Indonesia kills its touristic industry

Indonesia is killing its tourism industry by implementing this summer a wide range of new taxes and price hikes across the board.
For example tourists were charged $15 per day on the Komodo Islands. From August 1st it will be $250. Borobudur temple gets a $100 increase to get inside the temple.

Do you think this is a good thing as locals take back control of their touristic areas, or will it send whole regions into poverty once tourists no longer come?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another example of one of these dumb, shitty, third world Southeast Asian countries "rebranding" themselves for "luxury tourists". Let it rot. Indonesia is Muslim anyways and therefore largely worthless and boring outside of Bali.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is it because they lost a shit ton during covid by being good little cattle and closing their borders? now they are trying to make the lost money back? lol well fuck that just go to another country instead

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Nooooo you can't preserve your natural and historic sites you have to let me in to litter everywhere
      > Aaaaaaaaa is that a $10 entry fee for 1 month in Thailand I can't go now and rack up thousands in hospital bills, you are killing the tourist industry aaaaaaaaaaa
      Thank fuck you povo cunts are being kicked out, it was well overdue. Go to Africa or something.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope , poorfag

        Lol at fucking paying $250 to see some fucking gay ass lizards that used to cost $15. You guys are either fucking retards or Indonesian tourist ministers shilling your shitty fucking 10000% upcharge scams that nobody is going to fucking pay for.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          People will still pay, it's a fucking pain to get to anyway and costs far more than that in general.
          Personally happy they are protecting these places because Asia is trashed as fuck as it is, no need to shit it up anymore with pajeets and chink tourists, especially islands with rare dinolizards

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >People will still pay

            Yeah congratulations, for every 1 dumbass tourist who agrees to these scam prices, youll have literally hundreds of others who say "no thanks". Total net loss is going to be catastrophic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope , poorfag

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lets x20 our taxes right in the middle of the touristic season!
    Brilliant. Who's the based retard who came up with this scam

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a terrible plan. If it were a terrible plan they would have done it before tourist season.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      When does it take effect? If it actually goes into effect now then it's a smart scam. People already booked their trips, they can't back out now

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Today's price is not yesterday's price

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they think they can get the big bux travellers. its delusion, they see all these western backpackers and think "hmm why don't we lure in their rich parents?" like its just that easy.

    they fail to realize that fucking nobody would be going to SEA if it were not cheaper than so many other destinations. you would have to be colossally retarded to spend New Zealand or Japan-level money and then foresake those places and go to fucking Indonesia.

    either way I'm keen to let Thailand and Indonesia indulge this shit for a few years just to teach them a lesson. I don't think its that great of a loss for world travel either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they fail to realize that fucking nobody would be going to SEA if it were not cheaper than so many other destinations.

      100%. can't be charging 1st world price for 3rd world shit hole. what are these fucks thinking

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > charging 1st world price
        Sir do not redeem

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You incel losers need diseased whores and will pay the price like to addicted coomers that you are

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but no one goes to Indonesia for that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this. im already in transit to the bulkans and eastern med for this year. real culture, real history and real value for the money, and no fucking masks. fuck asia and especially that uppity sprawling third world slum known as southeast asia. i hope they all go full sri lanka and fall off a fucking cliff.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What. Are there hookers at Borobodur?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Almost, since the government wants to force tourist to hire a guide if they want to visit. The explicit goal is to create jobs

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    in the case of komodo, they are also limiting the number of tourists to 200,000 per year
    they will find plenty of people willing to pay. i have never been there but it is on my list and paying a bit extra doesn't bother me. a couple of hundred dollars on top of a trip that probably costs thousands. big deal
    it seems they have done it partly because tourists there act like utter twats sometimes. a couple of months ago there was a tourist boat that set off a load of fireworks that scared off all the animals. people leave litter everywhere, pester the natives and so on.
    it's also a unesco world heritage site so they will get funding from unesco if the tourist numbers fall short

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/sN7fN5G.png

      It's the Botswana and Bhutan models and its based. It keeps out retard tourists like Americans and Chinese and keeps natural environments and under developed cultures from being degraded by hordes of instagram thots doing cheap trips for clout.

      >"but muh environment"

      jesus christ shut the fuck up. every time i see a moron say this bullshit im throwing a piece of plastic trash in the forest.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it sounds like you're not really in the target demographic for visiting komodo in the first place anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're the type of anon this price hike is designed to keep out.

        I wouldn't pay $250 to see oversized murder lizards, but I'm sure others would.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I wouldn't pay $250 to see oversized murder lizards

          cool, guess what? neither would anybody else.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          that $250 is just your tax to the govt, it doesn't count what you spend to get there, accomodation, food, tours, etc.

          I paid something like this on Fernando de Noronha, except that place was truly special beyond belief and it was two hundred reais for ten days (about $40USD), not $250USD!!!!! which is just fucking robbery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      its a thirdie shithole
      >muh world heritage
      top kek thirdies

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the Botswana and Bhutan models and its based. It keeps out retard tourists like Americans and Chinese and keeps natural environments and under developed cultures from being degraded by hordes of instagram thots doing cheap trips for clout.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Borobudur temple gets a $100 increase to get inside the temple.

    I thought you were lying but it's true.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/borobudur-worlds-largest-buddhist-temple-to-get-more-expensive/ar-AAY8cmT

    Indonesian confirmed for low IQ, changs arent going to pay that price to get in ... they will just built their own fake temple in China

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The type of tourists who really wanna see the Komodo Islands are probably the types who are willing to pay $250/day.

    Might be good for the environment of Komodo Island too if there's fewer tourists paying more money (although locals probably won't like it if the government takes all the money while they get fewer tourists to make money off).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The type of tourists who really wanna see the Komodo Islands are probably the types who are willing to pay $250/day.
      What do you mean? It also makes it very difficult to bring children since you'll have to basically fork out $1000 per day for a family of four.
      It will also as you said bankrupt most hotels in the area because there's nothing there to do besides going to the islands

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it sounds like you're not really in the target demographic for visiting komodo in the first place anon

      hmm sweety, old white boomers and mainland changs aren't paying $100 to see some big lizards. Ticket to the zoo cost $2 in the third world ...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        most old white boomers don't even know what an indonesia is, and of those that do the vast majority are fucking terrified of it and want nothing to do aquanting themselves at all with some southeast asian shithole. much less a MUSLIM southeast asian shithole.

        if this scheme were just to keep people out and protect these places I'd be fine with it, but more than well enough familiar with how these governemnts (let alone people in these countres) work and think; and they are totally incapable of that sort of holisitc or big picture approach. this is just misguided greed and delusional groupthink.

        the thai's can eat shit too. there is nothing in thailand that you can't find in vietnam, laos and cambodia.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          $250 to see a Komodo dragon while wearing some fag muzzle hahaha ‘oh but I’ve already paid $2,490 to not drink alcohol and be hated by the locals, what’s another $250?’
          Sounds GREAT. Posted from the airport on my way to Mexico where I will be charged $0.00 to do whatever the fuck I want and - even better - not a moron, CHINK, NIP or MASK in sight! Have fun with your ‘eco luxury tourism’ you sad fucks. Anyway I’m pretty sure I saw a Komodo dragon at London Zoo. Or maybe it was a large Iguana I don’t know because they’re the SAME THING HAHAHA

          Bye Felicia

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reddit moment

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        komodo is a major cruise ship destination
        the operators will probably just build the cost of the island entry into the cost of the cruise. who would notice?
        anyway let's meet back up in here a year and we can see then what happened

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    $250 to see a Komodo dragon while wearing some fag muzzle hahaha ‘oh but I’ve already paid $2,490 to not drink alcohol and be hated by the locals, what’s another $250?’
    Sounds GREAT. Posted from the airport on my way to Mexico where I will be charged $0.00 to do whatever the fuck I want and - even better - not a moron, CHINK, NIP or MASK in sight! Have fun with your ‘eco luxury tourism’ you sad fucks. Anyway I’m pretty sure I saw a Komodo dragon at London Zoo. Or maybe it was a large Iguana I don’t know because they’re the SAME THING HAHAHA

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based. I avoided Indonesia because I did not want to encounter disgusting poorfag dirty hair hippy begpackers who can't afford to travel but feel entitled to. I will gladly spend big bucks in a curated clean country.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I avoided Indonesia because I did not want to encounter disgusting poorfag dirty hair hippy begpackers who can't afford to travel but feel entitled to.
      That's fucking dumb. Outside of Bali and the immediate neighbor islands, you don't really see this sort much around Indonesia.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >curated clean country.

      Youve never been to Indonesia if you honestly believe this. The country is a total impoverished dump outside of Bali that makes Thailand look like Switzerland by comparison.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pay 250 per day to get the lizards basically to yourself
    >no low class eurotrash
    >no Chinese peasants
    >no dumbfuck camera ladden nips gawking at everything

    Idk seems okay. Pick somewhere else, maybe like Disneyland, to take your kids you stupid shit.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who in their right mind would pay lots of money to go to a shithole like Indonesia?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Coomers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Indonesia
        >cooming
        Philippines or Thailand are the other way.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They have incrediblely large coomer industry , since they're secular muslim

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't most of the coomers there Singaporeans and other Asians instead of the stereotypical fat old white westerners, though?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Aren't most of the coomers there Singaporeans and other Asians instead of the stereotypical fat old white westerners, though?
              are you retarded? in all of the SEA shitholes the vast majority of coomers are the locals.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bhutan has always had a $250 per day requirement. It works brilliantly, keeps the trash out.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Except the $250 you pay in Bhutan covers for a guide, food, accomodation and transport.
      Effectively it means you will have to pay those $250 per day and not much else.
      This is a tax, where you have to pay for everything on top of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does it include a hooker?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are big protests in the nearby town Labuan Bajo right now. Tourist operators are on strike and have threatened to burn the hotels and boats down if the government goes foward with the new tax.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that doesn't sound very productive

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They say that if the goverment is to destroy their livelihood theres no need for all these hotels and boats anyway. As

        https://www.balidiscovery.com/month-long-protest-at-komodo-labuan-bajo/
        >He said establishing an exclusive franchise on some park activities by a Regional Government Company – PT Flobamor, represents an illegal monopoly of the local tourism sector.
        that's an interesting little snippet. i wonder if the person who runs that company just happens to be a cousin of someone in the regional government

        pointed out this is a thinly veiled attempt to cash in on one of the few economic outlet of the area

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A 25x price increase sure isn’t going to increase productivity either. They’re worried about their jobs and businesses.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.balidiscovery.com/month-long-protest-at-komodo-labuan-bajo/
      >He said establishing an exclusive franchise on some park activities by a Regional Government Company – PT Flobamor, represents an illegal monopoly of the local tourism sector.
      that's an interesting little snippet. i wonder if the person who runs that company just happens to be a cousin of someone in the regional government

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. At the end of the day, most locals in Southeast Asia know which types of travelers butters their bread. And its not the nouveaux rich retards who come to buy Louis Vuitton bags at the local shopping malls and stay in walled-off resort hotels.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't read the thread and don't care what it's about because I already know it's sexpats and a unholy mix of asian incels and white 4chan incel cockblockers and white/gnomish leftist moralfags and "real travelers" but I just wanted to state that I could beat the shit out of a Komodo dragon if I had to in self defense

    Hell I bet I could take on a whole horde of Komodo dragons. I'd be throwing haymakers left and right with drop kicks out of nowhere. It would be a wirlwind of fists and flying lizards being sent to the Andromeda galaxy from the velocity alone. Not at light speed but sub light speed. I try to stay humble. I could do light speed if I *had* to though.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    borobodur was a shithole anyway, I hope those people starve there and start looting the temple. nothing but scammers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What was so bad about it?

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Indonesia needs to be nuked unironically. I've never been to a country before and decided to leave basically immediately. I will never ever go back to that fucking shit hole of a place.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what did you hate about it so much? Were you in Jakarta?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wtf when did this happen, I was planning on going in December. might cancel now

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am so sick of thailand. Some fucking gogodancer went with AN INDIAN instead of me. And another blackout drunk cootie had her bf waiting on A SCOOTER. See ya next week, indos.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Some fucking gogodancer went with AN INDIAN instead of me
      are you black or just an incel loser? You literally got outplayed by a pajeet kek

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I visited Borobudur today. The price hike hasnt been put in place but access to the temple itself it still forbidden. It'll open again once they finish some renovation and implement the new price.
    Place was basically empty, we were less than 30 circling around the temple.
    Felt bad for all the guides and souvenir sellers, they looked desperate (still didnt buy anything though)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh ya when's that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If I learned something visiting Indonesia is that when the government wants to do something, they dont tell anybody until the day before. Nobody knows shit

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no I guess all the scum will have go get real jobs instead of peddling trash to tourists.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dont care pedo

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how do we humble the brown asiatics mates

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based, fuck middle class tourists that shit up everything they touch the second they get freedom to wander somewhere without supervision

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      t. lower class tourist that cant afford to travel

      Just admit youre angry about your prospects in life and call it quits already. You wouldnt be able to see the Komodo Dragons even at $15 per day, and it makes you seethe with envy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would not pay money to look at lizards, anyways fuck middle class tourists

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how will this affect Bali?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      possibly fewer broke retards

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