What are the best destinations to go into with minimal knowledge or expectations?
I’m trying to rekindle the wondrous, awestruck innocence of my youth.
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What are the best destinations to go into with minimal knowledge or expectations?
I’m trying to rekindle the wondrous, awestruck innocence of my youth.
Indonesia
Why?
What do you know about it? It's a very big country with very diverse peoples spread over a lot of area. I suspect you don't know much and it could offer a lot of opportunities to feel awestruck, especially with its nature.
That’s true, very good insight anon. Although isn’t there some dangers with the heavy muslim populace?
Didn't you want to explore and dIsCoVeR? Just fucking go. Maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised, or maybe we'll all get a new LiveLeak video to enjoy. Either way, it's a win-win.
That’s reasonable. I guess I should’ve made it clearer in my post that my criteria of a good place to discover wouldn’t be overly dangerous, but from what you’ve told me Indonesia does fit that criteria so it all works out. Thanks for your input.
Do you think Aceh would be worth a visit? I’m not a retarded coomer
I personally haven't been, I hear it has an island with great surf if that's your thing. Lake Toba is in north Sumatra too.
Just follow the law and it's not a problem. Aceh is the only place with sharia law, papua is the only place that should be avoided but that has nothing to do with Islam.
>Take plane to indonesia.
>In the US airport they plant drugs in your cage.
>You are a blind mule
>They caught you in indonesia
>20 years in a hell prision
Over 15 million people go to Indonesia every year, this immensely unlikely.
If you knew....
There are toons of people living of tourism that doesn't want to spread talking about this
you're forcing that meme really hard.
Yosemite National Park is pretty easy. You literally show up, check in, and park. We always stay in Curry Village for 5 nights. I bring a cooler with cold beer and ice, a blanket and pillow, a fan for the cabin and my inflatable kayak. We spend the week swimming in the creeks, drinking, hiking the trails, meeting new people in the campground, eating pizza and watching the animals. There are free shuttles in the park, 2 grocery stores and a couple good restaurants. But you can hike a mile into most trails and you'll get complete solitude.
>you're forcing that meme really hard.
It's gonna be the new "OP here, I'm actually trans, not sure if it matters" isn't it?
Well he is tecnically not wrong. There have been some cases.
>There have been some cases.
Wrong.
You're supposed to say
>Many such cases!
Where are you from and where have you already been?
Anywhere with old-world cultural integrity. Morocco, the Stans, rural Turkey are all good options.
Impossible to say without knowing what you know. Just go to somewhere you don’t know much about. That could be Chile, Japan, Tajikistan, China, etc.
It all depends on (you)
My criteria is moreso someplace unique in comparison to the western world, but safe enough and with suitable infrastructure that a traveler who has done minimal research beforehand can figure out and navigate with some effort
Any Arabic country then. Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Oman are all very safe and non-Westernized.
That seems like a generally good shout, however will going to any of those countries jeopardize getting Visas to other countries, like Israel for example?
>Israel
That's generally a one-way issue. If you have solid evidence of visiting Israel, you are effectively banned from muslim countries that boycott Israel. However, you would not be banned from visiting Israel if you have evidence of travel to their political enemies.
That’s good to know, thanks.
200 usd? Don’t know if I’d be interested in something guided, that doesn’t really lend itself to discovering shit, seems to be more of a see what they want you to see type deal. Unless you’ve experienced otherwise?
The imperfect list of "Don't go to X if you want to go to Y":
>Don't go to Israel if you want to visit most Muslim countries
>Don't go to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, or Yemen if you want to visit the US
>Don't go to Armenia or Nagorno-Karabakh if you want to visit Azerbaijan
>Don't go to Pakistan if you want to visit India
In this context, "Don't go to this place" actually means "Don't have easily verifiable evidence of having been in this place." Things such as passport stamps, visas, photos of yourself in those countries, etc.
I know Bahrain has recently cozyed up to Israel the last few years so there shouldnt be an issue. come in the fall and winter though.
Bhutan fits this well, you are required to have a guide so you can rely on them for safety and, well, guidance.
The kicker is that you have to pay something like 200 bucks a day for the privilege.
>you have to pay something like 200 bucks a day for the privilege.
This changed recently.
Before 2022, the $200 per night that you paid actually went towards the trip. Whatever you needed for the trip (accommodation, guides, rides, etc.), that fee paid for at least some of it. Maybe not all of it, but at least some of it.
Post-2022, you still have to pay $200 per night, but the biggest difference is that the government pockets all of it. They call it a "Sustainable Development Fee" now. It no longer pays for the things you need for your trip.
The one upside is that you no longer need a guide.
The obvious downside is that it no longer offsets your travel costs, so shelling out for hotels and car rides and such ON TOP OF $200 per night (as opposed to the pre-2022 blended expense) is going to feel devastating.
As of June 2023, they've started trying out an incentive program. For every 4, 7, or 12 nights you pay for, the government will double it.
So if you pay for a 4-night stay, the government will allow you to stay for up to 8 nights.
If you pay for 7 nights, you can stay up to 14 nights.
If you pay for 12 nights, you can stay up to 30 nights (so it's actually more than double).
The 4+4 and 7+7 offers end up working out to $100 per night if you actually use it to its full potential, and the 12+18 offer works out to $80 per night.
This incentive program is a limited offer, though. I think it's supposed to end in December 2024.
Correction:
Before 2022, you had to pay up to $250 per night. I believe this rate was lowered for groups of 4 or more. The government only took $65 out of that fee, and the remaining $185 went towards your travel costs.
Now it's $200 per night, with the government getting all of it.