San Diego, California or Naples, Florida
Which is most becoming to the homeless lifestyle, assuming you do not do any drugs and absolutely will not seek government assistance?
My hobbies include
*Day trading on phone app
*Going to the gym
*Loitering at the library
*Loitering at colleges and sneaking into lectures
*Going hiking
*Riding my bicycle
*Stealth camping
*Doing odd jobs
*Doing jobs I think would be fun for temporary amounts of time
Previous location was Kentucky for two years, I survived the winter(some nights get into the negatives) and survived the summer(some extremely humid 100 degree days), I am now deciding that if I want to keep this up it would be much nicer to choose a location with less taxing weather. I will miss Kentucky, it is beautiful but some days the weather is so rough it gets in the way of clear thinking and leisure which are two very important things for me.
Bro you seem to be the "free spirit" type of homeless but spend any amount of time around San Diego and you will become the "violent deranged drug addict" type homeless. Better off finding some poor white trash place in Appalachia or the Midwest, like Topeka Kansas, where it's not super crowded and the homeless meth heads mostly keep to themselves and honestly nobody really cares or judges you if you live in a tent. If you're under 25 there will probably a contingency of quasi homeless kids who hang out at the local park smoking weed and occasionally squatting or running party houses and stuff.
But if you're just a richfag with some flashy camping gear who chooses to be homeless for lifestyle reasons rather than just sleeping in some dudes garage or finding some elderly lady who let's you stay her son's old room for free, I don't know man, rent someone's fucking backyard and build your hobo camp paradise?
I have zero interest in drug activity or associating with other homeless people, I also am not interested in just laying around in a park all day. I am a high activity person. San Diego seems ideal almost entirely because of the easy weather, especially if I find night shifts, this way for most of my self-keeping/sleep hours are when stores and universities and libraries are open. I am homeless because it allows me the most time to learn and enjoy the world. I am a 12 hour per day learner, and a 4 hour per day exerciser. Very active, and I'm very unhappy if I'm not. I get bored with jobs very quickly. I'll never be able to have a career. I am a great worker though with lots of skills.
Cool so you're completely fucking unbearable, you belong somewhere granola like San Diego where you can go kayaking with other unbearable tech industry types
I actually prefer my solitude, the population of San Diego and the amount of concrete is a turn off for me, but I'll probably make due.
If you go to SD just stay away from downtown, go to like romona or somewhere further out
otherwise every place you sleep will have shit and piss from other homeless who where there the day before
I also utterly do not believe in paying rent and thoroughly enjoy sleeping outside.
Go be a hobo in the keys. It never gets cold.
I live in San Diego and it's absolutely infested with people like OP so there you go. It's almost always mild enough to be outside but a lot of them find some place more secluded to live in the desert like Joshua Tree or Slab City in the winter and migrate their shitbox RVs down to the coast in the summer, parking on streets in industrial areas where they seem to get left alone as the place turns into one large encampment and shitting up the local beaches by hanging out and showering there. The politicians are stupid AF and haven't figured out that these people want to live this way but businesses have and will recognize you as a humongous liability in a city that's completely flooded with mexican migrants. Why would they choose a whiny begpacker over Guatemalans that desperately want the money and don't know what OSHA is?
Well for starters I can and have built a house start to finish with my own hands and I also have a computer science degree, so I'm not exactly useless. Also have a few wildland fire seasons under my belt. I'm going to make money perfectly fine thank you.
Not a problem there, sounds like far too many people anyways.
What is the general sentiment of drifters and hobos? In general, I'm well kept and in great physical shape and usually not super dirty so people tend to not mind me.
>What is the general sentiment of drifters and hobos?
Nobody anywhere likes hobos anymore; especially ones asking for shit when they're able bodied. But I would imagine almost anywhere is going to be better than a southern California metro area
Well anon, I argue that beggars are not hobos. In fact it's quite a distinct difference. Hobos travel and work, minus a residence.
I guess I'm technically a hobo. I've been doing the RV life for 4 years. So I make 100k a year but have no permanent address. Anyway, you'll have mosquitoes and midges in the keys, but you can fish, and Florida is one of those places where people don't really care what you do.
I guess you count as a hobo, I won't take the word away from you. It sure is a lot comfier than it was in the depression era.
t. landlord
Try suicide OP
I was a homeless person in maples for a year. Definitely do Naples. I’ll give you some advice:
There is not a lot of competition, Naples tries to keep out homeless people and if you become a nuisance or get picked up by the cops they will send you to immokolee and you will be murdered. Make sure you do not get send to that third world shithole.
Stay closer to west Naples and just use the beach as your sidewalk to go up and down. The further out east you go the more suburban it is and you stick out.
There are some really nice spots to hang out. I personally slept on the beach near the mangrove line in the shade. Washed in the ocean every day and went to the bathroom in the forest.
Nobody ever noticed me or disturbed me, if you walk down far enough they won’t even come across you. The billionaires and millionaires don’t ever go to their backyard. Stay away from the downtown beach that’s the most trafficked by cops.
The clam pass beach was my preferred spot and is only an hour and a half from some homeless shelters. Make sure you check in at a shelter regularly because the cops will ask you where you go if they pick you up and when you last went. If you don’t go regularly they will send you to immokalee. If you have a presence at a shelter they will drop you off at the shelter. Also free food and drink and medical services. Water is extremely valuable in the heat and humidity.
I liked it there a lot. I looked like a beach bum and I’m pretty young and good looking so I had a lot of sex. Lots of hot girls in Naples and they love to talk. Especially when they find out you’ve got nowhere to live. They get so sympathetic and pitying when you’re a clean good looking homeless guy. Fucked dozens of amazingly hot girls in their cars, homes, and apartments
I'm mostly interested in learning things all day every day and exercising and seeing what random shit can happen in the form of networking connections while I do interesting/odd jobs. I'm really not looking to just do nothing or be a degenerate. Also, constantly being persecuted by cops is a major turn off. I dislike feeling hunted.
>no no I'm not a bum I'm smart
>I have a compsci degree I just don't want to participate in capitalism so I act like a bum
>I don't wanna be lumped in with the stupid/druggie bums even though I behave the same way
get the fuck outta here
SD is starting to crack down on nuisance bum behavior which means you'll be relegated to places where bum camping is tolerated which means being surrounded by legitimately insane heroin addicts though unfortunately you'd get away with a lot more shit than in Florida.
Why don't you find someone who will let you live on their land in exchange for work or something or a little money. I have a friend who is living in an RV in one of the remote areas of socal. The owner grows weed there and just wants someone to watch the place. But he works also.
I really doubt I will have trouble in San Diego. I am great at stealth camping and can put down some serious miles on a bicycle in order to be out of the way.
If I did Naples I would likely travel to northern Michigan for the hotter season, but it's good to know that they've got everything I desire down there
That’s probably a good idea, some of the people at the shelters were snowbirds too. The shelters will give you money for a bus ticket and you can always get enough panhandling in a plaza for an afternoon. Honestly your main competition are illegals that don’t want to work and there’s tons of them in Naples and they get by just fine . If I spoke Spanish I would have pretended to be an illegal immigrant because they have programs to get housing and a stipend and welfare. They live like kings compared to someone like me
I'm not a beggar and have never begged you seem to not understand what the thread is about
If you like learning Naples was really great. Tons of state parks and conversation areas and most let you in for free, and not hard to get to either. Just a lot of walking and find somewhere to sleep nearby. If you don’t mind the bugs. Naples has a lot of bugs so always sleep on a canvas tarp and piss on the perimeter to keep the bugs out from the urine. And always have a lighter and a pot to boil water to drink . Like I said the heat is intense most the year and you have to stay hydrated. Walking around with water jugs is physically exhausting.
If you don’t want to spend much time walking around the state parks then the libraries are excellent in Naples. Free AC and as long as you are clean and dressed normally no one will check you for a library card to just walk in and read. I stayed in the library all day during the summer and just read and read. And find a comfy chair and sleep. And the librarians were really nice and always gave me snacks and talked to me
Another thing I want to mention is Naples is very wealthy and so if you are a well behaved and drug free homeless person the resources are there for you. And there is a small homeless population so you don’t have to worry about crowding. Just be competitive in what you have. The druggies get sent to immokalee to be killed so that makes it safer and advantageous for someone like me that just doesn’t have anywhere to live
I don't need any resources I have enough money I just work when I'm inspired to do such a thing, there is a lot of interesting types of work, but usually it's only interesting for a shorter amount of time.
Alternative: Trespass sleep overnight in most State University. 🙂
I thoroughly believe that I ought to be able to put my feet anywhere on this planet, so I have a soft spot for trespassing 🙂
In the buildings you mean?
Where would you even set up a tent?
The safety risk is just too high in a big city. Someone will come fuck with you, steal your stuff or even attack you.
Idk what stealth camping is but unless you're extremely good at finding hidden places to sleep it's not a good idea
I don't use tents, I cowboy camp and build shelters. I have 1 tarp.
no they wont the person whose front yard you camp in will be arrested for attacking you
well OP
where will you go?
yeah