If you could just say "fuck it" and move permanently to any other country, where would you go?

If you could just say "fuck it" and move permanently to any other country, where would you go?

Would you still choose a "nomad"-friendly destination like Thailand? Or a meme country like Japan where everybody regrets moving there after 1-2 years? Or go to Europe and hope that it doesn't become a caliphate in your lifetime?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You do the questions and the answers, just pick one for me.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I loved living in Thailand when I was young (superfuckingoldfag here). I disagree that it is a “nomad-friendly” place, as it’s one of not that many countries in the world where the government explicitly classes digital nomads as illegal immigrants, and the visa regime, always idiosyncratic, has tightened in some ways over the years. But it’s certainly somewhere I have known people to relocate to, happily, forever, and I sometimes think I might like to retire there.

    But I moved to Europe a little over three years ago at this point, ostensibly permanently, and I have been enjoying it here as well. I might like to leave my current country of residence (Switzerland) and relocate to somewhere a bit more relaxed, affordable, and friendly someday (candidates include but are not limited to Portugal and Italy), but I appreciate how functional and convenient for traveling abroad Switzerland is.

    And I see no evidence that the caliphate is on the ascendancy, in any real way, anyplace in Europe. People pretend that immigrants are replacing indigenous populations, but it’s not really true in any practical or realistic sense. Less than 10% of the overall EU/EFTA population is made up of migrants. It’s just that some migrant groups are particularly visible and like to live with and around their compatriots, so the obvious concentrations freak people out. Even in France, where some of the loudest freaking out occurs, not much more than 5% of the total population is Muslim. Meanwhile, something like six or seven times as many people voted for Le Pin in the most recent national elections, so French Muslims are clearly outnumbered by French racists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I see no evidence that the caliphate is on the ascendancy
      go to a children's park or check the ethnic composition of schools in any major western european city. if that doesn't show you "ascendancy" then you're just intentionally ignoring evidence

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well, you don't know what is a Caliphate, you 4chan drama queen.

        Not saying there's no population replacement, but using France as an example (being the worst case), not all migrants are muslims, a lot of blacks are christians (moreso than the usual atheist french).
        Secondly, maghrebis come from Algeria and Morocco, both not being Caliphates, one being a secular dictatorship and the other one being a touristy kingdom where even gays go.

        And finally, even if France became a majority muslim country (not saying it will), it would be more like Turkey than like a Caliphate. To this day, a lot of people consider Turkey as a good destination to spend your holidays or to live as freelancers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Secondly, maghrebis come from Algeria and Morocco, both not being Caliphates, one being a secular dictatorship and the other one being a touristy kingdom where even gays go.

          It doesn't matter. It's a well documented phenomenon that immigrants don't behave the same way as they did in their native countries, but this doesn't mean they adopt the host country culture either.

          Within MENA, strongmen keep radical imams in check as they are a threat to the ruling class. The west is much more permissive however and allows them to spread their bullshit. The ruling class over there also keeps the masses poor and unconcerned with anything besides their next meal so they're working all the time. This is why you see fertility rates of like 3 kids per woman in Algeria but 5-6 for Algerian immigrants in France. The "social safety net" encourages these people to have more children and let the state pay for it than what would be possible in Algeria, allowing them to have large families without even a getting a job.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Turks are basically byzantine greeks. The mohammedism is just a garment. The problem with EU muzzie immigrants isn't that they're muslim, it's that they're blacks, arabs, nafris and various other assorted problem cases. They move there en masse particularly because they're so shit at civilization they need someone to babysit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >They move there en masse particularly because they're so shit at civilization they need someone to babysit.

            I don't disagree with this, that's another reason why they couldn't create a caliphate over european politics, unless there's a major war destroying every european institution first.
            Maghrebis don't even control their home countries, France does. Before France controlled them, it was the Ottomans.
            The idea that they would politically control France and create a 'caliphate', while being maybe a third of the population in a few decades (every other races combined, christians, atheists and others still being a majority) is ridiculous.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              jesus christ man nobody sane wants to live in a 30% muslim country, whether or not you officially call it a caliphate according to your wikipedia definition

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Moving the goalpost like a good brainlet 4chantard you are.

                Your affirmation was that Europe or France will turn into a Caliphate, according to every single definition of Caliphate you can find, it won't.

                If Europe was a Caliphate and applied Sharia law, maybe we would had less thieves tho.
                Now, will it turn into Lebanon, into Brazil or into the US, with the same rate of crimes, let's hope not.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Turks are basically byzantine greeks.
            No, a lot of them are mixed with turkic tribesmen. The real greeks were basically driven away from the land.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There simply was not enough of a population of turks to change the face of anatolia as drastically as youre implying.

              Second, central asians are not as uncivilized as the current milleu getting imported by the million into Europe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How can anything you say be taken seriously when the native population fertility is well below replacement level and the migrants keep flowing in. Basic math shows that within your lifetime Europeans will be below 50% of the population (and most of them will be elderly) and below 25% of the youth. Europeans are being genocided. It's already not very comfy to visit the capital cities because of migrant crime

      > People pretend that immigrants are replacing indigenous populations, but it’s not really true in any practical or realistic sense

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not my problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >And I see no evidence that the caliphate is on the ascendancy, in any real way, anyplace in Europe.
      Sweden is already suffering the effects or Mohammedan subversion. France is getting there, Germany could easily get there. Switzerland is one of the most well-insulated countries because of how their immigration system works and due to it being so expensive.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically Japan. People that leave do so because they either have work-related problems (no job or job that pays shit bc no degree), visa problems or social/cultural problems. If you have a good qualified job, ideally in a Western company, speak decent Japanese and are willing to adapt to Japanese culture there is literally no reason to leave.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the culture is just depressing, even adapting to it doesn't help much in the long term IMO.

      t. lived in Japan for 1.5 years, didn't necessarily hate it but it's far from perfect

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but muh anime girls

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Depends largely on your personality and lifestyle, I suppose. I've been living in Japan for over 11 years and, while I do have some complaints and frustrations, I find life here quite comfortable.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If you could just say "fuck it" and move permanently to any other country, where would you go?
    I can already do this barring edge cases like Russia or North Korea.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to comment on the Living in "Japan is a meme" since I am living in Japan now going on six years and not planning on moving back anytime soon.

    Largely it is true, vast majority of "expat" westerners come to teach English and it may be for some their first time from mom and dad, so not only are they dealing with culture shock, but in some cases also having to learn how to do their own laundry, figure out all the shitty life lessons like healthcare, taxes, etc. On top of that the pay is shit and teaching is a burnout job.

    I moved a little later in life at 27 having already moved out of my parents house and did most of the serious fuck ups a young person could do in college and 20s, by 27 I knew how to handle myself and had enough grit to tough out most of my new "fuck ups". I was patient finding a good paying job aligned with my degree in a western company and because it pays in my home currency I make even more money now. I had no disillusions about how shitty Japan can be ( all countries are shitty in one way or another right?) and have a happy well adjusted life.

    That having been said expat/immigrants from non western countries are thriving here in Japan, whether it is the Brazillian factory communities springing up around Honda and Toyota plants, or the blue-collar Filipino and Vietnamese communities with thriving business and their own established institutions. They are carving niches and their kids are assimilating in Japanese society largely unnoticed by Japan at large, they are the ones I have seen over the last few years establish a foothold in Japan and is honestly the foreign workforce Japan needs not western English teachers.

    TLDR: do not come to Japan it is a meme country. Unless you got that sweet western job lined up or you Vietnamese.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Unless you got that sweet western job lined up
      working in a western company only removes the "shit working culture" aspect of Japan. there's also the part where everyone around you is a fucking depressed braindead zombie and the culture will eventually get to you.
      I guess this doesn't apply if you are living completely isolated from everyone else and do not care about having human contact

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd go somewhere where cooming is cheap.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it really doesn't matter if they replace the european population because the people coming in are stupid and easily controlled by the government

    Yeah that's the point, the government controls them and thus you, you are literal cattle trapped in a pen with stupid violent criminals, but you don't care so you get what you deserve. You are going to figure it out when you are 50 and your body is slowing down and almost all the young people look nothing like you and have been told from birth that you are the root of all their problems

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