ITT place's you thought would just be overrated tourist attractions, but exceeded you expectations. I'll start
>Central park
Exceeded expectations thread
ITT place's you thought would just be overrated tourist attractions, but exceeded you expectations. I'll start
>Central park
Himeji Samurai Castle.
Venice
I knew beforehand that the great majority of the population of Venice actually lived on 'Terrafirma' so I expected the historical city-on-the-lagoon to be essentially vestigial, a few blocks, and not a lively, inhabited place. But I was surprised, yeah there were tons of tourists, and a bunch of Blacks selling cheap Chinese trinkets by the tourist boat dock. Nonetheless, a cool place. There was a bar selling a glass of the house wine for 1 euro a pop which I was rather shocked by.
>There was a bar selling a glass of the house wine for 1 euro a pop which I was rather shocked by.
If you get on the Trenitalia lines anywhere in the surrounding countryside, all you see are prosecco fields. Some of it is no doubt on the expensive side but a lot of it is for mass consumption.
I fell in love with Italy. And Italian pussy. If I found just one little woman there willing to share her life with me, I could slave away for the rest of my life with zero complaints.
>And Italian pussy
Too many bad bitches named Chiara man
>Florence
was young when i went a knew nothing of it
one of the best places ive ever been too, whole city is absolutely stunning
>Milan
this one i knew a bit about and everyone kept say how shit it was
had the chance to go there for a day so though why not?
absolutely magnanimous city and has a lot to do, seems fantastic for an extended weekend where you go up to lake como as well, but i didnt have time for that unfortunately
in shot, italy is fantastic, like said
Milan is probably the best place to live in Italy. Plenty of things to do, good mix of weather and great food. Everything from south is there anyways since they've been immigrating since 1950's. From Milan to Val Grande for example you only need a 2 hour train. Other locations in Alps are equally close. Great lakes are similar distance from there. You're not far off from some of the most beautiful cities in the north too. It's easy to visit France, Switzerland, Germany, Austria and Slovenia and also Croatia. It's full of young people as there's lots of unis there.
Downsides is it can be quite damp in winter and during summer it's way too hot. Plus the rents are quite high. Some areas around train stations look like shit because of illegals, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was in 2015.
Venice is kino
I was also very pleasantly surprised by Venice; only went because it happened to be the cheapest Italian airport for us to fly to ahead of a two-month tour of other parts of Italy, and was bracing for the worst, but I was blown away by the place. Even in the worst tourist ghetto bits there are locals and authentic stuff just a few alleys away, the history is fascinating and significant, and the setting is uniquely beautiful. Would go again without hesitation.
Rome for sure
Rome was a huge let down for me. It’s just flooded with scamming Africans
I'm not the person you're replying to.
I went this summer and I only really noticed them near Pantheon selling shawls and around Colosseum. Most of the other sights are fairly free of them. In random streets you won't be hassled. T b h I still don't get how do you retards get hassled by them, you must either look completely harmless or like an utter normie idiot, i.e. a clueless tourist. My only advice for the big tourist attractions is to either visit off season or go very early or very late in the day. In Venice I got St. Mark's square pretty much empty except for a few carabinieri, people setting up shop and pigeons. Maybe it's because I had lived in Italy for a year (near Milan), maybe because I really hate over saturated tourist shit, but I really didn't give much of a fuck about Colosseo or Pantheon. My favourite was that historical museum in whatever villa it is, near Colosseo, and the Etruscan museum which is bit off center. Food was a let down compared to Milan, IMHO there's too many touristic places that are low quality in Rome, Milan on average easily has better food because it's less of a tourist meme.
I don't get how you retards are willing to go places where they are present
I don't get why retards pretend they are everywhere when they are present at one or two major tourist attractions, which would be unbearable anyways because of endless groups of Chinese tourists and normies taking 50 pictures of the same thing. Retards on this board don't even know how to travel and just go for theme park experience and wonder why it's shit.
Says the guy who goes to tourist traps full of blacks and chinaman
I mostly avoid them. To say Rome is nothing but scammers is beyond retarded. If that was your experience you should apply for retardbux in your country and drop out of 9 to 5 ASAP.
Tokyo - always thought it was a meme for losers which I guess it still is, but it was also epic
looks like southeast asian megamall hell
As a German I have to go with Berlin.
Berlin is the least impressive of all the big EU capitals.
As an American I was honestly impressed by Berlin relative to my expectations. Kind of old shitty infrastructure but otherwise interesting history and good food.
Having been to all of them, you’re very wrong. It’s Madrid, trust me.
that's the most retarded opinion I've read in this thread - Madrid isn't even in the same league as Berlin, jeez
Berlin is an ugly shithole where it gets dark at 4pm in winter and where half the city is made up of ugly commieblocks, people are either rude as fuck (locals) or entitled hipsters that don't even know German in their shitty hipster bars.
Madrid is one of the nicest cities in Europe, sunny, beautiful architecture, beautiful nature around, lively, gorgeous women, and hella cheap - it's a city of 3 million+ and yet much less touristy than Barcelona, meaning you'll always find a Spanish neighborhood where a beer is 2.50 and they give you free tapas with it....
>beer is 2.5
anon, just how much are you overpaying LOL
Is the music scene all it's cracked up to be?
I don't really care about huge music festivals, but if there's a lively live music scene with lots of small shows that sounds fun
>Its always incredible how locals change when you tell them youre Irish, and not English
I had a few weird little interactions along a similar line.
"Ich komme aus Amerika"
(Frown)
"you know, Neu England"
(quizzical look)
"Irish-Amerikaner"
"OOOhhh sehr kühl :)"
>Is the music scene all it's cracked up to be?
It'd definitely be worth checking out. I hope you are into electronic music and drugs
>"Ich komme aus Amerika"
>(Frown)
In Germany it is normal to dislike america, even if you are not a leftist. Typical criticism is like muh health-care, muh guns and muh unregulated capitalism. Just shows how ignorant they are.
Yes I know these are retarded arguments, but what would your arguments be to disprove those?
Munich
So clean, everyone was really nice. The Olympic Park was really cool, and the BMW Velt / Museum was spectacular (if you like cars)
Its always incredible how locals change when you tell them youre Irish, and not English
Utah's National Parks
Italy in general. I always was reluctant to go there because it just seemed like a meme and I have always fucking hated every Italian I met traveling or working. Got a cheap flight from Montana to Rome and out of Milan for 580$ so went for two weeks. Rome around the train station is basically little Africa and really dodgy, and Naples is one of the worst places I've ever been. But the rest of the country (in particular the small hilltop towns) is peak comfy, and every Italian I met wasn't a total asshole like I had expected. I guess all the shitty Italians are the ones who go abroad.
Paris because I had horrible expectations.
Lyon because I didn't expect it to be so satured with good architecture.
First time I went to Nice in 2018 I was shocked by how many immigrants there are, but when I came back last year it was like 180 and for some reason I was shocked by how many French I could see. I'm not even 4chantard, it was just a big contrast to me from a small village in an obscure corner of the world.
Italy is insanely dense with so much beauty, easily the most beautiful country on the planet.
>And Italian pussy.
Their women are pretty hard t b h. Most are locked down into social circles. My ex is from there. She's good looking, very well educated in a classic lyceum (learnt Latin and Greek in HS when most retards are struggling with elementary algebra) and then got a degree from Bocconi. When I managed to seduce her at 21, I was her first, even though she admitted she went to many dates. Some were just for food. Felt a little bad considering many tried, wined and dined, but I simply had what it took to push it further. If there was a woman worth marrying, it is her. I'm still in good contact with her.
> I'm still in good contact with her.
You are subconsciously telling us to tell you to tell her you want to try again, seriously this time.
Do it, or don't, I'm not in charge of your life
I miss the sex and being together sometimes, but there's way too many good thing about being alone. Never had a relationship where I didn't crave being alone or even sleeping with other girls.
Good, she'd be wasted on you anyways.
>Italy is insanely dense with so much beauty, easily the most beautiful country on the planet.
I agree. Italy has anything you could possibly want out of travel.
>Their women are pretty hard t b h
Yeah, that was my experience as well. Firstly not a lot of Italian sluts speak much English. I did hook up with a stone cold fox in Sicily though whose English was fluent, so it can be done.
Naples is the shittiest city in the world, the rest of Italy is totally different from Naples also the population
Lived in Vancouver for nearly 2 years now, and Stanley Park definitely lived up to the hype.
wtf you talking about? Its just a normal oversized park....
Vancouver if a fucking shithole. Ever leave your studio apartment if Fag End?
Taj Mahal was actually quite impressive. It's even a bigger contrast when you compare it to Agra where it's at, which is a total shithole.
Paris.
We went just under 2 months ago. I thought it was gonna be a shithole because that's what sighsee and everyone says.
Turns out it's pretty great. All the buildings have this historic grandeur to them. The Louvre is fucking awesome and so is the catacombs. Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame and Arc De Triomphe are "can't believe your eyes" moments. They're just massive feats of human engineering and the human race as a whole.
Only time I ever saw Nigerians selling shit was at the Eiffel Tower and even then there wasn't many of them. Paris isn't even that dirty when compared to places like Athens and Brussels.
Even had a couple friendly experiences with Parisians. One of them literally screamed people out the train so we could get off at our stop before the doors closed lmao.
I think people hate Paris because of Paris syndrome. They expect a "city of love" and when it doesn't live up to the hype they get bitter about it.
Pic related is a photo I took.
fucking hell I always forget sighsee turns phone photos.
Also Athens was another city that I loved. One of my favourite places I've ever been.
Also, sighsee doesn't flip images, it deletes metadata known as EXIF. When you flip it in photo viewer, it puts this information in .exif which gets stripped then. To do this properly, flip the image correctly, then open it through mspaint, paint ONE pixel in whatever color where you won't notice and then save the new photo. It will work now.
Thanks fren. The few times I remember, I screenshot the originals and it works (I think).
>I think people hate Paris because of Paris syndrome. They expect a "city of love" and when it doesn't live up to the hype they get bitter about it.
It's anger and disgust and shock at what these great societies are doing to themselves, and what that says about the state of the world in general.
If you're some overworked salaryman and you come to this place you know as a utopia from books and movies, where things are different and better than where you come from, but it was actually a shithole in advanced stages of decline, wouldn't that freak you out? The realization that there is no utopia? That we are actually stuck in the Kali Yuga, and can expect nothing other than chaos and rot?
The Japanese have been accustomed to seeing the West as special and different ever since their modernizing efforts in the 19th century, the idea that our great cultures are in a state of deep decay must be deeply worrying to them. They've got their own existential problems facing their society. They have enough reasons to be full of ennui. And now this shit.
Paris is far from just "chaos and rot". Beautiful women, some of the best museums in the world, great food and lots of cultural activity even in this day. City center which most tourists visit is too expensive for some poor immigrants or illegals. Most of the immigrants you see are just people working minimum wage, hardly the types you'd have to be worried about. It's different in some shithole neighborhood, no doubt, but most people are overblown about this. It's also worth noting that Paris =/= France. I'm very tired of people brainlessly shitting on Paris, it almost seems that they do not care about anything good in it and travel purely to see which city has least immigrants, as if major cities haven't always been the very best and the very worst in any given countries. Maybe they are not heterosexual? Surely at least seeing so many hot women in one place could distract them for a moment.
You don't get it, it's not worthwhile navigating thru a gauntlet of homeless encampment, druggies, swindlers, gangs of jihadis, romas, Somalis, Moroccans and 20 other ethnicities etc to see something a building or a cute female. If you happen to see any French they are bound to be rude and cheat you. That's not a pleasant experience. I would rather sit in a hotel room at the airport or go to albania where people leave you alone and there are zero criminals of colour . Sorry that hurts redddits feelings but they imported millions of criminals to replace the French population and now Paris isnt Paris anymore
>there are zero criminals of colour
I have news for you about Albania.
Nope you are just another smug westerner who thinks Albanians are bad because your government who you elected imports all the Albanian criminals. Thank you
That's usually the case, but not when it comes to Albanians. They're pain in the ass for everyone right in their own region too. The whole Balkans hate Albania.
Nah, I've been to Albania amd it's probably pne of my favourite countries on Earth, I absolutely love it and its people, easily some of the most warm and hospitable. It'sstill full of criminals though, but again that's hardly surprising considering how much communism/the fall of communism fucked them so hard. It's never really in a way that would ever effect you as a visitor other than making it really easy to buy cocaine though. Also probablty the least white white people on Earth though after like, Armenians too.
kek you have never EVER been to Paris if you think it's like that.
It was more than obvious to anyone reading his post. It has the edgy teenager virgin vibe.
Paris is a great filter for retards who don't know how to actually travel.
I don't know how to actually travel.
Best tips?
No, I see even the glowing reviews are like, well sure Paris is filthy rundown city full of violent diversity but if you run these gauntlets you can see a building or a cute girl. I can see girls or interesting buildings anywhere . I hate to say it but Drumph was right
I experienced none of this. 0 violence, nothing looked run down for except metro (which I liked because it's actually a good metro system despite the old trains). I've seen worse scenes in front of Milan main train station and Milan has nowhere near the levels of Paris or France in general.
Why are retards obsessed with making up shit just to prove a point?
The FRENCH betrayed us, they were against the war in Iraq
Why do you lie? Paris is a violent shithole filled with coloureds
Paris is beautiful midwits. Stayed in Montmartre and had a great time last I went
Montmartre is beautiful and so are many other areas of Paris. At the same time there are areas in Paris where you feel like you're in some subsaharan shithole. One doesn't exclude another, midwit.
See
. Are you going to some outskirts with nothing but the Parisian equivalent of social housing commie blocks? Jesus Christ. The only place where I saw any touts was in Sacre Coeur, but they're easily avoided and I'm not a manlet, so being mugged is enough for 99% of people to not even try. Yes they got immigrants, but I mostly saw them working as cashiers, waiters, binmen and security. Paris city center is too expensive for native Parisians and French, nevermind any random immigrant with no education or skills.
I must have hallucinated by four day trip where I walked everywhere and used metro maybe three times to get into city, but always came back to my hotel like 1 1/2 hours away from the city on foot.
>n-nooo paris must be a heccin shitholerino just like my pol fantasies
I'm not even saying there's no problems in Paris, but the worst of it is surely in ghetto tier outskirts where no tourist ever goes, not the city center. If you got bothered or scammed by a tout, you got shit for brains and it doesn't matter where you will go.
Paris surely is the great filter, it takes a high iq to appreciate it
Paris is a shithole.
I was there last December and I experienced none of that. I walked around all the time at night too.
>there are zero criminals of color in Albania
>Paris has not literally always been the epicenter of violent urban criminals
I couldn't agree more. Locals are a little cold, but that is expected in a big city. I similarly went in December, a week or so before Christmas, and I was also blown away by how beautiful Paris is. I think Paris Syndrome is just dumb tourists doing dumb tourist shit (like visiting at peak saturation for like 5 famous things in Paris) and having a bad time. If I was a millionaire I'd own a nice little apartment in city center without doubt just to visit at least once a year.
>millionaire I'd own a nice little apartment in city center without doubt just to visit at least once a year
GLWT
I will get there, Anon.
I was saying you'd need to be more than a millionaire. Good luck anyway though. 🙂
A flat is around one million, no? So yes sadly. I might cope with a flat in Lyon or Toulouse instead.
But you want it as a holiday home.
Paris is fucking great. Went this summer. Easiest way to spot a memespouting 4chanincel is to hear them talk about Paris.
I love black girls and Paris is chock full of them but you don't have to be a racist/poltard to hate Paris. It's a complete shithole. .
Probably to live there, but visiting was fucking nice.
>Shanghai
thought it would be a poluted overcrowded boring city à la any european capital, turns out it's a fun city,metro gets you everywhere and you can have everything from historic places to futuristic rooftop nightclubs within a range of 15 minutes, and if you are a foreigner and meet other foreigners a lot of things will be free
Kentucky
Easily the most underrated state I've been to
Why? Never even considered visiting.
I have family in Kentucky and it is actually interesting. The west side of the state is bourbon and bluegrass country. Lexington is a fun city especially during the horse races. Mammoth Cave is the biggest cave in the continental US. And the east side of the state is pure Hillbilly Hell to a degree that is anthropologically fascinating. You can't beat the Appalachians either
sshhhhs shut the fuck up and delete this and never speak again
Man this thread is hard selling me on italy lol, also anyone saying paris isn't that bad sounds like bullshit because even normies irl tell me paris has gone to the dogs and they're as far from poltards as you can get.
>Kentucky
Totally with you on this. Idk what I expected like Arkansas tier or something but I was blown away with how nice and peaceful the state was. Plus all the bourbon you could drink. If I had kin up there I'd move there in a heartbeat.
>Destin Florida
it was nicer like a decade ago. that whole 30A area has gotten way overdeveloped IMO, traffic and lines at restaurants is something I can experience at home if i wanted to. those beaches though will always keep me coming back.
>New York City
i can't wait to one day experience an authentic NEW YORK CITY bodega that you can only find in NEW YORK CITY
Louisville Kentucky has a lot of fun shit to do, but the city has gotten really dangerous. The city hasn't recovered from the riots caused by a police shooting in 2020. The crime used to be centered on a small area downtown, but it's really spilled over into the suburbs. People get carjacked and shot at the grocery stores in the suburbs in Louisville. Old white lady's carry guns in their purses in Louisville.
For anyone interested in Kentucky and who likes to hike, I'd go do the Red River Gorge, Mammoth Cave and Cumberland Falls. You can get a good deal on cabins in Kentucky, especially if you split the cost with a group. The Red River Gorge is amazing in the summer. You can rock climb, raft, swim, go caving, hike to waterfalls, camp. The gorge is really only well known among rock climbers and people in Kentucky, but it's one of my favorite hiking areas in the eastern US. Miguel's Pizza in the gorge is my favorite roadside restaurant in the US.
The day I was walking around all the bourbon row stuff downtown Louisville I was struck by how dead it was. Not in like a derelict way just couldn't see anyone else for blocks. It didn't seem all that dangerous but it was the touristy part of downtown and it might've been a sunday morning or something i forgot.
>I'd go do the Red River Gorge, Mammoth Cave and Cumberland Falls.
I'd love to hit some of that next time, I only had time to do some ziplining in the mega cavern which was pretty fun. Also if any christfags are visiting KY soon i'd recommend the ark, especially if you got kids.
Italy really is worth it.
Went there for my honeymoon begrudgingly because it was my wife’s dream. (I wanted to go to Ireland). Spent a time in Milan, Florence, and Positano on the Amalfi coast and it was the most incredible experience of my life. The food is the best you will ever have and that is a promise. The whole layed back lifestyle is perfect for holiday and everyone was incredibly nice to us (even though we’re American). The Mediterranean is beautiful and there’s something for everyone whether it be history, art, culture food, views. You name it.
Highly highly highly recommend.
Singapore, clean, tidy with a great urban infrastructure meshing well with surrounding greenery
Prague excellent heritage and assortment of sights
I will go with Italy too.
I'm not even american, so it's not like i've never seen old cathedrals or castles, but when i first saw the Patheon in Rome, i was like holy shit, an entire different civilzation was there thousands of years ago, and it's looking at me right now. It's like an UFO in the middle of a city.
Sapporo and Hokkaido in general, lovely place.
Biggest one for me was probably Amsterdam. It’s so much more than the red light district and the coffee shops (though they are entertaining). Cycling round the canals is so much fun and it’s such a beautiful city. Kickass music scene as well and I’ve never met a Dutchman I didn’t like.
Destin Florida. You hear about all the crime in Florda, so you expect the worst. But holy shit is Destin beautiful. Those white sand beaches are some of the most gorgeous stretches of beach Ive ever seen. There aren't a lot of permanent residents between destin and Miramar beach, so if you go in september, you get the place to yourself. And black people? Nope. Too expensive in Destin. Hence the lack of crime. The food is also pretty fucking amazing. They have great fishing in the gulf and a lot of seafood places in the area are incredible.
For a nice beach, it's one of my favorites in the US. If you're looking for culture though, Destin is definitely not the place.
I thought that Athens would be a shit hole but parts of the city had real charm. Would gladly hang out for a few days before heading to the islands in future.
Athens is a cool city if you got a bit of common sense and look up which parts to avoid. I stayed there for a month, really, really good food. Surprisingly expensive though. Spain has arguably higher standard of living, food variety, infrastructure and what not, but everything is way cheaper there for comparison. A beer in Spain in some random bar can be as low as 0.8€, but in Athens I never saw anything for less than 2.5€, and their beer sucks too. Great wine though. In which area did you stay? I was close to that tall mountain, the "anarchist" neighborhood (just bullshit I read online).
Thanks for the Spain advice. I’ve only been to San Sébastien for a short stay in the past 5 years. I couldn’t believe how expensive the islands became in the past two years. We stayed near Plaka and then explored a few other neighborhoods. This past summer 50% of the tourists were American which was wild af.
Shibuya or Tokyo in general. I've always thought that Japan tourist areas were just a meme from all the videos and movies I've watched. But when I visited with my family and had a chance to explore with my brother more intimately on foot- I was amazed. Every where you look was something extraordinary. Even the people dressed appropriately and made more "Western" countries pale in comparison. The food quality was out of this world too.
New York City is the greatest and “truest” city in the world. I’ve been to most major metro areas and nothing holds a candle to it.
It was better in the early aughts but still a great time. I’d love to live there. One of the only places I’ve ever been that I feel truly at home.
New Yorkers are the most miserable shits in the US. 8 hours is about my limit for staying in NYC. Leaving the city feels like leaving a prison.
Fushimi Inari in Kyoto
The key is to go early morning before the crowds then it's fucking magical
Lanzarote, Canary Islands, Spain. I got random cheap flights with missus and thought it was going to be filled with British boomers and madlads and be a tacky shithole. It is actually a beautiful place.
Canaries are really beautiful, especially if you can rent a car and explore inland. Some roads can be very narrow and intimidating, so ideally be confident in yourself or have experience with mountain roads.