Anyone here ever been here? I recently got accepted for a job at Alibaba and i'm trying to do as much research as I can about Hangzhou before I move there. I'll be a long-term resident there and will be living there, I wont be a tourist, I'm living and working there.
I hear that its a rather developed city for Chinese standards and things are very new since a lot of the construction was made in the last 10 years.
Ever visited there? Lived there or even worked there before? I want to know whats it like there.
It's a lovely place, very well-developed and with a high quality of life.
no need to bring cash, everything and everyone uses Alipay
I've read in other threads that it's absolute hell working with other businesses. Business owners are corrupt, quality control is horrid, and they cut corners at every opportunity they get.
If your job is to make deals or hold partners accountable you're going to have a horrible time.
Hangzhou fucks. You're gonna have a great time, especially if you enjoy living in China
Was this from that "don't learn Mandarin" guy?
>Was this from that "don't learn Mandarin" guy?
Yes, I believe so.
He's a retard who couldn't hack it. Ignore him. Plenty of people have been there for decades doing biz and get along just fine.
this
HOWEVER, apparently unpopular opinion: Hangzhou sucks. Spread out, nothing particularly interesting, some of the worst food compared to other cities
t. lives in Shanghai
>Hangzhou fucks. You're gonna have a great time,
Can you give some details on why it fucks? I'm not really a night-life sort of a guy, but I know enough that HZ is the most 1st-tier like city without the massive crowds. I'm actually hoping to find love in China; do many girls there speak English or at least open minded to foreigners?
I unfortunately have never been (plan to go in the next few months) but tons of friends have and they all say that Hangzhou is like Shanghai but more laid-back, less people, great quality of life (seriously modernized Chinese cities are top tier), all sorts of good industry, fairly good weather (I live in nearby Shanghai and can vouch, especially the mild winters), stuff to do (if you're in the right part of town). They're right on the food though, been underwhelmed by the food in East China but it also doesn't suck.
As for finding love (assuming you're looking for long-term relationships and not cooming), there will be plenty of girls who speak English in Hangzhou and will definitely be open to dating foreigners; I do way better on Tinder than my ugly ass should. Ironically the more English they speak, the less they're willing to hook up (as they're usually attending/graduates of some Western university and are looking for something more serious). Every kind of person exists in China, there's something for everyone. Good luck!
You'd have to be retarded to not find love in China.
challenge accepted
It's laughably easy, I've never seen anything like it. That being said, how did you get hired at Alibaba as a foreigner? Didn't know there were opportunities like that.
>Finding love in China
Anon...you absolutely DO NOT want to fall in love with a Chinese girl who speaks English. She's had 20 white/black dicks inside her before you.
>Mfw I know someone who married the gaijin hunter slut
>Mfw she cheated on him
>Mfw they are still together and she's cucking him
Only way to find a legit gf is by learning the language and that goes for all of Asia. Any idiot who dates/marries an English speaking Asian deserves to get cucked.
Amazing city with good quality of life and nature. Note it's crazy humid in the summer and deadly cold in the winter.
What kind of job?
With you on the summers (live in Shanghai) but are the winters really that bad in HZ? They've been fine in Shanghai, but I come from a cold place.
I find Shanghai really cold during the winter despite it rarely dipping below zero. Hangzhou is that, but a few degrees colder.
Does it snow in Hangzhou?
I was told it snowed a bit this winter. Shanghai and Hangzhou has wet cold, which I find worse than in the colder places I've lived. Also there's no government mandated heating like the north.
I get the whole wet cold/dry cold thing but I grew up in a place that was wet cold and Shanghai isn't terrible by most standards. You're right about the heating though. Forgot about that.
It's been snowing a little bit in East China as a whole this winter.
They've improved the air quality so much since then, it's kind of baffling. I counted maybe 15 days where the pollution was "bad" (mind you, an average day in Beijing in 2019 and they're also better) and maybe four or five where there was the chemical soup air that China still gets a bad rap for. Hangzhou is almost certainly worse than Shanghai as it's surrounded by factory towns but people I know who live there never talk about how bad the pollution is, or that there's much of any at all.
*meant to add, in 2022 in Shanghai.
>What kind of job?
Working in marketing for an e-commerce company (I guess you'd know which one), I wont give out more info other than that.
But the team i'm working with are english speaking and international and I'm not a steel-dealer.
I was there in 2015 and the smog was horrible. My nostrils felt like they were always burning. I can't offer much advice beyond that because I was 18 and being chaperoned
>China numba on-*ACK*!!!
中国 is finished. Hope you don't get caught in the collapse, OP
It's simply over for China. How can they compete?
Isn't this the guy who literally created the "two weeks" meme cause kept predicting China would collapse in two weeks?
The two weeks meme started with covid ("two weeks to flatten the curve"). Zeihan accurately points out that china can't recover from their demographics and reliance on imports.
Boomer projection is so funny. Don't worry the Latinx and Nog legions will save the WEST!
coping and whataboutism won't save your dying demographics, chang. have sex.
Oh, you're not even a boomer, you're a pajeet. Explains the retardation. Maybe one day you'll figure out how toilets work.
>reliance on imports.
bwahahahahahahahahahaha