DON'T Teach English Abroad; You Will Ruin Your Life

I'm a former English teacher in my 30s. I primarily taught in China and somewhat in Vietnam, and all I have to say is: DON'T DO IT!

You will ruin your career and professional life. I went back home a few years ago and I've been trying to pivot into IT, but can't because I'm considered "too old" now.

If you are from a first world Anglo country, there is no reason for you to teach English abroad; it'll only be detrimental to your career. Maybe if you're from some Eastern Euro shithole and it's all you have to make money, go ahead. But Brits, Australians/NZ, Canadians, and Americans should NOT do it. You will get caught up with the easy girls, the easy lifestyle, thinking you're making money and progressing, then you'll hit a roadblock. Then, before you know it, you're 30 years old with nothing to show. You're also essentially teaching Asian people to come to your countries and take all the high paying 6 figure jobs. JUST. DON'T. DO. IT.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    everyone must make their own income in the new economy and break free of the "job" paradigm

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Digits of chaos, you know not what you ask for Son of Man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/tdwlcqH.jpg

      I'm a former English teacher in my 30s. I primarily taught in China and somewhat in Vietnam, and all I have to say is: DON'T DO IT!

      You will ruin your career and professional life. I went back home a few years ago and I've been trying to pivot into IT, but can't because I'm considered "too old" now.

      If you are from a first world Anglo country, there is no reason for you to teach English abroad; it'll only be detrimental to your career. Maybe if you're from some Eastern Euro shithole and it's all you have to make money, go ahead. But Brits, Australians/NZ, Canadians, and Americans should NOT do it. You will get caught up with the easy girls, the easy lifestyle, thinking you're making money and progressing, then you'll hit a roadblock. Then, before you know it, you're 30 years old with nothing to show. You're also essentially teaching Asian people to come to your countries and take all the high paying 6 figure jobs. JUST. DON'T. DO. IT.

      you cunts realise that there's 100's of thousands of jobs open right?
      it's a job hunter's market right now
      cunt'sll throw $50/hr at you to just man a desk and do nothing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. boomer who watched fox or cnn that said this
        actually it isnt, a lot of companies will put out job ads to fill their obligations and hire internally
        most jobs now are min wage shit where you work with a bunch of old Hispanics

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Boomers are right about everything, you are just a lazy entitled poltard

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            cant wait ill boomers are in homes with their diversity immigration hires

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh cool that sounds great anon. In fact, I'd take half of that to man a desk and still do work. Tell me, are these "$30/hr desk jobs" in the room with us right now? Fucking retard.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao I make $150k USD to work about 12 hours a week for my company. Good luck with your independence bud

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can always tell when you gays are larping. It's funny how you never mention what you do, you just claim that you make hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's the same repeated pattern over and over and over without stop. You're an actual bot.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I've been trying to pivot into IT, but can't because I'm considered "too old" now.

    Stop looking at gaming/internet bullshit companies that cater to zoomers.

    Look at companies that do B2B software like for use in accounting, AP/AR and the like. Not Salesforce. And, the holy grail, look at defense contractors. The culture there skews towards older generations, and from what I've been told, working at Northrop or Lockheed makes you unemployable to FAANG globohomos lol.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven, straight white males are essentially barred from polite society in the west.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's unironically true in the UK. When you walk past a black man in London you have to kneel. He then rapes your girlfriend and the Police charge you with a hate crime for reporting the rape.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bro, you can switch in IT at any point in your career if you have an aptitude for it. (I mean if you can get interviews and not bomb them.) I'm going to assume your problem is getting the interviews. You won't get filtered by HR and recruiters for being too old if you are careful with your resume - remove the date you graduated from university, all your bullshit previous work experience (such as teaching, except maybe one year or so if you have nothing more recent), and keep your new training courses and IT certificates front and center. You'll look like a new graduate applying for entry level positions, which is exactly what you are. Once you get a job you can cruise out of those entry level positions quickly and be doing what you really want to do within a couple of years, maybe less.
    The general advice is you should tailor the length of your resume for the seniority of the position you're applying for. You don't list 20 years of experience on your resume for low-mid level positions, not in IT or anywhere. For almost all IT jobs you stick to listing the last 10 years. No point going any further than that, especially for tech roles, but if you are happy about some skills or stuff you did early in your career you can mention them in your cover letter.
    It sounds like you need someone to help you with your resume and cover letter. That kind of help is worth paying for. Don't feel shy about reappying to places you've already applied once your resume has a whole new look.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is some of the best sighsee advice I have ever read, trust this man as a fellow white collar dude who has read too many resumes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bro, you can switch in IT at any point in your career if you have an aptitude for
      Completely false, there is a huge age bias in tech.
      It is possible to overcome it, but it’s extra hard.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry Zhang but your post is just a LARP. I taught English for a year and it was an amazingly fun time. Before that though I got a degree in Management Information Systems. Once my year was done I jumped into an IT job in the US.

      >too old for IT
      lmao I literally just told my 45 year old sister to get an AWS Cloud Practitioner cert and she got an IT help desk job for $60,000 in the Midwest with zero previous experience.
      Either you're lying (which you are) or a complete fucking retard.

      You're not too old for IT. You too old to be paid to learn.

      Young kids fresh out of university corporations hire as junior devs. At this point in your career you actually are terrible at coding and these companies are taking a gamble, an investment, that once you are taught to actually code you will start making the company actual money, and making your salary worth it.

      If you want to get into tech as an older adult then you need to teach yourself how to code and be better than any university student at coding. For example, as soon as you are hired you should immediately start making the company money with your skills.

      That's it. Be worth your salary. University students are NOT for the first 3 to 6 months.

      Also do web development. It's super high in demand and is really the fundamental layer of modern programming. And they say "learn Javascript and you'll never go hungry"

      Can you people stop grouping SWE with IT help desk stuff. You say IT and then you talk about programming? I can't tell who is actually talking about literal help desk IT (which is a different career and probably has little to no ageism compared to dev work)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Appreciate the advise. Feeling absolutely fucked right now as an unemployed coder at the age of 32. Have pretty much given up.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >there are wagies in this thread RIGHT NOW worrying about what their CV looks like to some post-wall feminist harpy in HR

    Never mind me lads, just gonna use my disablity to finance my sexpatting and fuck top tier qts for free, I spend half the year doing this, fucking and impregnating wives, fiances and gfs of beta bucks. It's easy when you have a good body thanks to all the free time a NEET gets to work out, eat well and get lots of good sleep.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Must be nice to scam the DoD for welfare because you were too fat and hurt your ankle doing your once a year pt test.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice larp homo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw your existence is such paradise that wagecucks literally can't believe it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have no doubt you are a disabled jarhead retard barely subsisting somewhere around the poverty line in America (which is why you travel to poor countries).
          >fucking and impregnating wives, fiances and gfs of beta bucks
          This is the obvious larp. Everyone knows you are just having sex with cheap ugly whores.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hmm, wrong, and wrong. I get almost €2000 monthly in bennies for depression. More than enough to live like a decedent emperor in SEA and cuck retarded yanks who leave their other halves there for months at a time and think guys like me won't shoot ropes in them.

            Also impregnated a Latina who was married a couple years ago, that was almost by accident tho.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How long are you allowed to travel without losing your gibs? Or are they work/military related so not to disappear where you're no longer a resident?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A month, although my social worker knows people who live abroad for months at a time and nothing happens. I'm a good boy though. I let my socialized healthcare services clean up my STDs FOR FREE every month when I get back.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you just travel for 28 days, return for 4, and rinse and repeat? Or only a certain number of months every year?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >unironically bragging on a Siamese knitting forum about being a poor loser with genital warts

                Don’t end up like this guy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Al my STDs are cured, thanks to wagies like you, and I have 5 kids to my name, how many do you have mr wagecuck?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have 10 kids and never had STDs because I don't have sex with stinky diseased whores also my ten kids mom isn't a diseased whore who ducks losers like you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >10 kids
                I'm sorry anon

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Someone with 10 kids (presumably legitimate) wouldn't have time to poorly troll the travel board of sighsee.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can’t cure hpv, your cock quite literally will give women cervical and throat cancer in their 40s. Single men like you die in their 50s, and you will not have the looks nor the money to fuck any women in any country during th last 15 sad years of your life.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You can’t cure hpv, your cock quite literally will give women cervical and throat cancer in their 40s

                Just have the women get vaccinated and yourself vaccinated u retard

                >Single men like you die in their 50s, an

                Why do you want to live 100?

                >ll not have the looks nor the money to fuck any women in any country during th last 15 sad years of your life.

                Why do o get the feel youre a butthurt roastie or a butthurt cuck married to an ugly roastie who wishes he was single?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You incel losers have a death wish and that's why you seek out diseased whores, similar mindset to trannies, feminists and queers going to pozz parties. Try improving yourself instead of killing yourself

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why does it matter to you what an incel does with his time? How shitty must your life be to be enraged over based incels on hiv prophylactic meds fucking hot high class prostitutes who are routinely tested raw?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Paying for prostitutes
                >Based
                Kek. Keep telling yourself that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Youre paying for sex one way or another wether its dates or hundreds of hours of ur time courting a dumb bitch

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Youre paying for sex one way or another wether its dates or hundreds of hours of ur time courting a dumb bitch
                is this your cope? pay hookers if you want I don't care but this made up cope of yours is pathetic. I have seen you or other people repeat this line again and again. The beta cucks who marry some roastie whore are the ones doing that like the nintendo gay s-o-y boys you see on reddit, regular men dont do that shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you care?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I wasnt the guy you were talking to before, I am just saying stop coping idiot. It means you care a lot if you need to cope and say "every man is paying in some way hehe" gay

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is cope, because some men aren't paying for whores or roasties. Chads get it free and celibates don't pay either. Only thirsty simps pay for used and diseased pussy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is cope, because some men aren't paying for whores or roasties. Chads get it free and celibates don't pay either. Only thirsty simps pay for used and diseased pussy

                Again, why do you care?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you care?

                why do you care?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I literally don't care if someone else has sex, it doesn't affect me. Why do you care if someone else has sex? Honestly asking here.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you do care because you are coping saying every man pays and replying to every post about it incel loser, go pay a diseased whore and tell yourself every man pays during it and you might feel a little bit better about yourself

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the guy that said that. I'm just asking why you care so much about other people having sex. It doesn't affect you in the slightest, so why do you care?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is cope, because some men aren't paying for whores or roasties. Chads get it free and celibates don't pay either. Only thirsty simps pay for used and diseased pussy

                you do care because you are coping saying every man pays and replying to every post about it incel loser, go pay a diseased whore and tell yourself every man pays during it and you might feel a little bit better about yourself

                Why do you Christcucks always freak the fuck out when two people have sex? What do you have to gain from these panic attacks you constantly have?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you loser incels brag about fucking diseased whores?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Answer the question, why do you care so much about how someone has sex? It doesn't affect you, so why do you care so much?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the guy that said that. I'm just asking why you care so much about other people having sex. It doesn't affect you in the slightest, so why do you care?

                Youre paying for sex one way or another wether its dates or hundreds of hours of ur time courting a dumb bitch

                Why does it matter to you what an incel does with his time? How shitty must your life be to be enraged over based incels on hiv prophylactic meds fucking hot high class prostitutes who are routinely tested raw?

                >You can’t cure hpv, your cock quite literally will give women cervical and throat cancer in their 40s

                Just have the women get vaccinated and yourself vaccinated u retard

                >Single men like you die in their 50s, an

                Why do you want to live 100?

                >ll not have the looks nor the money to fuck any women in any country during th last 15 sad years of your life.

                Why do o get the feel youre a butthurt roastie or a butthurt cuck married to an ugly roastie who wishes he was single?

                [...]
                Your mistake is that you assume you're replying to a man. There is a woman trolling this thread. She worked in China, has hit the wall, and she is bitter and pissed off as fuck.

                why do you care if a "roastie" "dumb bitch" as you call them has sex with chads? Literally why do you care how someone else has sex?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                When did I use the term "roastie" or "dumb bitch" as you put it? Please link the quote, because at this point you're just creating a false narrative. You're clearly desperate to avoid answering my question, which is kind of pathetic and sad. Just answer the question honestly. Why do you care how another person has sex? It doesn't affect you in the least bit, so why does it matter to you? Stop moving goal posts and simply answer the question.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so proud that you fuck diseased whores? Why do you brag about incel loser behaviors to strangers?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Answer the question, anon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm still waiting for you to quote me. You're creating false narratives because you know you've lost the argument. Prove me wrong or fuck off.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Hundreds of hours to court a girl
                Imagine being THIS bad at picking up to think it takes hundreds of hours to pick up a girl. Fucking kek.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Youre paying for sex one way or another wether its dates or hundreds of hours of ur time courting a dumb bitch

                Your mistake is that you assume you're replying to a man. There is a woman trolling this thread. She worked in China, has hit the wall, and she is bitter and pissed off as fuck.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Paying for prostitutes
                >Based
                Kek. Keep telling yourself that

                The real question is why do you even care? It's honestly kind of pathetic that you put this much emotional energy into thinking about other people's dicks and how they get them wet. I'm honestly asking at this point, why do you care so much about how other people have sex? Why does it bother you if it doesn't remotely affect you in any way?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >2000 euros a month
              yeah, so poverty tier mentally ill retard.
              >cuck retarded yanks who leave their other halves there for months at a time
              keep larping if it helps your depression you silly weak minded gay

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget to smile extra hard for shekelberg this morning wagie, wouldn't want to get your pay docked. And try to watch out you don't get shanked by a fresh batch of Somalians and Haitians that your tax dollars pay to house and feed.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is a good salary to you? 2000 euros a month is not bad if there's no tax on it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                2000 euros a month is 24k a year. 24k euros is basically 24k USD. in America anything below 31k is classified as literally impoverished. i expect the threshold is even higher in europe due to the astronomical cost of living.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >in America
                That’s the point. We’re not talking about the US with an insane cost of living

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >We’re not talking about the US with an insane cost of living
                Can you even fucking read?
                >i expect the threshold is even higher in europe due to the astronomical cost of living.
                The cost of living in most of Europe is far higher than the majority of the US unless you are talking about shitty backwater countries like Poland. Therefore, even 34k a year is probably poverty tier, let alone 24.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Comparing post-tax European salaries with post-tax American salaries doesn't really work, because EU deductions from salaries pay for more than US deductions from salaries.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pays for more refugees i guess

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He specifically referred to SEA, moron. You can live like a king here compared to in the west.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he cant even follow a conversation
                >I have no doubt you are a disabled jarhead retard barely subsisting somewhere around the poverty line in America (which is why you travel to poor countries).
                anon is saying he specifically has to live in shitty poor asian countries because in the west he is literally below the poverty line. learn how to understand what you read before sperging out and erroneously calling everyone else a retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I live in Asia actually, and there’s no way in hell I’m going back to the US given how awful things have been there over the past two years

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                lol have you ever been in Europe?

                2000€ after tax is double what many people earn in southern Europe.

                Keep in mind that you don't:
                - pay for a medical insurance
                - pay for your children school and university
                - pay x000€/month rent for a shitty apartment

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most people in Europe can't afford medical care everywhere I go I see untreated illness, swollen limbs, legs wrapped in old clothes leaking pus, varicose veins, cripples limping on homemade crutches, just basic shit they can't even afford medicine. The only healthy looking people are the Africans and Muslims that get government assistance for all their needs

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The only healthy looking people are the Africans and Muslims that get government assistance for all their needs

                Ah yes, the government ignores white people and gives africans and muslims free treatment as needed

                Back to >>>pol

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >redditor can't into bluetext

                You have to go back

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You've clearly never been to Southern Europe

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been there and I know that many people are earning 1000€ BEFORE tax. 1000€ AFTER tax is actually a decent income in Southern Europe

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >southern Europe
                yes, I qualified my statement thusly
                >unless you are talking about shitty backwater countries

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Spain and Greece
                >shitty backwater countries
                100% better than your mutthole

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Have you ever actually been to Greece? It is dirt poor, absolutely falling to pieces, riddled with petty criminals, and has a lower HDI than Estonia. Quit acting like a fucking retard.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >he thinks €2,000 is a lot of money

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                In third world countries it is, half your money is probably funneled towards morons, single moms, garden gnomes and hohols

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                hello incel, lost?

                [...]

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How can I be an incel when I've fucked over 50 women for free? That moron semen you swallow must be lowering your iq roastie.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                how old are you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                pathetic waste of dubs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >bukowski
          got any more cringe material for us?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do what everyone else who fucked up their life does and learn to weld. It's a solid 80k/yr low skill job that requires little more than a high tolerance for discomfort (you won't die of cancer as long as you wear ppe but it's hot af and you spend a ton or time in uncomfortable positions) .

    The trade shortage is so bad right now anyone at any age can pick and choose their jobs even if they suck.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a softwawe engineew and doing anything outside the comfowts of my apawtment, wowking with my hands, seems vewy scawy. I don't wike that. This way I can also wowk wemotely

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://voca.ro/11TVdyjgg021

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based... female??????

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah and I happened to already have gum. I read that post and was determined to record it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You could make a looot of psychos fall in love with you

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I guess. Find me in vocaroo threads sometime I do requests

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I've already came to this recording. You're most likely a chud though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This way I can also wowk wemotely
        COPE
        I start my remote job at noon, after shitting, cooming at an Asian massage parlor, and cooking lunch. Then have meetings until 16:00. My day is done and my paycheck secured. I make $145k. Have fun being a slave.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You are a slave to diseased whores. Pathetic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, I'm just anti porn and anti masturbation. It's way better for your mental health

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          what do you for a living, anon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cloud Security for financial companies.
            Learn Kubernetes, Python, and Linux and you'll have a good foundation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >solid 80k/

      Lmao fuck no average wage is like 50k and starting wage is 40k at least in non commie parts of usa

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In the US meybe but the "trades" get payed like absolute shit over here.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >welders 80k
      I’ve heard this myth for 20 years

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >solid 80k/

      Lmao fuck no average wage is like 50k and starting wage is 40k at least in non commie parts of usa

      Why do people lie about shit like this? What is the point?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i basically done this.
      except i went into salmon farming, rather than welding.
      it's the same story though.
      it's a good paying blue collar job and they are desperate for people. you can enter at any age.
      started 3 years ago. now i'm on £40k (for comparison, thats roundabout what a gp/doctor gets paid) a year working 2 week on/2 weeks off rotations in one of the most beautiful parts of the world.
      constantly new farms opening (here in scotland anyway) so there is endless opportunities for progression.
      you can be managing a farm earning £60k+ a year if you have the aptitude for it and apply yourself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good job dude you made it!

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to fund my own travels. The options were to be a lounge singer at hotels every night or a cruise for $2000 a month, or start as an au pair with free lodging, network and get private tutoring and part time language school gigs and make 3~4k a month, and have my own living. And plenty of time to take other classes for fun or improve skills and find higher paid performing jobs. Hell I even got a hotel side job while doing this and was offered a position in the company but ultimately left because it was in China.

    The real losers are the people signing contracts for low salaries and your job, housing, and low wage being owned by some petty Asian business owner who looks down on you all because you had no other prospects and wanted an asian gf. Sexpat losers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Girl traumatized after spending years in China and discovering most men wanted Chinese girlfriends and wouldn't even consider her fat ass
      Bet you're glad to be back home with Jamals blowing you kisses on the street.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the projection, the cope, classic anon

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No anon, that is just how the west is now for white men.
    Diversity quotas and old post wall roasties in HR doing the hiring process. The fact you were in Asia makes them seethe because they know you were with cute Asian girls and not their deformed wrinkled fat fucked up post wall eggless ass.
    Age won't stop you from getting a job if everything else is right unless it is something psychical like fireman.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a BA in Educational studies, I'm prior Navy that worked in the intelligence field, and the only job I can find in the U.S. that pays well and is willing to hire me is Sam's Club. There literally isn't anything lower than what I'm doing now. There is no way in Hell that teaching English in Vietnam is worse.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s sad and crazy. In Canada teachers make 6 figures after not that long.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >6 figs in canadian dollars

        So like 60k in real money

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          more like 78k, which would immediately put you in the top 10% of individual earners. if you had a spouse earning the same it would put you in the top 5% of households.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but then gets taxed into poverty
            >then cant afford 1 million dollar homes in any canadian city

            Canada just seems like a shittier version of USA with even more taxes

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >1 million dollar homes
              not even canadian but literally one minute on any canadian realty site proves this wrong. montreal and the rest of quebec is very inexpensive. so is the east coast.

              these are all the homes listed on just this site with a max price of 500k. why dont you just admit you wanted to be a smarmy gay and got btfo?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              also current federal tax rates are pretty much identical between US/Canada and in certain brackets USA actually taxes more lmao.

              I even crunched the numbers using the province and state with the lowest income tax (chose a state with zero income tax even) and on a salary of 78k USD you are taking home about 62k after FICA contributions. in canada your take home pay would be 79k CAD on the same salary which, funnily enough is 62k usd. so literally the exact same.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >but can't because I'm considered "too old" now.
    That's bullshit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Age discrimination is pretty common place in East and Southeast Asian countries. What makes you think that they don't discriminate based on age?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It isn't in the West and if you can prove it it's actually illegal.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The vast and overwhelming majority of teaching jobs in East and Southeast Asia outright state that you can't be over the age of 50 or 60 to even start the application process. They literally don't give a single shit and it isn't illegal there.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >teaching jobs
            We are talking about a career change into IT. In the West, not in Asia. Keep up, retard.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Please see

              Age discrimination is pretty common place in East and Southeast Asian countries. What makes you think that they don't discriminate based on age?

              where I specifically stated East and Southeast Asia. Try to keep up, retard.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My popular company in vietnam hires new people in their 50s and 60s. In fact they are wealthy retirees from their previous careers and just want to live out their days doing a little teaching for fun while living in a cool environment. One is a great guy, former lawyer and divorced with adult kids with a lot of great stories. And they have no problem employing and sponsoring the visa.

            The problem with age is more with east asian countries than SEA.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't doubt that you can cherry pick a school/agency that will hire older teachers. But to state that age discrimination is more of an East Asian problem as opposed to a Southeast Asian one as well is outright fallacious.

              >Pic related
              >21-50 years old
              Literally the first job offer that came up. It took me all of two seconds to find. Ageism is alive and well in Southeast Asia.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Does one NEED a bachelors to get a job as an english teacher?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Best of luck proving that. No companies hire people at that age unless they are really valuable.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No companies hire people at that age
            LOL what? At that age? Age 30? Mate you are so fucking retarded it isn't even funny.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              50+

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This thread is about alleged age discrimination of someone around 30 years old, which objectively does not exist no matter how much the dipshits ITT want to believe it does.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doomers always have an excuse for their failures.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another doomer thinks his life is over at age 30
    lol maybe just kys then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Trips of truth are correct. What's with all these doomers lately? I swear I see them everywhere lately.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Trips of truth are correct. What's with all these doomers lately? I swear I see them everywhere lately.

      He is kinda right. If you aren't on the right track by the time you hit 30, some doors will remain locked for you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the cult of youth has tricked so many otherwise promising people into just giving up and accepting wageslavery

        people successfully become airline pilots and doctors despite not even beginning down those tracks until their forties. most successful business owners begin their firms in their mid to late thirties.

        ideally you own your house by thirty, but prices skyrocketed the last few years and now rates are so high you'd be an idiot to take them. so bad timing on that. but either way, don't believe this meme because its purposefully spread by the media to get you to give up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is literally me

          I hope you're right. I'm mid-thirties and teaching remotely. Spending a couple hours a day on a Udemy front-end bootcamp because I'm too poor to afford a real bootcamp. It's not enough time, it will take me years to get to a point where I can get some entry-level remote Javascript gig:(

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sheet bro ur already in your mid 30s and u will be 40 before u learn to code? Sad

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            look i'm only right if you choose to not believe your life is over at thirty. if you fall for the prodigy meme then you've failed and your punishment is thirty years in a wagecube before you MAYBE get to retire (a prospect looking more and more doubtful).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why is everyone so obsessed with "learning to code" as if there aren't a myriad of STEM jobs in fields like engineering ... or even lucrative jobs in the oil sector etc etc
            thanks for depressing my wages gays

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >why is everyone so obsessed with "learning to code" as if there aren't a myriad of STEM jobs in fields like engineering
              The engineering job simply existing is nothing special. What does it pay now and in 10 years? The answer to that for FAGMAN-level leetcode ability is ~200k now and ~450k at full senior level.

              Traditional engineering also requires a formal program IIRC, so you can't just crack open some books and a website in your mom's basement and grind to a job.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Seethe retarded wagie

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nice whitepill, but when you drink and do drugs every weekend of your 20s your brain loses the capacity for rigorous education that involves mathematics, which is the only pathway to making real money if you are not the entrepreneurial type. And what poor/uneducated person in their 20s doesn’t do drugs?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >rigorous education that involves mathematics, which is the only pathway to making real money
            this is what mathtards actually have to tell themselves to make them feel better about having the most boring jobs in the universe.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Medicine - rigorous text
              Law - rigorous text
              Business - rigorous math and text
              Engineering - rigorous math

              At the end of the day there’s only one or two 30+ year olds out of hundreds of students in these rigorous programs that are the only way to you good money without doing something entrepreneurial. There’s a reason why community college is full of 30+ year olds, it’s because they know their math/memorization/critical thinking capabilities have severely declined but at least community college offers a better outcome than their current situation

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Business - rigorous math and text

                Haha another college retard, Business majors are where all the dummies go, zero rigorous text or math.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone I know who went into business did so specifically because they were unemployable for social reasons.

                They didn't start a business, they bought themselves a job which they could perform poorly in

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Obviously to get high paying jobs u can get it 3 ways, being a good boy and getting a good career, nepotism, or just making ur own business including social media clout

                All 3 are pretty fucking inacessible to your average disgruntled white gay on sighsee wishing to escape the country with a ged

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        horse shit lmao my grandad fucked off to paris to study theatre when he was 30 just because he felt like it and he eventually became a highly successful media executive. you are just buying in to the bullshit career ladder psyop they drill into you from birth so that you can become a maximally effective wageslave for the machine as early and for as long as possible.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That was decades ago anon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but I think the lesson here is that motivated and capable people will almost always become successful on some level, regardless of whether they follow the prescribed trajectory.

            If you are like OP and you think you ruined your life because you taught English overseas then that is going to become your reality. He is a defeatist, and defeatists are losers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >coping boomer
      >still staying in youth hostels
      >wearing baseball caps and tanktops
      >carrying a skateboard around
      >asking fellow youth how they are doing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I literally don't do any of those things lol I never even really traveled that much and have never stayed in a hostel in my life. One day you will turn 30 and either you will believe retards on sighsee and think oh god my life is over I'm finished or you will just realise that it's not a big deal at all lmao

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God what a shit thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Teaching english is one of my backup plans to reach the promised land of Japan or southeast asia, im not an ambitious person at all and just want to live a comfortable life so none of the downsides you listed really apply to people like me.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >with nothing to show

    But doesnt smashing dozens of asian pussy count for something?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is SEA the cheapest place on earth? Being an english teacher in the phillipinnes with a live in whore sounds amazing right now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can't teach English in the Philippines, Vietnam was the best place but they changed the rules.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'll have to do research on the rules that neighbouring countries have on being an English teacher. I like filipina girls for some reason, some of them have a bit of bodyfat in the right places, most asians have really flat asses.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be retard american
    >education is prohibitively expensive
    >therefore upskill is prohibitively expensive
    >life is over at 30 unless you made exactly the right choices at exactly the right times when you were dumbass kid
    lol, lmao even

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's the secret, it's over at 30 either way

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not for men.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >english teacher
    >career
    like how, you just teach english

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s just like any other career. Get experience, get more qualifications, earn more money.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm mid 30s and just now learning to code. Fuck what anyone says. Will I financially surpass crypto zoomers who started programming in their teens? Probably not. Are there countless people in my age group who made better decisions about their life early on that led them to success? For sure. Will dwelling on any of that serve any other purpose than to put up mental barricades that handicap me before I even get started? No. Will it assist me in my goals? Fuck no.

    The timeless skills that make your life enjoyable and worth living aren't coding, business or tech related. They are problem solving and strategic ways to approach obstacles whether internal or external. That's all you need. If you don't have them then believe me - you would still be in a depressive unmotivated defeatist state regardless of whether you spent a decade teaching in Asia or a decade building future-proof tech skills. You don't have to be better than anyone else - just be better than the person you were yesterday.

    Now get off sighsee and back to work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They are problem solving and strategic ways to approach obstacles whether internal or external. That's all you need.
      Nice world salad. You'll fit right in in tech.
      In all seriousness good luck man.

      why is everyone so obsessed with "learning to code" as if there aren't a myriad of STEM jobs in fields like engineering ... or even lucrative jobs in the oil sector etc etc
      thanks for depressing my wages gays

      >thanks for depressing my wages gays
      Yeah this shit sucks. I do not look forward to competing with mongrels for the privilege of being abused by corporate boomers
      I just hope the stories about my non autistic normalfag counterparts not being able to operate terminals even after months of instruction, not being able to into design patterns, and etc., are true

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm mid 30s and just now learning to code. Fuck what anyone says. Will I financially surpass crypto zoomers who started programming in their teens? Probably not.
      Holy blog post, anon
      You sound like a gay, which is perfect for a tech career

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry Zhang but your post is just a LARP. I taught English for a year and it was an amazingly fun time. Before that though I got a degree in Management Information Systems. Once my year was done I jumped into an IT job in the US.

    >too old for IT
    lmao I literally just told my 45 year old sister to get an AWS Cloud Practitioner cert and she got an IT help desk job for $60,000 in the Midwest with zero previous experience.
    Either you're lying (which you are) or a complete fucking retard.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    righto cunts
    who wants to actually collect an easy 100k a year without uni and shit....i'll happily give u the guide

    dumb cucks here dont even realise their are WFH gigs where you literally send 4-5 emails a day and collect 70k a year.....

    righto cunt, cap this
    >> 1-go to linkedin (seek and co. are trash) , search contract admin or something generic

    >> 2-click on a few different cucks roasties profile with that title, rip their job descriptions and add this to a resume file with your name

    >> 3-now go look for companies that have gone bankrupt in the last few years, congrats now u worked for them for 2-4 years each

    now spam this fake resume around to generic applicaitons on linkedin

    you WILL get interviews, to pass this just recite stories from your fake resume and tell them you want WFH and a 90k to move

    eventually you get an offer, do the bare minimum, get booted after a few months and rinse and repeat

    beats neetbux by a mile

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/65OgB5P.png

      I don't doubt that you can cherry pick a school/agency that will hire older teachers. But to state that age discrimination is more of an East Asian problem as opposed to a Southeast Asian one as well is outright fallacious.

      >Pic related
      >21-50 years old
      Literally the first job offer that came up. It took me all of two seconds to find. Ageism is alive and well in Southeast Asia.

      My plan, get the money and visa to relocate to somewhere to teach english (sponsored by the company) after a while scam my way into a remote wfh job like anon says, save some money and then aqcuire an actual skill so I can contribute eventually.

      Worst case scenario I become a homeless vagabond

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >aqcuire an actual skill so I can contribute eventually.

        If youre not doing this now and postponing it already then its over youre just too lazy to have a goood life

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yea I know

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My guess is you are applying at the wrong kind of companies. There is an artificial premium paced around big name companies, which actually for the most part take you for a ride and provide you no benefit and provide a lot of pressure just for the label.

    Also, the kind of role you should be looking at is sales. It is the most forgiving in terms of entry, while being ruthless in terms of long term employability because you are targeted on metrics. If you are good enough at listening to people and not a total sperg you'll make money in this, speaking as a formal (nearly went TEFL) teacher who was sick of the shit money.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you doing tech sales?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, the best kind.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          how did you get into it? im doing IT atm but my coding sucks and sales sounds like its up my alley

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I applied to a shitty boiler room job and changed position every 2 years, upgrading salary as I went. I eventually worked at a Swiss bank and became top of the leaderboard and got poached by a headhunter in tech.

            I started when I was 26 and it is a LOT easier when you're younger because you don't have the fear of rejection or hard graft as much as when you pass 30.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know plenty of people who did ESL and did fine out of it, including me.
    I also know people who got trapped in Asia raising half breed kids with no skills and no way out.
    The way that you end up in the first category is you have to do more than just be an ESL fag. The easiest is to transition in to bring a real teacher.
    But you're best off learning the local language and getting in with a local business scene. I know ESL fags who turned in to journalists, factory managers and guys running their own businesses among other things.
    The problem is that outside of teaching, you may find your expertise is related to the country you know and know the language of, making the transition home difficult - you're more useful out there.
    So if you think the locals are dickheads (*cough, China, cough*) then maybe best to plan your exit asap.
    Also even if you get to go back and line up a job, the nature of the expat lifestyle means that you may seem like a crazy out of touch alcoholic weirdo when you return.
    I talk to ex expat friends about the beating we all took returning home and starting up in the world of work in the West. Very very different.
    I also know a few guys who came back feeling like they were capable and flexible only to return overseas with their tails between their legs within the first year. This isn't just teachers by the way, I know a corporate lawyer guy who did that.
    It's a great adventure for a year or two after university. Anything more than that and you need a plan. If you have no plan, time to go home and take your licks and figure it out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good advice. The transition back is tough, but if you put it off with no plan, it's going to be brutal.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're not too old for IT. You too old to be paid to learn.

    Young kids fresh out of university corporations hire as junior devs. At this point in your career you actually are terrible at coding and these companies are taking a gamble, an investment, that once you are taught to actually code you will start making the company actual money, and making your salary worth it.

    If you want to get into tech as an older adult then you need to teach yourself how to code and be better than any university student at coding. For example, as soon as you are hired you should immediately start making the company money with your skills.

    That's it. Be worth your salary. University students are NOT for the first 3 to 6 months.

    Also do web development. It's super high in demand and is really the fundamental layer of modern programming. And they say "learn Javascript and you'll never go hungry"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You're not too old for IT. You too old to be paid to learn.
      Dumbest post ITT. A 20 something retard too big for his britches wrote this post. The cost of training a 20 year old and a 30 year old with the same education/skillset are the same. You are not even considering the fact that young people are much less reliable and are constantly looking to move up and therefore more likely to move out, where an older candidate is much more interested in long term stability which means he is more likely to remain with the company for longer and earn them much more over the course of his career.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was once a T/L6-7 (6 doing 7 work weeeeee) and you are wrong.

        Fresh grads are useless, and I'm field they continue to be useless for min 10 months. My team required 16 months of training before we'd let them commit anything with normal review process.

        They are not dumb kids. It's just the nature of the work that need the new hires to learn and adjust.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not the guy you're replying to but you're wrong and you're being unnecessarily rude about it (usually evidence that it's you who doesn't know what he's talking about).
        There are lots of disadvantages to trying to start a professional career in your 30s or even late 20s. And one that hasn't been mentioned yet is that companies - especially the big ones that provide a lot of the graduate training schemes - are much more keen on young people in their early 20s they can mould the way they want than grown men with some life experience and their own ideas about how to do things.
        If they're going to invest in training you, they want young people and while there are exceptions to the rule, it is just a massive cope to pretend you are not at a major disadvantage trying to get in to a career as a 30 year old, especially a 30 year old whose background says "slacker who didn't push himself for the last decade".

        OP you're not without hope, but you've got some ground to make up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          wrong
          the only young people they hire and train are either H1B visas replacing their higher paid workers or women/non-whites for diversity quotas.
          That is the real reason a white person in 30s wont get a job there.
          Don't beat yourself up OP.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So how many interviews have you done as the interviewer, anon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not even contradicting me.
            Yeah they only want poos and diversities, so you're saying you won't get hired and trained at 20 or 30.

            I'm literally a recruitment officer. A tremendous amount of highly skilled people are entering the work force much later. 40 or 50 puts you at a major disadvantage. 30 is literally nothing, and many highly skilled people don't even finish their education until around this age.

            I have no idea how you can enter the work force and be highly skilled. Surely if you were out of the work force you don't have relevant skills?
            And you're not contradicting me either because "ESL boozer for ten years" will not read as highly skilled.

            It's fucking tough out there and there's no point pretending it's not.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You incel losers think your white privilege gets you hired over hard working educated coloreds, it doesn't

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's hilarious you think "hard work" is the key to success. You are comically ignorant.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I have no idea how you can enter the work force and be highly skilled.
              It's almost as if you develop skills through education.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Goes to university, learns that men can give birth, white people are evil and he is killing the planet unless he adopts 5 Africans, graduates with a degree in College Retard and $100,000 in debt, works at Starcucks

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he goes to university to study shit like art history
                what do you expect?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's not an university anon, i suggest you move to a real country with real education

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm literally a recruitment officer. A tremendous amount of highly skilled people are entering the work force much later. 40 or 50 puts you at a major disadvantage. 30 is literally nothing, and many highly skilled people don't even finish their education until around this age.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You're not too old for IT. You too old to be paid to learn.
      Dumbest post ITT. A 20 something retard too big for his britches wrote this post. The cost of training a 20 year old and a 30 year old with the same education/skillset are the same. You are not even considering the fact that young people are much less reliable and are constantly looking to move up and therefore more likely to move out, where an older candidate is much more interested in long term stability which means he is more likely to remain with the company for longer and earn them much more over the course of his career.

      OP also more than likely has better interpersonal skills than 9/10 of new entrants to the workforce and also probably has some knowledge of Mandarin which is a huge boon. On top of that he has a proven record of being successful in a managerial position which is what a teacher effectively is.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: I pay taxes so morons can reproduce

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >doomers circle jerking each other about how everyone has definitely failed and their life is over after age 29
    >pessimistic idealists argue that upskilling yourself in the 21st century is pointless unless you are a literal teenager
    what a bunch of fucking losers lmao millennials are the absolute WORST generation and it isnt even fucking close. this thread is barely sighsee btw

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are posting in an engineered demoralization thread just report it and move on.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm a former English teacher in my 30s. I primarily taught in China and somewhat in Vietnam, and all I have to say is: DON'T DO IT!
    I already saved up $800k from my career. Just about to turn 30 and THEN I will go teach Enlgish.

    The non-life ruining ways to do it are a year or two after undergrad, before gettint into your proper career/grad school or after saving up a pile

    There are a small # of exceptions that can break the mold. e.g. teach a couple years then make a local business. You'll know if you're the exception.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, how the fuck have you managed to save $800k in the space of 7-8 years assuming you graduated from college at 22 in addition to a student loan.

      I have moved positions and saved like 95% of my salary on a literal top 1% salary and at 27 have $315k equivalent. Is this a larp or did you strike big from crypto.

      When I returned to the UK I didn't have any money saved up I'd blown it all on backpacking around SE Asia. I started a masters degree but dropped out after 2 months as the course was very demanding and I was not on track to pass. I had taken out a government sponsoered loan and also got a loan from my father and was now in debt. I then spent 6 months looking for a graduate job. I probably applied for about 100 jobs and had about 6 face to face interviews before landing my first job as junior consultant. I was age 27 and on £25k at my first. After 4 years at that company I left to work a contractor which is when I started making good money. I've been doing that for the last few years and paid of all my debt a while ago.

      Don't you ever miss Asia and the adventures? I can't wait to leave the UK, it's such a complete an utter shithole.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Don't you ever miss Asia and the adventures
        Not him but that shits got to be lonely after awhile. New friends at every spot isn’t the same as real friends.
        Also everywhere looks the same after awhile.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but I hit the $800k mark at age 33. By then I've already been to Japan 5 times.

        My old company's stock price 10x for the 10 years I was with them. Then I dumped half my savings into Roth IRA and traded EV stocks (and paid the over-contribution penalty.)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah something like this is my goal. I blew all my savings in undergrad partying with my fraternity and friends. Now graduated at 24 and will aim to save maybe $30,000 a year, more if my salary handles it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Anon, how the fuck have you managed to save $800k in the space of 7-8 years assuming you graduated from college at 22 in addition to a student loan.
        >I have moved positions and saved like 95% of my salary on a literal top 1% salary and at 27 have $315k equivalent. Is this a larp or did you strike big from crypto.
        I did what you did, but also invested in crypto.

        My student loans from a top 10 university were like $30k that I cleaned up 2/3 of in my first year out of college. I still have $10k student debt on my net worth sheet because it's super low interest kek

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was an ESL teacher in Korea and Taiwan from age 22-26. I'm now 34 and make £100k per year working in data analytics. So it's definitely possible to transition into a career at home after an ESL stint.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I was an ESL teacher in Korea and Taiwan from age 22-26. I'm now 34 and make £100k
      Wait I immediately have a few questions that might help others learn from your post; I'm 29 and already been doing a career track progression, so I might pull a reverse version.

      What happened in ages 27-34? Shit jobs, back to school, self study, what salary level, etc?
      Like what did you start doing as soon as you landed in Europe again?
      How much had you saved up from 22-26?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When I returned to the UK I didn't have any money saved up I'd blown it all on backpacking around SE Asia. I started a masters degree but dropped out after 2 months as the course was very demanding and I was not on track to pass. I had taken out a government sponsoered loan and also got a loan from my father and was now in debt. I then spent 6 months looking for a graduate job. I probably applied for about 100 jobs and had about 6 face to face interviews before landing my first job as junior consultant. I was age 27 and on £25k at my first. After 4 years at that company I left to work a contractor which is when I started making good money. I've been doing that for the last few years and paid of all my debt a while ago.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. OPs main problem is he is projecting all of his failures onto a decision to work in China because it's easy to blame anything but your own self when really the problem lies entirely within you. Deep down OP is unmotivated and therefore, on the surface at least, extremely incapable.

      Besides, you're supposed to be doing what you want in life. If OP had truly desired to go to China he wouldn't regret his decision at all. And if he had fulfilled his true desires then he would be happier, more motivated, and therefore more successful. All he wants is a pity party.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you sound like a retard doomer gay

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You will ruin your career and professional life. I went back home a few years ago and I've been trying to pivot into IT, but can't because I'm considered "too old" now.
    Fuck Man this is painfully true. I spent 2012-2014 in Europe teaching English. I came back to the US as ancient history; professionally speaking. I am still suffering from it.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You were a loser with no real skills from the beginning, and never developed one, thats why you are here

    t. programmer who travels the world while doing remote work

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. front-end javascript webdev pleb working for startups who are unaware they are committing a varying degree of visa and tax law violations.

      Enjoy it while it lasts anon, if you're from the US it's going to be even more painful.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's yet another "code monkey so fucking autistic they presume everyone wants to do what they're doing" post

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you go into teaching English without making it into a career, that’s on you.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I work in retail and have been sexless for 10 years.

    DO TEACH ENGLISH ABROAD, you'll be a loser but having people to have beers with and having sex will make ya happier.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to Vietnam in a few months for TEFL, only have an associates degree I hope I can find a job lol

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You were never going to have this career regardless.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: acidic comments with no value, people pretending to earn 6 figures and copious amounts of self-pity
    This thread does not belong on sighsee

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Right lads, I landed a 6 month contract job as a Teaching assistant in Hong Kong with the British Council. How do I land a teaching job when I'm already in Hong Kong (I'm a qualified teacher in England)

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le it's because I'm white that I can't get good jobs meme
    Look at senior management in any company. It's all white people.
    You're just shit, mate. Stick to travelling to SEA for sex.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >old white boomers and gen X that got in before the diversity bullshit and wont quit and lower positions filled with diversity quotas
      ok

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t-they're all b-
        Nope. They're people in their late 30s at the bare minimum. You're coping so hard right now kek.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's right, you are mediocre, maybe that was good enough in the past but if you can't outcompete coloreds and vaginas then you get nothing no matter how much white privilege you think you deserve, it's not your country anymore you are all cattle in a pen.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's what you get for supporting China.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone know how to context with China without a shit load of spyware?

    Anything app level or encrypted is totally out, what's the most common platform Chinese use that doesn't require ID to access?

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You will ruin your career and professional life.
    What career? I've had to work minimum wage for the past 9 years. That sounds like it would be an improvement if anything.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you will end up shitting on Japan or China on r/circlejerk

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're fucking white failure for even attempting to use your skin color as a means of dominating lower races. It brings me great pleasure that you're a failure in life and that only shit will come your way. Thanks for playing enjoy an-hero'ing

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This cry of despair has the same energy as pic related.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I went back home a few years ago and I've been trying to pivot into IT, but can't because I'm considered "too old" now.
    sighsee and former government leech here, get a job in the federal government. They're DESPERATE for IT talent because they pay much less in salary, but you'll definitely make it up in benefits, and they don't give a shit about your age.

    Do that, get a security clearance to do IT in the SCIFs and secret spaces, then go be a contractor (big salaries) or work for Amazon or Microsoft in their classified datacenters. Shouldn't take you more than 5 years to rehabilitate your IT career and it'll be comfy while you do it (5 years is only because of how long the background checks take).

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