I want to move to Argentina. Where do you start? What do you need? Posted on September 8, 2022 by Anonymous I want to move to Argentina. Where do you start? What do you need?
I will move.
fpbp. I don't want to generalize ALL Argentinians, but they truly seem like a low IQ populace. Also:
>Thread up since September
Goddamn this board is slow.
The people that work are generally the best of the bunch, you are probably basing your view of the country from all the poor immigrants that get paid to vote certain people to keep them in power.
go to paraguay instead
easy permanent residency
economy works fine, currency hasn't collapsed and there isn't hyperinflation
>easy permanent residency
Yes, but for $5000 deposit. I don't have that much just to drop. Paraguay actually is on my top 5 list to escape
If you are a conservative first worlder trying to "escape" what you usually call "globohomo", then Paraguay is a good, cheap option. Argentina might be good but only if you choose a province. The farthest from the capital, the better. Buenos Aires has the most insane ultra mega batshit crazy women in Latin America, BY FAR.
That being said, you will probably need a remote job if you don't want to be miserable. Argentina is collapsing nowadays, and Paraguay is an informal state run by a smuggler elite, that is of course turning it's operations to drug distribution. There are barely any high paying jobs, and you will need a lot of personal connections in order to get one of those. That' the Latin American culture.
So, you can indeed get a comfy cheap house there in places where pride month is not celebrated every other month, make a few friends, enjoy asado and vino and not be bothered for your opinions, but only if you learn to code.
OP here, thanks for your opinion. I had considered Paraguay, but it's too hot and too humid for my taste, I don't like tropical climates. Otherwise I wouldn't doubt to move there.
How about Uruguay? Honestly, I like Argentina because it's bigger, lots of space and you can easily build your own thing with ease.
Look into the southern Argentinian provinces of Neuquen, Rio Black, Chubut and Santa Cruz. It's a gigantic territory the size of the US West Coast (California + Oregon + Washington), except that there's almost no people there. A population of about 2.5 million in total. You can completely disappear there and forget about the rest of the world. But it's bring your own girl and bring your own job.
>Look into the southern Argentinian provinces of Neuquen, Rio Black, Chubut and Santa Cruz. It's a gigantic territory the size of the US West Coast (California + Oregon + Washington), except that there's almost no people there. A population of about 2.5 million in total. You can completely disappear there and forget about the rest of the world. But it's bring your own girl and bring your own job.
Except that the Atlantic coast of Argentina is literally a flat, uniform desert. By contrast, the west coast of the US is mountainous, rugged, and forested. They are very different geographies like water and cooking oil. They don't even have similar climates. There is no comparison other than in size, although I am not so sure about the latter
>There is no comparison other than in size
>How about Uruguay? Honestly, I like Argentina because it's bigger, lots of space and you can easily build your own thing with ease.
Uruguay has lots of space. It is sparsely populated. Way more developed than Paraguay, and a much better stable economy than Argentina. The more "european" country in Latam. Good infrastructure will allow you to cross the country in 8 hours, and it has the best health care service in the region by far.
However, it is becoming fairly unsafe. Montevideo is full of aggressive homeless beggars, and the biggest con is that it is mind blowingly expensive. Moreover, it's kind of boring, and politically, it's full globohomo. If you dtay away from the capital you might isolate yourself, but you will probably experience a slow death jy boredom.
>full of aggressive homeless beggars
don't be a pussy, I've been living here for 10 years and haven't been robbed once. Those morons can tell if you are afraid of them. It is boring as shit though, there isn't a blander people than Uruguayans
t. delusional Uruguayan.
of course you can cross the country in 8 hours because it's relatively small and flat. It's not way more developed than Paraguay or any other country of Latam. Uruguay is comparable to Croatia (and probably Croatia is more developed and wealthier), whereas countries like Paraguay can be compared to Serbia (and Paraguay is developing and growing much faster).
and how's Urgay healthcare system better than any of LatAm? public healthcare has the same problems and in other countries. Private healthcare and private hospitals in Brazil, Mexico, Chile or Colombia are the best ranked ones in the region.
there is a reason so many people talks about Uruguay but ultimately very few people emigrate there. Small economy, expensive, not that developed or sophisticated economy, serious crime issues, etc.
>serious crime issues
that's bullshit, we have a bunch of morons asking for change but you won't get robbed if you are smart/not a pussy and avoiding dangerous areas is easy as fuck
I felt more safe in Uruguay than Argentina.
Although Argentina has a subtropical climate and is very hot, especially Buenos Aires (You will hate "hot rains" with high humidity)
If you want temperate climates and spectacular landscapes, go to Chile... you will also have snow in your face in winter, but stay away from the center of the capital.
Sure the landscape and climate are much better, but Santiago is a very ugly city compared to Buenos Aires.
Plus Chilean Spanish is incomprehensible
>but it's too hot and too humid for my taste, I don't like tropical climates
only on summers, from April-May until November it was a temperate clime (ranging from 25°C to 0°C)
>it was a temperate clime
it has a temperate climate*
Clime and climate are basically synonyms in english lol
> Buenos Aires has the most insane ultra mega batshit crazy women in Latin America, BY FAR.
They’re probably alright by American standards. I’m in Spain and women here aren’t that bad and are friendly, way more feminine than American shebeasts and pretty easy. I’d imagine argie women aren’t too far off. The performatibe woke shit can get annoying though but compared to America it’s not that bad, it’s just more pervasive in their institutions for some reason
you are tripping mate, Argentina hast the most crazy bitches ever stop talking about shit you dont know
Be careful. In Spain any hoe can get your ass jailed because, as a male, you don´t have same rights in the court of law.
And yes, if they chimp out they can sue your ass for a one night stand.
How common is this in actuality tho? I heard it’s just a bunch of roastoid Karen’s that run the entire government and literally everyone hates them. Most Spanish chicks were pretty friendly and acted like women and didn’t seem to overtly hate men like here in the US
It doesn't matter how many you idiot. You are legally defenseless. It only takes 1 chick to ruin your life.
What are some other countries to escape the “globohomo”? I’d make a thread but I know the gay more will delete it. I’ve been checking out Georgia and armenia, and Latin America as well
>Georgia and Armenia
Why? Wouldn't be going just to Russia better?
I am actually armenian and have been to armenia but I’d be like Paulie walnuts in Italy, pretty Americanized speak the language and would make things a bit easier with family there but again I’m open to Georgia too as it’s close enough. Russia seems to hard to integrate into and wouldn’t want to live there. Wouldn’t mind Latin America but I also want somewhere safe lol.
Someone suggested Paraguay gives you one for 5,000, not bad if you are not a poorfag
Damn, Paraguayans are lucky to live there.
Kek didn’t mean it like that. It’s probably a dhithole if you are a native obviously
obviously you either need a lot of savings in usd, or a remote job
if you live like a local with a local job is a shithole
i´m sure am but only because my family is wealthy
>What are some other countries to escape the “globohomo”?
There are many. Problem is that many will not allow you to become a resident, and those who will, are failed states without electricity.
imagine being such a schizo loser incel that you want to escape like a rat to some third world shithole to escape some boogeyman you read about on the neonazi section of an anime website. touch grass you fucking gays.
Go back to 4chan, garden gnomebot.
>I can't leave so you shouldn't be able to either
kek, seethe in your rotting failed society
You ain't gonna like it schizo-gringo.
Georgia is for Christians and not your gay kind where the women still fuck everyone.
Such is life
>run by a smuggler elite,
Exolain more please
Any remote job recommendations for a shitty degree?
You could work as a professional larper on sighsee
Why would you get a shitty degree? Why not get a good degree or skill now?
I got discouraged with all the gayry in school and was really depressed, so I just took the easiest major to get it done with. I didn't pay for it, so im not too broken up about it, but I still dont know what to do with myself. It just seems like nothings worth doing anymore.
Quit being a loser and expecting everything to be handed to you
I don’t want anything though. That’s the problem
Oh, I recall you saying you want a remote job
Just looking for options to try out. Why do you want to fight so badly?
Can someone seriously answer me how I can easily use my useless degree to make alot of money I just want to move to another country and get a livable wage and save up
Are you falseflagging as me to make me sound like a gay lol I’m not looking for a lot of money. Just enough to sustain myself. And I’m looking for ideas on top of doing my own research, not a handout
Deal drugs in argentina
I don't want to.
probably look into certifications for devops. Thats the easiest way to get into IT.
Get a shitty job for 2 years and then move up to good company. Lots of remote options for that position.
No offense anon but if you don’t have 5k to drop easily you probably shouldn’t be looking to move to the 3rd world
the third world is retarded for trying to command that much for a deposit and it's way more now. As a general rule of thumb these deposits are getting higher but I am of the belief they'll all be dropped in a few years and be replaced with incentives to encourage people to come - third world currencies depend on it.
They're not looking for retarded young begpacker coomers to come drive up local prices. They want businessmen with actual capital to invest in the country, to give people jobs. Raising the deposit amount serves as a filter. It's rough, but that's the way it is. I say this as a begpacker coomer myself.
They got rid of the 5k deposit, it's like 75k now or something
No, they got rid of the direct path to permanent residency. You have to go through temporary first. It's gay, but the options are viable still. The process is simpler now although more expensive.
To be honest hyperinflation for them is a way of life. A normal country is fucking angry with a yearly 8%. In Argentina that's just inflation in a month
How bad is it exactly is the economic situation in Argentina right now? When I went there last year, I didn't see any signs of poverty whatsoever in Buenos. Everything still worked, gas and food is abundant and the whole place is clean.
Honestly, it's not something you really "see" until you look into it.
Just by looking up the price of stuff like 2 years ago compared to now, it's crazy how much it's gone up.
But a lot of people like to exaggerate it, it's not like anarchy is rampant or something like that.
We are poor but we full a soccer station.
In this country we "living la vida loca", never bored with us. "Argentina, you would not understand."
Smartphone spelling sucks.
Currently applying for residency in Paraguay, they removed the investment option but there is a much easier new way with no investment requirement but you it isn't permanent and instead lasts 2 years. After 2 years you can basically apply for citizenship.
I apparently can't read
I live here as well. Where are you?
How are the girls there?
It's actually 70,000 USD deposit
OR a temporary residency for 2 years
>It's actually 70,000 USD deposit
What happens to the deposit?
Goes to the government, of course.
what the hell is this
just googled wage for boilermaker welders in argentina and it's about $3 an hour
that's like 1/20th of what I make in canada
how the fuck do people survive?
Do you not understand the concept of currency power, you fucking retard? Do you think they pay $1500 cucknadian dollars for a rat-filled closet to live in Mendoza?
Read a fucking book or use one of your brain cells
certainly they don't pay 1/20th of what I pay here... if that's the case I'd go right now
like $100 a month for rent in a good apartment in the city?
Get in touch with Otto, don't trust merchants
What happens in these
Neuquen is pretty much a big city now, isn't really that isolated, and has great landscapes.
Rio Black is a bit more snowy, so naturally there's fewer urban areas, but still quite populated.
Chubut and Santa Cruz are pretty much full of industries and huge distances between every landmark. Would recommend it if you like isolation, snow and driving in it.
Otherwise, I would recommend Buenos Aires. You have the big city but there's also a lot of countryside to make your house there. About 100km you can choose exactly the amount of tranquility you're looking for depending on how far from tourist areas you want to go. Also, it's a lot cheaper to live there. Southern provinces are quite expensive. Pretty much the same as living in Europe.
I am from Sweden and was planning a month trip to Argentina, how much would this cost including flights, and I am gonna visit Buenos Aires, and parts of Patagonia but please can I get some suggestions on other places as well, nice places for swimming and hiking preferably, also perhaps hidden gems in Argentina that tourists do not hear about.
If you like hiking and swimming Mendoza is a place you definitely should check out. And the budget really depends on what you want to do, everything here is really cheap to foreigners.
How's food and drinking? Any recommendations? I always wanted to try an Argentinean asado.
Tons of options, red meat in general is awesome but there's also exceptionally good pizzas and ice cream. You can eat a 4-star meal for less than 10 usd.
As for more traditional foods, you can try locro, empanadas, guiso, and if you like sweet stuff, anything with dulce de leche. Like alfajores or facturas that you can buy in panaderias. Croissants with dulce de leche are a must.
And about the drinking there's pretty good regional beer, and the last decade breweries have opened everywhere in most cities. IPA, APA, scottish, pale, etc.
I don't personally drink wine, but Argentinian wine is highly regarded as one of the best in the world. I've seen tourists praise even the cheap ones.
Decent whisky, outside of your typical brands
Not much vodka, tequila or rum, even though there is enough variety
And then there is Fernet. Mixed with Coke. Oh boy, it has a strong taste so it's a hit or miss, but if it hits, it's heaven.
If you're wondering about non-añcoholic drinks, meh. I guess we have mate, which is an infusion, sorta like herb tea, served on a wooden bowl (also called mate). It's more of a social thing, people sit together and pass the mate around, while chilling, or eating some snacks.
Argie here, I'm seeing a handful of misconceptions about this place and the surrounding countries, so I'll clarify a couple things. Feel free to ask about anything else you have doubts about.
For one, this is not a "globohomo-free" country. Quite the opposite, in fact. Save for Uruguay, this is the most pozzed country in latin america. The government is more preoccuppied with preventing "hateful discourse" and forcing a butchered "inclusive" version of the spanish language than taking care of the one half of our population who's living below the poverty line. Not to mention most sides of the political spectrum haven't necessarily adopted but have at least accepted and allowed this shit to happen.
A second thing to note, I have no idea why you'd want to live in a country that has been edging at the brink of economic collapse for decades. Unless you feel like Lord Miles wasn't enough of a retard, I see no reason to leave your home to come live in a place like this. Also, you better like taxes, because you're gonna see a lot of them.
As for the surrounding countries, Uruguay has a great quality of life and everything outside Montevideo is fucking empty. Paraguay and Bolivia are alright, they're somehow less corrupt and more stable than we are. Chile is good, they recently elected a leftie, so people are panicking about them going the way of Venezuela and yours truly, but if you ask me, he seems like a very down-to-earth guy when compared to the usual, blind, retarded ideologues every other country gets when they elect a left-wing politician.
Ask away if you wanna know anything about the people, climate, living standards, etc. of any particular province/region.
What would be the best regions in the country to build a doomsday bunker? Places where nobody will ever bother you or find you?
Definitely the Patagonia region. The whole place is fucking empty. Think american midwest, scottish highlands, or anything west of the Urals in Russia.
The bigger the province, the more chances of it being an empty lot, save for Buenos Aires.
Neuquén/Río Black if you want a city with a mid-sized population and many rural areas (watch the fuck out for mapuche terrorist groups, tho). Chubut/Santa Cruz if you want obscure, isolated european communities from every corner of the continent. Tierra del Fuego if you're a winterchad and wanna freeze to death.
>or anything west of the Urals in Russia
What the fuck, Mapuche terrorist groups? I've never heard about such a thing, what's going on over there? Is it like Patagonian ISIS?
Yup, government sponsored, too.
Back in the day when the country got its independence, our caudillos (pretty much spanish for "warlord") raided the south and genocided the shit out of every native tribes they could find. Somehow, this one survived and ended up becoming a what's essentially a cold war-style left-wing guerrilla terrorist group.
Once every few weeks, you'll hear of them terrorizing the people living in and around Neuquén, Río Black, Chubut, and rarely Santa Cruz and southern Mendoza. They're always fighting with locals and "reclaiming" land belonging to the mapuche nation (look up "wallmapu" to see the extent of their larp).
The government, being your typical, run-of-the-mill leftie activist group, loves turning a blind eye to it. The last bit of news I remember hearing about is them intervening to take land away from the army to give it to one of these groups and the ensuing shitstorm that followed. Last year they spent like a whole month raiding the town of El Bolsón, to the point the locals got tired of nobody doing shit and took it in their own hands to literally ride on horses and hunt them down cowboy style. It was pretty surreal.
That said, it's not unlivable. Many popular tourist destinations are smack-dab in the middle of mapuche territory. Their numbers are far smaller here than in Chile, so the real problem lies on the other side of the Andes, it's just that here they have free reign to fuck with people.
If you see pic related, stay wary.
>our caudillos raided the south and genocided the shit out of every native tribes they could find
Decime que el jardín o la universidad de mierda en donde aprendiste esto esta financiada por ingleses, judios, masones, mapuches o neonazis progres porque DIOS MIO
Al menos mentí diciendo que Roca hizo un genocidio o alguna otra fumada mas realista !
This post is full of shit. Ignore it, OP.
Even though the history lesson is somewhat correct and mapuches exist, they don't go around terrorizing anyone. Their fights with the border patrol are not an issue for inhabitants of the region. You might read about an altercation on the newspaper but it's more of a bunch of isolated cases. If a bunch of mapuches throwing rocks at a police car trying to enter "their" villa is "an act of terrorism", then by all means, keep talking about it.
not even the garden gnomes are this revisionistic
Patagonia seems based. All that land waiting to be occupied by White People ™
>All that land waiting to be occupied by White People ™
Argentinian patagonia is 90% shitty windswept arid plains, nothing of value there except for some minerals and a bit of oil and gas.
The Falklands has better land and that is already a windswept shithole.
las malvinas son argentinas gringo
nunca lo fueron pelotudo, se la tomaron políticos en una acción desesperada por aprobación
cerrá el orto mogólico
>Ask away if you wanna know anything about the people, climate, living standards, etc. of any particular province/region.
Cool, you seem to be a very cool guy, I'm from Bogotá, I wanna know a couple of things if I may to ask:
1) For tourism purposes, a 2 week tour, what are the best destinations, how dangerous could be the main cities such Buenos Aires, Mar del Plata, Mendoza or Cordoba? in terms of day-by-day tourism to get in touch with the city and the people and of course, go to a bar a get a drink?
2) Is it true about how argentinian women are about how dreadfuly crazy can be when it comes to hop on one of them as a outsider?
3) I don't give a fuck about soccer, what other things can offer the argentinian culture besides Boca Juniors/River Plate garbage matters??
4) Any gourmet suggestions?? I hear that depending on the street area, the restaurant where you are eating could charge you for the cutlery use, they even charge for asking extra sauce and one fucking napkin, is that true??? seriously???
Not that anon but...
You’re from bogota and you’re worried about buenos Aires ? Just stay out of the villas and nobody’s going to kill you. Also stay away from the stadium.
The napkins in Argentina are typically just a piece of thin paper but there’s no charge. But you get charged for all the sides. If you order steak literally all they’ll give you is the steak. Everything else like salad you have to order separately.
For culture Buenos Aires has one of the nicest concert halls in the Americas for classical music but the big stars like Daniel Barenboim do not live there. There are a few art museums. The military museum is also fun. La recoleta and la chacarita cemeteries to see the perons and gardel.
Eat pizza empanadas steak drink wine and plenty of fernet with coke!
you think because I'm from Bogotá I'm like an ex-marine or something vicious living in hell kitchen that survives killing day-by-day??? gimme a break... I can handle by myself but you are delussional, you are watching too much tv.
just wondering, being in a foreign land by yourself could be a risk, everywhere
thanks for the suggestions anyway, the military museum sounds interesting, but your food suggestions suck.
now we are talking, I do appreciate your suggestions sir
>The golden rule is: If you're being followed by someone who's covering their eyes with a cap or spot two dudes on a bike, run like hell.
>By "crazy", do you mean "crazy for outsider dick", or "fucking insane"?
not being too edgy, but let's just say I heard how proudful and insanely pain in the butt can be a girl from Buenos Aires just because they enjoy being like a total and insuferrable bitches, is that true??
>I don't really know how prone our women are to hooking up with outsiders, but if you mean the latter we're the country with the most psychologists per capita in the world and it still doesn't fucking show.
that's pretty accurate for my general idea, but could you elaborate?
that's a relief, I heard before from a cousin who in fact studied in the UBA Universidad de Buenos Aires, he told me that, but during that time I didn't understand what type of trap he was falling into as you mention before
interesting about what you mention about the "asado casero con mate", yeah I hear it before, here in bogota we don't have mate, but we do our very own asados at home in the "terraza" with beer, but no idea "about fernet con coca" .
>being in a foreign land by yourself could be a risk, everywhere
The usual applies here. If you stick out or "look like too much of a tourist" you might get scammed or robbed.
Public transport in particular can get really shitty. These fucks have become REALLY good at pickpocketing and nabbing shit from people from the outside of the bus if you leave the window open. Be careful if you take the Buenos Aires "subte", too, I've heard it can be crappy.
>not being too edgy, but let's just say I heard how proudful and insanely pain in the butt can be a girl from Buenos Aires just because they enjoy being like a total and insuferrable bitches, is that true??
>that's pretty accurate for my general idea, but could you elaborate?
At risk of getting (You)d by a thousand seething porteños, everyone in Bs. As. can be considered a proud, pain in the butt person. You don't hear other latam countries shitting on "egocentric argies" for nothing.
Many women here DO like to play hard... Or just outright confusing. Club girls can either be an easy lay or 400IQ mind games. You might find someone who's chill, you might find something reminiscent of an american roastie.
Sadly, I'm not much of a fuckboy, so you'll have to rely on advice from other argies for this. Just get accustomed to the idea that Buenos Aires (and the whole country to some extent) is a 2nd/3rd world place acting like they're 1st world.
Sadly, I think that's cultural, too.
>no idea "about fernet con coca"
Fernet is a Córdoba drink that spread throughout the whole country. Alone, it is considered one of the most disgusting wines on the face of the planet, but if you mix it with Coca-cola, it's the most popular drink in the country. You won't fail to see it at any club, house party, or social event.
>Fernet is a Córdoba drink that spread throughout the whole country. Alone, it is considered one of the most disgusting wines on the face of the planet, but if you mix it with Coca-cola, it's the most popular drink in the country.
I never understood how Argentines came up with that one. Does it go good with Italian food?
It does not go good with food
>I never understood how Argentines came up with that one.
It's one of those things that just exists and nobody can be 100% sure of how it happened, but a commonly agreed upon story is that it came from a group of friends who liked to mix alcoholic drinks with different soda flavors and one day they didn't have much to work with other than these two.
>Does it go good with Italian food?
Fernet con coca is more of a party drink, it's not very common to see it at a dinner table, so I wouldn't know.
fernet is a herb bitter that came with italian inmigrants and developed it own version with some local herbs, argies mix it with coke a lot, think of it tasting like a jagger, kind of, since jagger is a liquor and fernet is a bitter
That’s onlynbevause you haven’t had their napolitana or their fugazza or their empanadas which are a world apart from
The places that do Asado are also good for any kind of grilled meat sausages chicken etc
Also try the fernet mentha while you’re there.
Bogota is wonderful by the way
Argentino here who lived in the US and met many Colombian girls. Argentinian girls are shit compared to yours, don't waste your time or money. If they open their legs for you after 20 mins so be it, otherwise they are not worth your time. Colombian women are 100000x times better than argentinian ones.
Mr. & Mrs. Smith's Bogota is not real.
But that movie is American?
>how dangerous is Buenos Aires
>1) For tourism purposes, a 2 week tour, what are the best destinations, how dangerous could be the main cities such Buenos Aires, Mar del Plata, Mendoza or Cordoba? in terms of day-by-day tourism to get in touch with the city and the people and of course, go to a bar a get a drink?
If it's socializing, the main cities you named are pretty much perfect and as long as you don't walk too far away into low activity zones you should be fine. The golden rule is: If you're being followed by someone who's covering their eyes with a cap or spot two dudes on a bike, run like hell.
>2) Is it true about how argentinian women are about how dreadfuly crazy can be when it comes to hop on one of them as a outsider?
By "crazy", do you mean "crazy for outsider dick", or "fucking insane"?
I don't really know how prone our women are to hooking up with outsiders, but if you mean the latter we're the country with the most psychologists per capita in the world and it still doesn't fucking show.
>3) I don't give a fuck about soccer, what other things can offer the argentinian culture besides Boca Juniors/River Plate garbage matters??
If you're limiting yourself to the main cities, your best bet will always be sports, food/drinks, clubbing, and some basic sightseeing like parks and old colonial buildings. People in some cities are the kind that enjoys national culture at home, and listens to american music in the streets. Other culture things will be much more noticeable if you get away from the cities, and pretty much every other aspect can be enjoyed from afar, be it music, cinema/television, or literature.
You might have fun hearing (and sometimes deciphering) the local accents, though. Córdoba is home to the most notorious accent in the whole country, and people will make fun of mendocinos for "sounding like chileans" (warning: I WILL beat the shit out of you if I catch you saying that).
cont. because I wrote too much...
>4) Any gourmet suggestions?? I hear that depending on the street area, the restaurant where you are eating could charge you for the cutlery use, they even charge for asking extra sauce and one fucking napkin, is that true??? seriously???
I've never even heard of that shit happening. It's either the most awful tourist trap you could think of, or the gnomish diaspora doing its magic.
As for food, you might not need much of a guide. You'll probably notice people eating and talking about our food all the time, and we love shoving that shit into other culture's mouths. I'll give a quick rundown nonetheless.
If you go out on a sunday, you'll smell asado coming out of every other house you walk across. There are also restaurants specifically just for eating asado and several kinds of meat, but if you manage to make some friends, you might prefer the "authentic" experience and get it done on some dude's backyard. They'll also invariably offer you mate and beer/"fernet con coca".
If you walk around the city, you can sit down just about anywhere and look at the menu. I say milanesa if you're at a restaurant, tostado if you're at a café.
If you're a sweet tooth, walk into a store and get yourself some dulce de leche and alfajores. You'll thank me for the rest of your goddamn life.
If you're into wine, Mendoza is one of the top locations in the world for that stuff. Not much else to add.
>If you walk around the city, you can sit down just about anywhere and look at the menu. I say milanesa if you're at a restaurant, tostado if you're at a café.
>If you're a sweet tooth, walk into a store and get yourself some dulce de leche and alfajores. You'll thank me for the rest of your goddamn life.
>If you're into wine, Mendoza is one of the top locations in the world for that stuff. Not much else to add.
oh my, great suggestions noted my man, never try wine, at least not that high quality level wine, and alfajores, hell yeah you are right, thanks a lot for the information, duly noted for next year vacation
I mean that I had never tried wine...seems interesting of course
All the Argentinian women I met seemed level-headed enough, but YMMV. It hardly matters though, Buenos Aires is a hub for college students from the whole continent. Tuition is literally free, even for foreigners, so if you don't like the Argentinians you can switch to Brazilians, Venezuelans, Peruvians, etc.
How's the English level in BsA and among the Brazilians?
Hit or miss. Some will speak fluently and you'll have no problem, others will speak 0 and you'll need to whip out some Spanish.
Argiehermano, how's the crime in the smaller cities and towns? Let's say a town of about 10k -- is there cartel bullshit going on there, or in any of the countryside? Do you feel safer in general in the smaller towns than you do in the cities? How are the real estate prices there compared to La Tierra de las Hamburguesas?
Thanks in advance homie.
>how's the crime in the smaller cities and towns?
There used to be places here where there wasn't much to fear years ago, but the country is going downhill hard, so those places are starting to feel it.
That said, it will be less common than in the big cities. I won't say anywhere near zero, but it's harder to get away with shit when the place is small and everybody knows each other, lel. Town life is mostly chill, but far poorer depending on where you go (the north especially).
>Let's say a town of about 10k -- is there cartel bullshit going on there, or in any of the countryside?
Doubt it, most of the drug trafficking happens around/in the outskirts of the bigger cities (the exception being Rosario, where the WHOLE city is the argentinian equivalent of a mexican narco state, stay the fuck away).
>Do you feel safer in general in the smaller towns than you do in the cities?
Crime can always happen. You will be more "exposed" in small towns and you might be in trouble if you're hurt badly or feel unsafe at a particular moment in time, because small town hospitals have few resources and not as many policemen, while you'll be more prone to it in the cities but at least there are more resources/people to help you. "Safety" kinda depends on how much you can fend for yourself.
>How are the real estate prices there compared to La Tierra de las Hamburguesas?
Don't know much about that, actually, but I can tell you two things:
-Buenos Aires has been having problems reminiscent to that of London this year. Shit is too expensive and too small, so nobody wants it.
-As for the whole country in general, prices are just going up like everything else, so if you're planning to buy something, make sure you bring in as much foreign currency as you can so you don't have to start collecting Monopoly money that will have both lost its value and fallen short of the new price by the time you have it.
>Chile is good
Deja de enviar coomer-tier gringos para acá por la chucha. La mera presencia de Boric hizo como que 2 futuras Colonias Dignidad se fueran del sur del país.
I make 1000 usd a month with My easy remote job, want to go and study for free in one of your public universities, filosofía (I already have a "real degree"). Am I being realistic?
>want to go and study for free in one of your public universities
Why dont you just buy books and learn everything on your own?
Fuck off, we're full.
I want cute White Argentina gf
How fucked is Brazil now that they elected Lula back in office?
I'm going to Brazil this January, so I'm curious what to expect.
I personally think we have to wait and see, but it might not be looking good.
Not looking good in the sense that there may be unrest and Bolsonaro will chimp out and do something with the military, or not good like criminals will be more emboldened (if that's even possible) because Lula will be in office?
The latter. A Bolso chimpout would probably not be much greater than january 6th was for americans, as in, nothing of note happens, people freak out over it regardless, and Lula uses it for propaganda points against them for a while.
I doubt the guy would be retarded enough to start a civil war.
Literally no change whatsoever.
Why are people acting like Bolsonaro is some far right radical and Lula is some far left commie? They are both fairly centrist and neither of them had or have much personal power.
How does Argentina compare to Brazil ? Education, investment, house prices, economy, etc?
They're better off in pretty much every metric except overall crime, and maybe education rates? Depends on what you're thinking of. We have higher literacy and are rated higher in the UN's education index, but most of the best universities in latin america are in Brazil.
Their state of affairs is much less fucked up than ours.
what is the best way to fuck whores in Beunos Aires?
google is your friend
>I want to move to Argentina
Are uou retard or somehing ?
First worlders trying to "escape" their burning countries and have the great idea to go live in Latin America.
You are going to be so much fuck here, doesnt mather if you come to live in a buble, your still going to be fucked AND bored
not in argentina, it is a big country with a lot to do (and cheap)
maybe beaches are ugly, but you can go to uruguay
>I want to move to Argentina.
You're welcome, there is no navite people here
>Where do you start?
Buenos Aires has everything but Bariloche is better in every sense
>What do you need?
u$s 2000 monthly is enough, 4000 to be millionaire
what's the transgender escort market situation in Argentina. Do they mostly use coke or ice?
nearly all street whoring is trans mostly in the big cities and online.
In BA you will find them in Palermo park (Tres de Febrero Park) at night.Around the track near the Starbucks etc.
I don't do drugs so you got to figure that out yourself friend
Just be white. They will accept you as a fellow white.
Argentina is shit for everyone that doesn’t get income in dollars.
I make 2500 usd by working remotely and i Can afford pretty much everything over here, as long as you exchange in the black market.
Fuck, even electronics are cheaper here, somehow i got a brand new macbook cheaper than the us.
Been in paraguay, brazil and argentina
Cheapest is argentina, brazil is beautiful and chill, you have more economic freedom in paraguay, but i don’t give a fuck
Will i become a millionaire if i open a argentine bank and then convert my dollars to argentine pesos on the black market that reflects the real rate and then switch the currency back to usd to my bank?
More importantly, how is your sucess with the women there, tbh? Are they as crazy as some are saying?
>I make 2500 usd by working remotely and i Can afford pretty much everything over here, as long as you exchange in the black market.
How the fuck do you pull that off?
If you earn 2500$ remotely in argiland the gob will tax the shit out of that and force you to automatically exchange that amount to argentinian peso andthen the bank will charge a fee so 75% of those 2500 will not exist in your pockets.
Worse country to work remote
I mean, it's latin america, so it's probably easy to fly under the radar.. the police aren't worried about people like him.
You couldn't be more wrong. Our tax garden gnomes are IRS-tier and looking for excuses to be worse. Two of their latest hijinks include:
>Scrutinizing anyone who bought a plane ticket to Qatar for the world cup and demanding they "recategorize themselves" in order to pay higher taxes
>Launching a fucking satellite to keep track of rural landowners
Mind you, we're in no condition to have a fucking space program right now.
If there's money to be siphoned out of you, they'll be there.
>Launching a fucking satellite to keep track of rural landowners
te aviso que los estancieros son todos chorros 😉
Y los de la AFIP no?
Most people have a strong accent, but we're number one in english proficiency in latin america, so it should be fine as long as you stick to talking to city slickers.
This is almost exactly like Brazil. It's not so bad however.
You can essentially "live but don't live" secluded in some isolated place. It's quite a good country if you have the money. I'll have to say, healthcare in rural places is not good. They're run by imbecile doctors from private shitty schools and colleges in neighbour countries (also terrible). These people don't have a career in medicine past their 30-40s because they are absolutely horrible doctors.
The good hardcore ones come from public universities (the only education that matters) in brazil.
I won't type much more, too off-topic. But basically, you need to sift through piles of SHIT (memes and stupid anon stuff) to find good information about these countries.
I see... that's unfortunate
Argentina would be such a nice place if the government wasn't so shit, what's wrong with you all
that's exactly what I'm saying. It breaks my heart - imagine as a nation going through steady decline since the 1930s
this is the problem with democracies when your average voter is a mapuche or macacao
>Launching a fucking satellite to keep track of rural landowners.
you have to be joking about this one, I hope to god. also have you been to tierra de fuego?
>you have to be joking about this one, I hope to god.
If you can read spanish...
>also have you been to tierra de fuego?
No, but there's not much to it unless you like cold, low population, left-leaning voters, and ski resorts.
Why is Argentina so shit? Is it because it's white and leftist?
Peronism, garden gnomes, feminism, immigration from non-white countries, etc. All the usual slop.
he is telling the truth retard
by getting paid outside the reach of argie IRS (think payoneer) > crypto > OTC exchange it for pesos
it is REALLY easy to fly under the radar, it's just really annoying (because yo udon't ahve access to any kind of banking system, just peso bills and crypto AND you have to find someone that will give you peso bills for crypto. luckily thats easy if you live in any relatively major city)
t. fellow argiebro
So you trust your entire financial future to payoneer?
Can you explain to me what happens when payoneer get forced to share all its clients information 2 years from now?
I kill myself? Idk
the alternative is to get raped for 75% of my income monthly by giving it to the argie government
What I don't understand is why freelancers make that risky move, are they getting a shady argi "profesional accountant" advice or they just blindy follow the behavior of the other argi freelancers?
I think that you can't be an expert in something to get paid from abroad AND be an international tax expert who follow every news about the subject at the same time.
How can they live like that risking their financial future is beyond my understanding.
The alternative is paying 40% in high cost of living countries. Also, most nomads had no financial future in the first place, but created one breaking the shackles of wageslavery.
Also in my home country we have 30% unemployment. You read it right, 30%, and above 50% for young people.
This topic is interesting. Lets say I officially live in, say, Bolivia. I pay 10% taxes there. But what if I have a, say, French client, and he pays me euros into my french account from when I lived there.
What happens? Does anybody notice that? If you dont live or work in France you wouldnt have to pay nothing. Or what does the law exactly say in such cases?
depends entirely on each jurisdiction
in Argentina you are forced by law to exchange any income you make in a foreign currency to pesos within 5 days, and Argentina and French both share tax info between each other, so any money you have in a frog bank will be informed
by France once a year to your country of residence
Yes, but for residents. If I am a bolivian resident, and have everything legal set up there, but live as a tourist half a year in Argentina... Afipmorons cannot demand tourists money from their foreign accounts.
Just imagine. A chinese person goes 3 months to AR, and makes business calls while travelling. And then the Afip "nonononono now you have to tax your rembinbis to the cuck rate (official) plus taxes to finance the Campora and the planeros from La Matanza"
It is simply not possible to tax digital nomads who live not permanently in a country and own nothing there.
Or are you telling me the bank in France has hired some spy to track my movements across south america and then tell the Afip I got 200 euros in an account.... ¿? Even if it was 20.000, they can do nothing, since in Bolivia you tax no earnings outside of the country.. or does the law specifically say otherwise? Sincerely asking
ah, of course, if you're a resident somewhere else and just live here half a year you're free from AFIP stuff.
Thats right my fren. And that is the beautiful thing. Earning hard currency but using monopoly money (pesos) whose highest bill is worth less than the smallest one in Europe. The absolute same coin (same material) is worth 300 times more if its from Europe rather than argie. I am quite surprised the country is not collapsing any time soon. Top level juggling.
>Also, most nomads had no financial future in the first place, but created one breaking the shackles of wageslavery.
Do you think most digital nomads don't have a financial future and that they're wasting all their money in trips and food living the "experience" but only a few are investing and thinking in their future?
>Also in my home country we have 30% unemployment. You read it right, 30%, and above 50% for young people.
Spain is pain?
What will happen to Europeans that live that lifestyle when the ECB impose total control with the digital euro?
Then you use a different payment processor, or open an account in Paraguay or something and then have an agent transfer the money into the country if that's now what you're already doing with Payoneer. Or you just deposit the money outside and then take a trip once a year to bring back the bills stuffed in your underwear.
You sound like you believe you need to sign a lifelong contract with any of these fuckers. You can live quite comfortably in Argentina with 1k USD per month and our IRS equivalent is so fucking incompetent and tacitly aware that everyone's fleecing them that it's trivial to sidestep them. There is always somewhere to stash the money in and any form of foreign salary is a godsend here given out quicksand-stable economy. I have a stable teaching job and a freelance translation job and the latter is infinitely more profitable and, ironically, more reliable over time.
Why don´t you smoothbrains bank in another country in another currency that doesn't lose value overnight?
because its more likely that US banks start informing the argie IRS of how much money i have with them than random non-bank fintech virtual wallets using banks from bangladesh
Hmm, sure is a tough problem to solve.
I have some pesos from my trip to Argentina before covid, I guess they're worth less than toilet paper now?
Any guide if I want to visit the rural areas of Buenos Aires? I'm going to family in December for 2 weeks and don't want to stay home all-day.
There's tons of small youtube channels that are dedicated to showing the rural towns of Buenos Aires, they usually have good recs, check them out.
Definitely hit the Ruta 5 and 7.
Glowmorons are pretty much the reason for South America being a shithole anyway. South America will be a good place when the USA collapses/dissolves into South Africa 2.0 over the next 50 years.
Inclined to agree. Argentina, Uruguay, and Chile have a hope, anyway.
Do Argies speak English openly? Is it taught at school?
Are you sure?
It seems all the young Argentinians have moved to North Queensland.
I would try Puerto Iguazú. From there you can make local trips through Argentina (Aerolíneas Argentinas) and, crossing the border, you can make local trips through Brazil (Gol or Latam). Also, it is the comfiest city at Triple Border.
which areas have the most white people? I used t o have some bookmarks related to this question but,.. i know there are some purely german 'mennonite' cities up north, and nearer uruguay/south brazil... and patagonia afaik is the whitest (richest) area outside of BA
The "german" communities you are talking about are in Entre Rios, but they are all larpers.
Lighter shades of blue feel like an overstimation, but the "Argentina is white" meme checks out in the darker spots.
Gib White Argentinean gf
that map has an idea but genetic testing has shown that in the argentine Pampa Ancestry is just around 80% euro and not 90%. the map overestimates euro input and shows all of southern brazil as pure euro and mato grosso do sul as another bahia lmao.
LOL those maps im lmao
ive ridden moto through argentina a few times, this map is false
then why do they look so brown. even the "white" ones have strange facial features and look off
European descendants have pretty of mestizaje. Argentina has been marrón for a while now.
the richer areas of BA
Argentina es blanca papá
Sorry if missed but why are Argie girls so crazy?
because they're white
I have Argentinian citizenship.
I've visited Buenos Aires, La Plata, Cordoba, Bariloche and San Salvador de Jujuy.
This country is a shithole filled with beggars and thieves, everyone treats each other with suHispanicion.
Argentinians are arrogant and pretend they're displaced Europeans when they don't have the culture or GDP to emulate Europe.
What's worse is that hyperinflation is destroying this country, prices rise every fucking month.
I'm fucking off to Canada for a year-long job prospect that opened up and I'm immigrating to Spain the first chance I get.
DON'T come to Argentina.
Andate nomás cipayo, nadie te detiene
Dont come, we are full.
We dont like migrants
I am visiting Beunos Aires soon, what is there to do there for fun? How are the prostitutes?
They have a beautiful library. Eat lots of steak. As a Texan, I plan to go someday just to eat their excellent meat and wine
You can get robbed, or stabbed for a fucking mobile phone, its so funny.
I'm Argentinian and I live in the US. I haven't been to Argentina in two decades.
Do I need to get the Jab to visit?
damn argies are based aren't we.
My Argie waifu is p. based as far as women go.
>If I am a bolivian resident, and have everything legal set up there, but live as a tourist half a year in Argentina... Afipmorons cannot demand tourists money from their foreign accounts.
...and this is how you win the game.
Where is the best place in Latin America as a white man? Right wing but just looking to have fun and probably won't feel too political when im not around the people in the us that ive grown to hate over the past 24 years. I'm looking to travel when I graduate in summer with the 10k that I have left in the bank. Maybe teach English to stay for longer if I desire to do so.
>looking to have fun and probably won't feel too political
Brazil or Colombia.
im deadly seriously considering flying down to Uruguay in 12 months with just the clothes on my back and a tent to sleep on the beach with. I have a tiny amount of money and live with my parents in US so I would have to eat out of dumpsters in Montevideo, someone give me pro-tips to survive down there and no i dont speak spanish
Long story short, I want to go back to Argentina. I currently live in Scandinavia and I have been here for like 10+ years, just got a job that might perhaps let me work from abroad. My reasons are that I have become extremely anti social and joyless and I think going back to home for a year or two can help me get back to my roots.
I won’t want to live with my grandma (zona sur) and I m thinking of buying a small flat in recoleta as they are cheap af for me.
My question to my fellow boludos is: how to get money from here to there without the government taking half of it? Is it possible? Same with a monthly salary, I can’t just use my credit card from here to pay for shit there right? Can someone please give me a hand? Thanks
Buy usd from there and stick them up your ass. Then come here and sell them for the unofficial rate as you need them. You don't even need to clean the bills, exchange cabins will gladly accept your dollars and thank you for the shit stains.
you don't even need to stick them up your ass. just put them in your suitcase
If you withdraw from an ATM do you get the bad exchange rate?
If you mean at a Norwegian ATM, you'd have to talk to someone from Norway.
In most first world countries it is pretty easy to create a USD account at your bank, and the bank's conversion rate from your native currency is pretty fair.
Why on Earth would you want to do that?
The weather is nice down there sure but it doesn't have much else to offer.
im here right now in CABA and i cant fucking understand anyone. i need to improve my spanish
having fun though
Do people aged 18-30 in Buenos Aires understand/speak English or not really?
Why not just learn Spanish? If you are not a total mong you can get to a usable level in literally 3 months. Just actually commit 10 hours a week to it and you'll have the base to get where you want to go.
I agree and that was my intention, I was just asking because I often get overwhelmed due to anxiety issues so there might be times where my brain shits itself and I need to communicate in English
By usable level do you mean fluent?
Obviously you will not be fluent in 3 months (that is a task for a lifetime) but with 3 months of serious, consistent effort, you can learn the 2000 or so words you need to express basically any non-abstract thought or request.
It won't feel like much beforehand, but I did this exact thing (learn the 2000 most common words and practice listening/speaking every day for an hour for 3 months) before going to Russia, and the way people treat you with even that level of the language is remarkably different than if you are totally helpless. Most importantly, it turns basic things like ordering food or asking directions into an opportunity for an interesting interaction, rather than a tooth-pulling simulation.
And I know this sort of advice does not actually work on a person who becomes anxious:, but regardless: do remember that most tourists have no knowledge of the country's language whatsoever, so literally anything you can say or do in the language puts you far ahead of the average. From your perspective it might seem embarrassing to struggle with the language, but whatever monolingual person you're talking to is probably quite happy you're attempting to accommodate them, and feels no "vicarious embarrassment" for you.
Also, with that base, you can just barely start to have full conversations with people if you have a knack for languages and, believe me, the same country is two entirely different places when you can speak the language (even a little) vs. when you cant.
Sounds good anon, thanks for the indepth response
It's touching to know that people will appreciate me speaking their language even if it's garbled and I'm a fucking mess haha
How many asians are there in Buenos Aires?
My friend is moving out there and he has a thing for Chinese/Japanese/Korean/etc girls
your on sighsee, you can say you want to get laid in foreign countries here
ok, are there many asians in Buenos Aires though or not really
Thanks for creating a safe environment for me to share my vulnerabilities in anon xx
Como obtener novia chinita?
idk anon I don't speak espanol
fRiEnDlY rEmInDeR that my question still hasn't been answered
Can I get asian gf in BA or not?
ok thanks guys
t. mr small peepee
have a nice day
fRiEnDlY rEmInDeR nobody gives a shit.
No you can't.
More Asians in Peru and Brazil
Good sites to check for apartments to rent in Buenos Aires? Don't wanna spend more than 500USD
>Where do you start? What do you need?
suicidal thoughts and a strong desire to have all the downsides of living among morons but being unable to tell them apart right away because of their skin color.
unless you move out to the south of the country, then you only need some money, liking to be on your own most of the time and some knowledge to work on the petrol industries if you want to also work there
>some knowledge to work on the petrol industries
can you elaborate? I'm a porteño and hate it here, I'm not like the rest of this monsters
I fell in love with an Argie girl, she told me she loved me, spent 5k on her and once she got her visa she dumped me. I am over it now but I have never met such a cold blooded straight up psychopath in my life. She was gorgeous though.
>I have never met such a cold blooded straight up psychopath in my life. She was gorgeous though.
never seen our women being described so perfectly
Thanks. Plans to fuck Argie whores cancelled. Its Brazilian or Colombian now.
a visa for the united states? why would she do that, to get raped in taxes?
el americANO señores
We warned you gringotard.
Well if you think about it anon, thats a really cheap lesson
>lose 5k now
>instead of 400k later in divorce b
now you know to watch yourself around other people, especially modern women who go through life seeing people as walking vending machines
just arrived here im staying in Palermo and i can’t believe the amount of waste and trash lying on the streets? bad smell walking around as well. is it like this always?
Even Colombia and Mexico aren't like this
What leftism and garden gnomes do to a mf
its honestly depressing because some street buildings are beautiful but having to check all the time if im going to step on some dog shit is annoying
the sidewalks smell so bad
What is Argentina like if you're a manlet chinito with rudimentary spanish skills. Will I get mugged and scammed everytime I exit my hotel?
Is Buenos Aires Sao Paulo tier dangerous (aka actually dangerous) or London/NYC/Paris dangerous? (ie. technically not safe but if you're a straight guy that isn't a fucking idiot or pussy or displaying expensive stuff/smartphone out in the open you can still pass through sketch areas without shit happening)
My city falls into the latter category and I go to sketchy areas all the time because that's where the music scene is, I'm hyper aware of my pockets and bag just to be extra careful but in reality the worst that ever happens is that I sometimes have to blank some crackhead that I walk by
A mix of both, depending on the area. Someplaces you won't experience anything out of the ordinary, someplaces a dude will get fucking murdered over a cellphone.
>displaying expensive stuff/smartphone out in the open you can still pass through sketch areas without shit happening
This, for exapmle, might not change anything in the worst areas of the city. People know not to do this, yet morons know you still have something on you and will want to take it from you.
>the worst that ever happens is that I sometimes have to blank some crackhead that I walk by
Can you actually get away with just that in the sketchy areas of London and NYC? Criminals travel in groups here, so you'll get jumped by at least two dudes each time and they always have at least a shiv on them.
If you have 40k you can buy a house and with other 40k you can live at least 20 years without working
Do not, under any circumstance, come here if you don't have a remote job that can deposit your wages in a foreign bank.
I translate vidya for foreign clients and teach English at a very nice private school. The translation job, which is a couple hours per day, nets me about 1-1.5k USD per month and lands me somewhere between solid middle class and upper middle class (and I scratch the "rich" tier from time to time). The teaching job nets me about 235 USD per month for two full 7-8 hour days. If I did that all week I'd be lucky to scratch 600 USD per month, working way more hours. And that's a comparatively good salary, there are doctors whose monthly full time income barely beats that, and those guys had to actually make an effort for their degrees and shit.
Yes, living is orders of magnitude cheaper here than in many other countries, but relying on local income paid in our monopoly money currency means you will be subject to the comings and goings of our perpetual misery rollercoaster economy, ever oscillating between "shit is fucked" and "things stabilized a bit but the cocksuckers in charge are refusing to tighten the gibsmedats enough to straighten our ledgers so we're heading for another shitcreek soon" every couple of years. I'm 35 and I've already seen this tango play out several times. It never ends.
tl;dr It's a lovely place in many ways but you need to have a foreign economic tether if you don't want to live under perpetual stress.