Is living in California really that bad?

Is living in California really that bad? They got great weather, beautiful scenery, a big economy, good universities, cities with shit to do, etc. Of course there is the drawbacks of liberal anarchy and price but is it worth working for?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you're rich and can live in the bougie areas, sure.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      its about a million people living the absolute dream and thirty-nine million people chasing that dream who support those at the top. some of those chasers even make it, but the odds are not good.

      there's not much bad to say about the state. it does have it all.

      everythings too expensive
      unless you live right on the coast, summer is an oven and every piece of "beautiful nature" around you is hideous yellow grass dotted with stupid fricking blue oaks and depleted lakes because it doesnt rain. Every single major city is full of homeless people

      the central valley is a shithole and theres frick all to do if you live in the mountains

      https://i.imgur.com/giAWn3R.jpg

      It's paradise if you're rich and with other rich people

      either bring a shitload of money or be a bum. anything in between is slavery

      I wish I wasn't poor

      https://i.imgur.com/QRKR82x.jpg

      I moved to Orange County from Maryland 13 years ago. I will never move back to the east coast. The positives of living here far outweigh the negatives if you can afford it.

      Unless you make more than 180K, you can forget about owning a house within 10 miles of the beach. We pay $2400/month for rent in a luxury condo near Laguna Beach. The photo is one of the 5 pools in my complex. The neighborhood is insanely nice and we've been here for 3 years. The weather is literally perfect for 99 percent of the year. It rarely ever gets below 60 or above 90. It usually rains about 7 times during the day all year. The beaches in OC are amazing. There are a ton of spots that the tourists don't go to. People are super friendly in Orange County. It's a lot less pretentious than LA. You will never run out of restaurants to try. The women are insanely hot.

      Pros:
      Weather
      Beaches
      Nightlife
      Asian Food
      Beautiful women
      epic hiking
      skiing less than 2 hours away
      roundtrip flights to vegas for $120.
      theme parks
      endless outdoor activities

      Cons
      Rent and Home Prices
      LA Traffic
      summer crowds at popular spots
      terrible pizza

      So it is all people make it out to be, time to find a high paying job

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you and your wife both make good money and get enough to buy a house somewhere nice it can be phenomenal

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its about a million people living the absolute dream and thirty-nine million people chasing that dream who support those at the top. some of those chasers even make it, but the odds are not good.

    there's not much bad to say about the state. it does have it all.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's paradise if you're rich and with other rich people

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    everythings too expensive
    unless you live right on the coast, summer is an oven and every piece of "beautiful nature" around you is hideous yellow grass dotted with stupid fricking blue oaks and depleted lakes because it doesnt rain. Every single major city is full of homeless people

    the central valley is a shithole and theres frick all to do if you live in the mountains

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      spoken like a true fresnan

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        sierra foothills, actually

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    either bring a shitload of money or be a bum. anything in between is slavery

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some universities in California are located right next to the ghetto with homeless that have murdered students such as UC Berkeley and USC

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    High AC bills.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I moved to Orange County from Maryland 13 years ago. I will never move back to the east coast. The positives of living here far outweigh the negatives if you can afford it.

    Unless you make more than 180K, you can forget about owning a house within 10 miles of the beach. We pay $2400/month for rent in a luxury condo near Laguna Beach. The photo is one of the 5 pools in my complex. The neighborhood is insanely nice and we've been here for 3 years. The weather is literally perfect for 99 percent of the year. It rarely ever gets below 60 or above 90. It usually rains about 7 times during the day all year. The beaches in OC are amazing. There are a ton of spots that the tourists don't go to. People are super friendly in Orange County. It's a lot less pretentious than LA. You will never run out of restaurants to try. The women are insanely hot.

    Pros:
    Weather
    Beaches
    Nightlife
    Asian Food
    Beautiful women
    epic hiking
    skiing less than 2 hours away
    roundtrip flights to vegas for $120.
    theme parks
    endless outdoor activities

    Cons
    Rent and Home Prices
    LA Traffic
    summer crowds at popular spots
    terrible pizza

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      tbh $2400/month for a luxury condo is a lot better than I thought.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my opinion, your condo developers should have provided a lot more shade for the outdoor swimming pools since in just two hours, the sun can lower the chlorine level of swimming pools by as much as 90%

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe that's why he has hepatitis?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        lol. I don't actually use the big pool. There is a smaller pool across from my condo that doesn't have a shallow end, and therefore, no kids use it. It's a salt water pool, so I'm not sure they use much chlorine.

        Isn't orange county famous for stuck up, upper middle class, whites and asians
        Like let me speak to your manager types

        Orange County is one of the most populated counties in the US. It's pretty diverse depending on which area you're in. The beaches are all super expensive. Huntington Beach has a few apartment complexes that start around 2400, but they are pretty dumpy at that price.

        Anaheim and Santa Ana are where the Hispanics live and where all the crime happens. Garden Grove is where all the middle class Asians are. Irvine is a mix of tech people. Newport and Laguna is where the absurdly wealthy White people are.

        The overall vibe in Orange County is pretty laid back. I spent 9 years living in Newport Beach and I saw one fist fight on the 4th of July and I saw a few people get busted for stealing beer from the Liquor store. That was really it. If you have the dough, I highly recommend living out here.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What do you think of Santa Monica?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The moment you use the word diverse I just assume youre a moron spouting buzzwords

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't really mean "diverse" as a positive thing. Segregated and diverse would be a better way of describing OC. We stay out of Santa Ana and Anaheim unless we're going to see a band or doing Disneyland.

            Garden is pretty amazing though for food. You can get some really fricking good Vietnamese and AYCE Korean BBQ in Garden Grove.

            >I'm serious when I say California probably has the MOST open and discourse allowed on campus

            I went to cal, and you are absolutely full of shit you libtard. They literally hold protests anytime some republican shows up to give a speech.

            I lived in Marin County across the bridge from SF. I found most people to be insanely uptight and extremely liberal. We were watching the superbowl with a group, and a lady literally jumped in front of the tv during the Shakira halftime show and started screaming about "rape culture" because she thought the dancing was sexual. You should have read the email that my girlfriend's HR department sent out after Trump won the election. They said openly that if anyone gloated or celebrated at work, they would fire you.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Orange County is an absolute shithole

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            My condo in Laguna is just visible in this photo. Post a photo of your neighborhood. If I like it better, maybe I'll move there. I work remotely and I can live wherever I want. If there really is some magic place that I don't know about, I'd be up for a vacation.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't orange county famous for stuck up, upper middle class, whites and asians
      Like let me speak to your manager types

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. Orange County is known to be mostly white and mostly rightwing/republican. There's even a neighborhood where everyone owns a German Shepherd.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      2400 for a luxury condo near Laguna Beach?
      Thats a hella bargain anon, 2400 is the price for some fricking studio's here in LA.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We pay $2400/month for rent in a luxury condo near Laguna Beach
      that is bullshit unless you bought your condo like a decade ago. dont listen to this anon. $2400 is what I pay for a condo I bought in Temecula about a year and a half ago. $1800 wont even pay rent for a dumpy single room apartment in the ghetto let alone anywhere near somewhere nice like laguna

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        We rent. We don't own. When we got in to the condo, it was in the middle of the lockdown. All the tech companies had just purged everyone and rent prices were really low. Our unit is actually only like 900 square feet, but we have 14 foot vaulted ceilings, no units connected to us on all 4 sides, a gated parking garage, a pool that no one uses 100 feet from our door. It's super quiet and we've never had an issue with the neighbors in 3 years. We're planning to stay another 2 years until we buy something. buy the time we move out, our rent will have increased 10 percent per year. We'll likely be paying about 3000/month in the last year..

        You can still find a smaller unit in our complex for 2700 a month.

        I grew up in Huntington Beach, right on Huntington Street less than a mile away from the pier. I remember lots of days in the summer hitting 100. It just didn't seem that bad because I'd spent most of that time in the water.

        Nah. It breaks 90 like 3 days a year. Here is the weather for August of last year. It sounds to me like maybe you flunked out of school, or got in some legal trouble and had to flee. Now you cope by telling yourself that you hated California all along.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like you're just lying and simping for a mediocre area to convince yourself you didn't make a bad decision.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since you appear to be a rich person, can you help explain why a billionaire like Bill Gates would buy a house in San Diego because I just do not see the appeal of San Diego. If Orange County is so great, why did Bill Gates pick San Diego over Orange County? In fact, I heard that San Diego beaches are often dirty and smelly due to all the wild sea lions pooping everywhere. When I picture San Diego in my head, I see it very low on the list of potential places a billionaire would buy a house at. After all, most people imagine your average billionaire would buy a private island in Hawaii and not some tacky looking mansion in San Diego.

      >Picture related: Bill Gates' 43 million dollar bachelor pad in San Diego

      https://nypost.com/2022/03/23/bill-gates-is-turning-43m-mansion-into-bachelor-pad-nuisance/

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sand Dog has its own vibe. Most of Cali has its own vibe. You're talking about a state that's almost the size of Japan, so think about how many culturally distinct pockets that can exist in that space. OC, the 909, LA, mid Cal, Ventura county, Nor Cal, etc. they're all different.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's actually not in the city of San Diego. He bought a place in Del Mar right in front of the dog beach in San Diego county. It's a huge county. That's a very chill little spot. Definitely no homeless people there because it's 15 miles outside the city.

        Sounds like you're just lying and simping for a mediocre area to convince yourself you didn't make a bad decision.

        Why were you forced to leave? You into drugs or something? You parents kick you out when stole the TV and sold it for drugs?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >round-trip to Vegas for $120
      That's every airport in America. Why wouldn't you just drive the 3 hours

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >super friendly in Orange County. It's a lot less pretentious than LA
      Troll detected.

      >Big economy
      Do you have a job lined up to participate in it? And there are other big economies elsewhere or remote; this sounds like a throwaway bullet point in some travel guide.
      >Good uni
      They do have good unis, depending. But if you're not gonna go to one specifically for a specific reason, then that's not a plus. Uni people don't spill out into the general population the way they do elsewhere.
      >Cities with shit to do
      Utterly not, and that's the biggest scam Cali has. In comparison to NYC, Tokyo, London, and the like, Cali cities are fricking boring and dead. Why? Because the urban planning made it so nobody organically meets one another, so the only way to get into anything fun is to know people, which heavily incentivizes the fake schmoozing bullshit Cali is famous for so that you always have some "friend" somewhere who can invite you to a party, and you better be in their good graces for it. And when you go, it's just not as world class as it should be. The museums, the bars and clubs, the shows, the activities, they aren't bad, but they should be way higher quality. And for the prices they charge, definitely.
      >People
      Everyone is fake as frick in the worst way. In most places in the country, people lean hard to either tell you the truth or to follow through with niceness out of obligation. In Cali, people have the desire to be perceived as nice, but feel none of the obligation, so they act c**ty and flaky and it's insufferable.

      Besides everything else, Cali just does not provide sufficient returns for your investment. If it cost less, or had more world class stuff that's actually world class instead of pretending, or what have you, then maybe. But as it stands, it truly is a culture-less shithole running on the fumes of its decades-old glory with no intention of improvement.

      > >Cities with shit to do
      >Utterly not, and that's the biggest scam Cali has. In comparison to NYC, Tokyo, London, and the like
      This. The reason is the density per mile is super low because before 1990 everything was low rise because of earthquakes, EVERY thing in la is a commute and expensive. I never run out of things to do in Tokyo or places to eat in New York. LA is by far the worst “major city” around for big city vibes. It’s just a overgrown suburb , people don’t go out much because it’s too expensive to have a good time and the local police act like a gustapo drag net if you dare drive your car after 11pm.

      https://i.imgur.com/5497bt4.jpg

      Is living in California really that bad? They got great weather, beautiful scenery, a big economy, good universities, cities with shit to do, etc. Of course there is the drawbacks of liberal anarchy and price but is it worth working for?

      It’s one of the few places in the world that is *losing* population yearly, think about that. Pretty much every state in the world is growing but not CA, ask why?
      It is unsafe, not in your little pocket areas, but you can’t just wonder around. Want to go to that cool spot in midtown? Figure out where you are parking for it to be safe, leave in time before the windshield smashers come and actually let’s not bother this weekend.
      It’s even worse in the rural areas, everything is a chain restaurant, everything is mid.
      You pay the CA weather and city primiuam even if you live 3 hours from the nearest beach or sports ball stadium.
      San Fran is worse San de is slightly better but not really.
      Don’t get me wrong, the east coast is worse for different reasons.
      Also btw it has the worst male to female ratio of places I have checked , you are fricked as a single guy.
      The price of pussy is insanely inflated here I see 4/10 hogs driving around with BMW boyfriends.
      It’s still not really clear. Basically most places have some good points and bad points, but everything in CA is sort of a 5/10 (food/work/fun/culture/etc). Which somehow adds up to being worse than the sum of its parts.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its becoming impossible for a normal young person without rich parents to afford living here. its fricking bullshit, feels like a playground for rich and retired people

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. is your family isn't literally grandfathered into land/housing it's impossible if you aren't rich

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >20% state taxes
    >insane cost of living
    >whiny californian accent
    >everyone is a screeching liberal or cowardly closeted neocon
    >woke culture infesting every college

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Never been and just read other chuds opinions online

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I grew up in Newport Beach and went to a UC you little pedophile. Thank God I got out.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this. Frick California and everything it represents. Lived in Fresno for 15 years and LA for 5 and never going back. Imagine paying top tier prices for piss poor services and having to live with Hispanic people that try so hard to look white but forget to where civilization starts and ends in their day to day behavior.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Is living in California really that bad?
    Yes.

    >They got great weather
    The Bay Area has nice weather, but everywhere else gets really hot.

    >beautiful scenery
    If you're willing to drive outside of the massive concrete sprawl.

    >a big economy
    That's contracting at one of the fastest rates in the country, with a state that's saddled with debt, and the highest overall combined tax rates in the country.

    >good universities
    Dropping in quality, very fast.

    >cities with shit to do
    Cities filled with shit. I had a job offer in Century City in 2019. On the 20 minute drive from LAX I counted at least a dozen human shits on the ground.

    >Of course there is the drawbacks of liberal anarchy and price but is it worth working for?
    If you make over $150k/year for each person in your household it is. The job only offered me 95k so I turned them down.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's LA. OC is nothing like that. My complex backs up to 1000's of acres of undeveloped mountains and hills. The weather rarely ever breaks 90 degrees. But 95K would definitely be on the low side for living in socal. That I agree with.

      I grew up in Newport Beach and went to a UC you little pedophile. Thank God I got out.

      Newport Beach is one of the most conservative towns in California. They vote 60+ percent republican in every election. Less than 20 percent voted for Biden in the last election.

      What do you think of Santa Monica?

      Santa Monica pier is fun to walk around for a day. I wouldn't trust to lay my shit on the beach and get in the water or someone would steal it. I definitely wouldn't live there. You either pay out of the ass for a gated complex, or you live in a dump. The homeless problem is very real. And it's super ghetto on the weekends in the summer, especially at night.

      2400 for a luxury condo near Laguna Beach?
      Thats a hella bargain anon, 2400 is the price for some fricking studio's here in LA.

      We got in during covid at the absolute lowest. If you moved in today, our unit is 3400/month.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I grew up in Huntington Beach, right on Huntington Street less than a mile away from the pier. I remember lots of days in the summer hitting 100. It just didn't seem that bad because I'd spent most of that time in the water.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Santa Monica bay always seems to get sewage spills so I definitely understand why nobody would want to take a dip in the water

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I lived where you are in the 90's.
        Expect your rent to go UP to 4k next time you resign your lease, unless you're one of those 'lucky' larpers that signed a 50 year 2400/mo lease lol.
        Its a great place to live, albeit super expensive. As you get older, your income will go up but not as much as prices around you. Eventually you'll be forced to move into a shitty area or somewhere back east. Happens all the time.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          10 percent rent increase is the max in Orange County right now. They passed a new law in 2019.

          You can look up some of the really nice apartments in Irvine. The Promenade in Irvine has units for $2,800 right now. It's pretty reasonable to think that they would have been $2,400 2 years ago during covid. Looks pretty fricking dope to me.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >paying $3k in rent
            >dope
            we're so lost

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Good universities
      >dropping in quality
      I can attest to this I didn't even follow my final milestone assignment instructions and I stilled passed earning an A on the assignment and am now graduating. Degrees are a meme

      California is alright, too many homeless now, with liberal dictatorships being the new political party for the wealthy privileged few and surprising everyone in this state just goes along with it.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its on borrowed time.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is living in California really that bad?
    The COL is the highest in the world without anything to make up for it. The weather and scenery is good...IF you live on the coast (which 99% of Californians do not). Most of California is a desert shithole that is either hot as hell or freezing. In that area you either live in a ghetto, a bario, or in a sea of suburbs. Regardless you are commuting an hour to and from wherever you go every day and gas is insanely high. I have lived here my whole life and cant get out despite being a software developer.

    also all of the universities here suck. They are filled with ghetto FAFSA morons who have no business being in college. They are essentially just machines for making more debt slaves and nothing else

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Despite what terminally online seething fricks say California is fine, yes it has homeless and a housing crisis just like all 49 other states, yes it has high taxes, etc etc. Lots of problems and yet folks still want to move and live here. I personally would not want to live in the state if making under six figures, I realize that makes some anons clutch their pearls, but then if that's a deal breaker go be poor in Texas or whatever. California lives rent free in people's minds lol

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ventura is an underrated town where you can get a beach front apartment for ~$2500 a month. it never gets hot, never really gets cold because its on the Oxnard plain. LA is a 30 minute drive. I liked living there, it was comfy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd second Ventura. In fact much of the county. Don't fall into the trap of living in a place like Simi Valley and trying to commute to LA.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    About 6 years ago I had a shitty apartment in a very low cost of living area. My company offered me a job in SoCal with a modest raise, but they offered me a taxable $1800 monthly stipend to help with living expenses. I did the math and with California taxes it would have still cost me about $800 more every month after the stipend than what I was paying back home

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is living in California really that bad?
    it can be

    >They got great weather, beautiful scenery
    ofcourse, probably one of the most admirable features of this state

    >a big economy
    if you live there, you will not be able to keep your wealth- they have it there where it only circulates in that state

    >good universities
    used to be. Probably back in the 1960's-1980's. Now, if you have been living under a rock, those same universities are now overrun by wannabe utopian, Communist supporting or Marxist supporting professors from the 1960's generation. Those institutions no longer enable free speech or learning the truth about the world. Other states offer better- if not a much greater, actual education.

    >cities with shit to do
    other states have this.

    >drawbacks of liberal anarchy and price
    California is in deep denial of how corrupt its leadership actually is. I feel bad for the people that stay and hope things will change- but it wont.

    >but is it worth working for?
    dont be fooled by movies, TV shows or video games. You'll be trapped like some drug-addled lunatic and you won't be able to leave. You will realize a decade had passed and your life did not get any progress towards the better. It's all bullshit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a good take if you've never lived in California and then moved anywhere else. The US is fallen, Black person. I'd rather be back in California with nice weather and interesting vistas rather than being stuck on the east coast.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm serious when I say California probably has the MOST open and discourse allowed on campus. Some of the students are gays (many are not), but even Cal Berkeley and Stanford are pretty open and honest. Stanford recently made news telling its whiny students to grow a pair and stop being triggered.

    Nobody even comes close to California's trade schools and community colleges, truly best in class nationwide. The cost and quality of the education is unparalleld.

    This is obviously to train the people who can then be dramatically underpaid to fill vital roles supporting the lifestyle of the wealthy liberal elite. But nothing is keeping you in California after you finish.

    You can the Californian lifestyle elsewhere in the mountain west, just minus the coast. That's fine, the beaches are better in Florida anyways.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm serious when I say California probably has the MOST open and discourse allowed on campus
      yeah okay lying groomer. You can literally just Google UC Berkeley and you will see for yourself the "discourse" that they allow. You all just continunously lie

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You all just continunously lie
        Classic liberal gaslighting. Just deny the problem exists, unless faced with undeniable proof it exists, then say it's A Good Thing Actually™ that is inevitable and leave it at that.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I went to UC Berkeley. The vast majority of students are not overtly political. Vast majority of students are there to get a CS degree or something related and get a job in Silicon Valley or big tech after graduation.

        The Berkeley of the 70s does not exist anymore. It's kind of a shame that it doesn't honestly but your opinions on Berkeley are likely outdated

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Big Bear and Mammoth are underrated places to live imo. especially if you are working remote.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm serious when I say California probably has the MOST open and discourse allowed on campus

      I went to cal, and you are absolutely full of shit you libtard. They literally hold protests anytime some republican shows up to give a speech.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The "they" you are talking about are the ASUC types who major in polisci and pre-law. thats less than 2% of the campus population

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They can protest all they want, its about the institutional support they get. In California these schools have gotten much more adept at standing up to their students on a level you are not seeing elsewhere in the country except odd examples like U Chicago (which got out in front of this more than a decade ago in way that was remarkably prescient). Five years ago? It was an echo chamber. Now its not as much.

        You can sense the pendulum shift in a lot of California. I'm not saying its going to turn into Montana's government, but its in some very nascent stage of changing its identity.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't come here. I am a resident, and many people I know personally have said they'd move out if they had the money. The memes about it being ridden with economic disparity, crime, inflation, and sheltered rich white dems who worsen them are true. Small businesses that don't hike their prices for wealthy people have been shutting down left and right, and unless you make a fortune or are from a family that's already lived here for decades, settling down in California is untenable. If you're thinking of going to uni here, there are fantastic stem and law programs but avoid anything else. What said is also true and unlike

        https://i.imgur.com/L17AbhT.jpg

        The "they" you are talking about are the ASUC types who major in polisci and pre-law. thats less than 2% of the campus population

        you'll find these people in every study. Just avoid talking about politics when its not necessary to discuss them, work toward your degree, and you'll be fine though.

        Big Bear and Mammoth are underrated places to live imo. especially if you are working remote.

        If you have the money these are solid places. Just be an outdoor enthusiast and have access to high speed internet.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Big Bear is surprisingly cheap by california standards. you can get a nice cabin for under $2k a month.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So is Colorado better then?

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Liberals made it pretty bad unless you're rich. It used to be Conservative which attracted lots of ppl who destroyed it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The GOP destroyed California with the infinity foreign invaders and welfare.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The GOP destroyed California with the infinity foreign invaders and welfare.
        This. Never forget that it was Reagan who passed that amnesty for immigrants that was a decisive factor in removing his own party from power in the state. Cuckservatives forever losing.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        white people aren't native to California, back to Europe you go

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This one guy is shilling hard and I'm happy for him, but here's my perspective of what life is like in Los Angeles and San Diego

    >a feeling of transience in relationships (LA)
    >emphasis on health, fitness, being active, and outdoors (SD)
    >people in LA living trying to make some ill-defined dream "come true", people in SD feel like they are already living the dream
    >overall chiller, smarter/more educated, more professional in SD than LA
    >you can get to anywhere in SD in about 20 minutes, you can't even drive 5 miles in LA in that time

    Compared to the NYC, though, California is more rootless, less family-oriented, and not as interested in engaging in "high class" cultural stand-bys like art, literature, and music as NYC. It's not uncommon for families in California to be the only branch of their extended family in the state. Conversely, it's not uncommon to have your entire extended family in the NY area. Definitely things to think about for your future if you plan on marrying.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Those are just your impressions of southern California though. It's hard to quantify high culture. NYC has the most museums per capita of any US city, but Los Angeles actually has the most museums in total. California is also responsible for the majority of the major films, television shows and music produced in the US.
      You can't possibly know that Californian's are less family oriented than in NYC, or that New Yorkers are more interested in culture and education. Statistically, 42 percent of people over age 25 in Orange County have a bachelor's degree, compared with 39 percent in NYC. If you're going to make bold claims, you have to back that up with more than some silly bullet points that you wrote in half complete sentences.

      If you want my impression of NYC, it's a city filled with miserable israelites with huge swaths of neighborhoods of black criminals. The noise of the city is literal psychological torture. The weather is cold and gloomy for 9 months of the winter, followed by 3 days of spring, and then 3 months of unbearable humidity in the summer. Living there is like being trapped in a never ending nightmare.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You can't possibly know that Californian's are less family oriented than in NYC, or that New Yorkers are more interested in culture and education.
        As someone who's lived in New York, believe me when I say that 90% of the population there doesn't give a damn about culture.

        Among people wealthy enough to afford the education needed to appreciate it, it's different. But you could say that about California or really anywhere else as well.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    LA resident for a little over a year
    compared to the other cities i've been in LA swings a lot. The nice parts are fairly clean and very nice, but the poorer spots are definitely a little run down. The only time i've felt unsafe is public transport and when I've been caught around the fashion district late at night without a ride. It's definitely pricey to live here though, I make 115k and i consider myself to be reasonable frugal, but i've only managed to save less than 40k since I got here. If you do not own a car this place is awful, expect to spend double or triple the time of what google maps tells you, missing busses, etc. The food is really good, asian culture is everywhere, though hard to feel the chinese presence unless you live east of downtown. Lots of little pockets of japanese people, and of course koreatown. Nature has been OK for the most part, fairly varied landscape between sandy and rocky beaches, desert hikes, forested hikes. The people are OK, most are pretty laid back, but the people on edge (lots of people trying to make it in the entertainment industry) are hyper aggressive and will ruin your day if you do anything wrong at all around them. Homeless population is concentrated in pockets, and generally just drugged out so fairly passive. Like any other city you get the faint waft of piss and shit every now and then. You also have a huge Hispanic population who either do very hard and good work, or cut as many corners as they can, makes picking up odd labor, or cheap street food very hit or miss. I have friends who make closer to the 75 and 85k range, and while they definitely don't spend recklessly, they can afford to live pretty reasonably good lifestyles. Entertainment is good if you like getting drunk at bars, lots of museums, the libraries have been okish so far, lots of music, but not a lot of indie music unless it's rap. All in all its an OK place to live if you have a car and upper midrange salary.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Entertainment is good if you like getting drunk at bars, lots of museums, the libraries have been okish so far, lots of music, but not a lot of indie music unless it's rap. All in all its an OK place to live if you have a car and upper midrange salary.
      How can you even enjoy going out in a city where you have to rely on driving? American urbanism is lame.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    All right frick it I'm moving to california after college. I like the ocean, the heat, living near a lot of people, the art, etc. Are there any good places in the LA area, maybe orange county?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's laguna beach. That building is literally 4 minutes from my front door. There aren't many options in Laguna, but Irvine is the next city down and it's super nice. Laguna Woods has some decent apartments too, but they aren't as nice

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lived in LA for 4 years, SD for 2, been back and forth throughout the years, driven from top to bottom, stayed in SF and random spots a lot.

    This place is shit, and I haven't found anyone who's extensively traveled who thinks otherwise.

    >Weather
    No? People's definition of good weather seems to be "no blizzards in the winter." Cali can and does get cold enough to wear sweaters and feel chilly in the winter, and though it isn't as cold as somewhere that dips below freezing, if you have to deal with the cold at all that's a loss for me. Depending on where you are in the state it can either be cloudy and muggy waaay too much, or it's a burning hot cloudless sky. I can't fathom why people can look at a cloudless sky and think it's beautiful. Really stare at it and you'll find it's pretty fricking gross.
    >Scenery
    Not bad, but not leagues better than lots of other places in the country or abroad. In America alone, there are cooler mountains in Washington/Colorado, better deserts in all the desert states, chiller and warmer and clearer beaches on the east coast, et cetera. If by scenery you mean city and town vibes, no fricking way. The cities and towns in Cali are wide road strip mall garbage FILLED with homeless people. That always sounds like a meme, but homeless are FRICKING, EVERYWHERE. I feel for them, but it brings your spirits down regardless.

    1/2

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Big economy
      Do you have a job lined up to participate in it? And there are other big economies elsewhere or remote; this sounds like a throwaway bullet point in some travel guide.
      >Good uni
      They do have good unis, depending. But if you're not gonna go to one specifically for a specific reason, then that's not a plus. Uni people don't spill out into the general population the way they do elsewhere.
      >Cities with shit to do
      Utterly not, and that's the biggest scam Cali has. In comparison to NYC, Tokyo, London, and the like, Cali cities are fricking boring and dead. Why? Because the urban planning made it so nobody organically meets one another, so the only way to get into anything fun is to know people, which heavily incentivizes the fake schmoozing bullshit Cali is famous for so that you always have some "friend" somewhere who can invite you to a party, and you better be in their good graces for it. And when you go, it's just not as world class as it should be. The museums, the bars and clubs, the shows, the activities, they aren't bad, but they should be way higher quality. And for the prices they charge, definitely.
      >People
      Everyone is fake as frick in the worst way. In most places in the country, people lean hard to either tell you the truth or to follow through with niceness out of obligation. In Cali, people have the desire to be perceived as nice, but feel none of the obligation, so they act c**ty and flaky and it's insufferable.

      Besides everything else, Cali just does not provide sufficient returns for your investment. If it cost less, or had more world class stuff that's actually world class instead of pretending, or what have you, then maybe. But as it stands, it truly is a culture-less shithole running on the fumes of its decades-old glory with no intention of improvement.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Born and raised and fell into the trap of “California is the only place to be” in terms of food, culture, nature…it’s all bullshit cope. We’re paying 1700 for studio apartments and waiting in lines for 40 minutes everywhere you go for overpriced shit now. Whatever California was as I knew and loved is gone. It’s corny transplants moving in and changing it in their way. No point in paying a premium to live in a place when things close at 9pm everywhere now and everything coming in is some shitty smashburger and shitlib football style slop with $19 Al pastor tacos. To get back to it, do not fall for the “California is the only cool place and you will have fomo not being here.” Complete crap. So many other places with less crowds, cool shit to do, and more bang for your buck.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Born and raised and fell into the trap of “California is the only place to be” in terms of food, culture, nature…it’s all bullshit cope. We’re paying 1700 for studio apartments and waiting in lines for 40 minutes everywhere you go for overpriced shit now. Whatever California was as I knew and loved is gone. It’s corny transplants moving in and changing it in their way. No point in paying a premium to live in a place when things close at 9pm everywhere now and everything coming in is some shitty smashburger and shitlib football style slop with $19 Al pastor tacos. To get back to it, do not fall for the “California is the only cool place and you will have fomo not being here.” Complete crap. So many other places with less crowds, cool shit to do, and more bang for your buck.

        Based on your rambling, half-completed sentences, I'm going to assume that you didn't go to college and that you have a low paying job. As I'm sure this is the case, California is obviously not for you. If your idea of culture are tacos and bars that stay open late, why would you want to live there anyway? You could live in Las Vegas for 1/4 of the price.

        The reason why southern California is awesome is because people with money don't have to socialize with the lower class. They get to live in segregated neighborhoods like Newport Beach that you can't afford. They eat in meals in restaurants that would cost what you make in 2 weeks at work. If I were working in a Wal-Mart in Compton, I'd probably be pretty bitter too. Luckily you and I will never cross paths unless I'm waiting for you to finish trimming the hedges, detail my car, or possibly changing my oil.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          We really are hurtling towards techno-feudalism lol

          Let's hope one of Lord Elon's many sons takes a liking to one of my future daughters

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nice larp homosexual

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's really not as bad as everyone says it is. Work is easy to find and dodging the police is pretty easy. It's globohomosexual central, but that's easy to ignore unless you're raising a family. If that's the case, move to either the Lost Coast or San Diego, depending on what flavor of California you want.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think California is shit even if you’re rich. The American West is a cool place to hike through, but actually living there basically sucks.

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