Is Japan a meme? I'm planning a trip with a couple of friends.

Is Japan a meme? I'm planning a trip with a couple of friends.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's great outside of the main cities. Tokyo is endless urban sprawl with a metric frickton of morons. Kyoto is nice until you realize every shrine is basically the same. Osaka is a genuine shithole and has no business being part of the "golden triangle".

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what about Fukuoka and its vicinity?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it's great, anything west of Osaka is real Japan imo

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've been to Fukuoka a couple of times and there's not a lot going for it honestly. Enjoyable for a couple of days, but you're not going to find anything that the larger cities don't have.
        It's works best as a jumping-off point for the rest of Kyushu and places west of Osaka... to real kino places like Nagasaki and Yufuin

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't want to go full real traveler but seriously avoid the tourist places.
          99.9% of Japan is "real Japan", you don't need to get that far to actually see the country, but Shikoku and Kyushu are a safe bet for a good experience.

          Yufuin was the most disappointing place I've been in 6 months. My gf was actually angry about that place and how they're trying to sell it like some paradise in the mountains when it's just a walking street with souvenir shops and Koreans fighting to take a selfie at the lake (a small pond) and the mountains are barely average in their beauty.
          At least they had good donuts.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Any kyushu recommendations? I'm travelling by shinkansen/densha and have Fukuoka nagasaki, aso area and kagoshima on tbe list.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              In Fukuoka there are a bunch of yatai along the waterfront but they seem overly busy. Meanwhile my friend and I went to a few others like a quarter mile away, and while the sights were not interesting (a wide road and dark buildings) the people were really really nice and food was good. My only regret is not trying to engage in conversation with the Vietnamese lesbians that were sitting next to me, they seemed really nice.
              At one of them a trio of Tokyo college students were in town for a concert and it was fun flirting with them(in Japanese)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Visit Kagoshima, it's much more laid back yet there's plenty of stuff to do because of the volcano.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japan is the absolute maximum of the "exotic times safe" formula, which makes it very bizzare to visit. I haven't been truly excited to do anything while here, despite being enamored with the convenience of everything, attractiveness of the people and relative cheapness of the goods. Everything so far has felt basically homogeneous between neighborhoods besides the true countryside, which isn't really properly accessible to someone who's Japanese isn't N1. Japanese people speak terrible English and will hate you for making them speak it - but, some are very, very kind people who go out of their way to help tourists, too.
      Maybe I just watched too much anime? Shrines and castles are definitely not as interesting as in Europe, and all the little Japanese culture quirks seem cute but often annoying or uninteresting.
      I'll go to hell for saying this, but I think the only way to truly have "fun" as a tourist in Japan is to be an butthole and be rowdy, since that's the only thing I haven't done yet (and it seems pretty funny to frick with uptight Japanese people)

      >endless urban sprawl
      I'm assuming you're not American because the term is used very differently there

      what about Fukuoka and its vicinity?

      I'm in Fukuoka right now, it's interesting for sure but it doesn't feel much different than Tokyo in any substantial way. I've been suggested Hiroshima by a lot of Japanese people, maybe it's just a meme or retribution to them lol

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >besides the true countryside, which isn't really properly accessible to someone who's Japanese isn't N1
        I've been in the deepest parts of Shikoku and got around just fine.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Any tips? Places that are a must-see? I'm going in January. No car. My Japanese is fine though.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I've been on the 88 temple trail with thousands of other foreigners
          I'm not traveling, I'm basically living here for 3 months. 1 day in the forests is cool, but 3 months in a bumfrick village with half unoccupied houses and half elderly is not going to be fun for someone who can't even talk to the old people

          >I'm assuming you're not American because the term is used very differently there
          How so? Ultimately I don't care how Americans use it. Call it what you want, Tokyo is a concrete shithole.

          Urban sprawl in the US terminology is wasteful development where a lawn for a 3 person family matters more than the old growth forest they cut down to have that lawn. Tokyo is the exact opposite of that, since everything is optimized to reduce the amount of land used by roads and houses

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'd have fun larping at Tom Cruise in the last samurai
            >SAAKEEEE

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm assuming you're not American because the term is used very differently there
        How so? Ultimately I don't care how Americans use it. Call it what you want, Tokyo is a concrete shithole.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll go to hell for saying this, but I think the only way to truly have "fun" as a tourist in Japan is to be an butthole and be rowdy, since that's the only thing I haven't done yet (and it seems pretty funny to frick with uptight Japanese people)
        I noticed exactly this. My trip got 10x better when I went full baka gaijin mode and stopped giving a frick what judgy bugs thought of me.

        "Le honorable helpful Japanese" is a meme. They're bugs in an oppressive bug society that focuses on obsequious politeness to each other, they simply extend that fake politness to you as well, and you interpret it as genuine because you don't know any better.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine going to a top tier country and acting like a shithead.
          The Japanese were universally kind, polite, friendly and respectful to me.
          Act like a dumb butthole and be obnoxious in a society you are too moronic to be part of, you should be banned from Japan.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >top tier
            By what metric lol, frick I hate weebs so fricking much

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Clean, safe, culturally rich, great transit, respectful people, beautiful nature, tons of history, easy to navigate, little to no crime, decent amount of biological diversity ranging from Hokkaido to Okinawa, world's biggest city, restaurants are relatively cheap for a developed country, high trust society, no scammers, don't have to worry about pickpockets or thieves.
              Americans are to the Japanese as Nigerians are to Americans.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >calling Tokyo a single "city"

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                tokyo is a megalopolis

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Americans are to the Japanese as Nigerians are to Americans.
                I rarely ever encounter Nigerians in the US except for like the random refugee working as an uber driver and they seem alright especially compared to the african-americans born here.

                >I've been on the 88 temple trail with thousands of other foreigners
                I'm not traveling, I'm basically living here for 3 months. 1 day in the forests is cool, but 3 months in a bumfrick village with half unoccupied houses and half elderly is not going to be fun for someone who can't even talk to the old people
                [...]
                Urban sprawl in the US terminology is wasteful development where a lawn for a 3 person family matters more than the old growth forest they cut down to have that lawn. Tokyo is the exact opposite of that, since everything is optimized to reduce the amount of land used by roads and houses

                >Tokyo is the exact opposite of that, since everything is optimized to reduce the amount of land used by roads and houses
                It's not optimized by far, it was a warren of wood shacks leveled by firebombing during WWII and they hastily rebuilt concrete apartments but left all the streets the same size they were when people only walked around the city and they all go in random directions and start and end abruptly because they were laid out by peasants 200 years ago. They do pretty well with what they got but the optimized and efficient parts of Japan are the really boring satellite cities like Chiba where everything was laid out in a grid, giving people enough space to build on without being over top each other so the place still has sunlight and trees and train stations are evenly spaced apart.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm saying Tokyo's land usage is optimized compared to literally any western nation, which, it is - it's wide for sure, but it's tens of millions of people so that's inevitable.
                I've never been to Chiba, but my point is that optimal land use reduces the amount of land used - if people aren't "over top each other", it's not optimized to reduce the amount of land used and for that reason destroys the natural landscape that could've been there. It's unrefutable that building as tall of buildings as possible is better for reducing this damage.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            My friend got drunk and started calling the Japanese npcs and was trying to "wake them up". If you try to go up and talk to them they just turn away from you and look at the floor, kinda sad honestly, I was hoping one would tell him to frick off

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              they seriously do act like NPCs though

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The west deserves Chinese tour groups.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >safe, clean cities that rely entirely on surface-level politeness to work
          >bix nood muhfugga jap gir ugga dugga fake politness muh dik
          Le 56% moment

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll go to hell for saying this, but I think the only way to truly have "fun" as a tourist in Japan is to be an butthole and be rowdy, since that's the only thing I haven't done yet (and it seems pretty funny to frick with uptight Japanese people)
        I noticed exactly this. My trip got 10x better when I went full baka gaijin mode and stopped giving a frick what judgy bugs thought of me.

        "Le honorable helpful Japanese" is a meme. They're bugs in an oppressive bug society that focuses on obsequious politeness to each other, they simply extend that fake politness to you as well, and you interpret it as genuine because you don't know any better.

        Hopefully they throw you monkeys in the slammer with Johnny Somali.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll go to hell for saying this, but I think the only way to truly have "fun" as a tourist in Japan is to be an butthole and be rowdy, since that's the only thing I haven't done yet (and it seems pretty funny to frick with uptight Japanese people)
        I noticed exactly this. My trip got 10x better when I went full baka gaijin mode and stopped giving a frick what judgy bugs thought of me.

        "Le honorable helpful Japanese" is a meme. They're bugs in an oppressive bug society that focuses on obsequious politeness to each other, they simply extend that fake politness to you as well, and you interpret it as genuine because you don't know any better.

        you are both sad cynics who don't know how to have fun.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm an n3 speaker and had no issue in the Japanese countryside. Someone can easily get by as an n5 or worse speaker.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll go to hell for saying this, but I think the only way to truly have "fun" as a tourist in Japan is to be an butthole and be rowdy, since that's the only thing I haven't done yet (and it seems pretty funny to frick with uptight Japanese people)
        I noticed exactly this. My trip got 10x better when I went full baka gaijin mode and stopped giving a frick what judgy bugs thought of me.

        "Le honorable helpful Japanese" is a meme. They're bugs in an oppressive bug society that focuses on obsequious politeness to each other, they simply extend that fake politness to you as well, and you interpret it as genuine because you don't know any better.

        why do the japanese let people like these in
        it's not like they need the tourism money like thailand

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dortonbori is cool, but yeah Osaka was overhyped, got sick of it after a day. It's really just a base to go to places like Nara and Himeji, the city itself is just a mini Tokyo but shittier

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's cool in Nara?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's basically a giant deer petting zoo. And there's some cool temples

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Picking up girls in japan with 3 of my friends was the most fun I ever had

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How hard is it? I'm a relatively okay looking guy and I'm tall. Also I'm white, obviously.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How/where/how old?

        [...]

        like moths to a flame

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you too, my man

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How/where/how old?

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japan is great fun, especially with friends. Korea is great too if you're into partying.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    use the general you homosexual. we dont need a 100th weeb thread

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's on page 10

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can actually see smog in certain areas of Tokyo like Shibuya, idk why anyone would defend it as if were a flawless city

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Literally anywhere in the city. If you're white and especially tall, you'll stand out anyways.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there good areas off the beaten track? Going with my father soon and we have some museums and whatnot down to visit, but I'm fishing for suggestions from anons that have been.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice job saying what city

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you want off the beaten path you gotta work for it. Try wikivoyage and choose a part of the city other people aren't frequently recommending. Expect to have some disappointments when you wander into Meguro and find it's 99% residential, but then you'll end up in [redacted] and find yourself having a great time.
      It helps if you or your dad have a specific autistic interest. For me, as an example, I had a fun conversation with the bloke at the gravesite of Toyotomi Hideyoshi. But if you're off the beaten path you better speak Nipponese to have those conversations.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    how many japan threads does this board need?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      maybe 10 more

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      one more with no morons

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      All of them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      japan general is awful

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not over hyped, had intense cultural shock and still had it the 2nd time around, it's like an alternate universe.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's kind of like a shit hong kong

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    its rampant over tourism now. Just go in Jan/feb and avoid burgers

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It feels like I'm in a giant theme park, I haven't gone anywhere where there wasn't at least a few white people stumbling around. I feel like the Japanese see them (us) like they do the deer wandering around Nara, just there walking around, maybe you feed them once in a while

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why weebs are so insufferable?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lack of life experience coupled with a romanticized view of Japan through wasted years of anime and manga consumption. They don't know any better.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, its awfully boring, of course i'm solo and can't speak japanese so that might make it worse. But I cant believe I fell for the meme. It was way more interesting travelling and living in latam

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >traveling
      that's the thing, how can you ever compare working to times when you get to travel

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's a gay meme, don't go

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it worth taking a full day travel detour to see shirakawa-go during my 10 day japan stay? Going Osaka (2days) -> Kyoto (2days) -> Tokyo (6 days)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I did a daytrip to Shirakawago from Tokyo. The place is really beautiful and despite the time it requires to get there, the transport is quite smooth. Be sure to book bus tickets in advance (you have many options in that regard) and dress accordingly to the season. The snowfall there can be really heavy. Also there will be many tourists, which takes a bit of the idyllic nature away. Imagine the worst kind of chinese tourists, blocking entire streets because they want to get thousand pictures of themself. And they happen to be really loud aswell. But all that aside, it is definetely a place worth seeing.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Japan really as soulless and bug-eyed as people make it out to be?
    For me I fear if I visit there everything, including the landscape and architeture, is just going to be the equivalent of a skinny Japanese salaryman bowing and saying arigotogozaimusu.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it might be the people that ruin it for me. They look palid and sickly with their skin tones. It's not like a robust and cheerful skin tone that complements the environment. It feels like it works against it and you see a lot of them. I think it's why I feel unneasy about going there.

      What? No. It's incredibly soulful. Much more than North America. Japanese are autistic but they are not soulless.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it might be the people that ruin it for me. They look palid and sickly with their skin tones. It's not like a robust and cheerful skin tone that complements the environment. It feels like it works against it and you see a lot of them. I think it's why I feel unneasy about going there.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best place to find pristine, untouched pow in Japan?
    I KNOW they have that shit, the world’s snowiest city is in Japan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >untouched
      No such thing unless you either wake up early and be the first up there or go for a heli drop.
      Hakuba, Niseko, Zao are my top picks.
      Hakuba takes the cake just for the sheer amount of resorts, it's an entire valley hosting 10 resorts.

      Pic is Tsugaike in Hakuba. Went 4x last season, around 20 days total. Will be up in Niseko next week.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1 week Singapore 2 weeks Bali or
    3 weeks Japan
    or 1 week Singapore 2 weeks Japan?

    How much would 3 weeks in Japan cost? What's the best time of year to go? I'm not a weeb and know literally nothing about Japan but my friend said it was the best place he ever visited so it put it on the radar

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to stay in Japan for 3 months out of the year, which is basically how long I can stay in 1 trip anyways 😛 I run an online business where basically my only "job" is to reorder supplies for it. Will Japan get pissed if I'm doing that while living in Japan or is it basically a non issue. A couple of Redditors got their panties in a bunch over it saying they'd "take away my laptop" or "revoke visa access" for "working" in Japan. Even though my activity doesn't take away jobs from Japanese people, and it only takes me 20 minutes every 3 weeks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would they even find out? And you go to Reddit for advice of all places?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will get deported and barred from entry if found out, yes. Unfortunately, I doubt it will happen.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Help me plan a visit to Mount Fuji area next week, need a train ticket and itinerary

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