Understandable, that place is supposed to have a nice climate, low prices (but this may have changed with all the Russians moving there), good food and stunning scenery. Their alphabet is indecipherable though.
ruined by overtourism. ruined by vatniks even further. go to armenia instead. it's the same but better. just avoid the active warzones.
Most of them aren't tourists, but refugees. 250,000 Russian men crossed the border into Georgia within the last 6 months. Iran has visa free travel so men flee Iran go to Georgia. India has some special deal with Georgia too where Jeeters are buying up property there.
White South African farmers were welcomed there as well. One of the only countries willing to save them from genocide.
Armenian diasporanagger here, Vatniks jacked up the prices in Yerevan by a fuck ton. they are slightly going down now since things have cooled but tblisi and yerevan are as expensive as European capitals now. Doesnt help that most people live with families so the burden isn''t that hard on them. Armenians are more chill with russians and there is definitely less vatnaggery in Armenia compared to Georgia. Also gogis fucked themselves by shilling too hard for tourism and visas.
Armenians in Armenia are weird in that in the West Armenians are desperate for Western approval but in Armenia they dont give a fuck really, Georgians really do because they unironically think they can join NATO and EU one day (although plenty of armenians think this as well).
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Most of them aren't tourists, but refugees. 250,000 Russian men crossed the border into Georgia within the last 6 months. Iran has visa free travel so men flee Iran go to Georgia. India has some special deal with Georgia too where Jeeters are buying up property there.
White South African farmers were welcomed there as well. One of the only countries willing to save them from genocide.
Alot of Iranians come to Armenia but its mostly for being able to drink and for the women to take off their hijabs, I have never heard of large groups staying long term. There are jeet students and the like in armenia but its nothing noticable at all. Pretty based they are accepting white SAs never knew that, we should do the same.
How much tourism can there even be post coof?
Define overtourism.
I cannot imagine there being something like too many tourists in the former USSR:
Plenty of digital nomad types and others found out about tblisi. I think Georgia as a whole has more interesting stuff like mountains and the like but virtually they are the same, I say this as an Armenian but Armenia has more a provincial charm to it but both capitals are pretty much the same pros and cons. If you are going for women probably better chances in Georgia
then go. 365 days visa free. just go. stop posting about it on SighSee and go.
the armenian-iranian axis is based.
can't really blame georgians when their country is actively occupied by russians and they view their situation as similar to ukraine but they really overdo it - you'll see more eu flags in georgia than anywhere else in the world.
Don't listen op. Unless you want to spend all day in the Capital for the duration on your stay, it's fucking comfy. Even the Tbilisi isn't bad, and nearly everyone you see is Georgian, or sometimes Russian, but I don't count them as Tourists.
Even though the russofags have caused prices in Georgia to skyrocket, they have caused Armenia to get even more expensive than Georgia. Georgia was already blowing up with tourism and had the development and housing there to begin with. Yerevan didn't. It was costing nearly twice as much to stay in Yerevan as it was Tbilisi.
All of the Russian conscript dodger went to armenia and the scummy Soviet minded landlords jacked up the prices for rent way beyond reason. It’s not an issue for a lot of people because families own homes and most people live with their parents until married but it fucks over tourists. Yerevan and Tbilisi have rents that are as expensive as fucking German cities now it’s insane. Totally not worth going anymore, shame too as they were unique countries with good people.
Did a few mountains in the north near Sno, those were good but you'll need ice axe and crampons. The forests were nice here but near Tblisi less so.
Found a few dogs who guided me part of the way, bring some food if you want a hiking buddy.
Scandinavia is better for hiking
I'm sick of my country and considering moving to Georgia just to vibe there and get that 1% small business tax, but having to stay 6 months per year among hordes of exiled vatnaggers when I could be jumping around SEA doesn't sound great. At least my country is well liked by real Georgians though.
Are there any other places to check out besides Tbilisi, something comfortable and with less vatniks?
I'm in Georgia currently, don't bother.
Tblisi is a shithole. Prices are expensive (inline with the US/UK), people are rude, and food is awful. Visited the national park forest and that was awful. Only good thing I found here was an Armenian store, made most of the money spent here back from the cheap cigs.
Stepantsminsta/Sno has nice mountains, nothing interesting other than the paths.
And more misinformation. The country is fucking cheap! In Tblisi you can find those Handmade mead or cheese pastries EVERYWHERE and they're like £1.20. Restaurants in the most commercial areas aren't even expensive, and transport is cheap too (Unexpected for me) so I don't know where you've been kek.
The only thing you've told the truth about is that the Food isn't the best. But even then, there are a few dishes that very tasty so you always have those. And anyway for American palates not used to good food all of it is good, Americans love Georgian food.
When did you go?
Lockdowns and the Russians have increased all the prices massively. It might be cheap compared to the UK, but portions are much smaller and lower quality for the price.
Public transport is cheap but don't expect anyone to speak the language
I went in October, obviously the prices have increased but if you never knew you'd think the prices were still reasonable, and if you're in small towns and the countryside (where you fucking should be) it's even more reasonable.
Not many people speak English, correct but that's the fun of it. And the people that you'll really need to be able to communicate with will speak enough English.
Don't look at everything with shit smeared Glasses. Get out of the SighSee mindset sometimes buddy.
Even in the countryside prices were expensive, the only place with reasonable prices was an armenian store on the outskirts of Tblisi. >And the people that you'll really need to be able to communicate with will speak enough English
The police in Tblisi barely spoke any English when I was being arrested.
Batumi gets shit on but I think it’s cool, the promenade is definitely beautiful, and you get women from Turkey, Emirates, Iran etc there coming over to let loose. I banged a Turkish girl. Also for coomers, the hotels are massive and face each other. If you get on the 20th floor+, women are retards (or exhibitionists with plausible deniability) and walk around naked at night with thee curtains open and lights on.
Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine (which is everywhere but it seemed the worst here).
Kutaisi is pretty cool. Cheap food and beer, nature, pretty girls.
>Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine
Most of it felt like seeking for approval from westerners. People were massive retards overall, even the turks were smarter
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Ok well I don't know what to tell you. I guess you wanted £1 meals like in Asia. I'll tell you where to palm your next trip.
Well I hope to never have to talk to the Police in any country. What the hell happened? kek
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Wasn't expecting cheap meals, just not the same price as here.
Not really sure about the police, just went up the side of the hill near a road and ended up being dragged to them at the top of it. Spent about half an hour being shouted at.
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IT'S NOT THE SAME PRICE AS HERE.
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> Most of it felt like seeking for approval from westerners. People were massive retards overall, even the turks were smarter
Georgians in general, go on /misc/ to see what I am talking about. They seethe the most about Ukraine and Russia and are the biggest Reddit nation in caucuses and even “Eastern Europe” if you go as far to include them. Their seething over Russia is annoying, even Armenians aren’t as annoying about Turks as they are with Russians. They put up EU flags all over the capital and spread their asscheeks for any appproval by globohomo it’s disgusting
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>Georgians in general, go on /misc/ to see what I am talking about. They seethe the most about Ukraine and Russia and are the biggest Reddit nation in caucuses and even “Eastern Europe” if you go as far to include them. Their seething over Russia is annoying, even Armenians aren’t as annoying about Turks as they are with Russians. They put up EU flags all over the capital and spread their asscheeks for any appproval by globohomo it’s disgusting
why do you expect them to not seethe tho, they have 2 breakaway regions in already small country cause of russia and they have been constantly fucked over by them for last 2 centuries, i think georgia manages to be quite a conservative and good nation judging by the fact that it's forced to ally with west
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They have very good reason to hate Russians, most poltard Americans don't seem to understand you can dislike Russia without being brainwashed by da jooz or whatever retardation
Nah go the lobio bro, it's not so interesting but you can eat 5 every day when you're on the go without hating yourself.
Watch out for moonshine as well, every second family seems to be making their own brandy or wine but because of poverty a lot of these operations are substandard and medical alcohol is often sold in clubs.
I stayed during covid for six months in 2020, 1.2 for pastry sounds insane. Shit was way cheaper then and I was ordering takeout every day delivered to my home with a limited budget
Batumi gets shit on but I think it’s cool, the promenade is definitely beautiful, and you get women from Turkey, Emirates, Iran etc there coming over to let loose. I banged a Turkish girl. Also for coomers, the hotels are massive and face each other. If you get on the 20th floor+, women are retards (or exhibitionists with plausible deniability) and walk around naked at night with thee curtains open and lights on.
Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine (which is everywhere but it seemed the worst here).
Kutaisi is pretty cool. Cheap food and beer, nature, pretty girls.
>Also for coomers, the hotels are massive and face each other. If you get on the 20th floor+, women are retards (or exhibitionists with plausible deniability) and walk around naked at night with thee curtains open and lights on.
Based info. Thanks for looking out for your coomer bros.
What makes Batumi better for women? I saw a lot of beautiful women in Tblisi and elsewhere but not sure how approachable they were so can't speak on them too much.
Batumi is a tourist resort town with lots of foreigners, Russian and Turkish sluts. Tbilisi is just more conservative. Not as much as Yerevan though you can still score with chicks. In armenia the dudes are less cucked and euro minded and will actually chase you with kebab skewers if they see you act like a pua fag
> Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine (which is everywhere but it seemed the worst here).
I like Yerevan more because of this, every gogi is pretentious especially the zoomers. In armenia they are less globohomo minded. In Georgia all the zoomers act like that nfkrz YouTuber and are euro good goys, plus their hate boner for Russia is worse than Armenians for turkey. At least there’s good reasons to seethe about turkey, Gogis just seethe about Russia because of muh west and muh sakashvilli
The poor infrastructure isn't a problem because of how small it is, it's probably still super cheap, the ethnically homogenous locals are hospitable and interested in visitors, the history is rich and there are a ton of things to do.
You can go trekking, skiing, hiking, half the country is an active archrological site, they're conservative in the medieval way of drinking wine by the jug and singing in taverns. Often you will be in the Georgian equivalent of spoons after a big night out and the drunks from the night before will form some kind of chior.
The Russia/ Georgia shit is somthing they get buthurt about not somthing your need to get burhurt about, just don't speak to young people in Russian... unless you're actually Russian. Strange problem eurasians and bloc nationals can have.
They hate gays, it's not uncommon for bone heads to come up to people who look gay and bully them.
Drugs are a total no. There's not much out there, the prices are a total joke, and the mafia is way heavier than you'd expect from a glance. Police are thugs but you'll rarely see them.
It gets cold in many regions, like... snow. But it's very hot in summer so you may out may not want to bring winter gear.
Vegitarians can have a bad time, you can always buy fresh fruit and veg and there's an abundance of tree nuts. This being said Georgians don't look favourably on vegitarians and associate it with homosexuality. As a nation they don't know what a "hippie" is.
You'll get used to the informal Georgian bus network pretty quickly, it looks sketchy but that's just what it is.
And because you can fly into Georgia for like $50 I'm surprised more people aren't hoping in and out through larnaca, Greece and the like.
>You'll get used to the informal Georgian bus network pretty quickly, it looks sketchy but that's just what it is.
Is it any different to marshrutkas prevalent in the former Soviet Union?
no, it's the same mashrutkas as everywhere else in ex-USSR
Georgian mashrutkas are probably the worst I've ever been on, lots of drivers who play loud Soviet pop at full volume and rip off the foreign travelers for as much as possible
Never had issue with that. Dirt cheap. You pay. You get on. Granted, the experience is something fucking insane. I haven't had soviet pop at full volume, but I had an old driver, driving in heat (meaning, during the summer) he hasn't sipped, not even a slight of water and was driving like absolute lunatic. We were on a highway and he often just took over other cars even in curves and often even decided to drive in the cars opposite direction and just honk to let others know. That was crazy!
Some drivers are like that, others more relaxed. It's pretty chill ohterwise.
>Georgians don't look favourably on vegitarians and associate it with homosexuality
They're not too wrong, as veganism is generally associated with SJW shit
kek when I was a kid and used to visit armenia with my family everyone would think I was a woman or gay because I had somewhat long hair and wore shorts
>ethnically homogenous locals
If you dig a little deeper, you'll find lots of regional identities, and I'm not just talking about the obvious breakaway provinces, Pankisi Chechens or immigrants from the Caucasus, Svans and Adjarians. There's Khevsurs, Mingrelians, Imerelians, Tushetians, Javakhetians... It's a surprisingly tribal nation still, with for example half of Javakheti being Armenian by ethnicity - distinct from either Georgians or Javakhetians.
>Vegitarians can have a bad time. [...] This being said Georgians don't look favourably on vegitarians and associate it with homosexuality. As a nation they don't know what a "hippie" is.
It's one of the easiest places to find vegetarian food in my experience, even in the countryside. Never got hassled for it, but I'm tall, muscular, have a sizeable beard and cauliflower ears and am happy to partake in the plentifully provided chacha so not easily associated with homosexuality. Skews my perspective for sure, but I suspect that as long as you don't look or behave gay, you're unlikely to be bothered.
You can get an Airbnb room for 15-25$ a night depending on how close to center you want it to be, pic related for how it would look.
Taxi in the city would cost roughly 1$-4$ per trip, so if you will travel around a lot on taxi it would average out to 9$ a day if you take like 3 taxi trips around.
Bus and Metro is fully negligible price, costs 30 cents, basically free.
Equivalent of generic full meal costs roughly 7$, so like imagine a big burger+fries+cola at a place like Pipes burger at Fabrica, these prices are roughly universal across different types of food and if you go to traditional food places especially less popular ones it will be cheaper, one khinkali dumpling costs 50 cents on average so you can eat 10 gigantic dumplings (one dumpling is roughly size of 3 chinese soup dumplings) for 5 $ and not want to eat for the rest of the day. A fancier restaurant like Veriko or Salobiebia might cost you like 28$ per person, that includes a glass of wine a dish like Gurulian Kababs fused with some Chinese style sweet sour tastes and an apetizer like roasted vegetables with sourcream and walnut sauce and georgian bread.
Staying in Tbilisi for a week living costs and food all out included should not cost you more than 300$-500$ for 7 days depending on how much you go all out, but it is also stupid to just be in Tbilisi. You need to go out a bit, rent a car and drive to Kazbegi, drive to Sighnagi, Dashbashi canyon, at least go to some of the normie locations
I'm cycling through Georgia in a month or so. Is Tbilisi worth staying more than a day? I was thinking staying in a hotel in the mountains, then just go through Tbilisi, maybe one night. Is there are reason to stay more? I live next to Russia so I don't wanna see any russkies
Its fine, but depends on the way you travel. I for example couldn't stay in a city just for a day because it takes me a while to get used to new culture, new system and all.
Gogis are annoying wannabe butthurt belters who have a superiority complex over other churkas. Their zoomers desperately want to be part of the EU/NATO and their russian hate boner is pretty cringe. I don't have anything against them irl but their flags on /misc/ are seriously some of the most annoying posters. The fact that such a small country has that amount of posters on an autistic image board while say Armenia doesn't is very telling
Hate to break it to you but if you travel enough you'll discover that "I fucked your mom" and it's variations seems to be the most common insult in the world
Poop and piss seems to be Germanic
Implying that your mother or your relatives are cheap whores is southern and eastern European
Calling someone a vagina seems to be popular with slavs
Fucking your mother ruthlessly is a middle eastern thing
But I think all insults work universally just that they are emphasized differently
Like being called a dick is insulting, but being called a хyйлo is more insulting
Also finished traveling around western Georgia
It's a lush paradise and people know Russian better there than in center, would recommend, imereti, megrelia, guria, adjara all good, and food is also amazing more Hispanices and strange mixes of tastes like mint with cheese or these really thin papers of dough fried in clarified butter and then dipped in different sauces, shit is cash
Poop and piss seems to be Germanic
Implying that your mother or your relatives are cheap whores is southern and eastern European
Calling someone a vagina seems to be popular with slavs
Fucking your mother ruthlessly is a middle eastern thing
But I think all insults work universally just that they are emphasized differently
Like being called a dick is insulting, but being called a хyйлo is more insulting
Don't forget insulting your sexuality/masculinity! Puto
Georgia is top-tier - coomers are out of luck but everything else is fucking lit, definitely going to make it a regular destination when i get reasonably well-off
Very difficult to pin point a single location since that's not uncommon.
If you want to go specifically to region most famous for wine go to Kakheti.
Best solution always is to find friends locally and have fun in some village with relatives for most authentic experience.
Understandable, that place is supposed to have a nice climate, low prices (but this may have changed with all the Russians moving there), good food and stunning scenery. Their alphabet is indecipherable though.
ruined by overtourism. ruined by vatniks even further. go to armenia instead. it's the same but better. just avoid the active warzones.
How much tourism can there even be post coof?
Define overtourism.
I cannot imagine there being something like too many tourists in the former USSR:
It's even worse, the tourists are Russians.
Most of them aren't tourists, but refugees. 250,000 Russian men crossed the border into Georgia within the last 6 months. Iran has visa free travel so men flee Iran go to Georgia. India has some special deal with Georgia too where Jeeters are buying up property there.
White South African farmers were welcomed there as well. One of the only countries willing to save them from genocide.
Armenian diasporanagger here, Vatniks jacked up the prices in Yerevan by a fuck ton. they are slightly going down now since things have cooled but tblisi and yerevan are as expensive as European capitals now. Doesnt help that most people live with families so the burden isn''t that hard on them. Armenians are more chill with russians and there is definitely less vatnaggery in Armenia compared to Georgia. Also gogis fucked themselves by shilling too hard for tourism and visas.
Armenians in Armenia are weird in that in the West Armenians are desperate for Western approval but in Armenia they dont give a fuck really, Georgians really do because they unironically think they can join NATO and EU one day (although plenty of armenians think this as well).
Alot of Iranians come to Armenia but its mostly for being able to drink and for the women to take off their hijabs, I have never heard of large groups staying long term. There are jeet students and the like in armenia but its nothing noticable at all. Pretty based they are accepting white SAs never knew that, we should do the same.
Plenty of digital nomad types and others found out about tblisi. I think Georgia as a whole has more interesting stuff like mountains and the like but virtually they are the same, I say this as an Armenian but Armenia has more a provincial charm to it but both capitals are pretty much the same pros and cons. If you are going for women probably better chances in Georgia
then go. 365 days visa free. just go. stop posting about it on SighSee and go.
the armenian-iranian axis is based.
can't really blame georgians when their country is actively occupied by russians and they view their situation as similar to ukraine but they really overdo it - you'll see more eu flags in georgia than anywhere else in the world.
Don't listen op. Unless you want to spend all day in the Capital for the duration on your stay, it's fucking comfy. Even the Tbilisi isn't bad, and nearly everyone you see is Georgian, or sometimes Russian, but I don't count them as Tourists.
You're a homosexual. Every fourth person in Tbilisi was Russian when I was there three months ago.
Was that a problem somehow, asides from higher prices due to higher demand?
It's not the same as a fucking English or American tourist is it!
Is it! Tell me how many of those you saw.
Even though the russofags have caused prices in Georgia to skyrocket, they have caused Armenia to get even more expensive than Georgia. Georgia was already blowing up with tourism and had the development and housing there to begin with. Yerevan didn't. It was costing nearly twice as much to stay in Yerevan as it was Tbilisi.
All of the Russian conscript dodger went to armenia and the scummy Soviet minded landlords jacked up the prices for rent way beyond reason. It’s not an issue for a lot of people because families own homes and most people live with their parents until married but it fucks over tourists. Yerevan and Tbilisi have rents that are as expensive as fucking German cities now it’s insane. Totally not worth going anymore, shame too as they were unique countries with good people.
Lol. Armenia is even worse in this regard. And after the 2020 war, one of the most interesting destinations, Artsakh, has become much harder to visit.
Artsaksh is literally just a pile of rocks with fourth world tier poverty villages
>t. Armenian
Is trekking in Georgia as good as it looks? This country looks like it was literally made for it.
Everything's dead and boring, this whole region is this time of year
Did a few mountains in the north near Sno, those were good but you'll need ice axe and crampons. The forests were nice here but near Tblisi less so.
Found a few dogs who guided me part of the way, bring some food if you want a hiking buddy.
Scandinavia is better for hiking
Svaneti is kino
mt elburus is food
I'm sick of my country and considering moving to Georgia just to vibe there and get that 1% small business tax, but having to stay 6 months per year among hordes of exiled vatnaggers when I could be jumping around SEA doesn't sound great. At least my country is well liked by real Georgians though.
Are there any other places to check out besides Tbilisi, something comfortable and with less vatniks?
How's the cooming there? I heard Jason and his Argonauts really enjoyed their visit, is it still good?
I'm in Georgia currently, don't bother.
Tblisi is a shithole. Prices are expensive (inline with the US/UK), people are rude, and food is awful. Visited the national park forest and that was awful. Only good thing I found here was an Armenian store, made most of the money spent here back from the cheap cigs.
Stepantsminsta/Sno has nice mountains, nothing interesting other than the paths.
And more misinformation. The country is fucking cheap! In Tblisi you can find those Handmade mead or cheese pastries EVERYWHERE and they're like £1.20. Restaurants in the most commercial areas aren't even expensive, and transport is cheap too (Unexpected for me) so I don't know where you've been kek.
The only thing you've told the truth about is that the Food isn't the best. But even then, there are a few dishes that very tasty so you always have those. And anyway for American palates not used to good food all of it is good, Americans love Georgian food.
>In Tblisi you can find those Handmade mead or cheese pastries EVERYWHERE and they're like £1.20.
op i hope you like bread and mead because these are the only things you will be eating in Georgia
Kek you guys are trying to give OP buyers remorse. More fool you if you didn't actually get authentic old homestyle food.
Didn't ever see "Beans in a Clay Pot" did you? I nearly had an orgasm when I tasted it.
When did you go?
Lockdowns and the Russians have increased all the prices massively. It might be cheap compared to the UK, but portions are much smaller and lower quality for the price.
Public transport is cheap but don't expect anyone to speak the language
I went in October, obviously the prices have increased but if you never knew you'd think the prices were still reasonable, and if you're in small towns and the countryside (where you fucking should be) it's even more reasonable.
Not many people speak English, correct but that's the fun of it. And the people that you'll really need to be able to communicate with will speak enough English.
Don't look at everything with shit smeared Glasses. Get out of the SighSee mindset sometimes buddy.
Even in the countryside prices were expensive, the only place with reasonable prices was an armenian store on the outskirts of Tblisi.
>And the people that you'll really need to be able to communicate with will speak enough English
The police in Tblisi barely spoke any English when I was being arrested.
>Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine
Most of it felt like seeking for approval from westerners. People were massive retards overall, even the turks were smarter
Ok well I don't know what to tell you. I guess you wanted £1 meals like in Asia. I'll tell you where to palm your next trip.
Well I hope to never have to talk to the Police in any country. What the hell happened? kek
Wasn't expecting cheap meals, just not the same price as here.
Not really sure about the police, just went up the side of the hill near a road and ended up being dragged to them at the top of it. Spent about half an hour being shouted at.
IT'S NOT THE SAME PRICE AS HERE.
> Most of it felt like seeking for approval from westerners. People were massive retards overall, even the turks were smarter
Georgians in general, go on /misc/ to see what I am talking about. They seethe the most about Ukraine and Russia and are the biggest Reddit nation in caucuses and even “Eastern Europe” if you go as far to include them. Their seething over Russia is annoying, even Armenians aren’t as annoying about Turks as they are with Russians. They put up EU flags all over the capital and spread their asscheeks for any appproval by globohomo it’s disgusting
>Georgians in general, go on /misc/ to see what I am talking about. They seethe the most about Ukraine and Russia and are the biggest Reddit nation in caucuses and even “Eastern Europe” if you go as far to include them. Their seething over Russia is annoying, even Armenians aren’t as annoying about Turks as they are with Russians. They put up EU flags all over the capital and spread their asscheeks for any appproval by globohomo it’s disgusting
why do you expect them to not seethe tho, they have 2 breakaway regions in already small country cause of russia and they have been constantly fucked over by them for last 2 centuries, i think georgia manages to be quite a conservative and good nation judging by the fact that it's forced to ally with west
They have very good reason to hate Russians, most poltard Americans don't seem to understand you can dislike Russia without being brainwashed by da jooz or whatever retardation
Nah go the lobio bro, it's not so interesting but you can eat 5 every day when you're on the go without hating yourself.
Watch out for moonshine as well, every second family seems to be making their own brandy or wine but because of poverty a lot of these operations are substandard and medical alcohol is often sold in clubs.
I stayed during covid for six months in 2020, 1.2 for pastry sounds insane. Shit was way cheaper then and I was ordering takeout every day delivered to my home with a limited budget
Fucking vatnigs
Food was great though
And sorry to spam but one more thing. in this shitty age where in the world can you stand by a huge waterfall fucking alone?
Don't know how anyone can talk shit about the nature experiences.
>Georgia seems to have pretty much everything.
Except for Abkhazia and South Ossetia
Batumi gets shit on but I think it’s cool, the promenade is definitely beautiful, and you get women from Turkey, Emirates, Iran etc there coming over to let loose. I banged a Turkish girl. Also for coomers, the hotels are massive and face each other. If you get on the 20th floor+, women are retards (or exhibitionists with plausible deniability) and walk around naked at night with thee curtains open and lights on.
Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine (which is everywhere but it seemed the worst here).
Kutaisi is pretty cool. Cheap food and beer, nature, pretty girls.
Interesting
>Also for coomers, the hotels are massive and face each other. If you get on the 20th floor+, women are retards (or exhibitionists with plausible deniability) and walk around naked at night with thee curtains open and lights on.
Based info. Thanks for looking out for your coomer bros.
What makes Batumi better for women? I saw a lot of beautiful women in Tblisi and elsewhere but not sure how approachable they were so can't speak on them too much.
Batumi is a tourist resort town with lots of foreigners, Russian and Turkish sluts. Tbilisi is just more conservative. Not as much as Yerevan though you can still score with chicks. In armenia the dudes are less cucked and euro minded and will actually chase you with kebab skewers if they see you act like a pua fag
> Tbilisi felt like a Reddit city to me, lots of simping for the EU and Ukraine (which is everywhere but it seemed the worst here).
I like Yerevan more because of this, every gogi is pretentious especially the zoomers. In armenia they are less globohomo minded. In Georgia all the zoomers act like that nfkrz YouTuber and are euro good goys, plus their hate boner for Russia is worse than Armenians for turkey. At least there’s good reasons to seethe about turkey, Gogis just seethe about Russia because of muh west and muh sakashvilli
Good thing is the legal immunity you get. Flash your European passport and they'll let you go and apology for bothering you.
Would really recommend Georgia.
The poor infrastructure isn't a problem because of how small it is, it's probably still super cheap, the ethnically homogenous locals are hospitable and interested in visitors, the history is rich and there are a ton of things to do.
You can go trekking, skiing, hiking, half the country is an active archrological site, they're conservative in the medieval way of drinking wine by the jug and singing in taverns. Often you will be in the Georgian equivalent of spoons after a big night out and the drunks from the night before will form some kind of chior.
The Russia/ Georgia shit is somthing they get buthurt about not somthing your need to get burhurt about, just don't speak to young people in Russian... unless you're actually Russian. Strange problem eurasians and bloc nationals can have.
They hate gays, it's not uncommon for bone heads to come up to people who look gay and bully them.
Drugs are a total no. There's not much out there, the prices are a total joke, and the mafia is way heavier than you'd expect from a glance. Police are thugs but you'll rarely see them.
It gets cold in many regions, like... snow. But it's very hot in summer so you may out may not want to bring winter gear.
Vegitarians can have a bad time, you can always buy fresh fruit and veg and there's an abundance of tree nuts. This being said Georgians don't look favourably on vegitarians and associate it with homosexuality. As a nation they don't know what a "hippie" is.
You'll get used to the informal Georgian bus network pretty quickly, it looks sketchy but that's just what it is.
And because you can fly into Georgia for like $50 I'm surprised more people aren't hoping in and out through larnaca, Greece and the like.
Very interesting and accurate take though.
What was that stuff about the Mafia though. How would you even be privy?
>You'll get used to the informal Georgian bus network pretty quickly, it looks sketchy but that's just what it is.
Is it any different to marshrutkas prevalent in the former Soviet Union?
no, it's the same mashrutkas as everywhere else in ex-USSR
Georgian mashrutkas are probably the worst I've ever been on, lots of drivers who play loud Soviet pop at full volume and rip off the foreign travelers for as much as possible
Never had issue with that. Dirt cheap. You pay. You get on. Granted, the experience is something fucking insane. I haven't had soviet pop at full volume, but I had an old driver, driving in heat (meaning, during the summer) he hasn't sipped, not even a slight of water and was driving like absolute lunatic. We were on a highway and he often just took over other cars even in curves and often even decided to drive in the cars opposite direction and just honk to let others know. That was crazy!
Some drivers are like that, others more relaxed. It's pretty chill ohterwise.
>Georgians don't look favourably on vegitarians and associate it with homosexuality
They're not too wrong, as veganism is generally associated with SJW shit
kek when I was a kid and used to visit armenia with my family everyone would think I was a woman or gay because I had somewhat long hair and wore shorts
>ethnically homogenous locals
If you dig a little deeper, you'll find lots of regional identities, and I'm not just talking about the obvious breakaway provinces, Pankisi Chechens or immigrants from the Caucasus, Svans and Adjarians. There's Khevsurs, Mingrelians, Imerelians, Tushetians, Javakhetians... It's a surprisingly tribal nation still, with for example half of Javakheti being Armenian by ethnicity - distinct from either Georgians or Javakhetians.
>Vegitarians can have a bad time. [...] This being said Georgians don't look favourably on vegitarians and associate it with homosexuality. As a nation they don't know what a "hippie" is.
It's one of the easiest places to find vegetarian food in my experience, even in the countryside. Never got hassled for it, but I'm tall, muscular, have a sizeable beard and cauliflower ears and am happy to partake in the plentifully provided chacha so not easily associated with homosexuality. Skews my perspective for sure, but I suspect that as long as you don't look or behave gay, you're unlikely to be bothered.
Old pic from Chauki pass, Sno valley.
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Just came back from a ski trip in Georgia, AMA
Headed to Georgia because I wanted something more off the beaten path, (yes I'm aware of the Russians there, no that doesn't deter me)
But I just want an idea of how much money I should budget (aside from flight/hotel) for 7 days in Tbilisi?
You can get an Airbnb room for 15-25$ a night depending on how close to center you want it to be, pic related for how it would look.
Taxi in the city would cost roughly 1$-4$ per trip, so if you will travel around a lot on taxi it would average out to 9$ a day if you take like 3 taxi trips around.
Bus and Metro is fully negligible price, costs 30 cents, basically free.
Equivalent of generic full meal costs roughly 7$, so like imagine a big burger+fries+cola at a place like Pipes burger at Fabrica, these prices are roughly universal across different types of food and if you go to traditional food places especially less popular ones it will be cheaper, one khinkali dumpling costs 50 cents on average so you can eat 10 gigantic dumplings (one dumpling is roughly size of 3 chinese soup dumplings) for 5 $ and not want to eat for the rest of the day. A fancier restaurant like Veriko or Salobiebia might cost you like 28$ per person, that includes a glass of wine a dish like Gurulian Kababs fused with some Chinese style sweet sour tastes and an apetizer like roasted vegetables with sourcream and walnut sauce and georgian bread.
Staying in Tbilisi for a week living costs and food all out included should not cost you more than 300$-500$ for 7 days depending on how much you go all out, but it is also stupid to just be in Tbilisi. You need to go out a bit, rent a car and drive to Kazbegi, drive to Sighnagi, Dashbashi canyon, at least go to some of the normie locations
great highlands
I'm cycling through Georgia in a month or so. Is Tbilisi worth staying more than a day? I was thinking staying in a hotel in the mountains, then just go through Tbilisi, maybe one night. Is there are reason to stay more? I live next to Russia so I don't wanna see any russkies
Its fine, but depends on the way you travel. I for example couldn't stay in a city just for a day because it takes me a while to get used to new culture, new system and all.
It sounds like it is becoming unsafe.
Gogis are annoying wannabe butthurt belters who have a superiority complex over other churkas. Their zoomers desperately want to be part of the EU/NATO and their russian hate boner is pretty cringe. I don't have anything against them irl but their flags on /misc/ are seriously some of the most annoying posters. The fact that such a small country has that amount of posters on an autistic image board while say Armenia doesn't is very telling
They're also obsessed with sex on the level of Turks, and the most common insult in their language is "I fucked ur mom".
Hate to break it to you but if you travel enough you'll discover that "I fucked your mom" and it's variations seems to be the most common insult in the world
It's either feces or sexual relation with member of your family.
Did I miss any major subjects?
Poop and piss seems to be Germanic
Implying that your mother or your relatives are cheap whores is southern and eastern European
Calling someone a vagina seems to be popular with slavs
Fucking your mother ruthlessly is a middle eastern thing
But I think all insults work universally just that they are emphasized differently
Like being called a dick is insulting, but being called a хyйлo is more insulting
Also finished traveling around western Georgia
It's a lush paradise and people know Russian better there than in center, would recommend, imereti, megrelia, guria, adjara all good, and food is also amazing more Hispanices and strange mixes of tastes like mint with cheese or these really thin papers of dough fried in clarified butter and then dipped in different sauces, shit is cash
Don't forget insulting your sexuality/masculinity! Puto
Georgia is top-tier - coomers are out of luck but everything else is fucking lit, definitely going to make it a regular destination when i get reasonably well-off
why is the amerishart state of georgia considered the deep south?
Where do I go if I want to drink wine and eat local food in rustic and peacefull surroundings?
Very difficult to pin point a single location since that's not uncommon.
If you want to go specifically to region most famous for wine go to Kakheti.
Best solution always is to find friends locally and have fun in some village with relatives for most authentic experience.