Does anyone else feel like classic expat culture is dying?

I'm thinking of East Asia, but maybe it applies elsewhere, I don't know. Millennials and zoomers are less adventurous, both Western and native societies are more conformist and stifling than ever.

The bohemian, carefree lifestyle associated with being an expat in Asia, especially as an English teacher, is both less possible and more stigmatized than it used to be. Collapsing birthrates mean that students are literally no longer being born at least not in significant numbers.

Maybe the Internet's also a lot to blame. Shooting the shit in bars used to be a big part of the experience, now everything's online, so dating or even just socializing aren't what they used to be. A lot of the big expat haunts are just a shell of what they used to be, been to Itaewon, Roppongi, or Lan Kwai Fong lately?

Am I just getting old and nostalgic, or has something really been lost here?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely. When I hear all the wild shit my boomer dad did in the 70s in Afghanistan, Australia and Latin America, even the 90s and early 00s were tamed as fuck.
    And yeah internet did play a role, and so is democratization of travels. Plane tickets are cheaper than ever (except for this summer), everything is so east to book and people just follow online reviews.
    Also tourism focus has shifted; white people are no longer the priority of SEA tourism industry as they prefer chinks; more compliant, consooooom more and more docile.
    Your best bet nowadays is to go to some African shithole, I suppose. I can see why there are few boomers staying there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Also tourism focus has shifted; white people are no longer the priority of SEA tourism industry as they prefer chinks; more compliant, consooooom more and more docile.

      China is literally collapsing as we speak and its citizens are banned from going overseas and especially bringing any large amount of money with them overseas. Things will revert back to the norm of courting white tourists again soon enough.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don’t know that yet, nothing is set in stone yet. East Asia still hasn’t entirely opened yet. There are small signs of China very slowly reopening, baby steps, since mid-July. Only one way for now but if they keep it at this pace, they might fully reopen for both ways next year or so.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There are small signs of China very slowly reopening, baby steps, since mid-July.

          In which alternate universe is this happening? China is literally falling apart more and more with each passing week. As far as the Zero COVID policy goes, the government has already said its here to stay and has even erected permanent mass testing centers. You think the CCP is going to give up this much power and control voluntarily? Especially as their economy, real estate and banking sectors are collapsing and unrest continues to unfold? Get real.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They started to re-issue passports to those who need to go overseas from last week, and applications for working and family reunion visas are now as easy to get as before the kung flu. They have cut down quarantine from 14 days to 7 days, and “only” require a PCR test 24h before flight from any testing centre. Before July 2022, you had to have 2 PCR tests, 1 blood test from selected testing centers (so basically only 2 max per country), and family reunion visas were impossible to get; working visas were possible but they were a huge pain in the ass. They also added more international flights from last week, and especially some direct flights to Beijing (they used to cut direct flights to major cities, for quarantine purposes). So yeah, a sudden and slow shift. Only tourism is barred.
            I still wouldn’t go there because it’s a pain in the ass to get frequently tested but they are easing down a few things. Things won’t totally calm down before 2023 if it ever calms down, and there won’t be bigger changes before november at the very least, I think.

            But by Chinese standards, this is huge news.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You might be able to go to Hong Kong and Macao by next year without a quarantine. That’s as much opening as China is going to realistically have.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why not go to Afghanistan now? It can't possibly be less of an adventure today than it was in the seventies.
      I hate travelers too, but maybe you're the problem

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What wild shit did he do in Afghanistan and was he even an expat there? When I read about the hippie trail it seems like a bunch of stoners who just all went to the same places and stayed in the same hotels. Sure it must have been cool but I think you can do just as wild shit today.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >especially as an English teacher
    You can still move to Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur and work in financials services/banking and live your carefree cushy expat life in SEA. I had agreed with you up until you revealed yourself as a useless TEFL sexpest. Go back home, no one wants you there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I literally didn't mention sex or women even once you boring gay Chang, kys

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dumb ass. You made this post as if you're reminiscing a life of wheeling and dealing for a Hong Kong trading house in the 80s but in reality you're a barely qualified foreign english teacher bouncing around aimlessly. The type to have asked 'where do we go next' when Covid lockdowns hit Asia, instead of just going home. There was never a romantic lifestyle associated with teaching english in some shit hole. You were always vermin that overstay your welcome and then turn bitter towards your host country that you stay in. Go home and blow your brains out so we dont have to deal with your corpse.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you're reminiscing a life of wheeling and dealing for a Hong Kong trading house in the 80s

          Trading house? Not at all, I'd kill myself if I had to do that kind of work.

          >in reality you're a barely qualified foreign english teacher bouncing around aimlessly

          Yes.png, I made that abundantly clear in my OP. What are we arguing about?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There was never a romantic lifestyle associated with teaching english in some shit hole

          Are you sure, seems like it was a pretty sweet gig in the 1980s and 90s, even if it's not so much anymore.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He never said anything about wheeling and dealing, and in fact specifically mentioned being an English teacher. Are you sure you aren't reading something into his post that's not there?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You made this post as if you're reminiscing a life of wheeling and dealing for a Hong Kong trading house in the 80s

          >bohemian
          >carefree

          ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've lived in Thailand, Malaysia and Vietnam.
      Outside of the tourist areas you can start chatting to any white person in a bar regardless of age and make local friends straight away.
      Being a white minority in Asia is life on easy mode.
      OP is simply an utter retard who hopefully joins the Pattaya Flying Club

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Being a white minority in Asia is life on easy mode.

        why make friends with white people? they're smug, neurotic, and fake.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          white privilege is when a no-skilled anglo or bong visit an asian country and get a english job that pays 5x-10x higher than a local worker. the anglo then does degenerate shit like doing drugs, having sex with the students, spreading HIV WHILE looking down on the local populace. south korea gov used to make english teachers take HIV tests

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > actually giving a shit about race on sighsee
          pol moment
          White, black, fuckin purple, I couldn't care less. If you were actually someone who spent time in these places you would understand that expat westerners stand out like a steaming turd in fresh snow and they are always good for some bants.
          Actual born and bred locals are hit and miss. There's some decent ones but really most with half a clue about life in these places moves to the west themselves.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If you were actually someone who spent time in these places you would understand that expat westerners stand out like a steaming turd in fresh snow and they are always good for some bants.

            no thanks, white expats are annoying cunts, dog shit and shady. who would want to talk to some TELF fag?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why arent boring old fat bald disgusting boomers having as good of a time now that young zoomer and millennial chads are coming and taking all the women???
    >back in my day we would all hang out with other bald old fat boomer losers in bars and only get bar hookers now not even bar hookers want us
    >back in my day
    fuck off old piece of shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >young zoomer and millennial chads are coming and taking all the women

      Are they though? The average zoomie is mostly spending his time chainwatching YT videos and occasionally getting filtered hard on Tinder

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >young zoomer and millennial chads
      you mean those crybaby wimps with broccoli haircuts and an obsession with being part of the alphabet people?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        t.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          shouldn't you be getting ready to go to the non binary furry convention

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >young zoomer and millennial chads are coming and taking all the women

        Are they though? The average zoomie is mostly spending his time chainwatching YT videos and occasionally getting filtered hard on Tinder

        idk about zoomers but I am sure they all arent like that
        but I know plenty of millennials abroad who still go to bars and live a regular fun life without problem
        although now with covid I am not sure how that is going.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Covid exemplifies the problem with zoomers and their lack of intestinal fortitude. Boomers, the at-risk group l, mostly ignore it while zoomers who are 99.99% likely to have a mild case are afraid.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            boomers didnt ignore it they all rant and rave about it and all took multiple clotshots
            someone post that vid of the smug millenial eating his snack on a plane while 2 subhuman boomers seethe and freak out with their masks and face shields

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Dude you are obviously jealous of boomers seriously get over it, sure they are better than you because they have seen a vagina but work on yourself start lifting and lose 100 pounds

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >because they have seen a vagina but work on yourself start lifting and lose 100 pounds
                stop projecting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Y'all are so jealous of boomers it's sad, like just start lifting and ask a girl out bros

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          who wouldnt be jealous of a generation that literally had the easiest lives of all generations in the history of humanity and probably for a long time to come? couple that with a lead poisened brain that keeps them blissfully dumb and ignorant to their entitlement and exploitation of the entire planets resorces and you got the best existence ever.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is that why you gave up on life when you were 14, because in your imagination someone had it easier than you?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              no, also projection and you're gay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >easiest life in history
          >literally everything handed to him
          >still fucked it all up

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            life in history
            your life is considerably easier than the life of any person in any previous generation ever

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              my dad had a much easier life than I have had. Literally existed, fell into property ownership, dick around for 20 years, oh look my net worth is 800k time to retire
              What stupid hyperbole.
              This is a cursed time to be alive.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >This is a cursed time to be alive.
                what stupid hyperbole
                there has never been a better or easier time to make a lot of money than today. 20 years to make $800k? there's a guy on youtube who makes $50 million a year basically starting from nothing because he made a video where he counted to a big number.

                It's the internet/ globalization

                you should have just let the thread die you idiot

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have a shit ton of money you dumb cunt I would trade it all to be poor in 1950.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol no you wouldn't. if you were magically transported to 1950 you would survive about two days before you started whining about there being no internet, actually having to do manual labour and/or wear a tie even in your spare time, and a million other things
                also, people in the 1950s weren't so unnecessarily hostile all the time

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              boomers had it the easiest. No need for a degree, experience, training, education. Just go get any job and get pension, 401k, retirement, and benefits for life. Way lower inflation and cost of living. So many investment opportunities like dot com bubble, housing, bitcoin when worth cents, or just any company that would obviously be worth a lot in the future like Microsoft. They could just get a summer job while in high school and work with a bunch of other high school students, now if you do that you have 10s of millions of fat old immigrants as coworkers and customers. Didnt need to waste 4 years in college either just start making money and buying 20k houses worth a mill now.
              >but u have a smurt phone so u have easy back in muh day
              fuck off boomer shithead

              What wild shit did he do in Afghanistan and was he even an expat there? When I read about the hippie trail it seems like a bunch of stoners who just all went to the same places and stayed in the same hotels. Sure it must have been cool but I think you can do just as wild shit today.

              You can still do just as many wild things today still. Unless he meant illegal stuff since there are more cameras now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                anon what the fuck are you even on about
                >boomers
                >bitcoin when worth cents
                are you mental or summat
                >or just any company that would obviously be worth a lot in the future like Microsoft.
                several of the biggest companies in the world have been floated in the 21st century
                face it anon your lack of success is your own fault, not "boomers"
                also this is a travel board. previous generations had to save up for months to afford a holiday, that they would probably have to arrange weeks or months ahead through some middleman travel agent who would also be taking their cut. now i can fly anywhere in europe for a couple of hours' pay, booked directly with the airline, tomorrow if i feel like it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cant own land because everything is 1 million dollars now unless you move to middle of no where with no jobs and still more expensive than what boomers paid
                >but muh more convenient flights and muh iphone
                fuck off retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                go tell 4chan about your life failures you whiny moron. misery loves company after all. this is sighsee so talking about travel is on topic here. travel is cheaper and easier than it has ever been before.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Haha what a loser, you are such a manbaby worm you never even tried at life its easier than ever to be rich in the usa but incels like you expect everything to be given to you because you are white. That's what white privilege means, I'm white so I deserve everything because someone told me boomers got a free house and gf at birth. You shitstains deserve every bit of suffering

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >white privilege
                what the fuck are you going on about retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >what the fuck are you going on about retard

                white privilege is when a no-skilled anglo or bong visit an asian country and get a english job that pays 5x-10x higher than a local worker. the anglo then does degenerate shit like doing drugs, having sex with the students, spreading HIV WHILE looking down on the local populace

                south korea used to make english teachers do HIV test cause white expats are dirty diseased fucks

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                white privilege is when a no-skilled anglo or bong visit an asian country and get a english job that pays 5x-10x higher than a local worker. the anglo then does degenerate shit like doing drugs, having sex with the students, spreading HIV WHILE looking down on the local populace. south korea gov used to make english teachers take HIV tests

                white privilege is when a no-skilled anglo or bong visit an asian country and get a english job that pays 5x-10x higher than a local worker. the anglo then does degenerate shit like doing drugs, having sex with the students, spreading HIV WHILE looking down on the local populace. south korea gov used to make english teachers take HIV tests

                lol I think your brain is broken Chong

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He does have a point. Refute it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Refute it.
                I was mocking samefagging 3 times in a row. I don't disagree at all that TEFLs are scum. But you exaggerate, the people that do this are losers and earn about $25k a year. That's not '10x higher than a local worker' man. I know people who live in poor LATAM/SEA countries who earn more than that doing graduate software testing and customer support jobs. The world has changed a lot in the past generation or so. If anything black people have more 'privilege' these days.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                koreans know white english teachers are degenerate freaks having sex with their students

                https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20161117000711

                https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/2102293/english-teachers-south-korea-welcome-end-hiv-test

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He does have a point. Refute it.

                [...]
                [...]
                lol I think your brain is broken Chong

                white privilege is when a no-skilled anglo or bong visit an asian country and get a english job that pays 5x-10x higher than a local worker. the anglo then does degenerate shit like doing drugs, having sex with the students, spreading HIV WHILE looking down on the local populace. south korea gov used to make english teachers take HIV tests

                1st I am sure that is the moron poster on this board
                2nd every Asian country makes people take HIV tests for work permit, maybe dipshit tourists are spreading it but for some reason only teachers get attacked

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                white privilege is when a no-skilled anglo or bong visit an asian country and get a english job that pays 5x-10x higher than a local worker. the anglo then does degenerate shit like doing drugs, having sex with the students, spreading HIV WHILE looking down on the local populace. south korea gov used to make english teachers take HIV tests

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You mentioned dating

    Fair enough, you're still an asspained aznidentitycel though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm caucasian and I have never been to Asia although my Portuguese ancestors raped and enslaved those people plenty of times so I might have some hapa distant cousins there

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have never been to Asia

        You have very strong opinions on this subject, then. It's a bit peculiar.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not the first person you replied to. If you mean the pedophilic comment, that's just common knowledge. Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and Philippines were pedo paradises until last decade.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unless they were raping Hawaiians there are no "hapas"

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you will never take holiday to Japan or SEA before ruined by mutts
    >you will never woo a french woman before they've been mogged
    >you will never explore the world where people still uphold english as a virtue
    >you will never be able to explore the world without Ken and Barbie from california shitting it up with their shit behaviors and instagram
    >you will never be able to go see the works of your ancestors building the world for better before it got bulldozed to build a mcdonalds by fatass mutts
    >you will never live the glory days of visiting countries without smartphones, computers, tablets, etc. Paying a local a few quid per day to be your translator and get you anything you want
    >you will never visit Hong Kong in it's glory days before being mogged by chinks

    Things could have been so much different if certain countries just never ruined it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kys

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You mentioned dating which implies women and sex.

    Oh no! Dating overseas! How terrible!

    KYS neckbeard virgin.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Expat
    You mean immigrant.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      expat implies relative position of power, not fleeing in desperation like immigrant does

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Expat implies you're not staying, keep your dumb Reddit definitions to yourself

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        And immigrant isn't fleeing either, you are confusing immigrants with refugees, smartass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whites = Expat, digital nomad
      East asians, Indians = Immigrants
      Arabs, blacks = Migrants/refugees

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    "classic expat culture" has not existed since between the wars
    it probably ended with the end of the great european colonial powers

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the internet/ globalization

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Millenials and zoomers are some of the most risk-averse generations to pop up in over a century. IDK why but their parents generally tried more things than they did at their age and were much more self-reliant, able to do something without feeling embarrassed for not bringing friends along

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Travel started sucking as soon as malaria started becoming preventable and treatable, it hasn't got much worse since then.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's entirely because you're talking about places that got popular. Go somewhere more low key and its a different atmosphere.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do you care? It's more pussy for us

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does anyone else feel like classic expat culture is dying?

    translation: how come poojeets and changs are taking over thailand tourism and whites aren't welcomed anymore?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Does anyone else feel like classic expat culture is dying?

    classic expat culture is being degenerate gays teaching english while having sex with students and drink every day after works. you whites can't get away with this forever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds like a pretty based lifestyle ngl. How do I get in on this?

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