I'm graduating college this week. Want to move somewhere next year.

I'm graduating college this week.
Want to move somewhere next year.

Where would I have more fun, NYC, Europe (like Netherlands), or Japan?
What's a better place for a mid-20s young person to find an interesting and exciting social circle?

I work in tech.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i work in tech too and I graduate next summer. do you have a remote job lined up?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      to answer ur question, generally you'll be limited to your nationality or first language for friend groups from what I've seen with foreign students.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if you're in usa.. why not just move to NYC or Chicago.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          but i gotta elab a 4th time that i can't make friends in chicago so ymmv

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just go to the murder capital of the US
          >just go to the homeless capital of the East Coast
          The US is such a shithole. Get out before you can't again.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >just go to the murder capital of the US
            I moved to Lincoln Park area of Chicago recently and it's pretty comfy. Lots of cool young people, lots of college age girls, lots of fun things to do, lots of nice restaurants, there's even a large nearby park so lots of greenery too. I haven't seen or heard of anyone getting murdered lol, walking around at night is very safe.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >live in lincoln park
              >did I write this???
              >i don't think so
              lmao

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >live in lincoln park
              >did I write this???
              >i don't think so
              lmao

              what kinds of companies are in lincoln park?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's a few miles away from downtown chicago, and in chicago.

                the stereotypical move is to go north a mile or two above that once they have some money from a real job. Or, even they make a lot of money go a mile or two south closer to downtown.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >says the terminally online retard

            Everyone I know in NYC says it's awesome but just smells bad in some areas due to no dumpsters. It has the lowest emigration of any US city.

            It's the same type of "spare some change?" homeless I saw in Spain too, not crazy insane California homeless.

            Log off and socialize with people irl you fear-monger victim NPC retard.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Go back to your tech salary thread and quit overusing terminally online you’re the one on sighsee too you fucking moron

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >It has the lowest emigration of any US city.
              because there's a lot of people who are stuck there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did you line up a remote job? I'm graduating in March with a CS degree specializing in data science but I haven't been able to get a single internship.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >move somewhere
    you can't just "move somewhere" without a job. Most countries will not want to take on a shitty undergrad graduate with no experience
    >where would I have more fun
    grow the fuck up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All if those places OP mentioned actually do offer a pathway to live there. Just because you wasted your 20s working doesn't mean OP has to. This is a travel board after all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, lmao. Seethe wagie

      https://i.imgur.com/9cKz5X5.jpg

      I'm graduating college this week.
      Want to move somewhere next year.

      Where would I have more fun, NYC, Europe (like Netherlands), or Japan?
      What's a better place for a mid-20s young person to find an interesting and exciting social circle?

      I work in tech.

      It's hard to break the expat bubble in most of asia if you only speak english. If you are not comfortable only dealing with a limited pool of potential friends, stick to places in europe with lots of english. If you are cool with that restriction, SEA is cheap, really different, has plenty of english speaking expats; I recommend spending a few months there, just hop to different countries and dont worry too much about visas until you find a place you like. I hate anglo cities, US/UK/AUS/CAN/NZ, so I can't recommend any.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely Europe
    NYC - more similar to what you're used to
    Japan - lots of interesting stuff but hard to talk to people and make friends (never been but this is my impression)
    Europe - experience different culture while still being able to talk to people. Especially Netherlands. 93% of them can speak English over there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >never been but this is my impression
      this is true for 99% of people who have opinions about japan on this board

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    NYC is full of morons and trash on top of being really fucking expensive.
    Netherlands is not a bad option
    Japan is good if you know or are willing to learn the language.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm biased but I live in Amsterdam and it's probably the best for you. English fluency is high, place is filled to the brim with internationals. This board seems to be sex obsessed so I will say - yes, you can sample pussy from around the world here. But besides that you can always meet interesting people here. If you like partying and party drugs, certainly a good city.

    Housing market is absolutely asinine right now, but one of the greatest perks of living here is good transportation. Car ownership is redundant, you can get from any corner of the city to the other by bike.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we're full though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not what ur mom said when she invited me over last night

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    After university I went a year to Japan for an internship job. Being German, another European country would have been boring probably. Not wanted to get shot so US was out too. Japan is a country that is very different to everything I knew and not a place I would probably end up later in life except for holiday. So I went there. Great experience, best time in my life and I don't even like anime. There is so much to do and see, it never gets boring, not one day. It's a bit tricky to make friends because Japanese are shy and reserved and often don't speak english. But since I worked at a company full of people my age I could do a lot with them after work. And it's so easy there, I haven't cooked once because there is endless amount of restaurants that serve you quick, affordable and very delicious food. I always did night walks after work which is very relaxing, i miss this the most. Also karaoke, izakaya, hiking in pure nature, finding movie locations of old samurai movies, museums, lots of bars, gaijin hunter, car meet ups, etc. Nightclubs aren't as good as in Europe though and mostly filled with shady Japanese men and gaijin. I would say only 10% girls.

    Only bad thing about it: 10 years passed already but I still constantly compare everything with Japan now. If the train here is late (as most of the time) I think "why the hell is every train in japan punctual and why do I live in a third world shithole". It can get a bit depressing sometimes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro food in japan is expensive af

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can get a full meal for like 1000-1500 yen. Including free water and not having to pay tips. How is this expensive?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          thats not that cheap, a 5 buck full meal would be cheap

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you probably live in some flyover state. prices in california and NYC are much higher than Japan, it's not even comparable

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          what I mean by expensive is that its US prices

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      German leaves his shithole country to infest Japan

      Fuck off you retard

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on where you're from. Washington, California, and Texas are worth considering. Chicago is worth considering if you're not from the Midwest, and New York if you're not from the East Coast.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have no idea how hard it is for an American to get a work permit in NL. Even if you were married to a Dutch girl you wouldn't be able to work there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Even if you were married to a Dutch girl you wouldn't be able to work there
      wtf? why?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Even if you were married to a Dutch girl you wouldn't be able to work there
        >wtf? why?
        The Dutch just have a slightly tighter version of the universal EU labor law. For an employer to hire a foreigner, first they have to prove that there is no Dutch national available who could do the job. Next they have to prove that there’s nobody from elsewhere in the EU who could do the job. So Americans and all other non-EU foreigners are a distant third in line. Plus, alongside the bureaucratic PITA, it’s much more expensive to import non-EU people, so even if the protectionist policies didn’t exist there would be a big disincentive to bother hiring Yanks.

        Not to say that it doesn’t happen. But it happens even less than in other EU countries. You’ve basically either got to be pretty hot shit or get transferred in with a multinational.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have multiple friends living as expats in the Netherlands, and most of them complain a lot. The Dutch are very blunt to the point of being rude, and most are disinterested in socializing with foreigners. Although they have some of the best English in Europe it's typical for most to speak only Dutch if there's more than one Dutch person present. You'll probably wind up in a mostly if not entirely-expat bubble. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's a thing.

    All that said, as a casual visitor I've always had a good time there. You might give it a shot if you can get a company to sponsor you for a work permit (as above seething poster suggests, it's basically impossible for an American to move to Europe without having a job in hand before departure; it's rare to be allowed to come over first and seek work on the ground, and if you try to go that route anyway, you will almost certainly have to leave the country again to get your papers in order at an embassy outside of NL once you have an offer in hand).

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