Going to be visiting Johannesburg and Pretoria for 10 days in January. Best means of getting around? Rental car? Taxi?

Going to be visiting Johannesburg and Pretoria for 10 days in January.
Best means of getting around?
Rental car? Taxi?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can do rental, but dunno if you would keep up with the aggressive driving there, the dealing with loadshedding and since its the rainy season - occasional road flooding

    Take an Uber, never use a minibus taxi.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      How safe is Uber?
      I am not going to the CBD obviously but still

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uber is as safe as Uber can conventionally be perceived.
        Take note however that some Uber drivers were harassed by other taxi organizations years ago for stealing their business in front of prominent stops. So dont be surprised if an Uber driver asks to pickup/dropoff a bit further away. Its gotten better and having used Uber extensively in both Joburg and Cape Town myself - you should be fine.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks man.
          I heard taxis are a bit reckless.
          However, if I rent a car to drive basically in the suburbs between Pretoria and JNB (sandton, rosebank), I should be fine? Traffic wise. Carjacking wise?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Within the suburbs sure, but you'll still have to deal with traffic, loadshedding etc when driving on the highways going between Pretoria and Joburg. Carjackings can happen at anytime and just a matter of bad luck; stick to the inner lanes if you can help it; avoid driving at night and when you do slow down at red lights but never come to a full stop.
            Also rent a car with a bit of height.

            Im sure you'll manage, but otherwise also consider making use of the Gautrain that runs between the airport, Joburg and Pretoria. Not quite a subway or amtrak, but more like a glorified airport skytrain. You'll avoid traffic, loadshedding and because of its higher pricepoint - the riffraff making use of it. Only drawback is still having to use Uber to get to a station and again at the other end.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks a lot for everything.
              Geneeally speaking, is Pretoria safer than Joburg?
              Maybe I should get a hotel there if yes

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Joburg and Pretoria is so close together its kinda a moot point as to which is safer. Really just depends where you're staying.
                You'll be fine in areas like Sandton/Rosebank in Joburg; its the richest square mile in Africa; appropriately policed and touristy.
                Pretoria I cant say much anymore these days, but personally would rather stay in Centurion just outside of the city.

                Either way just have common sense as with any foreign city. Dont go driving around the middle of the CBD at night, use an ATM on the street or take up any offers of women who want to have a drink with you. If it looks like the GPS wants to take you through a squatter camp, take the next offramp instead.
                South Africans are generally eager to help tourists even if some just like the prospect of making a buck down the line.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Much appreciated

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Centurion seems nice, I can also practice my afrikaans haha

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >never use a minibus taxi.
      I'll bite, what's gonna happen exactly?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's more that people can fake being minibus taxi's but Uber it's not so easy.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're also filled to the gills with Black folk who'll try to steal your stuff.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        imagine the most unroadworthy vehicle possible, now pack it to almost double capacity, being driven by someone who bought their license and who dont give a frick about road rules or other drivers; trying to dump their load of passengers as quickly as possible so that he can load up more

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bump. I see a lot of shit threads but mine is buried over here.
    Help?

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    How safe is it for a white male to rent a car in Joburg Airport & drive over to Mpumalanga & Kruger area for a few days & then back again? Would one be driving through sketchy areas on this route?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just never relax around blacks and you'll be fine

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You'll be mostly fine when driving through Joburg Airport and cross the Highveld into Mpumalanga up till Mbombela. From there it depends which Kruger gate you're going to enter as it then gets more rural. There has been incidents lately around the Hazyview gates, but less so further up north, but they look just as sketchy. Most locals are more keen to sell you stuff than rob you.
      This is where local knowledge comes into play as you cant rely on Google Maps to provide that kind of information.
      Alternatively you can arrange special transfers to the Kruger via either Joburg airport or Mbombela/Kruger airport

      I’m gonna be remotely working from Cape Town in December (1 month).
      Do you have any advice for me?

      As mentioned Cape Town is going to be packed during December, but at least the weather will be nice. Put in the effort to try the local foods and drink. Go up either coastline to visit small towns or inland to visit winefarms.
      Avoid the V&A Waterfront and other big malls during the two weeks over Christmas and New Years - dont even think visiting the beaches during that time either.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for your reply. Tbh I'm not overly concerned with going on a safari. I mostly want to visit white majority towns in South Africa...I know of Hoedspruit, White River and St. Lucia & Richards Bay down in KZN. I'm not sure what you think of these places or whether it's a good idea for me to driving around half lost to all these places on baby's first Africa trip. Maybe I'd be better off exploring towns in the Western Cape? What I'm really after is some nice scenery, being amongst white saffas/not having to be too worried about safety & (strange one) eating high quality fruit in its locality, possibly going to some pick your own fruit farms. I'm hoping to be going in January so I know there'll will be fruits in season all over South Africa but any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I know of Hoedspruit, White River and St. Lucia & Richards Bay down in KZN
          >white majority towns
          Nope.
          >Maybe I'd be better off exploring towns in the Western Cape?
          Yes. From what you described you would be better off in the Cape and would still have a wide variety of fruit options; especially in the Ceres valley.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            So is there any white towns left in Eastern South Africa?
            I also don't wanna be around apologist Liberal whites which I believe cape town is full of. Is there any based towns in the Western Cape?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >So is there any white towns left in Eastern South Africa?
              Nope - youre going to AFRICA my guy. There are like 5 blacks to every 1 white person. This isnt apartheid era South Africa anymore.
              >I also don't wanna be around apologist Liberal whites which I believe cape town is full of.
              Cant tell if baiting or just sensitive
              >Is there any based towns in the Western Cape?
              Yes plenty, but if you want a White only (totally not white supremacist) town then go to Orania

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not baiting.

                Just want some chill majority white towns, doesn't have to be exclusively white like Orania. So where would you suggest to go in the Western Cape?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Darling, Paternoster, Riebeek-Kasteel, Montagu, Hermanus, Stellenbosch even just off the top of my head
                Most of the towns are interchangeable, with the only notable difference being the coastal towns and the in-land towns. Coastal towns will all be white washed buildings, sea food restaurants and beach goers.
                Inland towns will have more historical dutch buildings, food markets and wine estates.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cool thanks for the info. Do you think I'd be better off renting a car and hitting places like you've mentioned or just bussing it everywhere. I know renting cars is fairly cheap in saffa, but it would just be one more item that you need to 'watch' though.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you think I'd be better off renting a car and hitting places like you've mentioned or just bussing it everywhere
                In this instance I would suggest renting a car as bussing around really wouldnt be an option unless you're on some kind of tour bus. Just keep in mind some of these towns is an hour apart from one another with not much in between.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >So is there any white towns left in Eastern South Africa?

              No and there shouldnt be. Frick off Boer apologist

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not a Boer apologist, I just wanna immerse myself in Boer culture.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_River,_Mpumalanga

            Wiki says 60% white. Where are you getting your information from?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >relying on Wiki to give accurate information
              >from 2011
              That's easily down to 50 or even 40% now.
              See White River on the left? See all those black townships on the right that has sprung up over the past 10 years?
              Can you guess which town their denizens descend upon on the regular? Where they ultimately move to once they have enough cash?
              And guess what; there's even more to the north. Sure Mbombela is the bigger city, but White River is like the nearest stop and just as convenient.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m gonna be remotely working from Cape Town in December (1 month).
    Do you have any advice for me?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the number one rule as mentioned here already
      if theres no white people around get out of there as fast as you can.

      pretend that nowhere is safe and always keep an eye out.
      really depends where youre going and what you want to do.
      speak to the people at your accommodation on where to be and where not to be, they will be able to tell you.

      if youre using google maps dont assume the fastest way is the best and safest route.
      https://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/515099-google-maps-will-dodge-south-africas-crime-hotspots.html

      as bad as it seems there are "safe" areas and you will have a good time

      cape town will be absolutely packed in january but really nice

      around the whole country the latest thing is people literally just grabbing your phone and running into a car. happened to be while sitting in a restaurant

      basically to sum it up

      Just never relax around blacks and you'll be fine

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You'll be mostly fine when driving through Joburg Airport and cross the Highveld into Mpumalanga up till Mbombela. From there it depends which Kruger gate you're going to enter as it then gets more rural. There has been incidents lately around the Hazyview gates, but less so further up north, but they look just as sketchy. Most locals are more keen to sell you stuff than rob you.
        This is where local knowledge comes into play as you cant rely on Google Maps to provide that kind of information.
        Alternatively you can arrange special transfers to the Kruger via either Joburg airport or Mbombela/Kruger airport

        [...]
        As mentioned Cape Town is going to be packed during December, but at least the weather will be nice. Put in the effort to try the local foods and drink. Go up either coastline to visit small towns or inland to visit winefarms.
        Avoid the V&A Waterfront and other big malls during the two weeks over Christmas and New Years - dont even think visiting the beaches during that time either.

        Thanks a lot guys, I'm taking my plane to Cape Town today. Nervous as frick

        Btw I'm trans if that matters

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read somewhere that there are water shortages in Johannesburg. good luck OP.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    That pic looks awesome. Makes me want to visit

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