Europe in Two Weeks

Accounting for one day for the flight in; this is my 14 day trip around Europe. Outside of this schedule is there anything special I should stop and see along the way?
Thanks in advanced.

btw my budget is $2000. that should be good enough for two weeks right? I'm renting a car I hope gas isn't too bad over there.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're itinerary in France is retarded and shows a lack of knowledge about the country.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but Paris and Marseille are two of the shittiest cities in the world let alone France. Bordeaux and Antibes for example are wonderful places.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Marseille is shit but Calanques and Cassis which are next to it are really beautiful. I recommended to many people and they were all very happy about it.
          Paris is not that bad especially if you want good food and great art and culture. Food scene is unbeatable.

          Explain

          Your issue is that the road you’re taking is boring as fuck. You go through the deadest and most boring routes.
          Either go through Lyon and Grenoble (if you go to the East), or go down through the western coast (a gem).

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Paris is shit

          You’re joking right. Best city in Europe, bar Munich

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Paris is better than Rome
            >Paris is better than Barcelona
            >Paris is better than Amsterdam
            >Paris is better than Bordeaux
            >Paris is better than Toulouse
            You could not be more wrong even if you tried to be

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I like Paris more than those cities. Are you just too poor to enjoy it?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i like paris more, whats wrong, too poor to enjoy it?
                >being too retarded to realize the other cities can be just as, if not more expensive than Paris
                >trying to dunk on others by literally being the "rich in money, poor in taste" stereotype
                If you've gone to Paris consistently over the past decade you'd know that it's been undergoing a steady and managed decline as its charm is continually stripped away bit by bit. Does it have a good food scene and things to do for high prices? Yeah. Does a luxury food scene nestled between garbage, filth and graffiti beat out other European cities with the same offerings but less trash and filth? No. Does the insane amount of trash and urban decay take away from the lone street of restaurants and arts museums it encircles? Absolutely.

                The deterioration of Paris is so bad, even boomer media is covering it as a massive problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIaMOKF_TUk

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >torygraph

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Paris definitely better than Toulouse, yes. For sure. You cannot complain about shitskins in Paris if you liked Toulouse.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the only reason to hate paris is diversity
                Lad, the whole place is falling apart so massively even the local parisians have started twitter hashtags dedicated to witnessing the decay of the city. From deforestation, lack of maintenance and the rise of concrete blocks shitting up roads and sidewalks, theres a lot to dislike before you even factor in the migration issue.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Explain

  2. 2 months ago
    SAGE

    >hope gas isn't too bad over there
    oh no no no no

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >two weeks in europe
    >10 stops
    American In Europe Syndrome is truly a nasty sight to behold. As a burger, I get wanting to see it all because it's so expensive to go to Europe but you're not going to see ANYTHING with this itinerary. If you have 3 weeks you need to pick a few spots you really want to do and stick to it, because otherwise you're really just going to a landmark for an instagram photo before you move on to the next one rather than actually stopping and being somewhere.

    Italy is clearly the hallmark here, you're best off doing shit like:
    >Fly to Barcelona or Madrid (pick ONE for 3 days)
    >few days there and fly to Rome for minimum of 4 days
    >rent a car and go to florence (1 day and night)
    >continue to bologna and stop at cinque terre for an overnight or two
    >drive to Venice final stop and spend the rest of your time there
    >fly back home from Venice
    Alternatively, you can fly to rome directly then do Rome > Florence >Venice > Genoa or Milan > French Riviera > Fly out of Nice Airport to connect to major airport and go home.

    Rome should take a minimum of 4 days because: downtown itself, foro romano + coliseum, and the Vatican + trastevere at night takes 3 FULL days entirely.

    If you insist on keeping your itinerary, the only thing special will be you and the special stop you should go to is a lobotomy center.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a list of cities

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just take a train

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stupid idea unless you only want to do cities.
      A car is an absolute must if you want to do nature, off the beaten tracks monuments and villages.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but he doesnt

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Firstly, a car is stupid because fuel is too expensive right now. Europe has good public transport system so take advantage of it, look into planes to save you time.
    Secondly, you won't see almost anything if you just spend 1-2 days in each city.
    I'd recommend to spend 3 days in each capital (London, Paris, Berlin, Rome and Madrid). You could swap Berlin for Munich since that's more culturally interesting and skip Barcelona since it's overrated.
    In your next trip to Europe, you can just visit other cities like Lisbon, Seville, Venice, Amsterdam, etc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I should add one more thing: crossing France is expensive because of the tolls. To cross from North to South you will spend around €100, that's already 5% of your budget gone just on tolls

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's way too much driving for 2 weeks. And just FYI, driving into an Italy is a nightmare. Rome is the worst driving Ive seen in the Western Hemisphere. You'll be spending $60+/day just to park in Italy. You can't even drive into Venice.

    I'd recommend completely rethinking your trip. Shoot for 1 or 2 countries to significantly cut down on your driving. 2 weeks is barely enough time to properly do Italy. For a 2 week trip, you should do something more like this. Spend 2 days in each location. Take the train.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and if you were driving in north + central italy you should go to the alps/lakes and the central hill towns

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gas for 4000 miles is about 800€, car rental 50€/day, that's already 1500€ for travel only.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hijacking this a little, any advice for me? I am going to Europe for the first time in December for about a month. No plans, but free lodging in Geneva and Gothenburg and Madrid with friends. What's the general advice for someone who doesn't give a fuck about big cities/most tourist sites? I'd much rather just see a tiny village in Avignon area vs. the Eiffel tower, for example. Is a car necessary for this type of travel?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Some villages have public transport but you’ll miss out a lot of the interesting things around said villages, since villages don’t have everything in one place.
      And some villages are downright inaccessible without a car.

      Cities don’t need cars, everything else (nature and smaller villages) do require it. Don’t get memed into thinking public transport is a miracle. It’s practical, it takes you to places but it has its own limits.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Smallish towns, small enough to walk around the outside of, can have local train stations. In southern France, for example, Carcassonne and Foix were easy to get to by train. Those aren't villages, but they aren't really cities either.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, most small towns have a station. Villages, no. Hence why it really depends on how long and how far do you want to go. I usually always recommend car because all my trips usually just focus on one area of a country, and there’s nothing better than stopping anywhere you want, even in the middle of nowhere. Also I do a lot of outdoors stuff so cars are a must.
          But again, public transports are more than enough if you only do cities and some smallish towns like you describe.

          Good fucking luck going to Mercantour or exploring Camargue without a car.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a 5-6 week trip. You're not even going to have time to get out of the car before you head to the next stop.

    4000 miles/14 days is 285 miles per day. That's 5 hours of driving per day for the entire trip.

    Here how that will go, You'll wake up at 10am. Get to the parking garage at 11. Drive 5 hours. It'll be 4 pm. You'll park and get to your hotel at 5. You'll eat dinner. Walk around for 30 minutes and it'll be dark out. The you'll do it again 13 days in a row.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he just did. if you want your holiday to be mostly driving and not seeing anything this plan is fine. choose less destinations and stay longer at places.

        Also gasoline is expensive, expect to pay 2 euros per liter, which would be 8 dollars a gallon. someplaces might be cheaper, most will be more, especially along the highways.
        if we take a car doing 26mpg this trip would cost you 151 gallons of fuel (at 26mpg) and cost you 1200 euro/dollar alone.
        that leaves 800 for 2 weeks of accomodation, renting a car, tourist attractions, food, drinks and tolls. your plan wont work

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Explain

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where the hell do you live that the sun goes down at 5:30 in the summer?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your sense of timing is completely off, You're going to have a bad time. You can't get to your hotel at 5 and be finished with dinner by 530. It doesn't work like that. In Rome during the summer, you either have a reservation or you eat at a shitty restaurant or you'll be standing in a line for an hour to get seated. Ive never made it in and out of restaurant in less than an hour for dinner in Europe. When are you going to have time to make reservations? You won't even be in your hotel until 5 every day. It'll be 830 when you start exploring and the sun will be going down.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >europe 2 weeks
    >goes to the most globalized and americanised places
    Kidding, kidding. Looks good friend, go for it.
    >I hope gas isn't too bad over there.
    Uh oh

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >1 day in Paris

    lol. lmao even.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so you enjoy the city for 24hours, if you liked it, can visit again properly later in lifee

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are going to waste half your days in transportation. For 10 days i would do a single country and even then that is short.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but I don't have many days of vacation from my job. I must make the most of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I must make the most of it.
        sure but i think people are interpreting this as you wasting several hours travelling. and it is not like you are doing scenic drives/trains but to make the time worthwhile you are on the motorway always.

        estimated 67 hours with 9 location changes, so 7.5 hours between destination on average without counting pitstops or detours. driving if you are staying in these famous cities can be a hassle to navigate or find your hotel/parking which is unavoidable but a few of the cities you might have to waste time sorting that part out also.

        you could do a tighter road trip if you want and still see many worthwhile places

        the most famous cities are nice - but towns, villages, palaces/castles outside of cities, national parks(or equivalents) are all part of europe that you'd just be driving by

        if you must visit the most famous cities would say cut it down to a few - spend some days in a city and if you run out of things to do then day trip somewhere about 1hour train away.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >7.5 hours of driving a day
          that's less than I work a day. Sounds not bad.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This was my first thought too and many anons have the same idea too I see. Spending 1 or 2 days per major city is ridiculous, you need at least 3-4 to even begin to get a feel for the local culture.

      Either skip France or skip Spain.
      > realize that he's American and he's visiting London too and not just living there
      See the 18th century British Grand Tours took many months and even they didn't visit London, they only started out from there

      > $2000 budget
      90% of that will be the price of car rental + 2 weeks of gas, if you're lucky. So enjoy being starving & homeless?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone already said plenty but the gist is you got too much fucking cities man, your plan only works if you lengthen the vacation by 3x or smth

    With your current plan, you might aswell just drive through the cities and sleep at a motel

    Don't disregard the countryside, most major european cities bar venice/rome/barcelona/prague/vienna are SHIT and often look the same
    enjoy the countryside so you actually get to experience the culture

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too much. Simple as. Fly into Munich and use 9-euro to travel on any public transport—city or regional. Skip London. It sucks.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    italy first

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    285 miles per day for 14 days. For a rental car that gets 30 miles to the gallon, that's $700 for gas. You'll also have to pay for parking in most cities. In Italy that'll be $30/night. A lot of the highways are going to collect tolls, so I figure $20/per day for tolls. So after gas, parking and tolls, you'll have about $300 left over for your whole trip. That's a whopping $20 per day for food and attractions. In the 2 hours of time you have in each city, you'll have to decide whether or not to eat or go to a museum.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thats way too much for 14 days. Honestly stick to two countries or else you're gonna be miserable after all that driving.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That’s literally 3 entire days of travel, 21% of your trip. Skip Paris. Skip London. Probably stick to the Mediterranean based countries imo. Maybe spend like 3-4 days in 3 or 4 places instead? You don’t have to see every country in one short trip, there will be more opportunities 🙂

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's several flaws on your idea, here's some
    I'm going to suppose that your rental budget is besides your $2000 budget, if not then you're screwed, also remember to add 10-30 extra bucks per day by insurance, you could use your credit card insurance (If you have it), but normally it only covers the car and yourself, so i don't recomend it
    Time, there's no way that the entire driving time is only 67 hours, consider border time, traffic, maybe a random check, eating, and such, so add about 15-30 extra hours of driving
    Also 1-2 days per city is not enough imo, but doable
    Like everyone else said, skip London and France, those are shitholes anyways, also consider taking the bus instead, it's way cheaper and you're not the one driving, so you can use that time to rest

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