how do i move and stay in thailand long term? i was reading their visa bull shit and wtf.

how do i move and stay in thailand long term?

i was reading their visa bull shit and wtf. just let me live there you dumb third world pieces of shit

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    marry a local

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you just do border runs to Vietnam every 90 days? They make it even easier if you're generous.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what are the rules around it? why isn’t it 6-12 months? god why are these third worlders so fucking retarded. do they really not want american money?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You get 60 days when you arrive at the airport. Then you go to an immigration office and they extend it another 30 days. After 30 days you take a day trip to Vietnam. There you get a "visa on arrival" to enter Vietnam. Then you wait in line again to reenter Thailand. Boom, another 60 days. The Thai immigration office is probably not what you expect and is surprisingly efficient. Staying in Thailand for years is easy as long as you aren't extremely lazy.

        As for why it isn't longer? You know the US should demand that it get better entry options than the EU passport holders but Americans don't travel overseas enough to know better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah i’m sorry but i can’t do that. thanks for the advice but i just can’t pack up and leave the country every 2-3 months.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It really doesn't get any easier anywhere else unless you have passive income. If you have dividend income, social security or VA disability then look into the category F Cyprus visa. All together, this situation in Thailand has the lowest requirements for nomads .

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              mexico is 6 months isnt it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is one of those situations like internet speeds where the words "up to" rear their ugly heads but technically maybe. Less likely these days though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As an American, you can stay in Mexico for six months (or 180 days) at a time with a "visitor's visa" — everyone over age 16 who travels to Mexico with a US passport automatically enjoys this option. You will be given this document before you arrive in the country (either via plane or at a border crossing).

                just the first result on google

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Uh huh. The first time. But you will be a "Perpetual visitor". Go look at the changes announced like a week ago for people like you. Do you not know about how butt hurt Hispanics in Mexico are getting about the "gentrification" of Mexico City?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ok if i am a digital nomad how do i go to a third world country without all this stupid bull shit? i have big american money i should just be able to stay in their shit holes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                From what I've been told Estonia is one of the better deals but I'm not a digital nomad or an American.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Third world countries want tourists who are spending money on resorts, tours, and souvenir shit. They want you as a retarded tourist who gets scammed and blows all their money. Not digital nomads who are buying cheap food, finding cheap accommodations, and basically living like locals.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why not? we would still have more money than thai people

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they don't know if you're going to be spending all that money. These countries tend to be xenophobic and see foreigners as walking piggy banks. If you're spending barely more than a local, they have no reason to want you in their country for a long time. Worst, you could be a begpacker and be a burden to their society. That's why if you actually had money and wanted to stay for a long time, they offer expensive long term visa options.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                retard logic if people were rich they wouldn’t move to thailand. no wonder their country is a mess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that so? If I was fuck you rich I'd be staying at the Melia in Koh Samui at least most of the year.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                rich people can just afford a tropical mansion close to family and not have to beg morons to live in the third world

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's the point of this exactly? You aren't rich. Thailand offers an elite visa for this exact sort of person; no begging required. You on the other hand just want to reduce your cost of living while working remotely. Why are you talking like you're some bigshot? If you've got over 300k burning a hole in your pocket, you can get a permanent residence in most places. Just go try it for a while and see if it's even worth the effort. You're mad cause these morons aren't begging you to stay but dude the Thai are so fucking nice that once you go you'll be much less frustrated with them. Or maybe you'll hate it but I doubt it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                retard logic if people were rich they wouldn’t move to thailand. no wonder their country is a mess.

                Why would they care how much money you have if most likely you're only going to rent a reasonably priced comfy condo, eat tasty reasonably priced food and enjoy reasonably priced entertainment? If you go there to achieve that cheap upper middle class lifestyle they simply aren't going to extract a lot of money from you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Permanent residence in Mexico you only need to show you have $100k in the bank, after 5 years you c an get a passport

                https://residencies.io/residency/mexico/permanent-residency/mx4

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mexicans are so fucking stupid and hypocritical it's insane. They flood over the fucking US border and ruin American cities with their illegal immigration like subhuman animals, but if you attempt to legally immigrate to Mexico they lose their absolute fucking shit that you are gentrifying their country and pricing them out of the nice parts of their big cities. Too fucking bad Pablo, your twelve cousins shit up Texas so now there's no difference to me between living in El Paso and Mexico City aside from one being way fucking cheaper! You reap what you sow you beaner prick, but that's okay you can go live in a smaller Mexican city on the outskirts of Mexico City and commute in daily for work like people in America and Canada have to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who said anything about packing up?
            You can leave your things where you live and just take some essentials for wherever you're going on the visa run.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And then you get denied re-entry and your belongings are stranded in Pattaya

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And then you get denied re-entry
                doesn't happen, thousands of people do border runs every single day in thailand
                its a big source of revenue for them and the border countries
                you have to have seriously fucked up to get denied re-entry
                its almost unheard of to be denied at land borders, since you might be stranded there and then its somebodies problem

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And then you get denied re-entry
                >doesn't happen, thousands of people do border runs every single day in thailand
                This is horseshit, almost 100% wrong. The second part is kind of true; people do of course do border runs daily. But they don’t/can’t do them forever, and they are regularly told to stop it, including but not before being denied entry.
                >its a big source of revenue for them and the border countries
                More nonsense. Ordinary tourist visas and ordinary tourist spends are a comparatively minor source of revenue. Rich tourists like those buying the 5-year “Elite” visas are a slightly larger source of revenue, investor visas larger still. But the biggest revenue is always going to come from people using non-immigrant visas, working locally, and paying taxes.
                >you have to have seriously fucked up to get denied re-entry
                Or you have to overstay or come back too many times. It’s actually quite easy.

                >its almost unheard of to be denied at land borders,
                Again, this is nearly 100% wrong.
                >since you might be stranded there and then its somebodies problem
                There’s some truth here, but they make specific provisions to avoid it.

                The video below is a little old, and this lawyer is uncharismatic and awkward, but unlike you, he knows what he’s talking about.

                In the interest of full disclosure, while I don’t know this guy myself, one of several attorneys I do know who work in Thailand does know him, so he’s technically kind of a friend of a friend. But I am not shilling for him, I just think his perspectives are be useful for people with an interest in staying in Thailand.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                …and yeah, there are lots of typos in my post above; apologies for what look like grammatical errors. I’m phoneposting while taking a shit. But people who think you can bounce back and forth across the border forever and get away with it are misinformed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For Americans, isn't it 45 days on arrival through visa exemption? Do you have to apply separately at the airport for a 60day visa? I'm not seeing it on their website.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > For Americans, isn't it 45 days on arrival through visa exemption?
            Yep, since last fall it’s been 45 days, with the option to add an additional month in-country, for the visa exemption.
            >Do you have to apply separately at the airport for a 60day visa? I'm not seeing it on their website.
            They were doing 60 day “special visas” (on arrival, maybe?) back when you still had to quarantine. Completely different from the 45-day visa exemptions, which you get automatically when showing up by air and don’t have to pay for.

            You can still buy a 60-day tourist visa, but you have to do it in advance at an embassy or consulate (or have a travel agent do it for you if you are lazy or unable to locate an embassy or consulate). Can’t be done on arrival. Can also be extended once by 30 days before you have to leave the country to repeat the process, like the visa exemption.

            Officially, however, neither of these things can be done indefinitely. In both cases, you’re only officially entitled to do it twice in a row in a given year, giving you a total of either 150 or 180 days in country in a given year. Subsequent returns are still possible at the discretion of immigration and border control officials, but the standard now appears to be that they’ll let you in a third time with a warning that they’re not doing it again. It’s also possible just to be refused entry on your third try.

            I guess some people are still getting lucky and pulling it off for a longer period, but it’s not like the 90s when people stayed for years and years just on exemptions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Officially you’re only allowed to do this twice in a row now. Enforcement is, as always, irregular and sporadic. But people absolutely do get denied entry.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >25 bucks per Viet visa with a bothersome approval process
          >land crossing so limited to twice a year
          Just get a flight to KL or something, it'll end up cheaper. AirAsia is like a bus service from DMK, they fly a gorillion times per day and you don't even have to book in advance, it's still dirt cheap.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why does everyone on this site talk about visa runs like it's a sure thing? I was in Vietnam for years and I met plenty of cocky foreigners who thought the same way only to get denied after a couple of times. Do not rely on it working long term.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Why does everyone on this site talk about visa runs like it's a sure thing?
            I think people are using bad/old information they either get from other forums or, frankly, just sort of think they heard someplace. I don’t think anyone is speaking from personal experience apart from one or two people with atypical, unusually long Covid-extension experiences.

            I was in Thailand for years with real local jobs (and as a grad student with a legitimate university affiliation doing dissertation research on non-fraudulent education visas before that), and it hasn’t been a sure thing there in literal decades. People do get lucky or slip under the radar, and there’s a small portfolio of dishonest ways to get away with staying longer than the government wants you to without a good reason, but it’s inherently precarious. And at least in Thailand’s case, enforcement has always been sporadic (even back when it was a lot easier), so there’s always been an element of chance involved in knowing when your time will run out.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will NEVER be a travelchad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not looking at your mumbling heavily pierced moron MONKEY for more than 2 seconds, you retard
      get that shit out of here

      • 2 weeks ago
        Blackanon

        >seething because i can't travel
        Anon, if you don't have a couple hundred for a passport you have bigger problems. Don't get assblasted by minorities doing what your supposedly triple-digit IQ-having self can't.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last great dodgy visa scam appears to be the year-long visas that some language schools are still offering. You will be required to actually attend a few hours of language class every week (the school signs off on your visa, so it’s not likely you can fake or skip this), and check in with immigration every month, but ever since the pandemic started it’s been possible to do this without leaving the country (you used to get shorter visas that had to be renewed abroad when going through a private language school).

    The immigration authorities have been complaining about these programs for several years now, and friends in the know in Bangkok are confident that its days are numbered. But it’s still possible at least for now.

    Otherwise, your long-term stay options are an investor visa (good for a year at a time, renewable indefinitely as long as the value of your investment portfolio never dips below ten million baht at renewal time), marrying a local, enrolling in a real school (university), or starting a business that employs Thai people.

    There’s a new ten-year visa program that’s just been rolled out, as well, but it’s extremely expensive. And there used to be a VIP 5-year visa for something like $20K that included goofy perks like concierge services and airport priority lanes, but I’m not sure if they’ve axed it yet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      education visas are now under intense scrutiny because they were used by chink mafia to stay in the country and a lot of them got busted recently

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They’ve always been used essentially dishonestly. They’ve been talking about getting rid of them for several years. The one-year thing was actually only a recent innovation from the last few years; previously private language schools could only issue visas for three months at a time, theoretically renewable for up to a year, but in practice rarely for more than 90 days. Immigration always liked it better that way because it was harder for people to work illegally.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the school signs off on your visa, so it’s not likely you can fake or skip this
      lol dunno about Thailand but in Canada you absolutely can, there are "schools" that you can buy PR from because studying in Canada = free guaranteed Permanent Resident status. So you pay them money and you don't even have to show up to classes, they just say you did. You spend your time working your job (you can work in Canada while on a studying "visa"/PR) and you've cheated the system and immigrated to Canada, couldn't be easier. It's that easy to get into a first world country so it's understandable people think it should be that easy to get into a third world one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure some of the schools are, or were, corrupt--I doubt the Chinese mafiosi abusing the system as mentioned above were actually attending many Thai classes, and Thailand is generally at least a moderately corrupt place. But Thai immigration is actually unusually stringent, in part because authorities have been unhappy for decades with the fact that the country has such a long history of attracting lowlifes, scumbags, and perverts. And education-visa abuse has been problematic since the beginning--I don't think anyone living in Thailand on a one-year education visa from a language school actually moved to Thailand to learn Thai, and they know it, so they've been talking about cracking down for some time now.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, besides being a gay, are you perhaps gnomish or a teenager fantasizing about living abroad? You give the weirdest objections in the most bitter tone which I associate with garden gnomes and teens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, but i am trans if that matters

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    elite visa 15k
    600.000 baht 5 years

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ain’t nobody paying 15k to live in thailand

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If I didn't hold all my crypto all the way down I would unironically pay 15k to live in Thailand

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ditto. i want to kill myself every-fucking-day. its so sickening. 15k wouldnt have even raised my pulse; it was less than my daily variance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        takes me 3 months to earn 15k. step up poorfag, if you're going to scrape and scrape your way into and around Thailand you might as well just be poor in your own country where you may enjoy legal representation. In thailand, no money, no honey- no money? fuck off, you're on your own

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why are there so many poorfags on this board, just go learn ukelele and become a begpacker

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/JhEdawU.jpg

          takes me 3 months to earn 15k. step up poorfag, if you're going to scrape and scrape your way into and around Thailand you might as well just be poor in your own country where you may enjoy legal representation. In thailand, no money, no honey- no money? fuck off, you're on your own

          20k over 5 years is nothing wtf

          t. in debt

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Autists can't do anything in front of a crowd

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >walk into UK from pakistan
    >stay forever
    >get job and money + have people defending for you to stay

    >go to SEA where you are a white king with wealth
    >asked to leave constantly

    Why? Do they hate money or something? It's doing your country a favor

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All countries hate immigrants taking away their jobs and land, it's just that Europeans and North Americans aren't allowed to do anything against it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this. 60 years of garden gnomes making immigrant and ~~*human rights*~~ laws, people like Frank Soskice and their shabbos goys like Ellen Fairclough

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Why? Do they hate money or something? It's doing your country a favor
      They love big money that’s going to stay in the country and contribute to local industries in a serious way. They have their own middle-class taxpayers, literal
      millions of them, to spend the kind of chump change laptop hobos are spreading around.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fucking third world retarded bugs. hope they die.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thais unironically hate white people and they were never cucked by colonialism so they actually hate you fuckers. Pakis and Indians lick the ground whites walk one because they are cucked beyond belief

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5 year golden visa is a few thousand dollars you retarded wojakposting moron.
    But of course you can't afford it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not what i read. google says it’s 20k which defeats the entire purpose.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, 20k is only a few thousand dollars, fucking poorfag. Jesus these basement dwelling incel coomers are so pathetic. This is clearly a bait thread. Mods, do your jobs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it’s 20k usd. dumb angry incel.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know. If you don't have 20k USD to drop, then why are you claiming that you have money. Since you're broke, I recommend you become an esl teacher. Then you can earn some money and stay long term through a work visa.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            20k over 5 years is nothing wtf

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              t. in debt

              If you can't manage to scrounge up 4k a year, you have way bigger problems to worry about. Moving to Thailand is the least of your worries.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              20k usd is quite a lot to any euro and will take a lot of scrounging to reach

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stayed 10 months thanks to covid extension visas. now that scheme is over I fucked of to the Philippines, 3 year visa and they speak english. comfy. fuck thailand

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's the monthly cost for reasonably comfy stay? Thailand does piss me off with this shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you want western standard, no favelas, no beggars, no dirt, it'll be slightly more expensive than TH. if you are ok exiting your western condo into dirty streets it's cheaper than TH. I dunno the costs for "reasonable comfy stay" since I make good money. staying in BGC

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just left Thailand after 6 months. Education visa is your answer. You sign up for an English course (that’s right it doesn’t have to be Thai) get a 1 year visa and there you go.

    Be warned the place is absolutely flooded with Russians. In Phuket there are more Russians than Thais. I am not even joking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but what were your accommodations for those 6 months? Where in Thailand did you stay? Looking to live there for only about 3 months, so I'm wondering what cheap options are available for short term

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice, Russians are awesome

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, those are not the cool Russians that are total bros, it's mostly liberals and other fifth column types.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just let me live there you dumb third world pieces of shit
    they don't need you or your (pitiful amount of) money anymore

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