't destroyed by thieves who will not be arrested
>Theft under $900 goes unpunished causing stores to close everywhere
>Insane traffic and air pollution (smog)
>moronic policies constantly backfiring (swap to electric cars!!! --> stop charging the cars our power grid is failing because of them!!!)
>Anti-Business regulation and bureaucracy, ranked worst state for business operation and creation nationally
>Excessive regulations for environment, business, fricking everything
>Prohibitively expensive cost of living
>LA people are the fakest, most self-centered motherfrickers on the planet who will do anything for a crumb of fame
>Highest income, sales, corporate, gas tax in the country, tried to somehow tax people who fled the state and no longer reside in Cali
>Lawsuit hellhole where anything can bring you to court and cost millions to resolve
>Violent Crime rate sky high
>Some of the worst gun laws in the country
>Wildfires every summer, earthquakes all the time
Turns out that good food, nice beaches and fantastic weather isnt enough
Henderson and South Vegas are upscale generic suburbs an easy drive from the Strip, while others (like North Las Vegas) are full of ghetto bullshit, drugs and crime. Las Vegas is one of the most racially integrated cities in the US, having been built in the modern race-mixing age. Summers are horribly hot, with low temps as high as 90 during the hottest months and daytime highs above 100 for months on end. Winters are cold and windy, with days in the 40s and 50s and freezing nights.
I don't understand how anyone can take Vegas at peak Summer. Do they just spend all day locked inside AC cooled buildings?