Ive never been here before. I got 2 weeks to kill, where should I spend it? I got an online friend in Sydney but that's about it. Im a young guy, looking to have fun and enjoy the sights. Are hostels a big thing in Aus?
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Ive never been here before. I got 2 weeks to kill, where should I spend it? I got an online friend in Sydney but that's about it. Im a young guy, looking to have fun and enjoy the sights. Are hostels a big thing in Aus?
Im planning this trip for later this year btw... What time of year is best?
If you want beaches, south East QLD. Stay on the southern end of the Gold Coast (ideally south of Burleigh Heads). You can cross the border into NSW which has some of the best rated beaches in the country at Cabarita and Pottsville.
If you want city vibes, go to Melbourne.
If you want a variety of landscapes, go to Tasmania. Most of our mainland has beautiful but samey landscapes for hours on end, whereas Tassy you can see a variety within a few hours drive.
Avoid Sydney. Maybe a day or two to see the famous Harbourside shit, but it is a soulless bugman city. The conservative state government has squeezed any life out of it over the years, there's fuck all to do there now except gamble your pay away and buy overpriced shit. Everything Sydney can offer a tourist is done 4x better by the 3 places I've mentioned.
Personally if I had to spend 2 weeks here I'd spend 8 days touring Tasmania in a van and the rest chilling in Burleigh Heads or Coolangatta on the Gold Coast.
this is a useful post also cairns and great barrier reef if it's dry season (April to October).
Also to expand on beaches the Sunshine coast (north of brisbane is also amazing)
Sunshine coast is ok if you want something very chilled out. No real party season, more of a family destination.
I'd suggest avoiding the school holiday seasons, it gets stupidly busy.
Op wants roasties
In Sydney you can do half a day at Bondi, then half a day in the city.
And then on another day go up to the blue mountains via train do a bit of sightseeing there).
>I got 2 weeks to kill, where should I spend it?
In Thailand.
I don't want the clap
>Go to Cairns to see the great barrier reef.
Nice, that's a good suggestion.
What's the best month to go? Im from florida so some heat is okay...gold coast weather seems perfect and Im thinking september or so would be a decent time to go...
Hostels are a thing, yes.
The big destinations are Sydney, Uluru and Cairns.
If you're really into beaches and degenerate partying, the Gold Coast is popular.
But there are heaps of options, so I'd suggest either picking something obvious or doing some research on travel websites, its a massive country with a shitload of beaches, national parks, and big cities if you're into that.
Gold Coast is nothing like Florida, in summer it's warm but if you're from Florida it won't bother you at all. Winter isn't bad either because its still a comfortable temperature.
Cairns on the other hand is much more tropical so you're probably better off going in winter. (To state the obvious, our seasons are inverted to yours, I'm talking in our seasons).
>Winter isn't bad either because its still a comfortable temperature.
>Cairns on the other hand is much more tropical so you're probably better off going in winter.
that's why im thinking late september/early october so it's mild all around. Beaches are cool, don't need to see a whole lot being that im from Florida though but I'll check it out. Definitely going to see the great barrier reef, spend a weekend in sydney. The blue mountains sound interesting enough to add to the itinerary. Il check out more things along the east coast... Shooting for half and half nature and urban exploration
Melbourne is probably the only place worth visiting for 'urban exploration'. Sydney is ok but its mostly just the beach and taking photos at the harbour with the Chinese tourists.
>What's the best month to go? Im from florida so some heat is okay...gold coast weather seems perfect and Im thinking september or
September is perfect. It's extremely hot and humid there in summer, so you kind of just want to avoid that, it's tropical enough the rest of the year already.
Everything south of where Brisbane is, including, is fine in summer.
Case and point, it's the middle of summer now, and if you were to go to North Queensland, this is what you're going to get
>I don't want the clap
You're just as likely to get it in Australia. In any case you don't have to go to Thailand as a sex tourist, there is plently of normal stuff to do there and it is easy to travel to other countries in SEA on the cheap. Way better value and bang for buck than Australia.
>Australia is not the place you come to for fun as a young dude.
100% There's some nice beaches and shit but it is just a mini-America and an overpriced and less exciting one at that.
>Is it really so bad that I should never visit?
Wait until you're an old dude and come to Australia on one of those guided boomer trips and see the national parks and wildlife and crap. Otherwise it's mostly just a few overpriced, overcrowded touristy places that at the end of the day aren't all that exciting. Sure there are beautiful beaches here but you also have that in SEA. Plus in Asia you have a totally different culture, vibe, food, interesting and even confronting experiences and loads more fun. Also much better value for money overall.
>What exactly is it that makes Thailand better?
Warm all year round, nice beaches, great food, loads of interesting and beautiful places to visit, close and easy to get to other Asian countries, like Cambodia (picrel), vastly different and interesting culture, place of contrasting cultures and attitudes, more dynamic and vibrant, cheaper alcohol, cheaper accomodation, transport etc.
>Are you just talking about sex?
No.There is loads to do in Thailand and Asia apart from sex. You can easily spend a month there, have a lot of fun and not have sex.
Seconded. Australia is not the place you come to for fun as a young dude. Its basically a retirement village.
The best part as a tourist is the natural sights, but they're all far and wide apart. You'll burn multiple days just traveling and not having fun.
Lastly its expensive. All the touristy shit involving staff is a rort. You can do some of it for free, but that again takes more time and effort.
Is it really so bad that I should never visit? It's somewhere I wanted to go for a while now. What exactly is it that makes Thailand better? Are you just talking about sex? Fucking loads of whores sounds fun but that's not the main purpose of this trip
Its not bad if you really wanna visit Australia, for the unique fauna or the multitude of clean empty beaches around the coast etc. Plus its one of the safest and civilized countries on Earth and the people are generally friendly so you wont face any hassle exploring the place.
But its generally boring otherwise. The night life is pathetic. Sydney and Melbourne is full of immigrants so if you're going to hang out with white people in the city, you'll be disappointed. The food isnt bad with lots of quality asian restaurants, but not world famous either.
Theme parks are shit. Shopping is shit. Very few historical monuments or good museums because the country is young. Comedy scene is shit. Events are few and far between. Sports are shit. Prostitution is legal, but its not prevalent and the affordable whores are asian girls anyway. Maybe if you wanna get drunk its ok but not in Sydney cause everything closes early.
Question is what are you really looking for in a holiday?
>the night life is pathetic
Sydneysider fingers posted this
>Question is what are you really looking for in a holiday?
I'd like to see nature, meet some locals, get drunk at the bar, and meet up with my local friend that I've not met irl before. I'm fine if I spend more than a few days in nature. Australia in particular is somewhere I've wanted to see for myself so I figure this is a good time to do it.
A preliminary plan I've made is this: I can spend the first few days around gold coast hitting beaches and driving along the coast, spend a weekend in sydney, then I could see some nature in NSW and Victoria for the following week, and then I could end my trip with a weekend in melbourne. I figure that's plenty of time to meander around without overextending myself. I'm thinking of staying at a hostel when I'm in the cities but I do have to carry 2 weeks worth of luggage with me so maybe not.
>The night life is pathetic. Sydney and Melbourne is full of immigrants so if you're going to hang out with white people in the city, you'll be disappointed
That sucks for sure... any way around that? I was going to get drunk with my friend for at least 1 weekend.
So do you think I should stay in South eastern Australia? Some youtubers said Western Australia is underrated, but it seems very empty and far away from the bulk of the experience.
>adelaide
Would you recommend visiting Adelaide?
That sounds pretty Kino not gonna lie, but I don't think I have the time to go to the Northern Territories. Maybe if I fly, but driving from Darwin to Brisbane would probably take my whole trip. I'll think about that. and as this anon
mentioned, What do you think about driving around Tasmania?
>The locals are not very friendly either.
Is that just the aussie bantz? how were they rude?
Nice, how's the weather like there now?
Ignore the doomers on the nightlife, Sydney is a bit shit for a city of its size, but is still fine and Melbourne is great. Brisbane also has great nightlife and Gold Coast is good in a slightly seedier way. Not to mention you can have fun in a pub in most mid sized towns.
Tasmania, South Australia and Western Australia are all great but if you've only got 2 weeks, you'll be wasting a lot of time traveling. Also tassie is great but it's not typical australia that most tourist want to see.
It's an unusually cold summer, but its supposed to be getting hotter
>driving from Darwin to Brisbane would probably take my whole trip.
It's 5 days drive taking it very slow. That gives you 4 days in Darwin 5 days in Brisbane.
>Nice, how's the weather like there now?
probably terrible but I havent checked recently
how will I like it if I don't really have anything bad to say about Brits personally?
>how will I like it if I don't really have anything bad to say about Brits personally?
Theres a few retarded backpackers around. English are absolute cunts, but Germans are most common and they're just autists. Swedes are autists. French are dirty and poor.
Cairns is fine. Nothing special but the retarded english teenagers wont change it for you
I'm probably on team retarded backpacker.
my plan is to do basically this
except start in Cairns and im not doing it for a degree
>I'm probably on team retarded backpacker.
Youll have fun. If you're going to Perth there will also be Estonians, who are also autists.
Top Tip, spend $500 on a riggers ticket and get a job with LinkForce or Minprovise. They will take any retard and pay minimum $50/h.
I'm 27 and it seems like virtually everyone heading to Aus for backpacking is like 18, not sure how much mingling i'll do
that seems pretty neat
>I'm 27 and it seems like virtually everyone heading to Aus for backpacking is like 18,
Nah, theyre either just out of high school ~18, or just out of uni ~22. But theyre still hot enough to run a dick through. I was 26 and only felt old once or twice. Girls dont like 18 year olds. Mingle as much as you can.
And yes, dont get dragged into the waitressing, fruit picking nonsense. Get a on the mines.
just out of curiosity are you Australian or a former backpacker?
Also really weirdly I've been kicking around the idea of working in a mine, just in general
Australian. But at 26 I threw it all in and traveled around Australia. Of course that doesnt give the real backpacker experience, but pretty close.
To work on a mine you need at a minimum a Working at Heights certificate. I havent paid for one in years but im guessing $200. And to actually get hired you'll probably need a Dogging Ticket and a Basic Rigging ticket. Which is now I think of it is probably $1000 all up.
But you it will be $50/h, 12h/day, at least 7 days straight on site with zero expenses (unless you buy a coffee in the morning). Dont get sucked into the exploitative cafe/fruitpicker bullshit.
>Dont get sucked into the exploitative cafe/fruitpicker bullshit
Oh man, back when I was in construction I blew all my money buying myself lunch at a gas station every day instead of making my own lunch; never going back.
I'll check that out though, thanks anon
>I blew all my money buying myself lunch at a gas station every day instead of making my own lunch; never going back.
Everything is paid for, breakfast, lunch, and tea, and they usually have a half decent coffee machine.
No joke I make $200k a year (you wont, youll only be a shitkicker) and the bank just doesn't accept how little I spend. Every time I go for a loan I get accused of lying about my expenditure.
>No joke I make $200k a year
shiet, so all i gotta do is work in a mine? that's like 160k usd right
Get your riggers ticket, work for the labour hire, become a supervisor, swap over to the mine company, make management, and yeah you can do $200k.
If you have a vag it will take maybe 2 years. If not maybe 5 years.
how hard is it to make management
Do you have a vag?
Just looked at rigging courses and they all seem to be about $1200
>I'd like to see nature, meet some locals, get drunk at the bar
If you like wine, consider the Hunter Valley. 2h North of Sydney, great nature/scenery, full of wineries, and there's a decently big tourism industry based around the vineyards.
>Would you recommend visiting Adelaide?
Adelaide has fantastic food, an actual nightlife district (Hindley/Rundle St, but their sidestreets are where the real fun is, with heaps of fantastic cocktail bars, especially Peel St & Leigh St), and is very easy to commute around, along with being far cheaper than Melbourne and Sydney.
As far as beaches go, Adelaide has a lot of nice ones, though if you prefer warmer water and more of a beachside culture, then you'd want Queensland.
If you're coming to Adelaide, there's also a fair few worldclass wineries less than a half hour out of the CBD, and a great deal of great distilleries and breweries. If you're not a drinker, there's fantastic walking trails through the parklands and the Adelaide Hills. It's pretty easy to get to nature from Adelaide too.
Ignore them
I will say the more time and money you have the better, but you can absolutely have a fun two weeks here. Do your research to get the most out of it.
Gold Coast
Go to Cairns to see the great barrier reef.
You can fly cheaply between the golden triangle cities (Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne).
North Queensland is flooded and fucked right now friend.
I've been travelling round aus for 2 months now. Keep in mind this country is straight up fucking huge. Like the size of the USA or China. Bit like hardly any people. Just "seeing the sights" as has been said before is like multiple day bus rides or planes etc.
And to be honest the cities in terms of being a tourist probably won't have much for you (don't get me wrong it's pretty cool walking round melbkurne or taking the ferry in sydney), but in terms of actually living here, like immigrating I've never been to a country more civilized or 1st world ever. I'm literally going to move here, probably melbkurne or sydney haven't decided. These big cities here are like modern, safe, good public transport, everything works on time, it's great and so easy. Even melblurne has like this network of trams all round the city, and it's totally free.
But I'll give you some advice - the northern territory is a fucking abo infested shithole and should be avoided at all costs. Basically anything north of brisbane is shit. Hell even brisbane is kinda gay. Townsville is some cracked out Bogan shithole. Cairns is just full of British gays trying to sell you "tours".
Honestly if you came here and just went melbourne, sydney, and left you wouldn't really have missed much. Keep in mind these "sights" are like in the fucking hellscape of the desert or the fucking rainforest it's like 38 degrees swarming with bugs and humidity. It's hell. Like who actually fucking cares about going somewhere, "ticking something off" if you're just miserable as fuck? The fucking flies in the desert are unreal, they literally fly UP your nose.
If you had kids I don't think you could raise them in a more civilized 1st world city than adelaide.
>everything works on time
haha
HAHAHAHA
>Even melblurne has like this network of trams all round the city, and it's totally free
based fare evader
I live in Adelaide for uni
Fucking boring place
Moving to Netherlands
What's the bet you never strayed off Hindley St on a night out. 90% of people who say Adelaide's boring are boring themselves and don't look anywhere.
>But I'll give you some advice - the northern territory is a fucking abo infested shithole and should be avoided at all costs. Basically anything north of brisbane is shit. Hell even brisbane is kinda gay. Townsville is some cracked out Bogan shithole. Cairns is just full of British gays trying to sell you "tours".
This is literally a guide of all the best places to go, OP. It's like how to find the best night clubs you search "pretentious".
>British gays
Oxymoron
Go to Darwin. It's small, friendly, good drinking culture, go see Litchfield, go to a hot spring, see a crocodile, do whatever degenerate backpacker stuff.
Then drive to Adelaide. You'll get the mindless expanse of driving for days and seeing nothing, this is litterally the most unique thing about Australia and so many city fags miss it by just going Sydney to Cairns, eat bad food at the service stations, be excited to roll into some shithole town and even more excited when you leave 20min later, see the big rock, sleep under the stars, see the abos brawl in the street YOU DAAAAAWWGG CUUUUNT.
Then spend some time in Adelaide. You'll get the generic Australian city experience, they really are all the same, eat some Asian food, Adelaide beaches are better than anywhere except WA.
You could also drive Darwin to Brisbane and get much the same experience. Go to Mt Isa for the abo street brawls and the tourist mine, Longreach for the Qantas museum.
It was ok but far too expensive for a country that is supposedly self sufficient. I remember being shocked at the price of fruit and veg, not to mention beer and cigarettes. The locals are not very friendly either.
Lol, go to New Zealand then. As A kiwi im shocked at how CHEAP food is in Australia
Im taking a backpack on a one way ticket to Cairns and Im mad excited. Nervous though
It's fucking hot and full of derros, the reef and rainforest is nice though. I wouldn't stay there longer than a week or 2 tbh
Honestly a lot of people have told me the same. My plan is to get my 88 days done there as a dive instructor and get away from the city itself as much as I can camping, etc. Didnt know about the homeless though
Cairns is fucking vile.
>full of morons
>also teeming with vile British tourists
>no beach, just a shitty pool where said British tourists laze about half naked like the VILE cunts they are
>hot as fuck, like vile hit
>humid as well
>horrible mangrove forests
>big signs everywhere like don't swim crocodiles will eat you
>one big vile mall for the whole city
Only good thing about cairns is the fruit market. That's it. Just a vile hot tourist and moron ridden shithole.
>Only good thing about cairns is the fruit market. That's it.
Nah. Good things about Cairns;
- good tropical rain in the arvos
- pub on every corner
- sitting on the pub verandah as it pisses down
- bombing scooters through the hills
- having a cute 40kg Taiwanese coolie pedal your rishshaw home after the pub
Vile brit.
This guy again.
Does anyone know how backpackers find long term housing? Or should I just GTFO of Cairns? Everyone I've spoken to whos been through there has told me that the town is mid at best, and that Im better off finding my way to Perth for diving work or Sydney/Melbourne for hospitality
Also not that this matters, but wouldnt Australians in general be sick of backpackers, particularly American ones? A friend of mine told me I'd be a bit of a rarity as its mostly European gap year kids, but who knows. Asking because I primarily work as a bartender in tourist towns and I get sick of them myself
When you get to a new city you'll likely hold up in a hostel until you find a place to rent on facebook or gumtree. How long that takes all depends on your standards. Many backpacker oriented jobs will provide housing. And many backpackers are too lazy anyways and just live longterm in hostels.
When I was there, it seemed like there was more work in Port Douglas than Cairns. But if you are a bartender just get your tickets and start asking around. There's bars on every corner in Australia.
Nobody cares that you are American. People are more sick of eurotrash hippies.
Got my working holiday visa
Will be in Perth for 3 months to settle down and do 176 days in some rural outback fuckhole so I can get my 2 extra years and then do a degree and get a TSS
I'm sorry Aussiefriends I know you're full but I gotta escape
Where you from champ? And you better not say India.
I am from Melbourne but I am confused about Cairns for sure.
Adelaide is not a tourist city, it's a livable city.
GL Aussie with no friends and see's two people once every 3 years outside work friends...
Malaysia
I might have to move in canberra, is it really as some bad as some people say?
Consider that I already live in a very small city, so I'm not too sensible to the "no nightlife" thing.
Canberra has lots of bars and clubs - it’s just small.
>canberra, is it really as some bad as some people say?
Small, ultra middle class city. Expensive rent.
Being small means great livability, easy to get around, bush just down the road, city is 20min away max. Super middle class means very few deros, abos, lebs, scummy teenagers, Holden Captiva drivers; also plenty of restaurants, clothes shops, fancy pubs. Expensive rent because of all the middle class NIMBY politics.
Canberras good. I'd live there again.
sounds neat, let's see if the offer an actual good position.
Will be a difficult choice between that and NZ
OP here. Should I up this trip to 3 weeks? or or should I go to Europe instead
Everyone who comes here has the times of their lives.
Just go to Japan or New Zealand.
I fucking live in Aus and can barely motivate myself to go on holidays here.
You could possibly stretch Tasmania, North Queensland, a few coastal beaches and Kakadu national park as the highlights but that will be 3 days spent on packing, planes and airports.
>Just go to Japan or New Zealand.
I'm not ruling out Japan, since the flight time's going to be about the same but staying there is much cheaper. Plus it's more interesting of a culture change. If I end up going elsewhere besides Australia it will probably end up being cost since your country is quite expensive.
Still, I'd rather your country for a bit since I'm already planning to go to other non-english speaking places this year and I would like to spend some time abroad without the headache of translation for once.
Not sure how New Zealand compares but I can't see myself going there in place of Australia. I'm sure it's beautiful and all, but I'd like warmer weather for this trip. Do you think it would be exciting as a solo traveler with all that time?
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Two recommendations
1) Great Barrier Reef, Whitsaundays Islands, White haven beach
2) Tasmania. Maintain hikes. Salmon oysters. Hobart
Is it actually easy to get laid because of the male/female ratio there or is that just a tired meme that just won't die. A friend of mine had "confirmed it" but he is more or less a good looking dude that doesn't have much issue regardless
Australia's Gender Ratio is .99 males to females. Compared to USA's .97. So I can't see any reason to believe that's the case. It could be something that USED to be true, something that's true regionally, or most likely it's just a bullshit rumor
I've heard its more that Australian women considered the local men undesirable compared to foreigners because Aussie men like to get drunk with their mates and slap the woman when they come home around whereas Americans go overboard trying to impress the women they date. This may be a generational thing.
Incel losers trying to use spreadsheets to justify women's disgust at their poor genetics
Here's a map of sex ratio by country
>Blue represents more males than the world average of 1.01 males/females.
gold coast looks so based at night i was surprised
Any reason why only 2 weeks?
Like other anons said; must do's:
>Melbourne for nightlife, food, culture/city/architecture - Great Ocean road is awesome too
>Gold Coast for beaches, hinterland, party-esque vibe
>Cairns (Port Douglas) for scenery, snorkelling, wildlife/rainforest, good backpacking scene
That's pretty much your two weeks.
>Tasmania if you have time and want a quieter/more NZ vibe with mountains/unique coastlines
>WA has awesome reefs/beaches but it's to far away from everything else to justify in such a short trip.
>Adelaide for wineries, but same sort of experience can be done at the Victorian peninsulas/Yarra Valley.
>Sydney is pretty meh but go for a day or two if you want to check out Manly/Bondi and the harbour. Blue Mountains is cool, but can do Grampians in Victoria instead too.
well im thinking of 3 now actually. just depends on if my job approves of it. I can't do more than that.
Kind of unrelated but what the fuck is wrong with renting in Australia?
I'm going there for work and it looks like you always need to book an inspection (obviously in working hours) before you can rent a unit. How am I supposed to do this from Europe?
Guess I will have to stay in an airbnb for the first few months.
Renting is fucked in Queensland atm because over 100,000 people left Victoria due to lockdowns
Go to the middle of the country
It's full.
I've been thinking about driving round the continent next year (2024 - I like long road trips). I'd have 6m of time and money to do it in. Visa not a problem. I'd start at Melbourne to see family and then move around.
Has any anon done this? is it based?
Do it. Just make sure to get a 4wd car that's converted to live inside.
Are you the guy that would openly masturbate in the male dorm room I was in? Otherwise no, there's plenty of older 20's people. Work a farm job and you'll lose the weight.
Im not but should I start doing that?
Get a 4wd or openly masturbate? Either way yes.
Am I gonna stick out like a sore thumb as a fat awkward 27 year old
Literally interact with Australians as little as possible. They are such a shitty bunch, IQ of about 70 but when it comes to scamming and cheating people it jumps to 200. They are not scummy in the hahaha Chad alpha way, they literally will rob you and beat the shit out of you for a laugh and the women are loud rowdy cunts who take like 4 dicks a day. Even the dreadlocks hippy skater bro types are absolute subhuman criminal scum who will steal your shit
jesus christ anon did an Australian fuck your girlfriend