Do you like the business class? is it worth it?
I will fly to Japan in October, thinking about paying for business class to be comfy.
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Do you like the business class? is it worth it?
I will fly to Japan in October, thinking about paying for business class to be comfy.
For overnight flights it's worth it (if you've got the money for spare) for the additional seating space you get. Lobby access and complimentary drinks/food are negligible tbh.
I fly budget airlines and stay in hostels. More because I'm young but could see me getting over that shit when I'm older
>t. 26 with a humble 300k net worth
> Do you like the business class?
Absolutely. It is an undeniably superior experience.
>is it worth it?
To me, personally, not quite. I only fly business when someone else is paying or I’ve been upgraded. For many of the routes I’ve flown, a business class ticket can cost close to ten times as much, and I can’t stomach spending ten thousand of my own dollars just to fly even if I could technically afford it. If I flew business class all the time I would end up traveling a lot less than I want to.
But for a once-in-a-couple-of-years big trip, long-haul, it might be worth splurging, particularly if you can find a relatively good deal (not all biz tickets cost 10K, you can find them for less than half that, occasionally a lot less). It will be a more restful flight, no question, and if you’ve never experienced it before, the free drinks and lounge access and low-key ass-kissing from service staff will probably be fun. I don’t drink alcohol and like the poster above think lounges are generally overrated (I prefer simply to spend as little time as possible in the airport), but it’s impossible to deny that the seats/beds are a lot more comfortable.
how do you get upgraded to business? is it down to how charming/ attractive you are or is there a system to be gamed?
It's a system of available seats, overbooking, airline status and ticket categories.
It happened with me once on emirates. I wasn't able to onlinecheck in before the flight, they told me they will do the checkin personally. When I got there they told me that it was a mistake on their ends, but now all the economy seats are taken so I get a business one
Usually it comes down to being lucky
>how do you get upgraded to business? is it down to how charming/ attractive you are or is there a system to be gamed?
It’s a question of airline miles and status, period. I don’t think it’s a system that anybody who doesn’t already fly a lot can realistically game. Credit card programs might get you a “free” ticket or two, maybe let you cash in for the odd upgrade, but you aren’t getting upgraded for nothing unless you fly a lot. I just happened to cling to the bottom tiers of gold status for a couple of years.
And I don’t believe for a second that anyone has ever simply charmed his way into a free upgrade.
>I don’t believe for a second that anyone has ever simply charmed his way
You're right, no man has ever done it. Women however can, especially milfs traveling without a partner. Probably because they can still show some T&A but don't act like bimbo zoomies
>Lobby access and complimentary drinks/food are negligible tbh.
You can get free drinks on economy if you don't fly shitter western airlines. Also $50 gets you into most airport lobbies anyways. Both of those are still way cheaper than business. So it really is just about the space. Still worth it for a Japanese flight assuming it's over 10 hrs
You are vastly overestimating how much decision power over upgrades checkin agents have.
> Women however can, especially milfs traveling without a partner. Probably because they can still show some T&A but don't act like bimbo zoomies
Even this, I think, is not really a thing, fantasies aside, more than once in a million flights. When an upper tier cabin doesn’t check in full, there’s an automated upgrade waitlist triggered for anybody with status with the airline who happens to be checked in for coach, and after that, any seats that remain get flagged for agents to sell as upgrades. There is no way some ground agent can get away with bumping a more frequent flier in favor of some trophy wife he just likes the look of unless she’s also gold status or better with the alliance or she’s paying for it. People raise stinks about this shit. There is no customer more annoying than a low-end-but-still-status customer who thinks he’s been cheated out of something he should be entitled to.
>First class is best,
True but you’ve never done it (and IMO the difference isn’t worth it)
>you get a private cabin
On a total of seven airlines in the world, last time I checked, yeah. Most airlines that still have a first class cabin (as you may or may not actually know, the trend since before you were born has been to phase out First and improve biz; real three-cabin flights are comparatively rare nowadays) just give you a larger version of what you get in business class with fancier menus and a much larger toilet.
>and on Arab airlines if your a frequent flyer this can happen
No, it can’t. Good friend of mine basically commutes between Switzerland and the UAE, is in suites on Etihad and one of the other Gulf carriers multiple times a year. The air crews know him by name and keep track of where he’s been (“Oh, Mr. Rich, welcome back! How was your mountaineering vacation in Nepal?”), but no, they don’t blow him. Flight attendant schedules are too tight for that, even up front—there are only going to be one or maybe two young women looking after what might be eight passengers. That’s simply too many blowjobs to realistically fit into a flight alongside four or five meal/snack/drink services to deliver and clear away, etc. She’d have to skip one of her mandatory rest periods up in the weird little secret overhead-bin beds; you can get fired for that!
They’re also mostly not hijabi (that woman looks… maybe Sudanese? None of the Gulf carriers have any Arab women flight attendants I’ve ever seen), and this is a SFW board.
Fun fantasy, though.
>inb4 some dope talks about all the flight attendants who really exist that he’s for-real totally nailed in all the suites he’s definitely not just fantasized about having flown in
It's never worth it if budget is a concern you still have.
for some reason I can sleep hours on a plane so it doesnt really matter where I am sleeping
I always fly business for international flights and find it 100% worth it
I literally just made the same thread cocksucker
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I didn't use ctrl+f in the catalog
It's generally a question of can you afford it or not. It's poor value for money but it's a vastly better experience than flying economy. It's also kinda shit if you're on a holiday with someone. Being in a semi isolated booth, you're not going to 'share' the experience.
Premium Economy is usually a good balance but it's variable as fuck what you get. At it's worst it's just extra legroom seats (that aren't any wider) and the ability to pre-book.
>question of can you afford it or not
I can afford it, just never tried it before.
I usually pay for premium economy which is more than enough, I wont be paying a fortune just to have more drinks or food
I guess i'll go with premium economy, it makes more sense to me now than business class.
Every time I fly economy to Japan or other similarly far enough destination, about 5-6 hours into the flight I resolve that I will definitely buy business class next time.
Then months pass, and I'm in front of the ticket buying website, and I think "man if I take economy I'll be there anyways with an extra thousand in my pocket, I survived last time whatever"
Then repeat this every single year
I have been flying for over 20 years and I learned how to manage time on airplanes and I also am able to easily sleep, so 10+ hours flight are like a breeze.
So yes and no. For the price (and I make quite decent money) I am a bit stingy about it because after all I sleep for about 4-5 hours.
Definitely when I’ll get older, just like my father currently.
Something I'll add, the difference between business class and first is minor and not worth the price difference. The main distinction is in first class the stewards will give you loads of attention. I just found it annoying. Every time you finish a drink they'll run over to ask if you want another, constantly ask if you want X.
shitt.. they also know when to take cues. I ate some duck and she fed me a bottle of wine and left me alone. I slept like a baby in my PJ's and slippers.
Yes this is my experience as well. Cringy ingratiating service that detracts overall. Business class is worth the money on long flights, you get a humane service without being fussed.
agreed
Certain airlines have an amazing first class on certain flights, or access to nicer lounges/special services for first class passengers, but usually it's not worth it.
I've flown first a few times, but only by upgrading with points or a cheap cash upgrade in the lounge because I was feeling frivolous (I don't recommend this attitude, I regret not just saving the cash and investing it).
Also, unless it's one of those crazy Emirates or Singapore suites, if you do want to try first I'd probably recommend doing it on a day flight to make the most of the food, drink and service. If you're sleeping most of the flight that Business will be just fine.
If you can afford business class, by all means get business class.
The worst part of international travel for me is that I can't sleep sitting up. I've tried all kinds of things like neck pillows and melatonin and pre-flight sleep deprivation, but nothing ever works for me. At least in business class you can sort-of lie down.
Unfortunately, business class is a bit too steep for me. Instead, I get "premium economy" or the equivalent, which is about what regular economy used to be about 40 years ago. It doesn't let me sleep, but it gives me an extra 4" of leg room that justs manages to keep my legs from cramping up after 12 hours of flying.
have you tried getting drunk?
unironically the solution tbh, if your flight has a meal just get two drinks with it. enough to make you sleepy without affecting anything else. they won't have the best selection but there's usually some decent gin/wine option that comes with the meal
i fly business class, but mostly because i have massive hemorrhoid problems and being able to fully recline prevents that from happening
if i didn't, i wouldn't fly business
If you can afford it then obviously it's worth it.
It's not so obvious, like the difference between business class and first class. I think first class is not worth it, even if I can afford it.
Business is significantly better on the majority of airlines. For most people it won't be worth the cash price. If you can get it on points or a mistake fare it's 100% worth it. Also sign up for a few fare monitors and buy them when they dip.
Business class is designed for people to be fresh for their meeting straight off the flight. So if you're going somewhere and you'll be able to rest when you get there and don't need to be sharp, then it's really just a luxury for those that can afford it.
If you're able to get a credit card and never get into debt, then definitely make sure you have one that earns points/miles. You're spending the money anyway, so you might as well earn something for it. I have saved thousands on flights by using miles, especially last minute trips.
Also, just ask at the desk at check-in or the lounge if any upgrades are available. They almost certainly won't be free, but sometimes it's worth it when it's a few hundred dollars. You're particularly likely to get a deal if there's a bunch of passengers the airline already knows will miss their connection.
I need to blow a good dose of benzos before flying because of anxiety and death phobia so I sleep the whole duration anyway. But if it's pocket change for you then just do it.
>business class
ANA me like
Would only use points to get business class, because paying for it outright is a scam. You cant convince me that business class is actually 3-4 times the price of economy. Double? Sure because your business seat takes up the space of two economy premium seats.
But when it starts being 3-4 times the price then you're getting scammed.
and dont get me started with first class being 10-12 times the price.
>first class
Sometimes you can fly privately with these prices.