I'm thinking of moving to Japan.

I'm thinking of moving to Japan. Is it better to transfer to a company's local branch there or just do nomading and move between Japan, Korea, etc.? Anyone done both and can comment on the pros and cons?

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    First question... have you actually been before?

    Are you employed at the moment by a company that has offices in Japan that you can transfer to?

    I think you might be underestimating the challenges and requirements.

    If you've not been or spent an extended time there, then definitely do nomading first, but even then make sure that you know what you're getting yourself in for.

    I've only done pre-covid trips on a 90 day tourist visa to Japan. tbh I think that was enough for me, then I'd go to Thailand or Malaysia where I actually find coworking spaces much more social and welcoming.

    I love Japan, but 'living' there whilst you're working is definitely not as enjoyable as being a tourist (not exactly surprising), and I personally find I have a much better quality of life in Kuala Lumpur, or Cebu in the Philippines... and not just cause the cost of living is cheaper, but just socially and access to things.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes I have been there and yes I can definitely transfer there. Just looking for opinions about the quality of life.

      I am worried about the social aspect, as you say.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        quality of life is horrible, i lived and worked in japan for 3 years from 2012-2015, still my favorite vacation spot but i hated actually being part of japanese society, i worked at a large japanese engineering company that was working on us contracts (mainly for military shipyard support), highly stressful and passive aggressive coworkers made it difficult to enjoy my time off other than drinking and spending too much money on weekends

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          I live and work in Japan now and I agree your quality of life depends so much on your coworkers, and most of that is out of your control. Japanese people can turn batshit psycho at work, and your managers and/or coworkers can be miserable to work with.
          If you are lucky and get a good work environment, life can be pretty good, but it's hard to get an environment like that in a Japanese company.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cebu? I'm not sure he's interested in banging single moms who live in huts.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        More of a suggestion because there are good co-working spaces if you're doing the digital nomad thing, English is widely spoken, and compared to Manilla, it's easier to enjoy the beach and nature, as well as visit other islands.

        I've actually found the people in the co-working spaces pretty well educated and a good mix from all over the world. People actually get work done too, unlike Bali and other 'life coach' hotspots.

        Yes I have been there and yes I can definitely transfer there. Just looking for opinions about the quality of life.

        I am worried about the social aspect, as you say.

        I've only worked in co-working spaces in Tokyo, so can't really say what real office life would be like. Sometimes you'd get outgoing Japanese people who wanted to socialise, but a lot of people just went home. My Japanese isn't great either, so I never got very far breaking through those barriers. I think I socialised with more Japanese people who I met in international book shops or bars than in the office.

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    There’s a fricking general for this. I’m tired of seeing a million Japan threads. It’s not the only country in the world and Google exists you idiot

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      japanese website

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >weeaboo website

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to assume you have the choice of either relocating to a branch office in Japan or working remotely and staying wherever you want but only 3 months at a time (6 months max) in Japan. I say go for the remote working arrangement and nomad around. The obvious benefits of being a remote worker should speak for themselves, and others have already spoken about what it's like to work in a Japanese office environment. Keep the freedom of being a nomad. You can still make friends and socialize in Japan for 3 months at a time (I have many Japanese friends who are so busy with work that we could only meet about that often anyways). You can keep romantic relationships going that long too, or rekindle them whenever you're back. And you can experience other countries as well. You might find you prefer living in Taiwan, Vietnam, etc. Your money will certainly go further there. I took a job in Japan and even though it's a good job in a good environment, I miss being a nomad and I'll probably return to it after my current contract is up.

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm thinking of moving to Japan.

    Why would you do this to yourself? Actually, you know what, do it. You'll suffer for your ignorance

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      the world is going to shit, whatever complaints you have about Japan are not so bad that they make it obviously a worse destination than other places...

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >whatever complaints you have about Japan are not so bad that they make it obviously a worse destination than other places

        t. never live in japan

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am living in Japan right now, and have lived in 6 countries before that. I think I can make a fairly accurate assessment in this case

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well then I guess you're a fricking homosexual and cant be helped

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              "you're a fricking homosexual because you enjoy Japan", says anon on a Japanese cartoon discussion forum

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do the nomading thing if you have a glorious US salary. The Yen is in the toilet and you can live pretty far off a $70k salary. I wouldn’t do Korea tho, bounce between Thailand/Japan.

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could always go remote and enroll in some phoney baloney Japanese language school and get a student visa. They aren’t that expensive, cheaper than a visa run.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      any advice on finding a low effort language school?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Show me a Japanese language school offering student visa support that is cheaper than a return flight to Korea.
      In addition show me a language school in Japan that successfully offers student visas without keeping strict attendance records.

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I talked to an old transexual who I thought was an elderly lady from afar. I was leaving a shrine - this is the inaka of the inaka, inaka squared, and there's just this random transexual old dude. He told me about some local history and then I left. It was a decent few minutes but I just felt uncomfortable.

    Ostensibly, one of the reasons I travel is to meet and talk to all kinds of different people, and meeting this dude in the middle of nowhere, Japan would probably count as a gold mine. But I just left the dude and his life story undiscovered.

    Should I have tried to get to know him or something?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Actually he was probably more of an okama. But still, I've never seen them outside of the big cities.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also this was in broad daylight. So I'm really surprised, I didn't think okama just walked around all day and prayed at temples and shit dressed like that.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese veganas are so tight... I'm not even joking... you better not be a half minute man

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Living in Japan is pretty good but it depends a lot on where you work. I've worked 40h per week without overwork. Pretty good. Payment was fine too. Life there is easy mode. Everything just works, great infrastructure, best food ever, all people dress nice and are quiet. On weekends you can go hiking in beautiful nature, go to the beach for surfing or swimming, discover beautiful towns or just take a walk in a random Tokyo neighbourhood. There is always something to see and experience. And for whatever hobby you are interested in: There is a club for it. Clubs or meetups. Really anything. Walked around Minato once and found a Fiat Punto meetup. Fiat Punto lmao. I didn't even know this car existed in Japan, yet there is a fanbase around it.
      Also I miss going home from work when it got dark. Warm temperature, the bug sounds, etc. It had something very relaxing to it. I totaly regret to go back to Germany, even I work 50% less here and earn more.

      I have a Japanese wife and can confirm. It sounds good but it isn't. I'm German average of 16cm, but a bit more width than usual. If I'm not 110% hard and at it with my mind I won't get inside her. If she isn't wet, no chance at all. If I want to be sure, I have to take a cialis pill.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        How much did you earn in Japan and how high were your living standards? Personally, I never saw Japan as an option unless you were making money, but soon I have my master in logistics. The US is still my first choice (still no luck with the green card), but maybe spending a few years in Japan is quite tempting before going to the US or working rest of your life in Switzerland

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          650k yen per month. Living standards were ok for Tokyo I guess. Tiny apartment very central, no car. But always ate outside, never cooked myself. Lots of traveling inside the country. Could still safe up some money but not gonna get rich there. I would say if you are interested in the country go for it. Maybe do some holiday there before. What I underestimated was the heat and humidity, nothing compared to our mild summer in Europe. I was full of sweat 5 minutes after leaving the shower.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Walked around Minato once and found a Fiat Punto meetup.
        Wtf, Japan is based now?

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s best to get transferred by a foreign company to Japan. That way you earn normal wages and don’t get treated as shittily. Those jobs are rare though, so it’s more likely you’ll have to wage slave for a jap corp until you hit the glass ceiling.

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Brendan??

  11. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am sorry but that's Chinese. If you can't tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese you need to apply.

  12. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're coming from the US it will mostly be a downgrade unless you live in a 'hustlin n busltin mega city' with mom and dad still
    >the quality of goods and furniture is far lower than shit in the US for the cost
    >balancing your diet the same way you can is expensive and time consuming
    >heating and cooling in most places that are reasonably priced sucks ASS
    >you'll get nickle and dime'd harder than you think, especially in transportation
    >you'll never really 'fit' in even though you make friends it's a weird persona you often can't put your finger on
    >you'll be at the bottom of the totem pole for time off, office shit, and such
    >moving back out is hard
    >women will go 2 ways on you 1st) you're a ticket out of the country to glorious US/EU or 2nd) you make so much money that they never have to work
    >6 or so months into it you'll burn out but convince yourself it was the right thing
    >taxes working IN japan can suck ass

    I love the country, but wouldn't move there even though I've had offers and right before covid was about to move there. Glad I stayed in the US, able to travel, not work in an office, and not deal with everyone putting on a face around me.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >USlard talking about balanced diets
      i am not trying to disprove the rest of your points but that specific one was fricking laughable

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jap food is as full of goyslop as American food, they just eat tiny portions so they don't get fat. it's actually so nutritionally bad. I lived in Japan for 1.5 years and really struggled to get good basic food

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          don't get me wrong dude, i am not trying to say eating out in japan is healthy (though fresh meat, seafood and vegetables are always available if you wanna cook), but even the "fresh" things in the US are full of ass cancer and hormones, and it's just as hard to have a proper diet in the US

  13. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Japan also has BCG jabs

    Interesting

  14. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have lived in Japan now since 2017, it's a lot better living experience that where I grew up. I do have an MBA and PMP certifications which helped land a decent paying job with an American employer. I chased a few Japanese girls and ultimately settled with one who went to American University, because honestly two high incomes are better than 1.

    I see a lot of miserable ESL rat bastards so cannot recommend that route unless you only want to stay a year or two

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