I always hated an idea of travelling cause it's so much fake. You are not visiting genuine, authentic culture of some particular place, you are rather fricking with tourist sites that are 100% marketing and has zero authenticity with respect to culture you believe you are facing. You are getting served same drinks everywhere and buy same chinese souvenirs. Everything there is to milk you.
If i wanted to genuinely travel and get to know their culture i'd skim casual streets, get drink in random corner stores, visit random granny, talk to random guys, YOU CONTINUE. Cause that's where true culture and authenticity lies, not some eiffel tower selfies where everyone's out there to milk you and there are 700 other cats who are acting just like you, completely draining you of any uniquity that gonna feed your inner self.
What's your take on my take?
Yes obviously. Nobody told you have to do it a certain way.2snt8
what i meant is i am criticizing people, majority, who do it that way.
I agree with you but what are you trying to prove with this thread?
Yes, most people like to stay in their lane. I think you're kind of preaching to the choir already on a board like this one. Also, more people frequenting the great big palace means fewer people frequenting the nooks and crannies where you want to go.
What i am trying to conieve is i genuinely wish i knew what kinda appeal they see there.
Also i would embrace if this trend died and most people started reasoning like me.
Most of those people travel to check something off on their list to take a picture that proves to everybody and themselves that they went someplace. Obviously most of the population is not smart or cultured or anything like that. To go to Paris is to go to the Eiffel Tower. To go to New York is to go to the Statue of Liberty. That’s what it means to them. Travel is a monument where you can take a picture. Let them be. There is no point judging people who are ordinary.
nice take, you get it.
if i visited nyc btw, first thing i'd do is visit queensbridge housing projects.
That's called slow travel. You are a cumbrain tho
cope more, normie.
if you tell the majority to start doing that, locals will be way more hostile to foreigners and ruin authentic travel for those who do spend the effort in learning a language and empathizing with people
i think you gotta grow up, dude. i am surprised you haven't realized yet that people doing shit things is good for people who like doing fun things. you patrolling other's tastes is something you do before turning 20
>i am surprised you haven't realized yet that people doing shit things is good for people who like doing fun things. you patrolling other's tastes is something you do before turning 20
i wonder you'd get that impression from my post, it's not like i am demanding anyone to unironically act like me, i am just saying i dislike some particular behavior. don't feed me that bullshit that you never criticize things you don't like, it's some of the basic human thing.
no, i certainly don't spend as much energy as you do in criticizing others. it's necessary for the preservation of good things that shit people who like shit things exist.
your comment is not particularly insightful either, the RealTraveler(TM) meme is older than many big boards on SighSee.
Sometimes I think about this and I realize I don't care about people either and I just stay home. The only thing that might fulfill me is raising kids honestly - everything else feels so hollow and I should just follow my natural instincts instead...
This is why I rent a car, drive from A to B, stop in the middle of nowhere. Sometimes a shithole, sometimes a village with nothing much going on. Go to a restaurant without checking any reviews. But I always enjoy these, it’s more genuine and I always come back as a different person.
As a funny fact, I have had the best coffee with milk and sandwich in my life in some random Spanish village (and there was absolutely nowhere else to drink and eat anyway).
Their loss. Who cares about what most people do.
also frick those half-baked wineries and fake nostalgic style bars with charcoal-written menus on some banner. and frick souvenire shops.
Ideally, you'd get an authentic cultural experience. If not, then at the very least, you can try to get something that you normally couldn't in your own country. Lots of people travel to do things that aren't available in their own country, are a lot more expensive in their own country, or are illegal in their own country.
In
Their
Own
Country.
Everything you wanted to achieve happened to me in Paris without trying. Sucks to be you, I guess.
If you want a more "genuine" experience then just go off the beaten path. I spent half my time in Prague doing tourist shit and the other half outright avoiding tourist spots. Many bars and restaurants I went to had to struggle to find a server that could at least speak 5 words in english to take my order and I could tell you honestly that I was the only non-czech person there. Additionally, you can quite literally just talk to anyone working at these major sites since they are also actual authentic people. The czech server at the small beerhall at the exit of prague's castle is there to serve tourists, but when I ask her about what she does and where she goes, it's not tourism that I get out of it. We ended up on a date together just from that conversation and we ended up barhopping in places where I needed her to translate for me.
The whole "its not genuine because they sell to tourists" is a moronic contrarian take, the reality is that you're a fricking moron to not sell to tourists in a world where tourism makes up a massive percentage of your GDP. Hell, fricking Kyoto is on the verge of bankruptcy thanks to Japan's tourism ban, should they go bankrupt and let everything fall into disrepair just to offer you an "authentic experience"?
>talk to random guys, visit random grannys
literally no one and nothing is stopping you from doing this anywhere you go to. You can speak to an old Parisian granny who'se lived there since 1950 if you want to, right next to the eiffel tower, and it will be an authentic experience, its not like she's a paid actress or some shit.
You're the opposite of the basic b***h instathot going to india because "its so cultural maaaaaan, you haven't even felt the spirits flowing in the air brooooo" except your take is "im just so above it all maaaaan, its not authentic enough broooooooooo!"
You should also consider that marketizing the site not only makes it sound inauthentic, but aesthetically not fitting. For example if i am visiting some old church it's just big turn off to me to see some modern shop next to it, with lightboxes, free wifi signs and etc, it just takes the vibe away, if i am going to feel antique or medieval, i should go full-blown, and seeing prices and modern merchantic things definitely takes away the nature to it, it's like beer and soup.
>its inauthentic for a city with old stuff to move on to the 21st century, they have to remain in the middle ages or its inauthentic and ruined
Dumbest and most selfish take of the year
Yeah i agree, but sometimes people want to visit a country just to have a taste of the famous things on those countries, rather than the true experience of living in the place... for example, if i were to go to Italy, i'd of course visit the famous tourist spots, because it's beautiful and memorable, but i'd try to eat at a more hidden italian pizza place if i wanted to have a taste of the 'authentic' italian pizza.
So i think it's good to have a mixture of both, like, you go to the famous places and stuff because they are memorable things to witness with our own eyes, but you can also go to places a bit more distant rom the spotlight, to have a taste of something more genuine.
Don't do that here in Brazil though, i'm serious. There's a high risk you'll get mugged mah bois. Wherever you go, keep your wits about you.
This. Best to do both ideally. It depends on the goal of the trip too. Also a person can always come back and do less touristy things too as their familiarity and comfort level rises.
But also like you point out, always best to be smart and don't get too comftorable exploring.
Yeah i mean, even in your own town/city you gotta be careful, you don't go around entering every seedy bar, let alone do that in an unknown land you're not familiar with. Might lead to a good story to tell your friends later, or it might lead to your final story, so you gotta be careful.
Aight but the point in the thread is: do what you feel is right for the type of the travel you wish to experience. If you're there just for a few days, it's generally a good idea to just stick with seeing the famous sites and sights. Maybe if you travel multiple times to the same place and get confortable with it, you can start getting a bit more adventurous (but still taking care).
>I genuinely don't understand how different people can like different opinions and have different interests to myself
Being on the spectrum should get you a lifetime ban from the internet
fallacious point you made, everyone can have the taste and interests they want to, but it still wouldnt mean i can not dislike or even think is non-understandable nonsense.
>but it still wouldnt mean i can not dislike or even think is non-understandable nonsense.
or, as a matter of a fact, be objectively stupid.
"Objectively stupid", as if all humans were autonomous agents whose only purpose is to maximize a survival function.
Come on, some people simply hate the idea of going to unpopular places or picking up a phrasebook because it gives them anxiety and tires them out, and they just want traveling to be rest and recreation with a change of environment. It also serves as social posturing which helps them increase their status in their social groups. They're maximizing their own survival functions which is far from stupid.
Complaining online on a niche board IS objectively stupid though. The audience you're trying to reach isn't even here.
How is this complaining, i am just conceiving my opinion, it's fine even if it's negative or opposes someone else's. How do you know what audience i am even trying to get at? Yes, the board is enough.
Looks like you agree it's not stupid to be a mainstream tourist then.
couple posts already explained why your opinion is wrong anyway, because you coped and said the thread was just to discuss things or whatever
admit it homosexual your opinion is shit and you were just farming for upboats
also keep the muh "fallacious" to your high school debate club, this is fricking 4cheddit
I agree, I travel the same way
I just go to places that look fun enough, couldnt care less about making real connections with the locals or their culture.
>I just go to places that look fun enough, couldnt care less about making real connections with the locals or their culture.
>skim casual streets, get drink in random corner stores, visit random granny, talk to random guys
very low tier tourist shit
traveling is for gays
>If i wanted to genuinely travel and get to know their culture i'd skim casual streets, get drink in random corner stores, visit random granny, talk to random guys,
No shit, congratulations you discovered the RealTraveler™ meme
In a way, it's refreshing to see a RealTraveler™ thread again instead of yet more prostitutemongering.
You sound so bohemian and worldly anon, I'll give you a discount on your next back alley blowie.
based and redpilled.
>le 4cheddit uptoot
back you go
tl;dr OP is a typical mutt tourist who never ventured deep enough in his travels, I bet you ate at mcdonalds in pattaya homosexual
During my last trip in HK I decided to go off the beaten path and get up to the north near the chinese mainland, it's a completely different world. They were cutting up turtles and making them into jelly, washing clothes out in the open, underage hookers calling you, if thats not a culture shock idk what that is
Every country is different, but ideally, you do a mix. I just got back from 2 weeks in a Kenya and 1 in Uganda. Had to do the Kenya safari, which was about as touristy as you can get, but it’s worth it to see that wildlife.
But once in Uganda, I was able to have total control over my itinerary and things got much more real. Going to local reggae bars to take a hit off the bartender’s spliff, getting recommended a sketchy ass bar way off in the interior of Entebbe by some Tanzanian Rasta freestyler who barely spoke English, going and seeing one of the best dance performances of my life while 80 Africans glower at me for invading their authentic space, that will be a cherished memory for the rest of my life. How authentic was this bar? They had two bedrooms in the back alley on the way to the WC with busty jungle bunnies ready to suck and frick at a moment’s notice.