Going to Europe next week by myself. I'm 22 and I've only done one trip by myself before, and it was somewhat lonely mostly, I think, because I don't drink or stay in hostels.
I feel I'm missing out on a massive part of the travel experience, but I'm not willing to touch a drop of alcohol, ever, nor sleep in a common pen like a farm animal eating from a trough and shitting in a latrine, being potentially surrounded by noisy, smelly and/or drunk fucking retards.
Does anyone have any good ways of meeting locals or other travellers that doesn't involve drinking or going to a hostel?
It isn't. I would woop their asses in chess so badly it wouldn't be funny. I won a chess tournament at 6 or 7 but the 12 year old cheated and the adult referee was nowhere around. Most people I play in chess are so bad it isn't funny. The only one that can keep up with me is my dad. Apart from that I've never lost an in person game against a stranger. I should have the right to do anything I want if I beat you. I should be able to take your wife, your house, your car if I want. I proved I'm more intelligent than you. I could also beat them physically due to anabolic steroid use and a decade at the gym.
Maybe join a tour group?
I knew someone who joined some kind of tour group while in Japan. It was one explicitly aimed at younger travellers and had a lot of hiking involved.
I have no idea what it was or how he found it but I think those things are out there, probably aimed at people like yourself.
Thanks, I might see if I can find something similar
Interpals sounds kinda faggy. Has anyone had any good experiences?
You sound like some who takes himself too serious and thinks he is better than others
If you desire to socialize you better drop that attitude.
I am better than everyone retard
Germany, Austria, Hungary and Czech for about three weeks
> posts on the the asshole of the internet
> "im better than everyone else"
yeah sure anon, we believe you [head pats]
enjoy being alone
Not only are you a boring fucker who like some sort of retarded weeb doesn't drink but you chose to combine that with a trip to Europe to the 3 countries that are notorious for having the biggest drink cultures. Austria, Germany and Czech are the biggest beer producers and consumers, they think people who doesn't drink are massive fags (not wrong) and they're also places that are full of people who travel for stag dos so full of drunk people.
You are literally going to have the worst holiday ever.
you sound like a massive gay. got all pissy because i insulted alcohol.
Honestly the Alcohol isn't a problem I chilled with people that didn't drink. but you gotta fix the attitude man
Have a drink and make a friend you boring fucker
>Ingest poison and make a friend you boring fucker.
Not OP, but this sounds awful.
calm down gay you sound like some cringy 13 year old that had his first beer and thinks getting drunk is the coolest thing ever
I'm 27 and I still think that getting drunk is the coolest thing ever
That post is a literal proof that you are still underage
Name a cooler thing than getting drunk
Not getting drunk
Cringe. Only religious schizos and people obsessed with health due to OCD like OP would say that
>not getting drunk = religious
We got a literal teenager here mods.
True and honest reply.
Central and Northern Europe thinks people who doesn't drink are friendless pussies, which OP admittedly sounds like.
T. A Dane
Eastern Europe Anon here, if you don't drink here excessively it's seen as kinda cool because you're not an alcoholic like 90% of everyone else but if you never ever drink, you're more gay than the local gay getting rammed 50 times in a night.
based OP btfo hope he cries in a hotel room alone
This post hits the nail on the head.
Culture here is heavily centralised around alkohol consumption.
It also doesn't help that the legal drinking age for beer and wine is 16, hard liquours are 18.
You can of course have a good time without drinking here, but people will think you are odd if you drink no alc at all.
based and truepilled
Hostels normally have private rooms too. Arrange to meet people on interpals and the like
You sound incredibly boring and autistic
sleep in hotel, during the day go to hostel loby/bar to meet people
private room in hostel then socialize with people in the common areas or join group tours. A friend found his wife during a group tour of commie sites in Berlin. Hiking groups are great as well. Basically anything that has you doing an activity with other people. Getting shitfaced drunk in night clubs is not the only thing you can do for fun
where in Europe will you be going and for how long?
i dont drink either and love travelling alone.
i meet most people at concerts, but i do smoke tho and that leads to easy conversations. sadly socializing cause of narcotics is a really easy way to getting to know people
I find it hard too. Im getting too old to drink regularly and the hostel thing is just getting dumb at this point. Dating apps are sad and it feels hopeless. The problem Ive found is that its really a numbers game. If I meet 30 people, I'll dislike 3-5, 20 will be nice enough but forgettable, and 3-5 will become friends for awhile until we part ways. In my home country I'll meet 30 people in 5 years but at a hostel I can meet them much faster. Theres just nowhere to meet people where its normal to be alone.
This found this on my last trip at 35, dating interest drying up in me, pubs where you meet people packed full of people socialiasing with other people I effectively end up having give up my sleep and compromise everything to stay at a hostel or literally walk around a ghost for 6 weeks (which I did) I imagine it'll get worse from here, I am 35.
>Walking around like a ghost
34 yo anon here. I'm taking a trip to Europe in October and can easily envision this happening. I am determined to not be a mopey POS though - at the least I will bang a whore or two
I don't know why I'm replying to obvious bait, but why does le superior intellectual gentleman like yourself even want to meet other people? You're clearly better than the rest of us so what could we have to offer you?
>I feel I'm missing out on a massive part of the travel experience, but I'm not willing to touch a drop of alcohol, ever, nor sleep in a common pen like a farm animal eating from a trough and shitting in a latrine, being potentially surrounded by noisy, smelly and/or drunk fucking retards.
You sound like a massive gay
Maybe if you stopped spending all your time on a uzbek horse breeding forum and went outside you'd realise i'm only being half-serious.
have sex incel.
Scuba diving certification. You'll meet tourists, locals. In my experience, it usually ends up in bars with other divers.
Most sport will work, especially if they require gear (meaning a central place where people meet): golfing, kayaking etc.
You can also choose do do various trainings in class: pottery, drawing wathever.
A learning setting is perfect to meet people. And every town offers small classes of this and that, especially during summer.
Where do you usually find group tours? Just google "City name"+Group tour?
Every city (mid sized and +) has a tourism bureau/office/agency. Just give them a call, or check their page.
tripadvisor app. Look for a landmark you want to see and they'll shill tours that include it
>How to meet people
>Going to Europe
do what rick steves does , hire a guide to show you around maybe they will like you enough to be your real friend
download couchsurfing and use hangouts its great in the bigger cities
i met good friends that I'm still in contact with on a bus when I heard them speaking with an australian accent and on a free walking tour. try that idk
Are you a muslim or what?
I just care about my health
Is there any way to filter tour groups by type of people? I prefer to be with non-drinking women my age, or younger.
1. you can get a private room in a hostel but at 22 I think you're being extremely precious about it.
2. You can still go to a bar in a hostel even if you don't stay there and you don't have to drink.
3. If you think anyone your age drinking together to have a good time are retards I don't think you'll have much luck making friends anywhere in general.
How the fuck are you supposed to start a conversation with people here? It's loud, everyone is with friends. If you're alone you're seen as that creepy guy.
Can I just order a drink and then start talking with strangers?
Hostels and Pub crawls
The problem is thet when people are with friends they don't care about meeting new people most of the time. Especially if you are shit at socializing. You gotta meet people who are also alone and looking for people to hang with.
>You gotta meet people who are also alone and looking for people to hang with
But how often do you actually see that? I'm sure it's a bit more common in Europe but in America people very rarely go to bars alone, girls almost not at all.
1. Don't go to bar like pic related
And strike up a conversation with the bartender, it's their job to be good conversationalists. Sometimes random people will join in too and you have yourself a small group
If you are attractive it's literally impossible to be seen as creepy
For me it worked to join pub crawls in Hong Kong and Japan. Going on day tours is also a good idea, did this in Italy, even during the middle of a pandemic I was able to meet a great guy from South Africa.
The most efficient way though probably still is the hostel, try to find a private room and participate in daily activities.
>stop being autistic
>figure out you can order non-alcoholic drinks or even water at bars without anyone giving a shit
>talk to every person that looks free, and try to figure out in 15 minutes if they are interesting and decide to move on or not
>rinse and repeat
if you've made it to 22 as a non-drinker in western society and still haven't developed an alternative avenue to meeting people you are probably just fucked, and given that you're doing it to nurture some sort of masturbatory adolescent delusion that you're an iconoclast who is above the masses as well, i think you've earned your isolation
Not OP, but I'm 30 and non drinker. No friends. Live in the netherlands.
I see pictures like this and I get anxiety. Yes I'm autistic.
Hostels, tours, Airbnb tours, couch surfing, language exchange, tinder. There. You have to be autistic to not meet anyone but socialising on holiday is much easier for chads and social creatures.
society literally revolves around drinking
wanna get laid?
want that job promotion?
you need to drink
hang out with muslims i guess at the mosque
So how did your shitty trip go OP?
Play any sports? Playing pick up games with locals is a fun time. Ive done it in Barcelona, Stockholm and Fort William.
your personality is the problem not your abstinence or accommodation preferences