Emigration

It was fantastic, living in Suffolk. I lived near a tiny village, Coney Weston. Not too far away from Bury St. Edmunds to be inconvenient, but far enough away that you were smack dab in the middle of farm country. Closest town with a high street would have been Thetford.

>where are you guys going?

A major cosmopolitan Mediterranean city. My GF is a local. A lot of people there speak English, and there are plenty of English speaking jobs there, however I’m learning the language. I get by fine there speaking English when I’m there though which is very often.

To anyone that cares, I’ll tell a little story.

I went to the city I intend on moving to outside of the UK for a few weeks, a couple of months ago. Place is beautiful, architecture is stunning, lovely nature and greenery everywhere, not to mention the weather even in winter is an easy 15 degrees. People overall friendly- never once had a particularly bad interaction there either.

I come back to the UK and it’s pissing it down with rain, as usual. Not far from the airport, I’m driving home and going through some small town with not much there. A fairly shitty looking small 90s shopping centre, a couple of pubs and a school. I’m driving by these crummy, small, depressing looking row houses with literally fucking nothing of interest around.

I get out of my car to go grab a drink from the shop. As soon as I get out, a group of 5 or so chavvy little scumbags wearing balaclavas and tracksuits. I see them spot me, actively walk over to me then shout at me, I guess trying to see if they could intimidate me before robbing me or whatever. I pass them off since I’m used to it and not particularly intimated by little toe-rags, still, not pleasant.

I get home and out of interest I look at how much houses were in that town. 350-400k. For fucking what? To live in a damp, shoddy shithole town full of scum, little to no sunny days, with nothing to do, all to work for the rest of my life to pay off a crummy old small shitbox?

That last hour solidified my beliefs and made it clear to me, how utterly shit this country is.

Good luck to you anon, but let me tell you a story, the reason those "row houses" are so expensive is that theyre in a country that actually has worth - sure you can knock the weather and the tracksuit wearing chavs but whatever developing nation you're planning on emigrating to will have it's issues as well, you're also going to be incredibly reliant on your partner, good luck of anything goes wrong there. Also without being too much of a doomer there's a reason that everyone wants to move to the UK from the type of country you're moving to. Still I hope it works out for you, you're doing better than most of the larpers on here but be careful what you wish for, every country had pitfalls and developing nations ones are much deeper than here

Where I’m moving to isn’t a developing nation, it literally has a higher HDI than my region in England, and frankly most regions here in the UK based on the research I’ve done.

On all fronts, it’s very marginally more expensive than my city in the UK, with average wages basically on-par. I can tell you though, 100% positive, as someone who’s used the public services in both countries from the police to public transport to hospitals, the UK is really, really in a bad state and is incredibly piss poor in those aspects despite the fact that we’re apparently ‘more developed’.

The benefit? I get better weather, prettier surroundings, nicer people and a safer more enjoyable living environment.

Is it perfect? Nah, it has it’s problems, just as you suggested. I’m not deluding myself into some fairytale. For me, the benefit of just being able to wake up in the morning, having a coffee on my balcony at my GFs, whilst overlooking the winding old Mediterranean city streets with the sun shining on my face, outweighs anything I’ll find in the UK.

Don’t get me wrong, I can see why plenty of people in the Mediterranean (for example) want to move to somewhere like the UK. It’s got it’s benefits, for unskilled work there’s better pay, and for more niche career fields/opportunities for progression that wouldn’t necessarily exist at home in abundance, even if the quality of life here isn’t anywhere near as good. Most of those people don’t end up settling here though. They’ll come, earn their money, get their experience or education, then head home after a few years once they’re jaded by it all.

Me mudaré a donde quiera, aunque gracias.

It’s fine, don’t worry about it.

Barcelona was a great guess though, well done on getting it right haha.

I do want to move, I’m looking at summer. I’ve spent months exploring the city in the last year and I like to think that I know it really well at this point.

Also, I hear you on guiri-fication and why it’s not something that you’d particularly want, but it seems like the Spanish/Catalan traditions, events, festivals are still incredibly popular. I go regularly to a bar in El Born, and quite literally everyone there is Spanish. A good mix of people too, young, old, it’s just a pleasant environment late into the night. Literally nothing like it in the UK whatsoever these days.

Oh! Then you will move to Spain. I have heard that Spanish girls are very pretty.

not an argument

Seeing as you've (you)ed me I'll respond.
I think my issue stems from the fact that most of the people on this sperg forum that have the same attitude as you ie
>The west is dying
>There's no hope for the white man
>White women are the devil because they only want black men so I need to leave the country to find a tradwife
Etc etc, not saying all those apply to you but whenever I read these "I'm leaving the country for good" LARP posts it's always the same thing, some autistic chud who was lucky enough to be born in the first world in a developed country and despite all the advantages that people are literally risking their lives crossing the channel in inflatable boats to get you've somehow managed to fuck it all up, end up as a fully fledged adult with no wife, no home and no prospects and somehow it's the countries fault - or immigrants - or Islam - without accepting any responsibility for their own actions.
I don't disagree that there are other countries in the world where you can survive and thrive, I've lived abroad myself but this idea that somehow the UK "is going to shit" is unironically only spouted by people who are doing dreadfully in life, all the people I know who are earning well and living good never say shit like that it's always the toothless job centre visitors.
Yes there are countries with better weather but most people have lives, friends, homes, families that the prospect of moving somewhere for a bit more sun is at best retarded. Are taxes high? Sure but they tend to be in most places worth living, are health services over stretched? Sure because where we live is actually desirable. I'd be interested to see what your feelings are 2 years on from whatever emigration you do, hopefully the locals don't hate you as much as the Brits seem to hate our immigrants

I literally have 0 idea what this means but ok. You also have an incredibly poor grasp of British history if you think
>Ireland wants out
Based on the above I have 0 interest in your opinion of the UK

>>The west is dying
's no hope for the white man
women are the devil because they only want black men so I need to leave the country to find a tradwife
These things are objectively true, I'm not even white and I can see that

What does a healthy society on an upward trajectory look like to you?

>a healthy society is one that doesn't reproduce

Shitlib mental gymnastics

OK, but what Poland would have in its favor is presumably exactly what 'right wing morons' claim is lacking in Britain?

There is a difference between people who complain about their situation and people who do something about it. The people who are from outside the job center or who have no prospects are firmly in the first category. You can generally tell who is in what camp by how strongly they word their intention to leave