China namba wan!

If there is no poverty or crime in China and China has a vibrant ancient culture why don't more people go on vacation there? Why do we have Emirates, and Quantas, and Korea Air, but there's no China Air for all the tens of thousands of people that should visit there if it's so good.

It almost seems like they're the perfect country, doesn't it?

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    America is number 1. It's pretty crazy these losers think that they can copy us.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then why are there so many poor people and old broke people in the US, but there are none in China? All you do is see brand new huge glass skyscrapers and evs.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Then why are there so many poor people and old broke people in the US, but there are none in China?
        I thought China was blocked from posting here?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not. Google is blocked so they needed a GOLD account for a while, but they're perfectly free to post for free with the new-old captcha.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're joking, right? You're a literal developing country...basically what people call poor countries when they are aware enough to know what third world means and they feel sorry for them. You're a nation of slaves.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >tries to make a point using serpentweeb and reddit
          10/10 troll

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      America has chinatowns everywhere. THere's no reason to go to China when you can get General Tso's chicken here.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >far away
    >extremely foreign
    >most Americans think it's just like North Korea

    It's no surprise more people don't go there, but it is actually a great place to travel for anyone who doesn't mind the extra effort

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't mind if I wasn't risking getting kidnapped and sent to North Korea.

      https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4303918&itype=CMSID

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Very odd case but I solo travelled the Chinese side of the NK border and spent all my time getting drunk with strangers without mishap so I think you'll be fine

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >, but there's no China Air
    Bait?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not in any number off the West Coast.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Demand for visiting the failed states of America has dried up

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          bait. chinks traveling internationally has plummeted like a rock since the wuhan flu. It's fantastic for Europe. I cannot remember the last time there were so few changs and bing bong tourist groups here

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its bait and yet you agree with the post?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              There is no source and the second picture is from Feb. 2022, when china was still welding people inside their apartments. china has started opening up a little since then, but chinks are not traveling internationally as much since them. maybe chang is having some economic problems at home? yes, it's bait.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        China Air Lines (a Taiwanese airline with a terrible safety record), Air China, China Southern, China Eastern, Cathay Pacific all have direct flights to China from several west coast cities.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The visa is a massive b***h to get and the average normal person would rather just skip the hassle and go to Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not JUST the visa, which is a pain to get. You've also got to deal with their intranet/internet, payment systems, AQI/pollution, and scammers. Don't get me started on the no-foreigner accommodations and destinations. AND it's getting more expensive, while Japan is getting cheaper (and comfier by nearly every metric).
      china hasn't been worth it for some time unless you are doing business, want to learn chinese, or have 'an adventure' rather than a nice vacation.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh yeah all of that is true as well. A western tourist in China:
        >needs a VPN to access most of the internet stuff they use on a daily basis
        >needs to download/set up convoluted phone payment systems
        >has to eat food and breathe air that is far more polluted than that in the west (even in the USA)
        >deal with the people trying to scam and exploit you on every street corner
        >deal with cancerous PSB registration
        >present your passport constantly (buying train tickets)

        whereas in Japan (I've never been but my mum and sister went recently), the biggest difficulty they had was buying a wifi brick to use to access the internet there, and booking tickets for Studio Ghibli World

        China is bae.
        The shills are getting more desperate to cover up the coming Chinese era.

        ?si=kRpub5fOVJSSJHZ6
        You can lie about China all you want but all people have to do is look up videos of China to see the truth.

        a few flashy LED-covered skyscrapers does not make China the upcoming strongest country in the world lmfao
        can't believe people are still being duped by Dubai-tier WAOW BIG BUILDING

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've heard people complain about wifi in Japan. what's the problem? last time I flew into Tokyo, I just bought a sim card. whole process took about 5-10 minutes

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Just ignore the skyscrapers
          >Just ignore the clean streets
          >Just ignore the fact it's so safe Grandmas can hang out in parks at 2AM
          >Just ignore the fact that everywhere is couples, families, parents with children etc. Where are the fats, the mentally ill, the schizoids?
          And Dubai probably has a higher standard of living than almost all of Europe in 2023 but ok. I'm pretty sure they just run hit ads on the gulf countries to redirect the pajeets into Canada where they can live 5 to a boomer's basement.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And Dubai probably has a higher standard of living than almost all of Europe in 2023 but ok.
            Based moron

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Am I wrong? Most South Europeans are living with their parents unemployed in their 30s, and North Europeans mostly live in small apartments, many can't afford cars.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dubai is a very unequal place. The rich people (this includes a lot of westerners working in finance or high paying professions there) live in fabulous opulence made possible by a million pajeets living a hand to mouth existence out of sight. China is actually very similar, incredible wealth in the cities but the average income is actually like 10 USD/day.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's so safe Grandmas can hang out in parks at 2AM

            ?feature=shared

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >just ignore the fact that they can arrest you and imprison you at any time as retribution against the West
            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-exit-bans-detentions-travelers-businesses-xi-jinping-covid-rcna95264

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            He’s right though.
            And China’s economy for retail is absolutely shit lately. There’s a retail apocalypse going on right now. Chinese barely travel overseas. I would know, I go to China very often for that reason.
            Also, I have friends in real estate in North America, mainlanders are suddenly selling their houses to go back to China, without even negociating.
            China’s golden age was under Hu Jintao. Not Shit Jinping.
            The cities look impressive from far but everything is dead. Businesses are dead. There’s barely anybody interacting with anything. Many streets feel like a ghost town despite the pretty lights and all.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Cope.
              You shills are so funny.
              NO YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE GLEAMING SKYSCRAPERS
              CHINA IS COLLAPSING
              Source: Dude, trust me.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, go ahead, put on a bunch of LEDs on skyscrapers, whoah I am so impressed of empty dead buildings with pretty lights.

                Funnily enough, I am currently in Dubai. While the buildings are equally tacky, it feels much less dead over here. Businesses seem to operate well, unlike in China. Still not my cup of tea, though.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cope.
            You shills are so funny.
            NO YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE GLEAMING SKYSCRAPERS
            CHINA IS COLLAPSING
            Source: Dude, trust me.

            >Muh Scryscapers
            Yeah but what's in them? North Korea has skyscrapers too, which are empty. We also hear about the huge housing ones collapsing because they're made of newspaper not concrete.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              get a load of this dump. not a single skyscraper in sight. imagine all the seething poorgays living in norway lmao

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody trusts Chinese morality. These people are literal Commie thieves.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >80% of chinese earn less than $150 a month
    >50% of chinese have no access to clean water or electricity

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    China is bae.
    The shills are getting more desperate to cover up the coming Chinese era.

    ?si=kRpub5fOVJSSJHZ6
    You can lie about China all you want but all people have to do is look up videos of China to see the truth.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not even the chinese govenrment says there is no poverty there.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    China is a top 10 destination in the world

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been in China since 2019 just before the pandemic. Most foreigners are SEA, East Asian, Central Asian. There's a lot from MENA (yes that includes Turkey). Not much from South America. If they're white they're probably German or Russian. The handful of Americans I know are annoying af. Like the smelly kid at school who doesn't take a shower screaming about how everyone else smells like shit yet he has a turd in his hand. Then there's Canadians, British, and western Europeans in a small group but they really keep to themselves and stay distant from locals. China is great but I think western white Americans and Europeans would rather go to SK or Japan since it's more developed and have English assistance everywhere. Their hands can be held all the way to bathroom whereas they might get lost and fall in a squat toilet in China.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you make a thread answering questions sometime?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      China simply doesn't offer anything to the average westerner compared to anywhere else in Asia but lets just deflect with a snarky comment about squat toilets. Both South Korea and Japan have a few magnitudes higher cultural impact in the west than commushit China ever had, and SEA provides literally everything else an averager would want with less inconvenience and hassle. Most are only ever going to go out that way a couple of times in their life so why bother when there is a load of extra inconvenience and cost just to get in. Also the average European experience with a mainlander is the tourists everywhere here which isn't give anyone a good impression

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, yeah Japan and sk placate weebs and GIs by offering English menus with higher prices. SEA is cheap and safe. China doesn't revolve it's culture around children's cartoons or girl bands so it's irrelevant to common Americans. There's tons of resources online on how to travel Japan and sk and sea, but China is a bureaucratic mess even if you know Chinese. The visa is annoying, most ppl don't know you need alipay to link to your visa to pay for anything, you need a good vpn, you need to find hotels that accept foreigners which isn't that hard but eliminates any bnb experiences unless you decide to figure out registering with the police who don't speak English. It's hardly worth the effort unless you're actually interested in the country.

        Can you make a thread answering questions sometime?

        Just ask here, it's a slow board.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          China is a honeypot and no western person or business will ever leave with anything more than memories and they all leave eventually

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          谢谢,朋友
          >What is the youth unemployment situation like in China?
          >How do Chinese view the Israel-Palestine conflict?
          >What is the Chinese perception of foreigners coming to their country to learn their language?
          >Is ice hockey growing there?
          >Do Chinese zoomers even want kids?
          >What are Chinese zoomers like?
          Thanks again, it's hard to find this information and I can't trust the media

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Pretty bad, around 30-35%. Most of them are graduates and there are too many graduates.

            >In my experience, either neutral or happy about it. Nothing bad.

            >growing maybe but still a very very very small niche.

            >I don’t interact with zoomies but most people of my age only want 1 kid.

            >Addicted to their phones 24/7 when they’re not at school. In fact, in many cities, now it’s mandatory to send high schoolers to boarding schools far from the city just to completely ban their phones. I was about to say worse than in the West, but actually, it’s only worse than in the West if you compare with Millenials and elder people.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What is the youth unemployment situation like in China?
            Seems high but not 'visible' anyway. 6thtone has good articles about it. Good jobs are competitive, most are trying for stable jobs (ie govt ones) instead of high paying or foreign jobs. Low skill probably hit the hardest but white collar has become more competitive than previous decades.

            >How do Chinese view the Israel-Palestine conflict?
            Most don't care. It has zero impact other than online debate. That's all.

            >What is the Chinese perception of foreigners coming to their country to learn their language?
            They're happy about it and friendly.

            >Is ice hockey growing there?
            Yeah definitely. Not as big as basketball or football of course, but definitely growing since the winter Olympics.

            >Do Chinese zoomers even want kids?
            I don't think so. Probably similar sentiment to the US, to expensive, world too fricked, require too much to give kids a decent life, etc.

            >What are Chinese zoomers like?
            More similar to Americans than previous generations but similar to global zoomers. They're willing to speak up, debate and defend themselves, worry less about pleasing ppl, a lot more confident then previous generations, they're enjoyable to be around. Idk about 10yo or younger though... They're kind of scary iPad kids brainwashed by marvel and kpop, just screaming and being obnoxious all the time. No idea if that's just that age though.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, yeah Japan and sk placate weebs and GIs by offering English menus with higher prices. SEA is cheap and safe. China doesn't revolve it's culture around children's cartoons or girl bands so it's irrelevant to common Americans. There's tons of resources online on how to travel Japan and sk and sea, but China is a bureaucratic mess even if you know Chinese. The visa is annoying, most ppl don't know you need alipay to link to your visa to pay for anything, you need a good vpn, you need to find hotels that accept foreigners which isn't that hard but eliminates any bnb experiences unless you decide to figure out registering with the police who don't speak English. It's hardly worth the effort unless you're actually interested in the country.

              [...]
              Just ask here, it's a slow board.

              I've been in China since 2019 just before the pandemic. Most foreigners are SEA, East Asian, Central Asian. There's a lot from MENA (yes that includes Turkey). Not much from South America. If they're white they're probably German or Russian. The handful of Americans I know are annoying af. Like the smelly kid at school who doesn't take a shower screaming about how everyone else smells like shit yet he has a turd in his hand. Then there's Canadians, British, and western Europeans in a small group but they really keep to themselves and stay distant from locals. China is great but I think western white Americans and Europeans would rather go to SK or Japan since it's more developed and have English assistance everywhere. Their hands can be held all the way to bathroom whereas they might get lost and fall in a squat toilet in China.

              Another expat anon here, I can attest this anon's answers have been on point. Didn't even know about ice hockey getting more popular myself, though I'm not much of a sports person, admittedly.

              The only thing I might sort of disagree with is English support, while you didn't state it directly I feel you sort of implied Korea and Japan have better support for non-native speakers/tourists than China in terms of English signs and speakers- I've found the opposite is true, at least compared to Japan, I haven't been to Korea so can't compare that. But having been to Beijing, Shanghai, and Tokyo, all before I spoke fluent 普通话. I have to say Shanghai by far has the most accommodating environment for English speakers. The subway, customer service, and overall number of English speakers was waayyy superior in SH compared to Tokyo. Beijing isn't as good as SH in this regard, but still better than Tokyo imo.

              As for my own thoughts on the thread and OP, again, I mostly agree with above expat anon but I'd like to add the anon that pointed out the visa issue made a very important point. If you're from a 1st world country Korea and Japan are way easier to visit, you just need a passport. China's required tourist visa adds a lot of unnecessary complication to a trip. VPN requirement also adds a bit of inconvenience, but then again if you don't already have one in this day and age you're ultra normie or just moronic.

              Also Idk why that other anon is sperging out about wechat wallet, everyone here will still happily accept cash, wechat wallet is really only a necessity if you live here, but not for travel. Cash is perfectly doable. Chinese ATMs have very low/non-existent fees too so any fee you have to pay to pull some money out of your own countries bank will come more from your own bank than theirs.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also I wanna note for the people who actually would be willing to take the plunge and try travelling here, hotels are not nearly as bad as some anons are making out- the only ones who don't allow foreigners are typically shit holes or mid tier ones that you wouldn't wanna stay in anyway. 5 star hotels are so cheap here I don't know why anyone would choose a shitter one anyway.

                That being said it's definitely possible to stay a '3-star' for mega cheap (like 30 usd a night) and those won't ever refuse you either and typically still have english speaking staff. Even the smaller towns have them too. I used to stay in one near my ex-gf's workplace in a tiny town for 200 yuan a night. The accommodations are great value for the price in those.

                Anyway overall unless you really wanna see something here I wouldn't recommend it just because of the visa headache and current price of flights. Also make sure to do your research, the big cities have a lot of scammers unfortunately.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                What scammers? We talking yakuza bar type scams or eiffel tower rapefugee scams?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                A little of both, child "beggars," the typical touts and taxi drivers who "know the perfect place for you to buy new suit." And in China a common scam is being approached by a cute girl who is a "college student" or something similar and wants to practice her english, is flirty and nice, who suggest you take her to some restaurant. When you get the bill, its very high for what you received. Or being taken to an "art gallery" where you're sweet talked into buying something overpriced. The business owner and the girl are working together and playing off the idea that you're too embarrassed to protest about the prices.
                This was before covid though. Now, with fewer westerners, I'm not sure how popular these scams are.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've heard there's an expat exodus. It'll take a while before foreigners return there for work/studies

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                What scammers? We talking yakuza bar type scams or eiffel tower rapefugee scams?

                As always this anon's answers are accurate. I haven't been to Beijing since pre-covid but when I was there circa 2018~ it was a lot worse than Shanghai scam-wise, I got approached like half a dozen times at the big tourist spots, typically by English-speaking girls, but I'd just reply in Mandarin that I wasn't interested and they'd frick off real fast. As with that anon not sure how much better or worse it is post-covid with foreign tourism down so much.

                In SH I only remember like one person approaching me to sell fake shit and that's it, so it seems a lot better on that front. SH in general as I mentioned almost just feels like a western city, it's a lot more modern, clean, and westernized. It's nice but you won't get the "true" China experience there imo.

                I don't think I've ever really heard of any actual "dangerous" scams expect from really sensational news stories, most scammers are just trying to get a quick buck, you're never really in actual "danger". The tea scam that anon mentioned is the most famous and common one, but it's super easy to avoid- if you're not chad thunderwiener and don't get approached by women regularly to begin with then you know not to trust cute girls approaching you randomly. (though to be fair in my case the first time women did genuinely approach me for dates was here, but it's only cause I'm white, you're not gonna get one night stands in China unless you're in a club or something though and even then unless you speak Mandarin it's gonna be tough regardless)

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only time someone ever attempted to scam me in china was literally directly inside the shanghai airport terminal where the scammers had set up a shitty booth directly inside the departures terminal trying to convince me i had to leave the terminal and go somewhere rlse by taxi to catch my flight

                Literally not even the unregistered taxis in the other airports ever tried to scam me

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought Beijing had the best hospitals and universities and stuff, but it's scummier than Shanghai?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Best hospitals and universities perhaps yes, but it also has the biggest tourist traps- the great wall, tiananmen, opera, etc, hence it attracts the most scammers for tourists. Don't know if I'd necessarily call it 'scummier' just for that.

                Only somewhat related but I will say it's definitely not as clean as Shanghai that's for sure. Shanghai is just the newer and more modern city.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also should be noted I'm certainly no expert- I've only been to BJ once for a week, and to SH 4-5 times for longer stays, however throughout the time I've been here I've only lived and worked in smaller cities.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Beijing is absolutely shit and is easily the worst city in China, including other t1 and t2 cities.
                Just do the historical stuff (museums, great wall, forbidden palace, tian tan/heaven temple? Etc.) and skip it. The city is soulless, dead, boring. Malls and streets are devoid of life, and people obly gather in Sanlitun Village just to walk around, and not even doing anything special. Everything is far from public transport unless you’re lucky enough to go somewhere right next to it, you take the car and there’s traffic jam during the whole day (except on Sunday), they drive like shit, there are many times that sidewalks randomly disappear so you have to walk in the middle of the road full of absolutely shit drivers and mopeds.
                Weather is shit, your ass is either burning or freezing, there are only 2-3 good months.
                Pollution is shit in winter but not as bad as before, at least. There are more and more blue sky days in winter, that’s some good news at least.

                I have been there yearly since the 90s and the city has gotten worse day by day since around 2013-2015.

                Shanghai mogs the shit out of Beijing for sure, at least for living standards. There’s a reason why I never stay more than a month in Beijing (I have work).

                Random picture selected on a whim.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >not a word on interactions with locals
                kek, you don't experience China, you just view it up close. Sad, really.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve been interacting with them since the 90s but there is nothing noteworthy about them in Beijing lately. They are just way more pro-China or nationalistic than before. I am from Europe, and sometimes didi drivers ask me if there is history in my country, and I say, yes, in every corner of my country there is a lot history. They are often surprised. People are not mean, sometimes ignorant, but I don’t give a shit. Nothing to do with Beijing as a city though.

                I’ve had my run in Northern China, there is not much value left. Fun has been long gone. Maybe the South is better. I haven’t been to the South since forever except for Shanghai.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm going to be studying at 北大 for all of the 2024 academic year
                How fricked am I

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                自杀吧

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What is the youth unemployment situation like in China?
                Seems high but not 'visible' anyway. 6thtone has good articles about it. Good jobs are competitive, most are trying for stable jobs (ie govt ones) instead of high paying or foreign jobs. Low skill probably hit the hardest but white collar has become more competitive than previous decades.

                >How do Chinese view the Israel-Palestine conflict?
                Most don't care. It has zero impact other than online debate. That's all.

                >What is the Chinese perception of foreigners coming to their country to learn their language?
                They're happy about it and friendly.

                >Is ice hockey growing there?
                Yeah definitely. Not as big as basketball or football of course, but definitely growing since the winter Olympics.

                >Do Chinese zoomers even want kids?
                I don't think so. Probably similar sentiment to the US, to expensive, world too fricked, require too much to give kids a decent life, etc.

                >What are Chinese zoomers like?
                More similar to Americans than previous generations but similar to global zoomers. They're willing to speak up, debate and defend themselves, worry less about pleasing ppl, a lot more confident then previous generations, they're enjoyable to be around. Idk about 10yo or younger though... They're kind of scary iPad kids brainwashed by marvel and kpop, just screaming and being obnoxious all the time. No idea if that's just that age though.

                >Pretty bad, around 30-35%. Most of them are graduates and there are too many graduates.

                >In my experience, either neutral or happy about it. Nothing bad.

                >growing maybe but still a very very very small niche.

                >I don’t interact with zoomies but most people of my age only want 1 kid.

                >Addicted to their phones 24/7 when they’re not at school. In fact, in many cities, now it’s mandatory to send high schoolers to boarding schools far from the city just to completely ban their phones. I was about to say worse than in the West, but actually, it’s only worse than in the West if you compare with Millenials and elder people.

                thanks for the answers. I guess everyone is going through the same shit these days

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks. True, I went to sk last year and thought there was more 'official' support for English there, but went to Japan several years ago and forgot it's rather difficult since you hardly can get people to even play pictionary with you to find out where to go (I.e. toilet). But yeah Shanghai is really accommodating, Beijing not as much. I'd also add you can download alipay on Google store and link your visa or MasterCard now. Everywhere that accepts wechat usually also accepts alipay. So you can go to restaurants, rent ebikes, get a taxi, etc.

                Also I wanna note for the people who actually would be willing to take the plunge and try travelling here, hotels are not nearly as bad as some anons are making out- the only ones who don't allow foreigners are typically shit holes or mid tier ones that you wouldn't wanna stay in anyway. 5 star hotels are so cheap here I don't know why anyone would choose a shitter one anyway.

                That being said it's definitely possible to stay a '3-star' for mega cheap (like 30 usd a night) and those won't ever refuse you either and typically still have english speaking staff. Even the smaller towns have them too. I used to stay in one near my ex-gf's workplace in a tiny town for 200 yuan a night. The accommodations are great value for the price in those.

                Anyway overall unless you really wanna see something here I wouldn't recommend it just because of the visa headache and current price of flights. Also make sure to do your research, the big cities have a lot of scammers unfortunately.

                You can use trip.com and sort hotels for anything rated above 4.5 but usually I've found the only decent ones are mostly 4.8+ though I'm quite picky. Orange hotel are usually good franchised mid price hotels.

                Also I've never had issues with scammers. "Bu yao xie xie" to anyone that talks to you in public on the street. This Asia, no one would come up to you randomly to chat. Much worse situation in London, LA, or NYC compared to t1 Chinese cities in this regard. I've never taken a taxi off the street, always used an app so I have no idea how ppl get scanner that way either. Post covid I've only seen some street performers (i.e. Musicians sitting near the sidewalk) or beggars but they're not really scammers, just poor and desperate and easily ignore-able. There's street merchants but I wouldn't call those a scam since they're not up in your face either. Dunno about that tea girl scam, never seen it.

                Also anon just out of curiosity you're using a pass right? It's the only way I've found to post here since SighSee blocks Chinese IP addresses and most vpns. Curious if you know a way around it other than buying a pass.

                You can set up your own VPN or search for diy shadowsocks servers, though it's more of a pain in the ass. Some can by pass the issue with captcha by using their foreign sim though doesn't seem to work for everyone and you'd probably pay for roaming.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Also anon just out of curiosity you're using a pass right? It's the only way I've found to post here since SighSee blocks Chinese IP addresses and most vpns. Curious if you know a way around it other than buying a pass.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        China has infinitely more to offer than anywhere else in Asia bar Japan

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          no it doesnt

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            It does, regardless of how much you like/dislike the people/government

            >variety of cuisines
            >variety of local cultures
            >variety of landscapes/environments
            You could chalk it all up to pure size advantage if you must be dismissive, but it simply has much much more to see and do than most Asian nations and with the infrastructure to make it almost all easily accessible

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I ain't giving you shills replies, sorry about it. No shekels for you.
    Whites can only cry about their dying countries on the way out.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >food is filled with carcinogenic gutter oil
    https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10117420/
    >painting spoiled meat red to make it look fresh

    >buildings are built as cheaply as possible with no regard for safety
    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/victims-in-deadly-collapse-of-china-middle-school-gym-roof-largely-members-of-girls-volleyball-team/4534654/
    >anti good samaritan laws
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Shoulan_v._Peng_Yu
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue
    >replacing native minorities with ~~*han chinese*~~
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide#Classification_of_abuses
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization_of_Tibet#Population_growth
    >absolutely destroying local ocean ecosystems to make more profit in the short term
    https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/china-illegal-fishing-fleet/

    I'd rather visit North Korea.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      And someone could easily cherry pick stuff about the usa.
      >15 nigs jump and kill a white
      >troony shoots up school
      >New anti defamation of israel law passed

      Keep the thread about traveling instead of your MSM nu/misc/ ramblings. Anti China posts are everywhere now that Xi visited. Gee, I wonder why?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nu/pol/
        >anti-china
        who's going to tell him?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          /misc/ is reddit.
          Unironically Reddit.
          SighSee's favourite country is fricking CANADA.
          SighSee is a site for rabid leftists.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        None of that is cherry picking. They're all fundamental problems with the way the country is run, and they all have serious long term consequences for the citizens, tourists and even neighboring countries.
        >Keep the thread about traveling
        This is about traveling, because these problems keep me from visiting. China has beautiful geography, and rich history, but these things keep me from visiting. I don't care about politics one bit.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          So why are you in a thread for a country you have no plans on traveling to? What contributions do you plan on making besides b***hing into the void?

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every China thread is filled with trumpcucks and shills hellbent on stopping people from visiting China.
    They are afraid of people visiting a society that serves their own interests instead of suicidal western nations that serve bankers

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's amazing how quickly someone posts insults towards the west any time someone says something bad about china instead of just providing counter arguements.
      >serves their own interests
      https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/flood-zhuozhou-08042023105657.html
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/31/china-floods-beijing-rain/
      You mean the interests of the government officials.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        All you have are globalist banker outlets spreading lies and hate.
        Also floods? As if nature doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
        If someone wants to visit China, why are you shills so hellbent on stopping it? Got something to hide?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes it's funny seeing how a someone can't write a pro chinese comment without also turning into a dig at the west and then if you question it you're just called names
        the definition of rent free

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You US would NEVER do that...
        >https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna10370145
        quick run discord coordinated defense!

        Also anon just out of curiosity you're using a pass right? It's the only way I've found to post here since SighSee blocks Chinese IP addresses and most vpns. Curious if you know a way around it other than buying a pass.

        Chinese IPs aren't blocked by SighSee, the Google Capt cha is.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it's not just BS talk that would be nice, maybe I could finally get more family aside from my damn mother to visit me here.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can see it being real and rolling out quickly. Biden doesn't have much time left in office. There are some several extremely simple things they could do that would boost tourism for everyone involved.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with travelling in China is the Chinese tourists, I found the whole experience incredibly alienating.

    Stuck in a cage with hundreds of thousands of yelling spitting Chinese retirees, often a phisical cage because they'res no other way to contain them.

    In three months I only met two Chinese people, nobody else wanted to talk to me, nobody was friendly, nobody spoke English. and the who Chinese I met were some kind of government plant sent from the central goverment in Beijing, hanban people.

    There's so much to see and understand, but culturally its the hardest place I've ever travelled.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You went on a three month vacation to China, toured with a group entirely of old people, in a cage I guess you mean a bus?, and the only Chinese people you met in China were spies?

      Tell me you're in high school shitposting without telling me you're in high school shitposting lmaoooo

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      None of this actually happened.

      I spent this entire summer in China and I always had people coming up to me and speaking, saying hello, or wanting to be friends.
      It helps to know even a little bit of Chinese to respond back to them and that goes a long way.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    My gf was an exchange student in Shanghai and Beijing for a couple of years while studying Mandarin. She's fluent and has experience navigating there alone, but would I actually want to go there along with her one day?

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