Hawaii

I've never been to Hawaii before. Is it worth the hype? How is the culture? It seems like paradise both physically and culturally.

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it worth the hype?
    The nature is certainly. But you REALLY need a car.

    How is the culture?
    Natives don’t want you there, but whites and Asians outnumber them 2:1 now. Hard to escape the resort feel. Girls are hot, but Hawaii give them a superiority complex. Been three different islands three different times. Feels like enough for me. Definitely enough money spent.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a loaded question because there's no such thing as paradise and Hawaii has many of the same issues back in the mainland. There's traffic, crime, homelessness and social issues just like any other place in the US.
      Culturally there is the spirit of Aloha but you also have a lot of tension with land. COL is expensive and so much land is getting bought by corporate re-estate speculators and STRs.

      Natives are moronic and easily the biggest welfare cucks in the United States and are forever seething with a victim complex unlike anything you see even in the worst ghettos back in the mainland. But its easy to ignore and it is a two way street, basically don't be a dickwad and trash the place and try to contribute.
      The moronation with this is that Hawaii without tourism or the military would be a third world country. They can blame whitey all you want, but keep in mind it was THEIR OWN KING that literally gave away their country (which mind you just became united) to Europeans.

      My advice is to make friends with locals, help them-out and get to know the people. The natives at first hated me the Haoles but when I lived there and actually became a neighbor and not treat the place as some endless resort things definitely changed,

      It's ironic seeing so many Asians and people with maybe 25% Polynesian ancestry MAX larping as if they stepped off a voyaging canoe and are true natives because they drop in some pidgin BS and talk about aloha spirit (mainly to just push others into non confrontational conformity) meanwhile the "real" natives (very few are actually more than 80% native Hawaiian) are living in the ghettos high on crystal meth.
      If you're really into Polynesian culture and history then the Bishop Museum is a hands down must see. I live on the west coast and do outrigger canoeing so I mix with a lot of Hawaiian expats and what the Polynesians did in exploration of the Pacific is truly an epic event. You won't find a bigger collection of Polynesian cultural artifacts anywhere else in the world. With that said ironically lots of native Hawaiians are pretty racist to other Pacific peoples especially to Micronesians who are see as the Mexicans of Hawaii who steal their manual labor jobs.
      Sadly most of what typical tourists see as Hawaiian culture is just eating lots of Japanese food and poke and taking insta photos at Waikiki and Diamondhead.

      that was the part that got me, there are very few pure blooded native Hawaiians if any.
      I found the best bros I still have contact with are the Samoans and Fijians.
      I went to Fiji to meet up with one of the people I worked with and honestly Fiji to me was like what I thought Hawaii would be like in terms of the friendly people and beauty.

      God these posts sound depressing.
      Is there really no one who had a blast there?
      The best of these say you gotta go grind and become part of the community like what the heck?
      I want to hear about dudes going there and getting dragged away by island girls to have parties.
      This just sounds like a pathetic ritual for newly weds before they have a kid and end up with a dead bedroom.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not meant to be depressing, Hawaii is still one of the best places to visit and live in the United States and the world. It's just not the Paradise on Earth as it is perceived to be.

        The locals even the polys are extremely friendly, its just there's more to Hawaii than just a party/resort town and you can understand with the COL and housing and work issues there is a lot of resentment. I look at from both sides, the "locals" tend to have to moronic attitude towards Haloes (non-natives) when HI would be nothing if it were not for Tourism and the military. The push towards lack of self-sufficiency has been a choice by the locals as much as anyone else. They have this victim mentality that never goes away. The same goes for housing being sold off towards non-locals and as vacation homes. I also see moronic tourists and party goers who treat HI as throwaway holiday.
        The local make big talk about respect but it goes 2-ways, don't not also be a doormat i.e like a surfing spot but obviously don't be a dick.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Hawaii is still one of the best places to visit and live in the United States and the world.
          US? Sure. World? Absolutely fricking not.
          Hawaii is a corrupt, backwards island nation that feels like you're in some poor Asian country than in the US.
          Like everything in the US, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Spain has far superior beaches. SEA has far superior cooming and good beaches.
          If you want to just check Hawaii off some box, sure go see it. But outside of that there's literally no reason to go there. It used to be fun, but those days are so long gone they don't even remember them.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Guam is nice. Like Hawaii in the 80s.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Spain has far superior beaches.
            No it doesn't. The beaches and scenery of Hawaii are almost unparalleled.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              I can ride a tram to most beaches in Spain, meanwhile Hawaii can't even build a tram in 40 years.
              I can buy a fly to Spain from Germany for €50 most of the time. Meanwhile it's usually $600 from mainland US to Hawaii at its cheapest.
              I don't have to worry about homeless meth heads on a Spanish beach.
              Topless women play badminton on Spanish beaches.
              I don't have to be stuck in literal hours of traffic in Spain to get the the beach.
              The restaurants next to the beach in Spain are top tier. Yes Hawaii has SOME good ones, but most are shit.

              Yes Hawaii is beautiful, but it's still a pile of shit. Every year some new indigenous bullshit zoning happens and suddenly you have less beach access or less hiking trail access in Hawaii. That's not the case in Spain.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://weatherspark.com/compare/y/139~47213/Comparison-of-the-Average-Weather-in-Honolulu-and-Barcelona
                Let's compare the climate of Honolulu to Barcelona. Hawaii >>> anywhere Spain.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, White people have winter. Deal with it.
                Let's compare Spain to Hawaiians indigenous burial sites on the beaches restricting access. Yup, Hawaii has more too.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know what you're wanting out of it. It's Hawaii. It's a third world state forcibly propped up by 75+ years of US MIC spending and ancillary tourism. The 'natives' eternally seethe about it despite the fact that they'd look like Haiti if they were their own country. I wish we could let them leave everyone would be happier (except for them after about 3-4 years when the hype wears off and they become Haiti).

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m upper-middle class. Hawaii was a blast as a kid. Now it makes me feel poor, ugly, and uncool all at the same time. Would rather be SEA.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Guess America is still America even on sunny islands

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The best of these say you gotta go grind and become part of the community like what the heck?
        Island societies are very insular. Everyone knows each other and in a lot of cases their grandparents knew each other, are related, etc.
        >I want to hear about dudes going there and getting dragged away by island girls to have parties.
        That doesn't happen. Plus the obesity is even worse than on the mainland. Girls are either pretty hot and thin but know it or they're 300 lb literal whales with no in between.
        The Japanese food though, is imo the best it gets in the US.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I lived there, ignore like 60% of this thread, they've only been to the one main drag in Waikiki and the big island.

        It's great. Not much of a party/clubbing scene though(house parties locals only)
        everyone's friendly unless you come off as a massive dick or try to fight military Black folk/samoans.
        Lots of chill hippies and surfer-bro types. The "local" women are all mid and have slept around a lot unless you're going for Japanese tourists - this could be a skill issue on my end though.

        Ignore boomers and fratty millennial types because they'll try to rope you into some awful incestueous bar scene. Do try to interact with chill ricers with JDM cars, hikers, sufers, and hippies. Your experience depends on the scene you slip into and those scenes are by far the least homosexual.

        ignore all meth-heads, as with anywhere.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Girls are hot, but Hawaii give them a superiority complex.
      That's because they ARE superior to you, low value male

      It's ironic seeing so many Asians and people with maybe 25% Polynesian ancestry MAX larping as if they stepped off a voyaging canoe and are true natives because they drop in some pidgin BS and talk about aloha spirit (mainly to just push others into non confrontational conformity) meanwhile the "real" natives (very few are actually more than 80% native Hawaiian) are living in the ghettos high on crystal meth.
      If you're really into Polynesian culture and history then the Bishop Museum is a hands down must see. I live on the west coast and do outrigger canoeing so I mix with a lot of Hawaiian expats and what the Polynesians did in exploration of the Pacific is truly an epic event. You won't find a bigger collection of Polynesian cultural artifacts anywhere else in the world. With that said ironically lots of native Hawaiians are pretty racist to other Pacific peoples especially to Micronesians who are see as the Mexicans of Hawaii who steal their manual labor jobs.
      Sadly most of what typical tourists see as Hawaiian culture is just eating lots of Japanese food and poke and taking insta photos at Waikiki and Diamondhead.

      >Micronesians
      Daily reminder these people are welfare parasites and bring nothing but crime (ever seen a "swarming"?). They're endowed with the most amazing right in the world to live and work in the US by treaty, but piss it away doing nothing but shit up whatever neighborhood they appear in. If you like them so much put them up in your house, homosexual.

      >Hawaii is still one of the best places to visit and live in the United States and the world.
      US? Sure. World? Absolutely fricking not.
      Hawaii is a corrupt, backwards island nation that feels like you're in some poor Asian country than in the US.
      Like everything in the US, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. Spain has far superior beaches. SEA has far superior cooming and good beaches.
      If you want to just check Hawaii off some box, sure go see it. But outside of that there's literally no reason to go there. It used to be fun, but those days are so long gone they don't even remember them.

      >Like everything in the US, the juice isn't worth the squeeze
      You mean to say you're a loser who can't make it in the US and need to move to a 3rd world shithole to geomaxx? What a chud

      Shirokiya and a third of all restaurants have been shuttered. Prices are still nearly double the mainland average for most of everything. Most services have reopened but still not to full capacity. I guess beaches are nice somewhat but the COL is so ridiculous it ain't worth it

      > Shirokiya
      Daily reminder they had a bad business model and was locked out after a rent dispute with Ala Moana Center

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What a chud
        The standard of living is so much higher in Europe it blows everyone away from the US that visits.
        >"heh you can't make it being a literal slave in the US have 2 days off a year and getting grilled for taking both at the same time"

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it worth the hype?
      Depends on the island. I loved Hawai'i road trip and Kauai nature hikes. But I HATED Oahu (waikiki).
      >How is the culture?
      It's American + tidbits of hawaiian. Like a theme park but like if mickey mouse was forced to present his culture in a palatable way. I can only hope more ethnic hawaiians can open up solid businesses in time.
      >It seems like paradise both physically and culturally.
      I will say that I went into my first trip (big island) expecting call out the over hype, but the small towns and island life combined with the people I met made it worth while. I remember stopping by Ed's Bakery at like 5 am and talking with the owner and his teenager workers (before their school time) about the similarities and differences there and on the mainland. How, despite myself being from Maine, we had so much in common and yet with some key differences with history and such.

      I loved it. As cliché as it is I will be going back many more times in my life.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        did not mean to quote;
        adding to myself. get a CAR. Uber added up to around the price of a rental, and I stayed in a cabana on Big Island with nightly being only 25$. Highly recommend sleeping outside.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          On Oahu you can actually take the bus a surprising amount of places like even some far-off beaches, but the downside is it takes forever.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I thought about that for Waikiki, but instead rented a bike. I'm not used to public transit tbh. That part made it interesting, but outside of waikiki is not very bike friendly, so the furthest I got was iolani Palace.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      My dad went to Hawaii for his third honeymoon, was pretty happy with his time there. From what I've heard, living there is a whole different story. Either you are homeless and roughing it, slaving away on some kind of work-stay, or barely making ends meet while living in some rented dump, too tired after work to enjoy paradise.

      >natives don't want you there
      Seeing how much Maui locals hate tourists made me reconsider even visiting the islands. I'm not going to paypig to stay in "paradise" near a bunch of islanders who hate my haole ass.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Seeing how much Maui locals hate tourists made me reconsider even visiting the islands
        mostly the ultra wealthy ones who come in and buy up land. This was an issue well before the maui fire and is pretty much in their history now. general tourists bring them more money in the long run.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's a loaded question because there's no such thing as paradise and Hawaii has many of the same issues back in the mainland. There's traffic, crime, homelessness and social issues just like any other place in the US.
    Culturally there is the spirit of Aloha but you also have a lot of tension with land. COL is expensive and so much land is getting bought by corporate re-estate speculators and STRs.

    Natives are moronic and easily the biggest welfare cucks in the United States and are forever seething with a victim complex unlike anything you see even in the worst ghettos back in the mainland. But its easy to ignore and it is a two way street, basically don't be a dickwad and trash the place and try to contribute.
    The moronation with this is that Hawaii without tourism or the military would be a third world country. They can blame whitey all you want, but keep in mind it was THEIR OWN KING that literally gave away their country (which mind you just became united) to Europeans.

    My advice is to make friends with locals, help them-out and get to know the people. The natives at first hated me the Haoles but when I lived there and actually became a neighbor and not treat the place as some endless resort things definitely changed,

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They can blame whitey all you want, but keep in mind it was THEIR OWN KING that literally gave away their country (which mind you just became united) to Europeans.
      This isn't true. Their king was away on a diplomatic tour of the States when his legislature got bribed to pass a law allowing foreigners to own land. Then a few decades later the businessmen carried out a quick and bloodless coup against the queen (king had died) with the intent of getting annexed by the States. They had to wait a few years because Benjamin Harrison took too long to try to officially annex them, and then Grover Cleveland got his second term and blocked it. Then the Spanish-American War reduced opposition to expansion and the US added Hawaii and a bunch of other territories.
      The king was at fault for not undoing what his legislature did while he was away, but he did not intentionally sell out.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's ironic seeing so many Asians and people with maybe 25% Polynesian ancestry MAX larping as if they stepped off a voyaging canoe and are true natives because they drop in some pidgin BS and talk about aloha spirit (mainly to just push others into non confrontational conformity) meanwhile the "real" natives (very few are actually more than 80% native Hawaiian) are living in the ghettos high on crystal meth.
    If you're really into Polynesian culture and history then the Bishop Museum is a hands down must see. I live on the west coast and do outrigger canoeing so I mix with a lot of Hawaiian expats and what the Polynesians did in exploration of the Pacific is truly an epic event. You won't find a bigger collection of Polynesian cultural artifacts anywhere else in the world. With that said ironically lots of native Hawaiians are pretty racist to other Pacific peoples especially to Micronesians who are see as the Mexicans of Hawaii who steal their manual labor jobs.
    Sadly most of what typical tourists see as Hawaiian culture is just eating lots of Japanese food and poke and taking insta photos at Waikiki and Diamondhead.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      that was the part that got me, there are very few pure blooded native Hawaiians if any.
      I found the best bros I still have contact with are the Samoans and Fijians.
      I went to Fiji to meet up with one of the people I worked with and honestly Fiji to me was like what I thought Hawaii would be like in terms of the friendly people and beauty.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I grew up on Oahu for most of my life. Democrats have been ruining it and covid has killed it.
    If you don't have a car, you're fricked since most of the island doesn't have any sidewalks to speak of outside of city centers. There's homeless absolutely everywhere and are annoying as frick.
    I advise you to go to Kauai or the Big Island instead.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      How bad did things get during covid for you guys economically? I went to Oahu in April 2020 (tickets were purchased months in advance and things hadn't been locked down in Cali yet) and the day after we got there everything shut down. I'll never forget being the only person on Waikiki Beach and how pissed off everyone was for me being there as a tourist plague rat.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shirokiya and a third of all restaurants have been shuttered. Prices are still nearly double the mainland average for most of everything. Most services have reopened but still not to full capacity. I guess beaches are nice somewhat but the COL is so ridiculous it ain't worth it

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Just today, checked cheapest Airbnb options for a week in Honolulu

    >A FRICKING TRUNK for more than $600.

    Frick Hawaii, and everyone who lives there. I aint paying $600 to sleep in a car like a fricking hobo.

    $600 a week will get me a castle in Eastern Europe or an all inclusive resort in South East Asia.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    what do you lads think about maui?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      i like maui jim sunglasses.. never been to maui, heard they got good bbq.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you like hiking and beaches, hawaii is beautiful
    driving along the eastern coastline is one of the best drives in the USA (though that bar is already set pretty low)

    do the stairway to heaven hike (inb4 some gay whines about how its against the law) and visit lanikai beach.

    dont go unless u can guarantee a rental car.
    base yourself out of waikiki. yes its touristy but its worth seeing and unless ur staying in a hotel there, good luck finding parking

    yes its gorgeous (even waikiki beach), yes its expensive, yes its touristy... but everyone worth seeing nowadays will be.

    was it my favorite spot ? no (french polynesia is like a better version of hawaii.. i call hawaii the "american polynesia") will i go again ? probably not.. once was enough.. was it worth seeing one time ? absolutely

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stairway got torn down recently friend.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        how recently? I did it last spring and it was still hikeable

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends entirely on how much you are interested in the natural features, snorkeling, scuba, mountain hiking etc, to the exclusion of paying attention to the local culture. If all you care about it climbing Mauna Kea, snorkeling as much as you can, seeing the lava, all of that, then you’re going to have a blast. I have a masters in oceanography so I can derive my enjoyment from those activities alone.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The local culture is basically poorgay SEAsian culture in most of the urban places. The well off Asians like the Japanese and Koreans want nothing to do with it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much would someone expect to spend on activities like scuba, hiking, island hopping, rentals or other outdoor type stuff?
      I'm planning on going solo for ~10 days and the tickets are at least $500, hotels seem pretty expensive too not including parking

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hawaii is definitely worth seeing. I've only ever been to Maui (and it's probably not the best time to visit Maui given the wildfires..), but Hawaii is beautiful, has incredible scenery, and some of the best resorts out there (good restaurants too). Lots of great hiking, some of the best beaches in the world, and good outdoor activities. I've heard a lot of good things about Kauai as well (supposed to be just as beautiful, but more low-key than Maui or the big island). That being said, it's really expensive, so should keep that in mind. Would agree with other anons ITT that you need a car if you go.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    any people living in hawaii here?
    I am in love with the series hawaii 5 0, was that shit ever even remotely popular there? If I ever visit and see alex o loughin I will giggle like a fricking 10 year old. ( I am 30)

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m going for 9 days in November for my honeymoon. What should we do/not do? We had planned to go to Maui island. Sounds like renting a car is the way to go. I like hiking, my wife not so much

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not sure if Maui is that great to visit right now with all the damage from the wildfires, would do some research beforehand. You might want to look at Kauai, it's beautiful and not as crowded as some of the other islands, much more low key.

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've always wanted to adapt the full surfer lifestyle just for a year or two, is it possible to live in Hawaii for 2 years being non-American?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who grew up surfing in San Diego and the north shore of Oahu. Thats moronic and would justifiably get your ass kicked, just go to some east coast beach town in the US.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are not welcome here.We have too many people to take care of that we actually give a frick about out, its an island theres no room for outward expansion. Go somewhere else, even if its just for a visit

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