Anywhere that isn't dirt cheap. It's a fairly basic meal, so you just want to be sure they're quality ingredients and not sausages made out of brains and arseholes.
Lock-ins are generally for people who knows the owners, a friend of a friend maybe. You won't find one as a tourist as they're not really legal. London has tons of clubs that are open to 8am and are better than a lot of raves I've been too, you won't struggle to find nightlife.
Dunno, I don't trust their hygiene practices.
Heathrow is one of the largest and most funded airports on the planet.
Not OP and not a local, just speaking from my experience there.
Tooting has loads of curry houses. And yeah, Brick Lane is a shithole for curry. If you wanted a decent one that's near there though, go to Lahore kebab house or Tayyabs.
> English breakfast
Go to a shop for tradesmen (Toolstation, HSS Hire, etc) at 7-8am. There will be a run down looking cafe / “greasy spoon” nearby that the most obese builders go to. Try there.
> lock ins
Rarer these days as you can find late licenced places easy. However in the suburbs local pubs can still be found that draw the curtains and lock the doors at 11pm without first kicking the customers out. No one minds as long as you leave quietly.
> curry
Go to Southall and find a place with a Devanagari menu. Ask the teenage waiter for recommendations. British Indian curries are excellent but the authentic ones are even better
> airports
Heathrow goes to more places and City is still slightly out of the way. Honestly just get whatever is more convenient. All of London’s airports suck and you just have to deal with it
Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
Why isn't there anywhere to throw your fricking trash away? There are literally piles of garbage in the street with signs from the council on the wall asking for ideas from the community for how to get rid of trash. How about.....motherfricking trash cans?
Why is your road signage so incredibly bad? In fact, just your signage in general. Every time I'm there it feels like navigating your way around is just rolling the dice.
>pavement etiquette
we walk on the other side here anon
>bins
They were taken away as there was a bomb problem. They weren’t put back due to a quarter century of budget cuts. They have introduced bins with a lever mechanism in busier places which can’t be abused
>signage
I agree with you on this one. If you don’t carefully plan your route it’s easy to get lost and that autistic planning takes all the fun out of it
My favourite place to get a fry up, the place I always go when I return home from abroad is Regency Cafe near Westminster/Milbank. Its been used for movies so has the look but is run by proper old school Londoners and the menu is properly English which is rare these day. There are usually queues going out into the road and the bloke who takes the orders doesnt frick about with being polite if you take too long to order he'll shout at you
You’re not a “local”, you’re an ant in a glorified county, London can barely be described as a city at this point. It’s a sloppy miss mash of assorted areas, branded under a generic term that doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Regardless, London is an utter fricking shitshow. I lived in 3 prominent central London areas, there isn’t anywhere I’d want to be on the earth less than London. Frick, even as I type this I’m getting depressed thinking about that shithole.
Frick you. Frick your grey, paki infested shit city and a word of advice to anyone thinking about going there: don’t
>where do I want to go >look at tube map and go there
Or if you can't work that out, put into Google maps where you want to go, and it will generally give you the best route. If you're talking about the actual logistics of paying, you can either buy a paper ticket from the machines in the station, walk up to the gates and tap with your debit card, or buy an Oyster card from stations that sell them and keep that topped up. Oyster card is best if you need to buy longer term tickets like monthly travelcards.
There's a big pub there built in the style of a Swiss chalet. I've no idea whether it was actually there before the area got the name though. It's a shithole anyway, and nothing like Switzerland.
There's a big pub there built in the style of a Swiss chalet. I've no idea whether it was actually there before the area got the name though. It's a shithole anyway, and nothing like Switzerland.
where is best to go to get a legit 'full english breakfast'?
do pubs still do 'lock-ins' after they close?
I know Brick Lane is supposed to be a tourist trap, so where is the best place now to get authentic cheap curry?
Which is better? London Heathrow or London City airports?
>where is best to go to get a legit 'full english breakfast'?
Lol when my friend from the Buckinghamshire visited he asked me the exact same question. I don't know because I'm not a fat builder. I took him to diner in Wood Green market and he said it wasn't authentic enough so I dunno. >do pubs still do 'lock-ins' after they close?
Dunno I'm not a pub regular. There are three kinds of pubs, overpriced wanky hipster pubs which probably don't because of 'elf an safety, Wetherspoons which definitely does not because of 'elf an safety and the few remaining long time local pubs with the same old geezers every night. They might still do that. Those pubs stink and are rundown though. >I know Brick Lane is supposed to be a tourist trap, so where is the best place now to get authentic cheap curry?
Jesus these are all basic, ass tourist questions. Again I don't know I don't eat curry but Tiffin Tin in Hornsey was decent. Not cheap though and I think it's a chain. The stuff in Brick Lane is probably horse. >Which is better? London Heathrow or London City airports?
Better as in more flights? Heathrow. London City is.just a tiny backwater airport for business jets idk never used it. Best as in quality. Never used London city but anything has to be better than Heathrow.
You’re not a “local”, you’re an ant in a glorified county, London can barely be described as a city at this point. It’s a sloppy miss mash of assorted areas, branded under a generic term that doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Regardless, London is an utter fricking shitshow. I lived in 3 prominent central London areas, there isn’t anywhere I’d want to be on the earth less than London. Frick, even as I type this I’m getting depressed thinking about that shithole.
Frick you. Frick your grey, paki infested shit city and a word of advice to anyone thinking about going there: don’t
>London can barely be described as a city at this point. It’s a sloppy miss mash of assorted areas
That has always been the case... Every district used to be it's own town or village.
Idk why people hate the asians, they keep the rent down without the violent crime in the black areas. My only issue with Asians is that they don't mix, they try to rip you off and they don't look after the area. But the memes of them going around beating up whites are bullshit in London at least.
>That has always been the case... Every district used to be it's own town or village.
Exactly, which is why you aren’t a “local” you’re an ant in a giant interconnected ant-farm. Most of London is incredibly boring, rundown, shitty and incredibly expensive.
>My only issue with Asians is that they don't mix, they try to rip you off and they don't look after the area.
Which is precisely why London has completely and utterly lost its soul. Most of the people in the city couldn’t give a frick about its history, maintaining any semblance of its culture, its full of transplants that have moved there and have one interest at heart, which is maintaining and facilitating their own culture.
Whenever I’m in London, I ask myself, where are the regular fricking people? You never, ever see a regular, authentic London middle class family sat out at a cafe or late evening bar. It’s like the entire city is either poncy students, millennial tech-workers, tourists or immigrants that only care about themselves. It’s like being in a fricking airport where everyone is just using it as a launchpad to get to their final destination.
In Madrid, Rome, Athens, Warsaw, Berlin, Stockholm, pretty much everyone you meet on a daily basis is an actual local. Whether you’re shopping, at a bar, exploring a museum, it’s all long term residents. Sure you’ve got tourists and a few immigrants, but the trunk of the city is very clearly rooted there for generations. Actual, normal locals living normal lives; not trying to be a something or present a certain kind of image. London is the opposite; it doesn’t have a normal, respectable middle class family core anymore. It feels completely and utterly lost and corporatised.
The other thing is, how filthy London is and how rundown/ugly it is. Paris is arguably dirtier, but makes up for it in charm. Berlin is maybe the only city on par for how rundown it is.
Honestly, I wish I could nuke London and everyone in it.
>Whenever I’m in London, I ask myself, where are the regular fricking people? You never, ever see a regular, authentic London middle class family sat out at a cafe or late evening bar.
By now it seems like England as a whole is like this. It's not a country, it's a big doormat.
You don't take your family out to a place at central London if you're someone who lives within the M25. You go to a local restaurant or you go to the nearest Leisure Park. Pic related. Likewise you're not getting Essex girls going to to Camden Locks to get pissed and/or laid, they're going to a terrible tacky local nightclub or they're going for a "girls weekend" in Blackpool.
To put it simply: if you're going to a tourist hotspot with minimal housing, why are you surprised you see nothing but tourists and travellers?
>if you're going to a tourist hotspot with minimal housing, why are you surprised you see nothing but tourists and travellers?
Which goes back to my point about why London is so utterly fricking soulless and shit.
In literally every other major European city, even in the most central of central tourist areas, 80% of the folks you’ll meet at the very least are actual normal middle class locals. Usually people who have been brought up there, as well as their parents and their parents likewise.
It makes the place feel hospitable, human and an authentic place to be.
London feels the opposite of that, which is one of the reasons why it feels so soulless and inhuman in my opinion.
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Most European cities are small and/or unimportant though. You can still find chavs and a Sunday market even in the middle of Birmingham but London is a globohomosexual capital, normal people are not allowed in zone 1 anymore.
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What an inane comment.
the escort scene in london is A+ tier. only beaten out by LATAM and thats just barely because of price.
And this
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Last time i went to birmingham the first thing i saw once i walked out of new streets were a sihk charity feeding disheveled tramps in some marketplace areas that was empty because it was a sunday
as someone who grew up in the suburban outskirts of london that pic is comfy and nostalgic as frick
can't go wrong with those bowling alleys that haven't upgraded their animations since 1995 lol
Have they shut them fricking American sweet shops yet or what? Politicians are the dumbest c**ts on earth to allow this blatant money laundering every fricking shop on the high street is an afghani drug dealers money laundering American lolly shop that never has a single customer in them. Hundreds of stores all identical on the same street what the frick
No it's gotten worse. I was cycling up Tottenham Court Road and the candy shops have spread even there. I am mystified as well. I don't know how the police is failing at stopping blatant crime despite increased surveillance.
A YouTuber made a video on it after the council's all declined to help and then it hit the papers for a week and completely disappeared again. These fricking money laundering shops are everywhere.
Basically they aren't even paying their rent and they just let the company name go bankrupt, register a new company house thing and open another shop it's truly fricking bizarre.
Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
Why isn't there anywhere to throw your fricking trash away? There are literally piles of garbage in the street with signs from the council on the wall asking for ideas from the community for how to get rid of trash. How about.....motherfricking trash cans?
Why is your road signage so incredibly bad? In fact, just your signage in general. Every time I'm there it feels like navigating your way around is just rolling the dice.
>Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
many people have 0 spatial awareness - you only notice the ones that annoy you or interest you in some way tho. Some are in their own world either on their phone or chatting to their partner/group.
No, so many dumb homosexuals will look you right in the eye walking towards you and not shift to make space on the sidewalk. Don't gaslight me bong
As someone who lives in another British city with irritating pedestrians. It's tourists, it's always fricking tourists. Sometimes it's just women who are so used to people being courteous to them that they don't realise that stopping in a doorway or at the top/bottom of escalators to fiddle with their handbags or get their phone out, it really fricking annoying (always make a effort to highlight how much they're getting in the way if they do it in front of me). Oddly though it's British tourists that are the problem, mostly because overseas tourists are extremely self away and paranoid.
No bins are a holdover from the IRA putting bombs in them.
Signage is generally pretty good, aside from lane markings being way too late for you to do anything about if you didn't know in advance what lane (plus the ever annoying 3 lane roundabouts where every lane is marked by a straight on arrow, despite the left lane having chevrons that make it left turn only).
>signage is pretty good
Okay try getting from your gate at Heathrow to the airport hotels and tell me how the signage is. Maybe I'm moronic but whenever I'm walking around London I simply cannot identify which street is which, the placement of the signs seems random at best.
Yeah I'm an American living here for work, been here about four months, and it's fricking insane. The bongs are pretty bad but the Asian tourists holy shit.
I miss NYC because even though it's a shithole it's the only place I can plow through on the sidewalk, people either move around you or get run over
As someone who lives in another British city with irritating pedestrians. It's tourists, it's always fricking tourists. Sometimes it's just women who are so used to people being courteous to them that they don't realise that stopping in a doorway or at the top/bottom of escalators to fiddle with their handbags or get their phone out, it really fricking annoying (always make a effort to highlight how much they're getting in the way if they do it in front of me). Oddly though it's British tourists that are the problem, mostly because overseas tourists are extremely self away and paranoid.
No bins are a holdover from the IRA putting bombs in them.
Signage is generally pretty good, aside from lane markings being way too late for you to do anything about if you didn't know in advance what lane (plus the ever annoying 3 lane roundabouts where every lane is marked by a straight on arrow, despite the left lane having chevrons that make it left turn only).
> Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
They're called pavements and it's because everyone here is an arsehole. >Why isn't there anywhere to throw your fricking trash away? How about.....motherfricking trash cans?
They're called rubbish bins and they were removed because the IRA kept putting bombs in them. >Why is your road signage so incredibly bad? In fact, just your signage in general. Every time I'm there it feels like navigating your way around is just rolling the dice.
I thought I was the only one who noticed this. I think it's because 1) there's no single standard, it's just a mish-mash of different sign types, some good, some bad 2) there seems to be an aversion to putting signs on poles so a sign gets put on a building even if it's in a totally awkward location. 3)The main routes are numbered and the signage for it is very good so most motorists just use that instead of the road name.
do you ever look around and find it funny that there are like 5+ parallel societies at once in certain neighborhoods
in a gentrifying neighborhood there are hipster whites, crackhead whites, blacks, muslims, other asians.
Yeah any random Victorian terrace could be a 3 bed with some rich white couple, a council house with blacks or broken up into rooms and rented to 10 Asians.
https://i.imgur.com/oVH9VLH.jpg
The signs for streets are literally on every corner in London anon
He is right, the signage is bad. I mean even your example proves his point. it's just a small sign perched way up there and half of it is irrelevant information such as the postcode and council. In USA it would be right over the road or pavement on a pole and would have the road name and nothing else on it. Also some of the signs are literally from the 1940s and have not been changed. Ironically I think these famous ones are actually from the 1960s. He has a point.
do you ever look around and find it funny that there are like 5+ parallel societies at once in certain neighborhoods
in a gentrifying neighborhood there are hipster whites, crackhead whites, blacks, muslims, other asians.
>be me >looking for rooms in London >find a lot of inns (pubs with attached rooms, basically) >the in-house pub of most of these inns serve Thai food
Why? Indian food I could understand, British food I would prefer, but why do so many inns serve Thai food?
Just to make things even more confusing, a lot of Fish & Chip places are run by Chinese couples.
It's just one of these weird trends, like banks being turned into Wine Bars 10-15 years ago. I think it's just a case of thai restaurant owners tending to want to open in a nice building and they have cheap rent. If you have your family as staff, you can get your costs lower than you would if someone tried to make it a gastropub and needed to hire 5-6 people.
Which pubs/bars/music venues do I go to if I wanna chat up art hoes/art school students in their early 20s?
Preferably South London but places in East/North are cool too
I touch grass a lot but everyone I meet is 25+
Didn't you make a thread about this? There was a bar called Roxxy in Fitzrovia in 2010 where Birkbeck students went. Was the only time I ever got laid. Other than that trip pubs and bars round New Cross, that's where Goldsmiths is.
waste of time, most of the girls on there aren't my type and it gets addicting really quicky
I'd rather save time and just go out 1-3 times a week to places I know that girls I'm into will be there, and spend the rest of my time being productive
*spoiler*also I'm not handsome enough for tinder*spoiler*
one thing i dont like is the richest nicest neighborhoods rows of historical townhouses all empty except maybe the odd oil money or diamond mine family
Im going to solo travel to London for a few days in June. It's my fist time travelling solo so I don't really know what to expect, some recommendations on stuff to do would be great. The main reason for the trip is to visit the British Museum and going to Les Miserables.
All the main museums are great Natural History, Science, Imperial War, London Transport.
Camden for small venues, street food, comedy clubs.
Sky Garden for views of London (it's free, unlike The Shard)
Covent Garden for a nice area with shopping, places to eat, usually some form of (licenced) street entertainment
Hampton Court Palace if you've interest in Tudor/Henry VIII
Tower of London (expect to queue)
All the landmarks, Elizabeth Tower, houses of parliament, Trafalgar Square, Leicester Square, Piccadilly Circus, St Pauls, Westminster Abbey, Tower Bridge
Thorpe Park (white knuckle), Chessington (family) , Legoland Windsor for theme park options
Harrods and Fortnum & Masons for luxury shopping, especially if you want British teas/foodstuffs to take home
>visit the British Museum
victoria and albert museum is great - it is focused on design, but has artifacts, sculptures, paitings from different eras of europe and different cultures around the world just like most of these museums do. but its true the britiish musem does have the most famosu stuff(+biggest stuff)
all the major museums in june will be busy, but going this spring - V&A museum, near the end of the day i could just walk straight in, it is next door to the natural history museum that had a queueueueue to get in - just like the british museum can get. not that that is a problem, they go pretty promptly
>visit the British Museum
victoria and albert museum is great - it is focused on design, but has artifacts, sculptures, paitings from different eras of europe and different cultures around the world just like most of these museums do. but its true the britiish musem does have the most famosu stuff(+biggest stuff)
all the major museums in june will be busy, but going this spring - V&A museum, near the end of the day i could just walk straight in, it is next door to the natural history museum that had a queueueueue to get in - just like the british museum can get. not that that is a problem, they go pretty promptly
town like Norwich very comfy imo
has medieval houses just dispersed everywhere, large grand cathedral skyline (and other nonfamous ones)
minimal tourists
minimal blacks
minimal browns
some chinese
some "vote green" homosexual types
it has some of the dumpy "highstreet" that is part of the quintessential british experience but also has a comfy river walk and posh village setting just outside the cathedral which is also quintessential british experience.
less touristy than oxford cambridge and bath
less dumpy than canterbury
london has all the museums and all the everything. doesn't suit my personality - difficult to relax. though i like someone showing me around their neighborhood
maybe im just paranoid, in london i always feel if i use my phone for too long someone will snatch it - but that cant be true i see people from all walks of life and every type of neighborhood walking around with their face in their phone.
haven't really felt like that in most other cities ive been in europe and uk
>i see people from all walks of life and every type of neighborhood walking around with their face in their phone.
Yes they will get their phone snatched eventually.
how do you pronounce worcester?
Wuss-ter
Bruv why would you want to live in London? On top of that if you want to leave London, especially getting on the A5 from East London near White chapel, those idiots can't drive lol. On top of that last time I was in London I almost got stabbed over a bag of of chocolate bark that I got from Laderach in front of Zara.
I'm stuck here, have a council flat here
The A5 is not in East London.
town like Norwich very comfy imo
has medieval houses just dispersed everywhere, large grand cathedral skyline (and other nonfamous ones)
minimal tourists
minimal blacks
minimal browns
some chinese
some "vote green" homosexual types
it has some of the dumpy "highstreet" that is part of the quintessential british experience but also has a comfy river walk and posh village setting just outside the cathedral which is also quintessential british experience.
less touristy than oxford cambridge and bath
less dumpy than canterbury
london has all the museums and all the everything. doesn't suit my personality - difficult to relax. though i like someone showing me around their neighborhood
I agree that small towns can be nicer but I am too used to big cities and get bored quickly. If I ever left London I'd try Manchester or something.
Bruv why would you want to live in London? On top of that if you want to leave London, especially getting on the A5 from East London near White chapel, those idiots can't drive lol. On top of that last time I was in London I almost got stabbed over a bag of of chocolate bark that I got from Laderach in front of Zara.
Getting laid is easy outside of London, small town girls generally have lower standards, not sure if that's limited to the UK however northern girls do have a reputation for being loose. The few times a girl showed any interest in me they were from up north. Getting laid in London is probably almost as hard as getting laid in NYC or LA, you're competing with BBC and guys on six figures.
Didn't have any questions. Just wanted to say that London is very comfy but the tube is moronic.
Why you'd put seats on either side rather than use the superior Australian method of train seating layout is beyond me.
It's called transverse vs longitudinal seating. Longitudinal is better for high density traffic frequent stops because it affords the most standing room.The longer distance mainline trains in London all have transverse seating like in your picture.
Because you can cram in far more people. Have you seen the Victoria line at rush hour?
Ironically the Victoria line used to have some transverse seating on the old 1967 stock. The Bakerloo line still does. So it is workable on rapid transit. Modern designers just like making trains soulless cattle trucks I guess.
Yes. There's webcam set up pointed at it, where if you check it at any point during the day, you can almost guarantee there will be someone trying to get their photo taken on the crossing.
How do they afford to live there? Escorting is way too unreliable to pay £3k regular rent
Only cities worth seeing in the UK are Liverpool and Edinburgh. The rest are soulless. London is full of pakis and Muslims. Hardly any white people. Liverpool is 99% white and Edinburgh has a few tourists but it's fine. And before someone says >Liverpool is known for thieves and crime!!!!
Yeah, in the 1970s. Now it's fairly safe, as long as you don't get involved with drug gangs. Then you will get shot
>Liverpool
Are you fricking serious?
London is fun to live in in your twenties
There, I said it
Maybe this was true in 2003
https://i.imgur.com/vK1SI8y.jpg
Is Abbey Road actually infested with tourists?
Every time I've cycled down that road I've never seen tourists. There is a conspicuous amount of fan graffiti around however.
what do you think about poles?
Drink a lot, hard workers
I’m spending a night in Astor park Friday solo, where should I go to get shitty?
>How do they afford to live there? Escorting is way too unreliable to pay £3k regular rent
You think they live completely on their own lol? Usually you’ll have 3-4 girls working at any one house. They charge way more too, think £120+ minimum. They easily make lots of money. You’d be shocked how many clients they get, I’d guess at minimum 5 a day.
>Another /misc/tard who is obsessed about skin color and demographics to determine if somewhere is good or not
It makes a huge difference. Cities and areas with high populations of Pakistanis feel considerably different to the cities that don’t. There’s a huge, fairly unpleasant effect they have on the society around them.
I’m not him but I hate London because of how removed the people living there are from any semblance of any kind of core culture or behaviour.
Pakistanis literally all just live in East London. I'm from Southeast London and my immiediate area is mostly white and beyond is mostly white and black, there are no pakistanis except those that run the local corner shops
I used to live in Eltham and whilst I don't condone the shitbags that killed Stephen Lawrence, it did really help the area because much more desirable because undesirables moved to Peckham and other shitholes.
If someone had the balls, they'd use it as a case study and share the conclusion.
Not saying the area is by any means perfect, but that's more to do with lack of education and bad parenting.
Only cities worth seeing in the UK are Liverpool and Edinburgh. The rest are soulless. London is full of pakis and Muslims. Hardly any white people. Liverpool is 99% white and Edinburgh has a few tourists but it's fine. And before someone says >Liverpool is known for thieves and crime!!!!
Yeah, in the 1970s. Now it's fairly safe, as long as you don't get involved with drug gangs. Then you will get shot
Scousers are not unemployed drug addicts. The non whites that live in London all contribute far more to this countries tax revenue than any scouser who are just worthless leaches
>early 20s zoomer >go touch grass in london >90% of people at events are 27+ >this is for 'cool' 'young people' stuff too, not generic meetup.com normie stuff
is this a london thing or are all big cities around the world like this? i was gonna try and move somewhere with more zoomers but if this is everywhere i'll just stay here
i tried to talk to some very nice zoomer ladies outside this pub the other day but i was very sweaty due to coming out from a punk gig on the other side of the road and didn't want to miss the last band so yeah we didn't get with them this time
was gonna make my own thread but theres like 3+ london threads right now so might wait a bit idk
It’s a city of pathetic millennial tech/finance workers, ethnic zoomers that have their own spaces and live in their own bubbles, out-of-towners and the uber rich, which again have their own spaces and places inaccessible to you.
London doesn’t have a normal, common core population that holds it together. My girlfriend lives in the centre of a major European city, in a very nice, beautiful area, and her family just work standard jobs, she works at a restaurant, and they all get by just fine. The same can’t be said about anywhere in London, where shitty, scummy houses which cost £35k 30 years ago now cost close to a million.
>i was gonna try and move somewhere with more zoomers >punk gig
That's your problem. Zoomers think guitars are too edgy and the non-repetitive lyrics and occasional missed chord from a punk band bothers the generation that is used to pitch perfect AI produced electronic music.
You're supposed to go to a Porter Robinson show, download Grindr, and suck a troony's gock in the toilets. That's the zoomer thing to do.
But seriously London is all about /fin/ which zoomers don't like to begin with plus its incredibly expensive and too gatekeepy for a generation that is at the beginning of their careers and their parent's probably don't live in London anymore so they can't either.
My suggestion is college towns or cities that are techy but relatively affordable. IDK what that looks like in the UK but in the US its places like Denver and Portland.
Or just figure out how to hang with people who are a couple years older than you. The zoomers I know that aren't completely insufferable are the ones who are well rounded enough to engage people in their 20s and 30s and have things in common.
>How do they afford to live there? Escorting is way too unreliable to pay £3k regular rent
You think they live completely on their own lol? Usually you’ll have 3-4 girls working at any one house. They charge way more too, think £120+ minimum. They easily make lots of money. You’d be shocked how many clients they get, I’d guess at minimum 5 a day.
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It makes a huge difference. Cities and areas with high populations of Pakistanis feel considerably different to the cities that don’t. There’s a huge, fairly unpleasant effect they have on the society around them.
I’m not him but I hate London because of how removed the people living there are from any semblance of any kind of core culture or behaviour.
>You think they live completely on their own lol? Usually you’ll have 3-4 girls working at any one house
Some kind of foreign people smuggling has always been my leading theory however I went as far as visiting one to ask some questions and she claimed to be independent. She did say she used to work in a shared house though but left because they were b***hes. >It makes a huge difference. Cities and areas with high populations of Pakistanis feel considerably different to the cities that don’t. There’s a huge, fairly unpleasant effect they have on the society around them.
I don't see why a Pakistani town is any worse than a white chav town. They both ruin the area. What is wrong with a ruined area anyway? They are probably the only thing keeping London house prices down these days.
>. What is wrong with a ruined area anyway?
doesn't it cause the non-ruined areas to become more expensive if some places nearby turn to shit, and the shit area will just have a negative feedbackloop stores close because there aren't paying customers, junkies move in because there are vacant stores to camp infront of, more stores close down because people want to avoid the junkies
In many cases, these were often genuinely nice, working-middle class neighbourhoods which have been effectively colonised by Pakistanis who started moving in en masse. Local pubs start to close. The feel of the area begins to change. More people move out because it no longer fits their needs (white flight) Mosques are built. Chain stores begin to close. 20 years later the local school is taken over by some Islamic educational group, a completely fractured sense of community and rife Islamo nepotism. Half the people genuinely don’t speak English, simply being white will get you looked at sideways.
>simply being white will get you looked at sideways.
i stayed in hackney (had a free place to stay), and it felt this this was happening - i just assumed they were assessing if could rob me
Look in the tray with the biscuits and tea next to the kettle.
What are the best places to get laid in the UK, since clearly it's not London?
N E W C A ST L E
Also Nottingham or Leicester. Hang around the ex-polys at term time.
Yeah I'm an American living here for work, been here about four months, and it's fricking insane. The bongs are pretty bad but the Asian tourists holy shit.
I miss NYC because even though it's a shithole it's the only place I can plow through on the sidewalk, people either move around you or get run over
NYC is still shit? I thought Giluani or whatever his name was cleaned it up and even Harlem got gentrified?
>What is wrong with a ruined area anyway?
In many cases, these were often genuinely nice, working-middle class neighbourhoods which have been effectively colonised by Pakistanis who started moving in en masse. Local pubs start to close. The feel of the area begins to change. More people move out because it no longer fits their needs (white flight) Mosques are built. Chain stores begin to close. 20 years later the local school is taken over by some Islamic educational group, a completely fractured sense of community and rife Islamo nepotism. Half the people genuinely don’t speak English, simply being white will get you looked at sideways.
I agree they take over an area and don't mix.
>simply being white will get you looked at sideways.
i stayed in hackney (had a free place to stay), and it felt this this was happening - i just assumed they were assessing if could rob me
Was a student here 2009-2011, was kinda meh, sure as a clueless, penniless youth you can't appreciate the high tier stuff, but still very eh compared to the places I've visited traveling abroad. At least the museums didn't have airport style security back then like nowadays though.
It's a weird place. Should be a shithole but the houses there are so phenomenally expensive that they're kept looking nice and on most days it's one of the least threatening parts of central London that have lots of housing. It's one of those things where I'd like living there, but for £1m starting price for a terraced house, I'd rather live a lot of other places.
It's also got big football stadiums on either side so you get matchday crowds and drunks.
Places like Fulham, as you described, is why I absolutely despise London.
There are expensive places all over the world, but generally speaking, you get what you pay for. In most cities around the world, any neighbourhood or borough that has a 1m+ starting price is a prime, plush place to live, where you can experience a beautiful quality of life which ample benefits to living there.
In London, 1m gets you a fairly unassuming, relatively small house, in a grey, drab, boring suburb with nothing unique or of note happening, with the same boring old pubs you find in any other part of the country. I genuinely don’t understand the benefits to living there.
The fact you're 10 minutes on the tube from anything is the appeal.
The big issue is that so many of these places used to be shitholes 30-40 years ago. They got gentrified but strict planning permission meant loads of house are still 1950s "we need to build as many houses as quickly as possible" shit whilst the brownfield sites that did get demolished became expensive apartment blocks.
My dad used to live in Battersea and used to walk to see Chelsea. He was poor as hell. Now you'd need to be at least a paper millionaire to live there.
There is some comfy housing in London though, in the areas that have been upmarket for 100's of years. I do like Georgian townhouses.
>The fact you're 10 minutes on the tube from anything is the appeal.
I get that, but for the same money, you could literally live in a beautiful area, in an opulent apartment, close or in the centre of a lively, exciting city.
When I bring this up you often hear "but London has better opportunities!!" which then makes me wonder, if you have the skills/money already to live there in London, you can utilise those basically anywhere and not pay London's outrageous prices and also have a better quality of life.
In regards tot he areas that have been upmarket for 100s of years, A) They cost a fricking bomb and B) they still manage to have a lot of fricking problems despite the money. I lived in South Kensington for a while, just by the tube station. I'd constantly be accosted by homeless freaks and see balacava'd yutes spinning around on their e-scooters.
where is best to go to get a legit 'full english breakfast'?
do pubs still do 'lock-ins' after they close?
I know Brick Lane is supposed to be a tourist trap, so where is the best place now to get authentic cheap curry?
Which is better? London Heathrow or London City airports?
Anywhere that isn't dirt cheap. It's a fairly basic meal, so you just want to be sure they're quality ingredients and not sausages made out of brains and arseholes.
Lock-ins are generally for people who knows the owners, a friend of a friend maybe. You won't find one as a tourist as they're not really legal. London has tons of clubs that are open to 8am and are better than a lot of raves I've been too, you won't struggle to find nightlife.
Dunno, I don't trust their hygiene practices.
Heathrow is one of the largest and most funded airports on the planet.
Not OP and not a local, just speaking from my experience there.
>so where is the best place now to get authentic cheap curry?
Maybe somewhere in South London or West. Maybe not even in London
There aren't many Asians in South London.
Tooting has loads of curry houses. And yeah, Brick Lane is a shithole for curry. If you wanted a decent one that's near there though, go to Lahore kebab house or Tayyabs.
Finally, an actual Londoner
Why yes, all of South London is Tooting.
shut the frick up
> English breakfast
Go to a shop for tradesmen (Toolstation, HSS Hire, etc) at 7-8am. There will be a run down looking cafe / “greasy spoon” nearby that the most obese builders go to. Try there.
> lock ins
Rarer these days as you can find late licenced places easy. However in the suburbs local pubs can still be found that draw the curtains and lock the doors at 11pm without first kicking the customers out. No one minds as long as you leave quietly.
> curry
Go to Southall and find a place with a Devanagari menu. Ask the teenage waiter for recommendations. British Indian curries are excellent but the authentic ones are even better
> airports
Heathrow goes to more places and City is still slightly out of the way. Honestly just get whatever is more convenient. All of London’s airports suck and you just have to deal with it
>pavement etiquette
we walk on the other side here anon
>bins
They were taken away as there was a bomb problem. They weren’t put back due to a quarter century of budget cuts. They have introduced bins with a lever mechanism in busier places which can’t be abused
>signage
I agree with you on this one. If you don’t carefully plan your route it’s easy to get lost and that autistic planning takes all the fun out of it
>where is best to go to get a legit 'full english breakfast'?
Terry's... Unironically.
My favourite place to get a fry up, the place I always go when I return home from abroad is Regency Cafe near Westminster/Milbank. Its been used for movies so has the look but is run by proper old school Londoners and the menu is properly English which is rare these day. There are usually queues going out into the road and the bloke who takes the orders doesnt frick about with being polite if you take too long to order he'll shout at you
>do pubs still do 'lock-ins' after they close?
pubs can open 24/7 if they apply to so there is no need anymore
>where is best to go to get a legit 'full english breakfast'?
dumpster diving
You’re not a “local”, you’re an ant in a glorified county, London can barely be described as a city at this point. It’s a sloppy miss mash of assorted areas, branded under a generic term that doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Regardless, London is an utter fricking shitshow. I lived in 3 prominent central London areas, there isn’t anywhere I’d want to be on the earth less than London. Frick, even as I type this I’m getting depressed thinking about that shithole.
Frick you. Frick your grey, paki infested shit city and a word of advice to anyone thinking about going there: don’t
How do you unironically use the Underground?
>t. Rural Britbong.
Umm… Based?
I don't use the tube much anymore since I got an e-bike. I'm scared of the train getting stuck in the tunnel.
>How do you unironically use the Underground?
>where do I want to go
>look at tube map and go there
Or if you can't work that out, put into Google maps where you want to go, and it will generally give you the best route. If you're talking about the actual logistics of paying, you can either buy a paper ticket from the machines in the station, walk up to the gates and tap with your debit card, or buy an Oyster card from stations that sell them and keep that topped up. Oyster card is best if you need to buy longer term tickets like monthly travelcards.
Why does the subway have a station called Swiss Cottage?
There's a big pub there built in the style of a Swiss chalet. I've no idea whether it was actually there before the area got the name though. It's a shithole anyway, and nothing like Switzerland.
This
>where is best to go to get a legit 'full english breakfast'?
Lol when my friend from the Buckinghamshire visited he asked me the exact same question. I don't know because I'm not a fat builder. I took him to diner in Wood Green market and he said it wasn't authentic enough so I dunno.
>do pubs still do 'lock-ins' after they close?
Dunno I'm not a pub regular. There are three kinds of pubs, overpriced wanky hipster pubs which probably don't because of 'elf an safety, Wetherspoons which definitely does not because of 'elf an safety and the few remaining long time local pubs with the same old geezers every night. They might still do that. Those pubs stink and are rundown though.
>I know Brick Lane is supposed to be a tourist trap, so where is the best place now to get authentic cheap curry?
Jesus these are all basic, ass tourist questions. Again I don't know I don't eat curry but Tiffin Tin in Hornsey was decent. Not cheap though and I think it's a chain. The stuff in Brick Lane is probably horse.
>Which is better? London Heathrow or London City airports?
Better as in more flights? Heathrow. London City is.just a tiny backwater airport for business jets idk never used it. Best as in quality. Never used London city but anything has to be better than Heathrow.
>London can barely be described as a city at this point. It’s a sloppy miss mash of assorted areas
That has always been the case... Every district used to be it's own town or village.
Idk why people hate the asians, they keep the rent down without the violent crime in the black areas. My only issue with Asians is that they don't mix, they try to rip you off and they don't look after the area. But the memes of them going around beating up whites are bullshit in London at least.
>That has always been the case... Every district used to be it's own town or village.
Exactly, which is why you aren’t a “local” you’re an ant in a giant interconnected ant-farm. Most of London is incredibly boring, rundown, shitty and incredibly expensive.
>My only issue with Asians is that they don't mix, they try to rip you off and they don't look after the area.
Which is precisely why London has completely and utterly lost its soul. Most of the people in the city couldn’t give a frick about its history, maintaining any semblance of its culture, its full of transplants that have moved there and have one interest at heart, which is maintaining and facilitating their own culture.
Whenever I’m in London, I ask myself, where are the regular fricking people? You never, ever see a regular, authentic London middle class family sat out at a cafe or late evening bar. It’s like the entire city is either poncy students, millennial tech-workers, tourists or immigrants that only care about themselves. It’s like being in a fricking airport where everyone is just using it as a launchpad to get to their final destination.
In Madrid, Rome, Athens, Warsaw, Berlin, Stockholm, pretty much everyone you meet on a daily basis is an actual local. Whether you’re shopping, at a bar, exploring a museum, it’s all long term residents. Sure you’ve got tourists and a few immigrants, but the trunk of the city is very clearly rooted there for generations. Actual, normal locals living normal lives; not trying to be a something or present a certain kind of image. London is the opposite; it doesn’t have a normal, respectable middle class family core anymore. It feels completely and utterly lost and corporatised.
The other thing is, how filthy London is and how rundown/ugly it is. Paris is arguably dirtier, but makes up for it in charm. Berlin is maybe the only city on par for how rundown it is.
Honestly, I wish I could nuke London and everyone in it.
OP here, I agree with all of this. Tbh I want to move to Birmingham, it reminds me of what London was like in thee 90s/00s.
>Whenever I’m in London, I ask myself, where are the regular fricking people? You never, ever see a regular, authentic London middle class family sat out at a cafe or late evening bar.
By now it seems like England as a whole is like this. It's not a country, it's a big doormat.
You don't take your family out to a place at central London if you're someone who lives within the M25. You go to a local restaurant or you go to the nearest Leisure Park. Pic related. Likewise you're not getting Essex girls going to to Camden Locks to get pissed and/or laid, they're going to a terrible tacky local nightclub or they're going for a "girls weekend" in Blackpool.
To put it simply: if you're going to a tourist hotspot with minimal housing, why are you surprised you see nothing but tourists and travellers?
>if you're going to a tourist hotspot with minimal housing, why are you surprised you see nothing but tourists and travellers?
Which goes back to my point about why London is so utterly fricking soulless and shit.
In literally every other major European city, even in the most central of central tourist areas, 80% of the folks you’ll meet at the very least are actual normal middle class locals. Usually people who have been brought up there, as well as their parents and their parents likewise.
It makes the place feel hospitable, human and an authentic place to be.
London feels the opposite of that, which is one of the reasons why it feels so soulless and inhuman in my opinion.
Most European cities are small and/or unimportant though. You can still find chavs and a Sunday market even in the middle of Birmingham but London is a globohomosexual capital, normal people are not allowed in zone 1 anymore.
What an inane comment.
And this
Last time i went to birmingham the first thing i saw once i walked out of new streets were a sihk charity feeding disheveled tramps in some marketplace areas that was empty because it was a sunday
as someone who grew up in the suburban outskirts of london that pic is comfy and nostalgic as frick
can't go wrong with those bowling alleys that haven't upgraded their animations since 1995 lol
Have they shut them fricking American sweet shops yet or what? Politicians are the dumbest c**ts on earth to allow this blatant money laundering every fricking shop on the high street is an afghani drug dealers money laundering American lolly shop that never has a single customer in them. Hundreds of stores all identical on the same street what the frick
No it's gotten worse. I was cycling up Tottenham Court Road and the candy shops have spread even there. I am mystified as well. I don't know how the police is failing at stopping blatant crime despite increased surveillance.
A YouTuber made a video on it after the council's all declined to help and then it hit the papers for a week and completely disappeared again. These fricking money laundering shops are everywhere.
Basically they aren't even paying their rent and they just let the company name go bankrupt, register a new company house thing and open another shop it's truly fricking bizarre.
Also a local here, AMA
Though I'm not on SighSee that much
Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
Why isn't there anywhere to throw your fricking trash away? There are literally piles of garbage in the street with signs from the council on the wall asking for ideas from the community for how to get rid of trash. How about.....motherfricking trash cans?
Why is your road signage so incredibly bad? In fact, just your signage in general. Every time I'm there it feels like navigating your way around is just rolling the dice.
>Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
many people have 0 spatial awareness - you only notice the ones that annoy you or interest you in some way tho. Some are in their own world either on their phone or chatting to their partner/group.
No, so many dumb homosexuals will look you right in the eye walking towards you and not shift to make space on the sidewalk. Don't gaslight me bong
>signage is pretty good
Okay try getting from your gate at Heathrow to the airport hotels and tell me how the signage is. Maybe I'm moronic but whenever I'm walking around London I simply cannot identify which street is which, the placement of the signs seems random at best.
did you get mogged by dumb homosexuals making you move out of the way?
The signs for streets are literally on every corner in London anon
Yeah I'm an American living here for work, been here about four months, and it's fricking insane. The bongs are pretty bad but the Asian tourists holy shit.
I miss NYC because even though it's a shithole it's the only place I can plow through on the sidewalk, people either move around you or get run over
Also yeah the signage is fine on roads but when walking holy shit trying to find a street sign and it's hidden on the wall of a random building
As someone who lives in another British city with irritating pedestrians. It's tourists, it's always fricking tourists. Sometimes it's just women who are so used to people being courteous to them that they don't realise that stopping in a doorway or at the top/bottom of escalators to fiddle with their handbags or get their phone out, it really fricking annoying (always make a effort to highlight how much they're getting in the way if they do it in front of me). Oddly though it's British tourists that are the problem, mostly because overseas tourists are extremely self away and paranoid.
No bins are a holdover from the IRA putting bombs in them.
Signage is generally pretty good, aside from lane markings being way too late for you to do anything about if you didn't know in advance what lane (plus the ever annoying 3 lane roundabouts where every lane is marked by a straight on arrow, despite the left lane having chevrons that make it left turn only).
> Why can't anyone get the frick out of my way on the sidewalks in London?
They're called pavements and it's because everyone here is an arsehole.
>Why isn't there anywhere to throw your fricking trash away? How about.....motherfricking trash cans?
They're called rubbish bins and they were removed because the IRA kept putting bombs in them.
>Why is your road signage so incredibly bad? In fact, just your signage in general. Every time I'm there it feels like navigating your way around is just rolling the dice.
I thought I was the only one who noticed this. I think it's because 1) there's no single standard, it's just a mish-mash of different sign types, some good, some bad 2) there seems to be an aversion to putting signs on poles so a sign gets put on a building even if it's in a totally awkward location. 3)The main routes are numbered and the signage for it is very good so most motorists just use that instead of the road name.
Yeah any random Victorian terrace could be a 3 bed with some rich white couple, a council house with blacks or broken up into rooms and rented to 10 Asians.
He is right, the signage is bad. I mean even your example proves his point. it's just a small sign perched way up there and half of it is irrelevant information such as the postcode and council. In USA it would be right over the road or pavement on a pole and would have the road name and nothing else on it. Also some of the signs are literally from the 1940s and have not been changed. Ironically I think these famous ones are actually from the 1960s. He has a point.
do you ever look around and find it funny that there are like 5+ parallel societies at once in certain neighborhoods
in a gentrifying neighborhood there are hipster whites, crackhead whites, blacks, muslims, other asians.
>be me
>looking for rooms in London
>find a lot of inns (pubs with attached rooms, basically)
>the in-house pub of most of these inns serve Thai food
Why? Indian food I could understand, British food I would prefer, but why do so many inns serve Thai food?
Theres a trend with London pubs serving thai food for some reason. It doesn't make sense but just go along with it
The Thai government subsidises it.
Just to make things even more confusing, a lot of Fish & Chip places are run by Chinese couples.
It's just one of these weird trends, like banks being turned into Wine Bars 10-15 years ago. I think it's just a case of thai restaurant owners tending to want to open in a nice building and they have cheap rent. If you have your family as staff, you can get your costs lower than you would if someone tried to make it a gastropub and needed to hire 5-6 people.
All mine are run by Turks.
Which pubs/bars/music venues do I go to if I wanna chat up art hoes/art school students in their early 20s?
Preferably South London but places in East/North are cool too
I touch grass a lot but everyone I meet is 25+
Didn't you make a thread about this? There was a bar called Roxxy in Fitzrovia in 2010 where Birkbeck students went. Was the only time I ever got laid. Other than that trip pubs and bars round New Cross, that's where Goldsmiths is.
don't think so but I talk about it a lot because I have nothing better to do apparently
And yeah fair enough I'll do that I guess
Why don't you just install Tinder?
waste of time, most of the girls on there aren't my type and it gets addicting really quicky
I'd rather save time and just go out 1-3 times a week to places I know that girls I'm into will be there, and spend the rest of my time being productive
*spoiler*also I'm not handsome enough for tinder*spoiler*
>ctrl f cooming
>0 results
the escort scene in london is A+ tier. only beaten out by LATAM and thats just barely because of price.
What's so good about it? It's all mediocre Eastern European prostitutes charging £100 an hour.
one thing i dont like is the richest nicest neighborhoods rows of historical townhouses all empty except maybe the odd oil money or diamond mine family
Im going to solo travel to London for a few days in June. It's my fist time travelling solo so I don't really know what to expect, some recommendations on stuff to do would be great. The main reason for the trip is to visit the British Museum and going to Les Miserables.
All the main museums are great Natural History, Science, Imperial War, London Transport.
Camden for small venues, street food, comedy clubs.
Sky Garden for views of London (it's free, unlike The Shard)
Covent Garden for a nice area with shopping, places to eat, usually some form of (licenced) street entertainment
Hampton Court Palace if you've interest in Tudor/Henry VIII
Tower of London (expect to queue)
All the landmarks, Elizabeth Tower, houses of parliament, Trafalgar Square, Leicester Square, Piccadilly Circus, St Pauls, Westminster Abbey, Tower Bridge
Thorpe Park (white knuckle), Chessington (family) , Legoland Windsor for theme park options
Harrods and Fortnum & Masons for luxury shopping, especially if you want British teas/foodstuffs to take home
Thanks lads
>visit the British Museum
victoria and albert museum is great - it is focused on design, but has artifacts, sculptures, paitings from different eras of europe and different cultures around the world just like most of these museums do. but its true the britiish musem does have the most famosu stuff(+biggest stuff)
all the major museums in june will be busy, but going this spring - V&A museum, near the end of the day i could just walk straight in, it is next door to the natural history museum that had a queueueueue to get in - just like the british museum can get. not that that is a problem, they go pretty promptly
town like Norwich very comfy imo
has medieval houses just dispersed everywhere, large grand cathedral skyline (and other nonfamous ones)
minimal tourists
minimal blacks
minimal browns
some chinese
some "vote green" homosexual types
it has some of the dumpy "highstreet" that is part of the quintessential british experience but also has a comfy river walk and posh village setting just outside the cathedral which is also quintessential british experience.
less touristy than oxford cambridge and bath
less dumpy than canterbury
london has all the museums and all the everything. doesn't suit my personality - difficult to relax. though i like someone showing me around their neighborhood
maybe im just paranoid, in london i always feel if i use my phone for too long someone will snatch it - but that cant be true i see people from all walks of life and every type of neighborhood walking around with their face in their phone.
haven't really felt like that in most other cities ive been in europe and uk
>i see people from all walks of life and every type of neighborhood walking around with their face in their phone.
Yes they will get their phone snatched eventually.
Wuss-ter
I'm stuck here, have a council flat here
The A5 is not in East London.
I agree that small towns can be nicer but I am too used to big cities and get bored quickly. If I ever left London I'd try Manchester or something.
I believe in Jesus.
how do you pronounce worcester?
war chest 'er
wuss-terrr
nice, ty
Also some people also don't pronounce the "shire" part of Worcestershire.
I'm not sure if he's trolling or just a moron, but "war-chest-er" is wrong. It's "wuh-stuh-shuh"
t. lived here most of my life
Bruv why would you want to live in London? On top of that if you want to leave London, especially getting on the A5 from East London near White chapel, those idiots can't drive lol. On top of that last time I was in London I almost got stabbed over a bag of of chocolate bark that I got from Laderach in front of Zara.
>Local
what did you eat for Eid feast?
I’m a decent looking yank, is it true that Brit girls are huge bawds and will jump my bones just because of my accent?
Getting laid is easy outside of London, small town girls generally have lower standards, not sure if that's limited to the UK however northern girls do have a reputation for being loose. The few times a girl showed any interest in me they were from up north. Getting laid in London is probably almost as hard as getting laid in NYC or LA, you're competing with BBC and guys on six figures.
>as hard as getting laid in NYC or LA
nyc is supposed to be one of the easier places to get laid (if you live there)
DC is the easiest place in the US to get laid.
Didn't have any questions. Just wanted to say that London is very comfy but the tube is moronic.
Why you'd put seats on either side rather than use the superior Australian method of train seating layout is beyond me.
Because you can cram in far more people. Have you seen the Victoria line at rush hour?
It's called transverse vs longitudinal seating. Longitudinal is better for high density traffic frequent stops because it affords the most standing room.The longer distance mainline trains in London all have transverse seating like in your picture.
Ironically the Victoria line used to have some transverse seating on the old 1967 stock. The Bakerloo line still does. So it is workable on rapid transit. Modern designers just like making trains soulless cattle trucks I guess.
are you black?
Is Abbey Road actually infested with tourists?
Yes. There's webcam set up pointed at it, where if you check it at any point during the day, you can almost guarantee there will be someone trying to get their photo taken on the crossing.
Lol just looked it up and first thing is a guy taking a photo and holding up the traffic.
Lots of prostitutes live nearby on that road
How do they afford to live there? Escorting is way too unreliable to pay £3k regular rent
>Liverpool
Are you fricking serious?
Maybe this was true in 2003
Every time I've cycled down that road I've never seen tourists. There is a conspicuous amount of fan graffiti around however.
Drink a lot, hard workers
Where?
Lol just put on the webcam, within 20 seconds someone strode out to do the walk whilst another person took pics.
A Golf had stopped at the crossing when they started walking over but when he saw they were tourists he drove forward and forced them out of the way,
>How do they afford to live there? Escorting is way too unreliable to pay £3k regular rent
You think they live completely on their own lol? Usually you’ll have 3-4 girls working at any one house. They charge way more too, think £120+ minimum. They easily make lots of money. You’d be shocked how many clients they get, I’d guess at minimum 5 a day.
It makes a huge difference. Cities and areas with high populations of Pakistanis feel considerably different to the cities that don’t. There’s a huge, fairly unpleasant effect they have on the society around them.
I’m not him but I hate London because of how removed the people living there are from any semblance of any kind of core culture or behaviour.
Pakistanis literally all just live in East London. I'm from Southeast London and my immiediate area is mostly white and beyond is mostly white and black, there are no pakistanis except those that run the local corner shops
I used to live in Eltham and whilst I don't condone the shitbags that killed Stephen Lawrence, it did really help the area because much more desirable because undesirables moved to Peckham and other shitholes.
If someone had the balls, they'd use it as a case study and share the conclusion.
Not saying the area is by any means perfect, but that's more to do with lack of education and bad parenting.
I’m spending a night in Astor park Friday solo, where should I go to get shitty?
London is fun to live in in your twenties
There, I said it
Only cities worth seeing in the UK are Liverpool and Edinburgh. The rest are soulless. London is full of pakis and Muslims. Hardly any white people. Liverpool is 99% white and Edinburgh has a few tourists but it's fine. And before someone says
>Liverpool is known for thieves and crime!!!!
Yeah, in the 1970s. Now it's fairly safe, as long as you don't get involved with drug gangs. Then you will get shot
>Another /misc/tard who is obsessed about skin color and demographics to determine if somewhere is good or not
Scousers are not unemployed drug addicts. The non whites that live in London all contribute far more to this countries tax revenue than any scouser who are just worthless leaches
what do you think about poles?
>early 20s zoomer
>go touch grass in london
>90% of people at events are 27+
>this is for 'cool' 'young people' stuff too, not generic meetup.com normie stuff
is this a london thing or are all big cities around the world like this? i was gonna try and move somewhere with more zoomers but if this is everywhere i'll just stay here
i tried to talk to some very nice zoomer ladies outside this pub the other day but i was very sweaty due to coming out from a punk gig on the other side of the road and didn't want to miss the last band so yeah we didn't get with them this time
was gonna make my own thread but theres like 3+ london threads right now so might wait a bit idk
This is literally the problem with London.
It’s a city of pathetic millennial tech/finance workers, ethnic zoomers that have their own spaces and live in their own bubbles, out-of-towners and the uber rich, which again have their own spaces and places inaccessible to you.
London doesn’t have a normal, common core population that holds it together. My girlfriend lives in the centre of a major European city, in a very nice, beautiful area, and her family just work standard jobs, she works at a restaurant, and they all get by just fine. The same can’t be said about anywhere in London, where shitty, scummy houses which cost £35k 30 years ago now cost close to a million.
>i was gonna try and move somewhere with more zoomers
>punk gig
That's your problem. Zoomers think guitars are too edgy and the non-repetitive lyrics and occasional missed chord from a punk band bothers the generation that is used to pitch perfect AI produced electronic music.
You're supposed to go to a Porter Robinson show, download Grindr, and suck a troony's gock in the toilets. That's the zoomer thing to do.
But seriously London is all about /fin/ which zoomers don't like to begin with plus its incredibly expensive and too gatekeepy for a generation that is at the beginning of their careers and their parent's probably don't live in London anymore so they can't either.
My suggestion is college towns or cities that are techy but relatively affordable. IDK what that looks like in the UK but in the US its places like Denver and Portland.
Or just figure out how to hang with people who are a couple years older than you. The zoomers I know that aren't completely insufferable are the ones who are well rounded enough to engage people in their 20s and 30s and have things in common.
>27 is old
???
>You think they live completely on their own lol? Usually you’ll have 3-4 girls working at any one house
Some kind of foreign people smuggling has always been my leading theory however I went as far as visiting one to ask some questions and she claimed to be independent. She did say she used to work in a shared house though but left because they were b***hes.
>It makes a huge difference. Cities and areas with high populations of Pakistanis feel considerably different to the cities that don’t. There’s a huge, fairly unpleasant effect they have on the society around them.
I don't see why a Pakistani town is any worse than a white chav town. They both ruin the area. What is wrong with a ruined area anyway? They are probably the only thing keeping London house prices down these days.
>. What is wrong with a ruined area anyway?
doesn't it cause the non-ruined areas to become more expensive if some places nearby turn to shit, and the shit area will just have a negative feedbackloop stores close because there aren't paying customers, junkies move in because there are vacant stores to camp infront of, more stores close down because people want to avoid the junkies
>What is wrong with a ruined area anyway?
In many cases, these were often genuinely nice, working-middle class neighbourhoods which have been effectively colonised by Pakistanis who started moving in en masse. Local pubs start to close. The feel of the area begins to change. More people move out because it no longer fits their needs (white flight) Mosques are built. Chain stores begin to close. 20 years later the local school is taken over by some Islamic educational group, a completely fractured sense of community and rife Islamo nepotism. Half the people genuinely don’t speak English, simply being white will get you looked at sideways.
>simply being white will get you looked at sideways.
i stayed in hackney (had a free place to stay), and it felt this this was happening - i just assumed they were assessing if could rob me
Why is there no butter in my hotel?
Look in the tray with the biscuits and tea next to the kettle.
N E W C A ST L E
Also Nottingham or Leicester. Hang around the ex-polys at term time.
NYC is still shit? I thought Giluani or whatever his name was cleaned it up and even Harlem got gentrified?
I agree they take over an area and don't mix.
Hackney is a white area now though.
>N E W C A ST L E
What makes it so great?
Party town
>Hackney is a white area now though.
maybe by london standards
though to be fair the only criminal act i witnessed was by a ?white bike thief
What are the best places to get laid in the UK, since clearly it's not London?
Was a student here 2009-2011, was kinda meh, sure as a clueless, penniless youth you can't appreciate the high tier stuff, but still very eh compared to the places I've visited traveling abroad. At least the museums didn't have airport style security back then like nowadays though.
i wanna go share a pint and some stories with a dude like this in a comfy norf pub. where go?
they're in ever pub, thats why they look like they do
Where do people go out partying in London? At what time do they close? I prefer pubs to discos.
Is Fulham a good area to live in?
It's a weird place. Should be a shithole but the houses there are so phenomenally expensive that they're kept looking nice and on most days it's one of the least threatening parts of central London that have lots of housing. It's one of those things where I'd like living there, but for £1m starting price for a terraced house, I'd rather live a lot of other places.
It's also got big football stadiums on either side so you get matchday crowds and drunks.
Places like Fulham, as you described, is why I absolutely despise London.
There are expensive places all over the world, but generally speaking, you get what you pay for. In most cities around the world, any neighbourhood or borough that has a 1m+ starting price is a prime, plush place to live, where you can experience a beautiful quality of life which ample benefits to living there.
In London, 1m gets you a fairly unassuming, relatively small house, in a grey, drab, boring suburb with nothing unique or of note happening, with the same boring old pubs you find in any other part of the country. I genuinely don’t understand the benefits to living there.
The fact you're 10 minutes on the tube from anything is the appeal.
The big issue is that so many of these places used to be shitholes 30-40 years ago. They got gentrified but strict planning permission meant loads of house are still 1950s "we need to build as many houses as quickly as possible" shit whilst the brownfield sites that did get demolished became expensive apartment blocks.
My dad used to live in Battersea and used to walk to see Chelsea. He was poor as hell. Now you'd need to be at least a paper millionaire to live there.
There is some comfy housing in London though, in the areas that have been upmarket for 100's of years. I do like Georgian townhouses.
>The fact you're 10 minutes on the tube from anything is the appeal.
I get that, but for the same money, you could literally live in a beautiful area, in an opulent apartment, close or in the centre of a lively, exciting city.
When I bring this up you often hear "but London has better opportunities!!" which then makes me wonder, if you have the skills/money already to live there in London, you can utilise those basically anywhere and not pay London's outrageous prices and also have a better quality of life.
In regards tot he areas that have been upmarket for 100s of years, A) They cost a fricking bomb and B) they still manage to have a lot of fricking problems despite the money. I lived in South Kensington for a while, just by the tube station. I'd constantly be accosted by homeless freaks and see balacava'd yutes spinning around on their e-scooters.
New York is the same. ANY single family home (attached or detached), even in the shittiest most random far flung areas is $1M.
when are we gonna get a balaclava license
You need a license to make Mediterranean desserts?