I just got my passport and am planning a trip to Europe, tell me what you guys think of my rough itinerary so far.

I just got my passport and am planning a trip to Europe, tell me what you guys think of my rough itinerary so far.
>Fly into London (I know it gets shit on but there’s a lot of history here with my family specifically and I’d like to visit some of our monuments and stuff)
>Fly from London to Amsterdam (not even sure what exactly there is to do here beyond shrooms and hit the RLD, but it looks like fun)
>Train from Amsterdam to Berlin (primarily interested in WW2 history, might buy a metal detector while I’m there and hit some battlefields or other sites)
>Train from Berlin to Salzburg (just seems beautiful, like it’s from a postcard)
>Train from Salzburg to Split
>Bus from Split to Dubrovnik (because I’m a game of thrones gay, which got me interested in the city but the more I look into it, the more it seems worth a visit)
>Fly from Dubrovnik to Rome
>Rome to home

Are there any cities along the way of this route that are worth checking out? Underrated/overrated things in the cities listed? Any advice on this route in general? Things/places to avoid, etc?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like a decent itinerary, but seems like you're skipping a lot of things along the way and only stopping in the big cities. Why not go via Munchen or Prague to Salzburg for example? From Salzburg to Split is a long way so you probably should at least stop in Ljubljana. How much time did you plan for this?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      A month - a month And a half. I don’t have any specific timeframe, but my budget is somewhere between 7-8k all things considered.
      I plan on staying primarily in hostels, as meeting new people/socializing is one of my biggest drives for doing this

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Munchen
      I'd like to take this opportunity to raise awareness for the Walhalla just outside of Regensburg. Nürnberg/Nuremberg is also good.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walhalla_(memorial)

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Note taken, thank you for your contribution anon

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Only going to big cities
    Might as well go to disneyworld gay

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here’s your RT badge gay
      why don’t you just tell OP what shitty little village he should go to instead of whining

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >yeah man, Berlin is way too mainstream for me
      *tips fedora

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hey guys, I’m visiting the U.S. and want to Visit NYC, any advice?
      >pfft, only going to big cities gay? You should go somewhere like Albuquerque or Fresno

      Seems like a decent itinerary, but seems like you're skipping a lot of things along the way and only stopping in the big cities. Why not go via Munchen or Prague to Salzburg for example? From Salzburg to Split is a long way so you probably should at least stop in Ljubljana. How much time did you plan for this?

      this anon has good advice

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you like culture/arcitecture, make sure to not miss Dresden, super underrated. Tons and tons of beautiful baroque building, beautiful nature around it, pretty cheap and even has decentish nightlife in Neustadt

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>Fly into London
    Good. There is stuff to see here, just research in advance.

    >>Fly from London to Amsterdam
    Amsterdam is an incredible city, very pretty and some very high quality museums. It has a feel you don't really get anywhere else. I wouldn't really recommend eat a lot of truffles or smoking at the start of a longer trip though. What dfo you gain by it? Anyway, Amsterdam second is also a good choice.

    from Amsterdam to Berlin
    from Berlin to Salzburg
    This doesn't make sense. There's not much left of ww2 in Berlin unless you want to visit Seelow heights or whatever. I'd rather suggest you go through Netherlands to Maastricht, and you can continue to Aachen/Eupen/Liege and Cologne. Do your research and there is ton of stuff to see in the area and between destinations. If you really want ww2 history you could continue to Saarbrucken and the massive Saar metal foundry (Völklingen Ironworks) that got turned into a park, and then cross into france for the maginot line and end up in Strasbourg which is great by itself, and then take the train to Munich and then Salzburg. Otherwise you could fly from Cologne to Munich, and resume your trip. I'd say skip Berlin, save it for another time. I'd probably also drop Rome, you'd need a week there to see the city. Maybe take the train from Salzburg to Vienna and head home from there?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

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      thanks for the input my friend. I was huge into this stuff a few years ago, had it all planned out but then I got with my gf and kind of put it to the side. Since then I’ve forgotten most of the important landmarks but she just broke up with me a couple of weeks ago so now I’m planning it again, this info is great. it seems a lot of the sites I want to see are in Nuremberg anyways (the zeppelenfeld and kongresshalle especially)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

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      thanks for the input my friend. I was huge into this stuff a few years ago, had it all planned out but then I got with my gf and kind of put it to the side. Since then I’ve forgotten most of the important landmarks but she just broke up with me a couple of weeks ago so now I’m planning it again, this info is great. it seems a lot of the sites I want to see are in Nuremberg anyways (the zeppelenfeld and kongresshalle especially)

      also, I’m from California so the weed shit doesn’t really make a difference to me, I barely ever partake and I’m not a psychedelics guy. I was mainly a coke guy but I’ve been clean now for a few years now.
      It just seems like a cool place that, since I’m in the area, I shouldn’t miss. I’ll have to do more research on it to see exactly what there is that I want to see. Maybe I’ll rent a house boat.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Came here to make the exact same recommendations, skip berlin (it's great but more cold war stuff and out of your way) and add in Strasbourg and Munich. And yeah Rome needs time, Budapest might be a good end.

      Also get the channel tunnel train trip if you can, experience in itself and nothing beats arriving in the middle of a city.

      There's plenty of day trips to smaller towns around all these cities so just look them up.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go by train from London to Amsterdam. Nice and relaxing compared to flying. Also get to scratch the Chunnel off a list.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Time of year always makes a difference to recommendations. Most places are cool to see year round but it can.
    I have no problem with visiting cities - but some of my favorite places have been outside of cities or are mid to small cities.
    From London public transport very expensive - 3 classic tourist cities within day trip reach Bath, Cambridge, Oxford (nearby Blenheim Palace) . York less than 2 hours. Other possibilities Salisbury (near stonehenge), Winchester, Canterbury. Not so much famous sights but popular with the alternative lifestyles Bristol and Brighton are reachable.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Berlin (primarily interested in WW2 history, might buy a metal detector while I’m there and hit some battlefields or other sites)
    yeah good luck with that. let us know what german prisons are like

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      idkwym
      there's tons of videos on youtube of people metal detecting in Germany and France.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lot of history here with my family
        You mean family from some generations ago? I highly suggest doing some research and find out where in which apartment/house your anchestors were living. I did the same with my family in Silesia (now Poland). Stood infront of the building and it was a spooky feeling. Really weird but in a good way. Almost as if I got connected with them.

        Not gonna give you tips on places because there are so many good suggestions already in this thread. Also your plan is already good. But let me give you some food tips for some of your places:
        >Berlin
        In Berlin of course Kebap and Currywurst for example Curry36. If you skip Munich you may wanna check the Hofbräuhaus copycat in Berlin.

        >Salzburg
        Eat the original Mozartkugel. You can only eat them there. Delicious small snack. Also Bosna.

        >If you go to Vienna
        Würstelstand Leo (Käsekrainer plate) and Wiener Schnitzel

        >Rome
        Def eat some good original Carbonara made with pork cheek.

        In Germany you need a permission from the land owner (usually the state/local community). If you find something you need to document it and may hand it over for a museum. I could imagine that you get into trouble if you try to smuggle some swastika badges that you found.. but I don't know for sure

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hijacking OP's thread for my own Europe question
    I want to develop an itinerary that includes some smaller towns but I'm having a hard time finding a good website with suggested places. Most websites I use for research only focus on big cities - the best I've found so far is wikivoyage.
    Any suggested resources for my planning?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i know all the smaller towns in europe
      where u wana go?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know all of them?
        I'm mainly interested in Italy, France and Germany - what's the scoop

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          i assume you may cross the major destinations and want to sprinkle in some variety
          for example
          If you went Rome
          castelli romani (roman castles - hillside towns just outside rome) - Ariccia(town access by viaduct road), Frascati, nemi(above crater lake) Castelgandolfo (popes spend summer here), calcata-tiny hilltop town, tivoli - near rome historical villas and ruins, pitigliano - yet another medieval hilltop town. spoleto - historical bridge to isolated fortress

          If you went florence (fiesole suburb if cool)
          the big secondary stops Siena, Lucca, San gimignano (many medieval defensive towers - cities used to be full of these, bologna has famous leaning towers too)
          smaller places: pienza, pistoia, cortona, volterra, Montepulciano
          look into garfagnana region - barga town

          from rome or florence there is much of central italy you could get to - orvieto- hill town church and well, assisi -grand monestary religious destination, viterbo- medieval pope seat, perugia - another medeival umbrian town. castelluccio - flower valley. urbino (long held out as a city state like san marino), saturnia - hot springs

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      when you have a region you are interested in, search things like:
      day trips from x big city
      underrated places/hidden gems (they aren't actually in the day of the internet but its not like saying florence)
      best towns/villages in x region/province
      most beautiful villages in x country - france and italy have official ranking of most beautiful villages in the country that also have wikipedia pages.. however - there are nice towns or villages i've seen that id want to visit that are not on the list.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Borghi_pi%C3%B9_belli_d%27Italia
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Plus_Beaux_Villages_de_France
      another thing to do is just pic a region you know to be beautiful and look at what are the major destinations in that area - kind of similar to what i've already said but it could be different than saying region of tuscany vs province of siena vs val d'orcia
      which reminds me you can look up world heritage sites - some are specific buildings but some are just regions like val d'orcia
      if you have an idea of a country you're interested in, or a cuisine you like you can look for local delicacies and are they found everywhere or is there a specific place of origin?
      for food+drink (more so wine but also whiskey) you can find what the best places to visit are in a region where that product is made.
      then with that i also can search landmarks - best ancient roman ruins in area, best castles/forts in area, best bridges, forests, lakes, museums
      just narrow down your googling. also you can use google maps over the region you're passing for ruins castles forts and other random stuff you might see something.
      also youtube all of this too

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i assume you may cross the major destinations and want to sprinkle in some variety
        for example
        If you went Rome
        castelli romani (roman castles - hillside towns just outside rome) - Ariccia(town access by viaduct road), Frascati, nemi(above crater lake) Castelgandolfo (popes spend summer here), calcata-tiny hilltop town, tivoli - near rome historical villas and ruins, pitigliano - yet another medieval hilltop town. spoleto - historical bridge to isolated fortress

        If you went florence (fiesole suburb if cool)
        the big secondary stops Siena, Lucca, San gimignano (many medieval defensive towers - cities used to be full of these, bologna has famous leaning towers too)
        smaller places: pienza, pistoia, cortona, volterra, Montepulciano
        look into garfagnana region - barga town

        from rome or florence there is much of central italy you could get to - orvieto- hill town church and well, assisi -grand monestary religious destination, viterbo- medieval pope seat, perugia - another medeival umbrian town. castelluccio - flower valley. urbino (long held out as a city state like san marino), saturnia - hot springs

        Very useful, thank you

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          another thing to search for inspiration is most beautiful or scenic roadtrips/train journeys of the region, you dont need to do it all but could lead to a place you didnt know about.

          if venice is on your route
          the line of smaller cities from padua (galileo anatomy theatre at the uni, euganean hills is a nice area SW of padova - maybe some witch folklore? due to volcanic origin there are thermal springs nearby like spa town abano terme) to vicenza (rumored to eat cats, famous venetian architect palladio did lots of work here) to verona (intact roman theatre, chill riverside bars, nice to wander the city walls turn into public parks) is quite nice - lots of historic architecture. Treviso is another canal city to a lesser extent, it is also one of the provinces prosecco comes from (also from valdobbiadene) . Bassano Del Grappa has a lovely bridge, also claims the drink Grappa (im not a fan). Asolo is a nice town. There are a few random walled towns in central veneto but i duno if im into them.
          Getting into the mountain regions directly north from venice there is Belluno, and Cortino D'ampezzo - hike in summer, ski in winter, this region starts to have a lot of ruined fortifications in the mountains as it is a border like Forte Tre Sassi has ww1 alpine soldier museum.
          Going up into trentino region dolomites there is the non italian part with ortisei, bressanone, vipiteno. Near this area is val gardena - amazing drive. Hikes like puez odle, or Tre Cime di Lavaredo.
          Bolzano is small city of this area i love it - has otzi iceman museum (and archeology).
          Trento - another chill small city, has nice castle, close between mountains and the lake.
          Lake garda beautiful Sirmione, Peschiera Del Garda(touristy - gardaland neaby, it is a venetian fort on water)
          Friuli region is kind of overlooked in italy, lots of nice rural driving there. Cividale del Friuli looks cool, Palmanova is a star fort town. San Daniele is another region that makes prosciutto its not just Parma.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            forgot to say near venice to padua is riviera del brenta - a river lined with rich Palladian mansions.
            also around garda
            Bardalino is a nice town, but also a spa/wine area.
            Malcesine is a cool town - has a ski lift up to monte baldo. Paragliding is popular here
            Riva Del Garda at north end, Arco just north of that.
            Limone sul Garda - nice town, noted for long life genetics.. and lemons? - from there is strada della forra a famed gorge road, looks beautiful but maybe annoying to drive it gives access to Tremosine area, a lot of clifftop towns overlooking the lake.
            There probably much more around the lake that could be cool.
            Brescia is a smaller city more industrial but has an old town centre, not too typical tourist visit.
            South of Garda is Mantua rich from gonzaga renaissance family. Nearby complex of sabbioneta .
            Cremona famous for violins. Piacenza nice town centre. Crema recently famous for that one gay twink grooming movie. Pavia famos bridge, has some niche museums at uni. Bergamo - the old town is very nice.
            Italian Northern lakes region is great in general there is the big 3, of the lesser ones, Iseo has a nice island village monte isola.
            Como the most famous lake there is the city of como, bellagio, varenna, but there are "hidden" gems here, Nesso for example. Or Santa Maria Rezzonico (rezzonico on its own is a famous house in venice).
            Nearby swiss area north of lake lugano - Ticino area, Lugano and Locarno are the italian swiss towns, but a beautiful rural area is called Lavertezzo and Verzasca valley - nice bridge from a village, and crystal clear river people swim in many clickbait vidoes call it maldives of milan or something.
            Lake maggiore, Stresa is the most famous town, there are ski lifts to take you up a mountain there. Other side of lake a cool church Santa Caterina del Sasso. From Verbania into the mountains is river Torrente San Bernardino - duno how to access
            Lake Orta is anoher lesser lake - orta san giulio the most famous town.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              france there is probably even more little picturesque villages than italy but lots inbetween that and paris.
              if you went Paris, there is a ring around it 1-2 hour drive each city has a grand cathedral. Likes of chartres, amiens, riems, troyes, rouen, beauvis, orleans. of course if you kept expanding the radius you'd find more.
              Versailles is not the only palace in greater paris - fontainebleau
              Giverny is very popular to take instagram photos and tell everyone how much Monet has always been one of your favorite artists.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            forgot to say near venice to padua is riviera del brenta - a river lined with rich Palladian mansions.
            also around garda
            Bardalino is a nice town, but also a spa/wine area.
            Malcesine is a cool town - has a ski lift up to monte baldo. Paragliding is popular here
            Riva Del Garda at north end, Arco just north of that.
            Limone sul Garda - nice town, noted for long life genetics.. and lemons? - from there is strada della forra a famed gorge road, looks beautiful but maybe annoying to drive it gives access to Tremosine area, a lot of clifftop towns overlooking the lake.
            There probably much more around the lake that could be cool.
            Brescia is a smaller city more industrial but has an old town centre, not too typical tourist visit.
            South of Garda is Mantua rich from gonzaga renaissance family. Nearby complex of sabbioneta .
            Cremona famous for violins. Piacenza nice town centre. Crema recently famous for that one gay twink grooming movie. Pavia famos bridge, has some niche museums at uni. Bergamo - the old town is very nice.
            Italian Northern lakes region is great in general there is the big 3, of the lesser ones, Iseo has a nice island village monte isola.
            Como the most famous lake there is the city of como, bellagio, varenna, but there are "hidden" gems here, Nesso for example. Or Santa Maria Rezzonico (rezzonico on its own is a famous house in venice).
            Nearby swiss area north of lake lugano - Ticino area, Lugano and Locarno are the italian swiss towns, but a beautiful rural area is called Lavertezzo and Verzasca valley - nice bridge from a village, and crystal clear river people swim in many clickbait vidoes call it maldives of milan or something.
            Lake maggiore, Stresa is the most famous town, there are ski lifts to take you up a mountain there. Other side of lake a cool church Santa Caterina del Sasso. From Verbania into the mountains is river Torrente San Bernardino - duno how to access
            Lake Orta is anoher lesser lake - orta san giulio the most famous town.

            france there is probably even more little picturesque villages than italy but lots inbetween that and paris.
            if you went Paris, there is a ring around it 1-2 hour drive each city has a grand cathedral. Likes of chartres, amiens, riems, troyes, rouen, beauvis, orleans. of course if you kept expanding the radius you'd find more.
            Versailles is not the only palace in greater paris - fontainebleau
            Giverny is very popular to take instagram photos and tell everyone how much Monet has always been one of your favorite artists.

            Thank you based anon

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              dordogne valley would be very beautiful.
              rocamadour is the most famous from a postcard, but aso places like Beynac-et-Cazenac, Domme. there are a dozen towns i'd consider if i had the time.
              There are tons of random towns and villages in this "empty" part of france I guess driveable from airports of limoges(flights for bongs), bordeaux, toulouse
              for ex Cordes-sur-Ciel hill town
              Albi - if you are a niche history nerd, learn abou Cathar Crusades- a divergent religious group centered here was put down, large church built to establish dominance.
              Conques - valley forest town
              Saint-Cirq-Lapopie cliff town above Lot river
              Najac - village on a hill ridge leading to medieval castle
              Peyre - town built into cliff face. also near Giant modern viaduct du millau
              figeac - nice river twon
              Brousse-le-Château - castle town overlooking river

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You might be thinking of French Riviera and going from Monaco to Nice (the 3 corniche roads are very beautiful to drive), St Tropez, Cannes, Marseille - some people are interested some people aren't.
                Whatever you think of marseille the city - south of it is some costal mountain region that is beautiful Calanques of Marseille.
                City of Menton next to italian border is like a cross between cultures.
                Eze is hilltop town right along this route.
                Between Nice and Cannes there are some cool hill towns. Grasse, Le Bar sur Loup, Tourrettes sur Loup, St Paul de Vence. Or others nearby ex Peillon, Saorge
                Verdon Gorge is popular inland area.
                Closer to the Rhone river are cities that have some good historical sites.
                Avignon - french pope, bridge with the song about it
                Nimes - roman colosseum, temple, nearby aquaduct
                Arles - roman amphitheatre
                Orange - roman threatre
                Aix En Provence - if you're into artist history
                Camargue national park
                Further out in provence some other cool towns- Gordes, Roussillon, Saignon, Valensole, Simiane-la-Rotonde, Les Beaux de Provence, Uzès, Lourmarin, Oppède le Vieux, Eygalières
                popular photo Abbaye Notre-Dame de Sénanque

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bus from Split to Dubrovnik
    You could also consider taking a ferry for that leg

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >intercity flights
    >train trips
    >bus
    Huh sounds boring as fuck

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What would you rather me do, hitchhike like some homeless fag?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      a eurail pass is far cheaper than renting a car/insurance/gas/etc. trains are comfy too.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Flying can be cheaper than eurail.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    from Berlin to Salzburg (just seems beautiful, like it’s from a postcard)
    I can tell you that Salzburg is a great time. I took a quaint tour of the Sound of Music locations with my girlfriend and it was just a great time. Rome, too. I generally loathe cities but they're just a blast.

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