New York City

Moving to NYC soon (Manhattan or Brooklyn):
>23 years old
>Just graduated from Berkeley with comp sci degree
>DoorDash software engineer level E3, work from home 30-ish hours weekly
>160k salary and bonus + 50k stocks/year
>Absolutely no friends here

Any cool places or general advice on things to do? I'll probably join clubs or go to some mixers or some shit. I'll go into the office too and make some friends.

Terminally online virgins don't enter, thank you.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool blog gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This
      OP quit humble bragging. You really think you’re gonna find quality advice about NYC on sighsee? If you’re an engineer you’d think you’d be smarter than that. Use your fucking brain

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DoorDash software engineer
    american tech is such a meme, this recession can't come sooner

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >currymonkey calling others terminally online virgin
    >asking for advice on sighsee
    the joke tells itself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When the curry makes more money than you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be white. No matter how much money you make or what wealth you accumulate, you will always be a pot bellied brown weirdo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you will never, EVER, be white!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >currymonkey
      My fucking sides.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you haven't been here very long, have you?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you haven't been here very long, have you?

        >tfw the currymonkey doesn't know his place and actually has a career and social life
        >t. white master race that will get laid when I save up enough to visit the Philippines one day

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You’re kind of baiting these retards by mentioning your salary here. People on this board get really crabby when someone makes more money than them, doubly so for the thirdies and shitskins lurking here.

    You’ve lived in the Bay Area, so you probably know already, but $160k (even with a bonus) won’t go as far as you think in NYC if you’re also saving for retirement or spending on anything outside of the basics. I’d recommend not living in Manhattan just for the sake of the rent, although the good neighborhoods in Brooklyn aren’t any cheaper any more.

    Getting involved in an alumni group is a decent first way to make friends (and a school like Berkeley is certain to have a big one in the city). I hope you enjoy the city, anon. It’s a cool place.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The exorbitant rent you pay if you live in Manhattan isn't that bad if you are committed to ONLY ever being in the city and completely forgoe a car. Also, just scale down bro. you can get a cozy place in the upper east side for $2500. you gotta remember, in manhattan, the difference between a $2500 apartment and a $4500 apartment is literally a few blocks and you are paying for the street cred of being able to say you live in greenwhich village or gramercy park instead of east harlem or ukranian village.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're not a very good engineer if you can't hack the process of making friends and building a social circle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >engineers

      >building a social circle

      Pick one

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I make slightly more than you in NYC. 160k is not a lot in NYC. Here's the break down-

    Tax-8000/month
    Housing-3000/month
    Food-1000/month
    Gym-200/month
    Electricity-200
    Supplies-400

    Which gives you about 3000 for savings and entertainment. A Knicks ticket is already 200 ish. If you want to eat a bit better that's 150. A quarterly trip will cost you about $300/month.

    What I am saying is, with 160k in NYC, stick to the cheap stuff.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Housing-3000/month

      Dang man. Is it one of those "studio" apartments with paper-thin walls or something, you know, livable?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No. Even though the average rent for Manhattan is >$4400, there are plenty of option beside downtown or Harlem.

        Upper West Side
        1 bedroom
        10+ floor
        Corner unit
        Overlooks Hudson River
        <$3000

        Got the apartment within 3 days of looking this summer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      check out the lower east side and williamsburg. good places to start out and seeing what the nightlife is like. you might not like it but that’s what we have

      gym doesn’t have to be more than $100, a Blink gym will cost you $30 a month. And if you’re shopping and cooking at home a decent amount that food cost gets cut in half. trader joe’s is your best friend

      I lived in NYC for ten years 2009-2019. Here's what I can tell you
      >absolutely kino city to be early 20s in, late 20s not so much - enjoy it but don't plan on spending your life there
      >best to live with 1-2 other roommates in brooklyn for built-in social network and chill nightlife/stuff to do
      >get to know your neighborhood spots. be a regular at a local bar/restaurant, get invited to their events. make frens that way
      >go to shows. clubs, mixers blah blah - easier to connect with people on IG than getting their numbers (direct communication weirds out new yorkers)

      Most of all, just enjoy being in the city while you're there. I miss very little about that shithole, but I do miss walking for hours in the city streets, completely anonymous and alone, surrounded by millions of other lonely drifters. I now live out innawoods where I can hike in nature (kino) but can't do the whole urban walk thing.

      As others have said, you're making pretty much nothing for NYC, so I wouldn't even worry about it too much.

      Agree except for the last part, I make 60k and get by more than fine

      210k tc is actually okay for 23, living in Manhattan.

      Pay a photographer before you go to NYC for some photos in nice places of your home and then in NYC for cliche spots, to build your network, it's easiest and who know you may even get sex too.

      Buy a good bike, roadbike, aluminium or general 9 speed - nothing more fancy then aluminium and a sora drivetrain, maybe 105 if you find a good older deal.

      That's it, it's fucking NYC.

      good take

      >all these posts about living in Upper Manhattan or some shit part of Brooklyn
      Do sighsee fags really?
      I went on a date with a girl in Tribeca where I had to schlep all the way from the UWS.
      It took me an hour.
      I got there so late she looked ready to throw her drink in my face.
      Getting back to where I was staying cost me $50 for an Uber, as the streets were deserted and I had enough run-ins with schizophrenic morons at that point.
      $210k TC is perfectly fine for Lower Manhattan, don't listen to all these fags telling you it isn't.
      Yeah, you're not gonna be living like a king the way you would in Latin America for half that money, but for your purposes it should be fine. Just keep an eye on lifestyle inflation. Keep your habits from being a poor student. Except for maybe an Equinox membership, to meet bitches.
      Learn to cook. Pregame before you go out, and live within walking distance of your favorite haunts. These things alone will help a lot.
      Splurge on rent, live near the trust fund girls. Get cool roommates. You only live once, after all.
      My early 20's were lost to the pandemic, don't take these years for granted.
      Buy pepper spray to keep your slight Asian frame from being savaged by morons. I recommend the POM brand.

      based, carrying a folding knife wouldn’t hurt either
      >t. lifelong nycfag and current brooklyn resident

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ty ty. I've lived in East Village for 2 weeks with my buddy and loved it but it's financial rape rn.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I lived in NYC for ten years 2009-2019. Here's what I can tell you
    >absolutely kino city to be early 20s in, late 20s not so much - enjoy it but don't plan on spending your life there
    >best to live with 1-2 other roommates in brooklyn for built-in social network and chill nightlife/stuff to do
    >get to know your neighborhood spots. be a regular at a local bar/restaurant, get invited to their events. make frens that way
    >go to shows. clubs, mixers blah blah - easier to connect with people on IG than getting their numbers (direct communication weirds out new yorkers)

    Most of all, just enjoy being in the city while you're there. I miss very little about that shithole, but I do miss walking for hours in the city streets, completely anonymous and alone, surrounded by millions of other lonely drifters. I now live out innawoods where I can hike in nature (kino) but can't do the whole urban walk thing.

    As others have said, you're making pretty much nothing for NYC, so I wouldn't even worry about it too much.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. I'll probably move to Massachusetts or somewhere in New England to retire in peace. Thanks for the advice

      visit dumbo
      be prepared to pay a lot for everything
      nyc is such a great place to live though you definitely made the right choice
      can't wait to have you as my neighbor 🙂 welcome
      also please don't move to FL haha thanks. that's unrelated I just wanted you to know how great NYC is and how shit FL is. Thanks.

      Just to bring a reality check to your sarcasm, New York is better in every QoL aspect (income, health, education, life satisfaction, human development, safety) compared to Florida.

      People just moved there because it's cheaper, has no income taxes, and has nice weather. That's literally all. Don't get in over your head due to your manlet culture war governor.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    visit dumbo
    be prepared to pay a lot for everything
    nyc is such a great place to live though you definitely made the right choice
    can't wait to have you as my neighbor 🙂 welcome
    also please don't move to FL haha thanks. that's unrelated I just wanted you to know how great NYC is and how shit FL is. Thanks.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    210k tc is actually okay for 23, living in Manhattan.

    Pay a photographer before you go to NYC for some photos in nice places of your home and then in NYC for cliche spots, to build your network, it's easiest and who know you may even get sex too.

    Buy a good bike, roadbike, aluminium or general 9 speed - nothing more fancy then aluminium and a sora drivetrain, maybe 105 if you find a good older deal.

    That's it, it's fucking NYC.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this a real post or a LARP?

      Is Doordash really paying new hires $210,000 per year when factoring in stock options for only 30 hours of work per week? It seems like extra made up bullshit that some fresh grad will be hired as a mid level software engineer.

      As an aside, part 1:
      Apple and Google need to make food delivery an OS level bundled app. It is so annoying in the USA to have to a stupid app like Slice just to pre-order/get deliveries from fancy independent pizza places, individual apps for big fast chains like Chipotle, Burger King, White Castle, Taco Bell, apps for coffee chains/convenience stores like Wawa, Dunkin Donuts, apps for general delivery services that smaller restaurants use like Grubhub, Seamless, Uber Eats(never used Doordash).

      Plus when you travel you have to often install a different app as the American giants of food delivery aren't universal. In Greece e-food is the biggest. I have that installed in case I need it.

      I just counted and I have 11 food type delivery/pre-order apps on my Iphone! The lazy urban yuppies who eat out all the time probably emasculate my app count on that front.

      Isn't it past time that this niche was better catered to by one single app on the Iphone side created by Apple and another app created by Google/Alphabet?

      part 2:
      Any Chinese from China here: Is China this retarded? The CCP are still somewhat Marxists and despite their free trade experiments they believe in dialectical materialism. In China are what should be relatively modest companies like Doordash turned into giants because people believe they will become the next stock market fueled method/ponzi scheme toward wealth?

      I am thinking of investing more in China, because I think that by the time I'm 60(I'm 40 now) they will have won the trade war so stunningly against the moribund and dying USA. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

      In China can companies that don't have a strong physical basis in reality become so easily dominant?

      he's not making $210/year, $50k of that is in stock which will be worth nothing by the time it vests. doordash has been losing over $500 mil a year even while users and orders skyrocketed during the plandemic. they literally lose $2 per order and have no viable plan to ever make money, especially not while paying their drivers a livable wage, of which over 50% comes from tips. in fact no food delivery company in the world is profitable because it is a flawed business model propped up by VC money and ESG investors. props to op though for milking them for some pocket change before they go under.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Finally a poster who is not a retard. Also you forgot my contention that this poster is claiming to be hired as a mid-level engineer off the bat. Which is likely very suspect, but maybe a company as badly run as Doordash is that dumb.

        Yeah I have listend to lots of podcast and read about how this shitty sinking country is being ruined by over financialization. To give a famous example, by far the largest automaker by market share is Telsa. But if you look at the actual production levels of how many cars actual you know actual cars various auto makers make, Telsa is almost or exactly dead last. Toyota was number one last I checked.

        So many of these IT vaporware companies have huge stock values, but their only business model is busting a nut through the billions dumb venture capitalists put up hoping to find the next Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook and they can't and never will turn a profit.

        Which is I mentioned China and investing there in my post:

        Is this a real post or a LARP?

        Is Doordash really paying new hires $210,000 per year when factoring in stock options for only 30 hours of work per week? It seems like extra made up bullshit that some fresh grad will be hired as a mid level software engineer.

        As an aside, part 1:
        Apple and Google need to make food delivery an OS level bundled app. It is so annoying in the USA to have to a stupid app like Slice just to pre-order/get deliveries from fancy independent pizza places, individual apps for big fast chains like Chipotle, Burger King, White Castle, Taco Bell, apps for coffee chains/convenience stores like Wawa, Dunkin Donuts, apps for general delivery services that smaller restaurants use like Grubhub, Seamless, Uber Eats(never used Doordash).

        Plus when you travel you have to often install a different app as the American giants of food delivery aren't universal. In Greece e-food is the biggest. I have that installed in case I need it.

        I just counted and I have 11 food type delivery/pre-order apps on my Iphone! The lazy urban yuppies who eat out all the time probably emasculate my app count on that front.

        Isn't it past time that this niche was better catered to by one single app on the Iphone side created by Apple and another app created by Google/Alphabet?

        part 2:
        Any Chinese from China here: Is China this retarded? The CCP are still somewhat Marxists and despite their free trade experiments they believe in dialectical materialism. In China are what should be relatively modest companies like Doordash turned into giants because people believe they will become the next stock market fueled method/ponzi scheme toward wealth?

        I am thinking of investing more in China, because I think that by the time I'm 60(I'm 40 now) they will have won the trade war so stunningly against the moribund and dying USA. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

        In China can companies that don't have a strong physical basis in reality become so easily dominant?

        I don't know what structural problems China has, but it can't be as bad as the USA-Uk where the fucked up financial industries are the biggest earners. Where the top graduates get scooped up not by NASA or companies that produce physically useful goods, but by Wall Street and these vaporware IT companies like Doordash, Uber, Google/Alphabet, Meta/Facebook, etc. This is like the recipe for a society that wants to collapse.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's a retard and so are you, anyone who talks commie propaganda about a living wage can't be trusted for advice about markets, finance, corporations or where to live

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he used a word i don't like so his entire point is invalid
            great way to dismiss something you can't argue with logically, i suppose.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wrong, if they believe in Easter bunny concepts like living wage or global warming they are obvious npcs who can only spout whatever they hear from joy reid

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if 'livable' followed by 'wage'
                >exec commie.bat
                >"he's the npc"
                replace livable with decent, how does your programming respond now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That would be meaningless. Just say you deserve to be paid more than you are worth.

                But why you think you deserve more than you are worth you should ask yourself

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                all you're doing is making wrong assumptions based on a word you interpreted incorrectly which triggered you. i am a successful free market capitalist and agree with the points you're making. don't be such a putz.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Which is likely very suspect
          Not really, i've seen it happen at both google and microsoft for people graduating with masters and phds in AI/ML related academia
          >Yeah I have listend to lots of podcast and read
          That's cool man, do you have actual experience in it though?
          >largest automaker by market share is Telsa
          I assume you're talking about market price, and not market share? Those are very different things.
          >how many cars actual you know actual cars various auto makers make
          stock price is not a function of the number of cars a manufacturer makes, presumably you know that, but you're being difficult
          >IT vaporware companies
          Oh you sweet summer child. If you bothered to do any research at all, you'd know that there are thousands of companies in every industry that are in similar positions, but it's Mr Kramer's predictions that you latch on to.
          >top graduates get scooped up not by NASA
          First off, NASA is effectively an investment entity at this point, they do so little in house, I'm not even sure what these "top graduates" would work on. Event JPL has been eclipsed by the likes of ULA and SpaceX. Secondly, do you think the department of natural resources is picking up the top material science graduates? What about the FAA, think they're picking up the top aviation/air force school graduates?

          Most braindead, seething post I've seen in some time.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >which will be worth nothing by the time it vests
        doubt it, the way most companies do RSU's nowadays is a flat cash value at the time of vesting. meaning if the stock grant was 50k, you'd get $12.5k in stock per year at the vestment period, whether thats 100 shares or 10000.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all these posts about living in Upper Manhattan or some shit part of Brooklyn
    Do sighsee fags really?
    I went on a date with a girl in Tribeca where I had to schlep all the way from the UWS.
    It took me an hour.
    I got there so late she looked ready to throw her drink in my face.
    Getting back to where I was staying cost me $50 for an Uber, as the streets were deserted and I had enough run-ins with schizophrenic morons at that point.
    $210k TC is perfectly fine for Lower Manhattan, don't listen to all these fags telling you it isn't.
    Yeah, you're not gonna be living like a king the way you would in Latin America for half that money, but for your purposes it should be fine. Just keep an eye on lifestyle inflation. Keep your habits from being a poor student. Except for maybe an Equinox membership, to meet bitches.
    Learn to cook. Pregame before you go out, and live within walking distance of your favorite haunts. These things alone will help a lot.
    Splurge on rent, live near the trust fund girls. Get cool roommates. You only live once, after all.
    My early 20's were lost to the pandemic, don't take these years for granted.
    Buy pepper spray to keep your slight Asian frame from being savaged by morons. I recommend the POM brand.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Splurge on rent, live near the trust fund girls. Get cool roommates. You only live once, after all.

      What nieghborhoods do they live in?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here, great advice ty. I carry pepper spray even though I'm 5'11 and can fight. In NYC packs of losers do jump you though so I keep it at hand.

      Is this a real post or a LARP?

      Is Doordash really paying new hires $210,000 per year when factoring in stock options for only 30 hours of work per week? It seems like extra made up bullshit that some fresh grad will be hired as a mid level software engineer.

      As an aside, part 1:
      Apple and Google need to make food delivery an OS level bundled app. It is so annoying in the USA to have to a stupid app like Slice just to pre-order/get deliveries from fancy independent pizza places, individual apps for big fast chains like Chipotle, Burger King, White Castle, Taco Bell, apps for coffee chains/convenience stores like Wawa, Dunkin Donuts, apps for general delivery services that smaller restaurants use like Grubhub, Seamless, Uber Eats(never used Doordash).

      Plus when you travel you have to often install a different app as the American giants of food delivery aren't universal. In Greece e-food is the biggest. I have that installed in case I need it.

      I just counted and I have 11 food type delivery/pre-order apps on my Iphone! The lazy urban yuppies who eat out all the time probably emasculate my app count on that front.

      Isn't it past time that this niche was better catered to by one single app on the Iphone side created by Apple and another app created by Google/Alphabet?

      part 2:
      Any Chinese from China here: Is China this retarded? The CCP are still somewhat Marxists and despite their free trade experiments they believe in dialectical materialism. In China are what should be relatively modest companies like Doordash turned into giants because people believe they will become the next stock market fueled method/ponzi scheme toward wealth?

      I am thinking of investing more in China, because I think that by the time I'm 60(I'm 40 now) they will have won the trade war so stunningly against the moribund and dying USA. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

      In China can companies that don't have a strong physical basis in reality become so easily dominant?

      shut the fuck up you terminally online retard.
      https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/new-york-city-area?yoeChoice=junior&sinceDate=year

      This person is saying that they are being hired as mid level engineer as a fresh out of college, new-hire though. That is what makes it especially jump out as a LARP.

      "Mid level" shut the fuck up you retard

      [...]
      This, I'm the guy that called him out for humblebragging in the first post and even I think he may not be lying
      I went to another top CS school and there were lots of Asian types who:
      >never went out
      >got credit from high school AP classes
      >graduated with master's degrees within 4-5 years of starting undergrad
      Companies rightly see these kids as being in a league of their own. They have many options and companies that want them need to bid highly. Why would they accept $80k new grad offers like all the other retards when they can:
      >do quant stuff at Jane Street and Citadel like SBF did after MIT
      >do investment banking or consulting and set themselves up as future executives
      >do FAANG and make even more money for greater prestige
      Graduating with a high GPA at a CS program like Berkeley is a sign that someone has their shit together. They actually weed out CS majors and theirs isn't a program known for grade inflation like the ivies. People actually work their asses off.

      I'm not... You can look at First Destination surveys for my alma mater too (comp sci). 80% job rate within 6 months, median salary 140k (doesnt include bonus or stocks).

      Nice blogpost, retard. You literally couldn’t get more irrelevant to the subject of this post or board if you tried. Congrats on developing enough awareness to realize that true meritocracy literally cannot exist in the real world. Now if you’ve got some opinions on moving to NYC as a young professional, I’m sure we’d all love to hear them.

      thank you. where the fuck does the software engineers = socially stunted autist meme come from? many are but everyone majors in it nowadays.

      [...]
      he's not making $210/year, $50k of that is in stock which will be worth nothing by the time it vests. doordash has been losing over $500 mil a year even while users and orders skyrocketed during the plandemic. they literally lose $2 per order and have no viable plan to ever make money, especially not while paying their drivers a livable wage, of which over 50% comes from tips. in fact no food delivery company in the world is profitable because it is a flawed business model propped up by VC money and ESG investors. props to op though for milking them for some pocket change before they go under.

      I'm trying to get a job at ByteDance since they're safe from the tech rape happening atm and pay even higher. Ik DoorDash is fucked.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm trying to get a job at ByteDance
        the ccp parent company of tiktok? yeah that should be way safer.
        >ByteDance Ltd. (Chinese: 字节跳动; pinyin: Zìjié Tiàodòng) is a Chinese internet technology company headquartered in Beijing and incorporated in the Cayman Islands.[2] ByteDance has garnered public attention over surveillance[8] and privacy[9] concerns as well as allegations that it worked with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to censor content pertaining to the ongoing Uyghur genocide and other topics deemed sensitive by the CCP.[10][11][12][13]

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No one doubts you got a job at doordash and make good money. It’s the numbers that make no fucking sense. By your own link
        https://www.levels.fyi/companies/doordash/salaries/software-engineer
        You’re not making $170k pure salary right out of school at e3. You’re just full of shit and that’s what everyone’s calling you out on. Literally says average compensation for e3 is 135k salary. You’re making e4 money which is ~174k average salary. The anon who called you out about larping mid level that you sperged on is right, that’s probably why you sperged out so hard.
        This is why people get sick of the software engineer learn to code meme, because the people who make it make these dumbass blogposts and inflate their numbers to jerk themselves off to a bunch of losers on sighsee. It’s just pathetic dude. Maybe you’re actually god tier engineer and had multiple competing offers but even then it’s hard to buy you landed a $170k pure salary job especially in the middle of tech layoffs everywhere. If you had just been honest about your salary people wouldn’t have called you on it, also mentioning your salary at all on sighsee is just bragging like a gay. Be honest, that’s the only reason you brought it up. You could have easily just said “I make good money in tech for my age recommend me some areas” but nah you had to throw out unrealistically high numbers to jerk yourself off. On top of le epic Berkeley degree. It’s just obnoxious dude. Try to have some humility once in awhile.
        >t. lead engineer that roles his eyes at posts like this every other week

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Working at FAANG. My department hired 2 fresh grads (1 bachelor 1 master) this past summer. It does happen if you are good enough (I am not).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They both make about 170k btw, which is less than what I (with 15 years of experience) make but not by much.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They both make about 170k btw, which is less than what I (with 15 years of experience) make but not by much.

            I’m aware it happens, it’s just not very likely, more likely that op just padded his numbers given how defensive he got when people poked him about it. Regardless, if he did land a $160k salary job right out of school that’s awesome, but posting a salary and Berkeley degree on sighsee of all places is just cringe. It’s cringe on sighsee and it’s even more cringe here. This isn’t the tech worker general on sighsee, nor is it sighsee, it’s fucking sighsee. Posting his salary served nothing but to inflate his own ego. It’s pathetic.
            Could have easily just said:
            >hey guys just landed a well paying tech job, moving to nyc, any recommendations?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a real post or a LARP?

    Is Doordash really paying new hires $210,000 per year when factoring in stock options for only 30 hours of work per week? It seems like extra made up bullshit that some fresh grad will be hired as a mid level software engineer.

    As an aside, part 1:
    Apple and Google need to make food delivery an OS level bundled app. It is so annoying in the USA to have to a stupid app like Slice just to pre-order/get deliveries from fancy independent pizza places, individual apps for big fast chains like Chipotle, Burger King, White Castle, Taco Bell, apps for coffee chains/convenience stores like Wawa, Dunkin Donuts, apps for general delivery services that smaller restaurants use like Grubhub, Seamless, Uber Eats(never used Doordash).

    Plus when you travel you have to often install a different app as the American giants of food delivery aren't universal. In Greece e-food is the biggest. I have that installed in case I need it.

    I just counted and I have 11 food type delivery/pre-order apps on my Iphone! The lazy urban yuppies who eat out all the time probably emasculate my app count on that front.

    Isn't it past time that this niche was better catered to by one single app on the Iphone side created by Apple and another app created by Google/Alphabet?

    part 2:
    Any Chinese from China here: Is China this retarded? The CCP are still somewhat Marxists and despite their free trade experiments they believe in dialectical materialism. In China are what should be relatively modest companies like Doordash turned into giants because people believe they will become the next stock market fueled method/ponzi scheme toward wealth?

    I am thinking of investing more in China, because I think that by the time I'm 60(I'm 40 now) they will have won the trade war so stunningly against the moribund and dying USA. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

    In China can companies that don't have a strong physical basis in reality become so easily dominant?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm just a plain ol' mid level mechanical engineer and I make $170 TC. I'm sure software bubbas are pretty up there.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This person is saying that they are being hired as mid level engineer as a fresh out of college, new-hire though. That is what makes it especially jump out as a LARP.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          mmmm, if he got a masters from a brand name school, i could see that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I could see a company doing that if he applied himself and actually developed a useful and good open source software project himself or by managing an already popular big free software project and proved himself.

            Or to use a non-free software example from a very famous programmer: let's examine Mark Zuckerberger. In college he contributed to a machine learning music suggestion app. Story:
            https://news.slashdot.org/story/03/04/21/110236/machine-learning-and-mp3s

            Zuck's comment back when he was 18 on that app and he would protect data privacy(hilarious in hindsight given that he and his company have becoming one of the biggest spying machines and sellers of user data):
            >https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=5774175&sid=61425&tid=236

            Eventually he made a hot or not clone(defunct now) that rated women's looks called Facemash.

            Do you think a sighsee autist applied himself like that or wasted his time on shitposting, weaboing? I can see why a software company would reward a Zuckerberg type who really applied himself in college, but I can't see why they would do so solely based on the prestige of the university and because they underwent extra schooling(past a bachelors). But I know that companies are that retarded to make hiring decisions based purely on having a degree and being from a prestigious university.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I could see a company doing that if he applied himself and actually developed a useful and good open source software project himself or by managing an already popular big free software project and proved himself.

            Or to use a non-free software example from a very famous programmer: let's examine Mark Zuckerberger. In college he contributed to a machine learning music suggestion app. Story:
            https://news.slashdot.org/story/03/04/21/110236/machine-learning-and-mp3s

            Zuck's comment back when he was 18 on that app and he would protect data privacy(hilarious in hindsight given that he and his company have becoming one of the biggest spying machines and sellers of user data):
            >https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=5774175&sid=61425&tid=236

            Eventually he made a hot or not clone(defunct now) that rated women's looks called Facemash.

            Do you think a sighsee autist applied himself like that or wasted his time on shitposting, weaboing? I can see why a software company would reward a Zuckerberg type who really applied himself in college, but I can't see why they would do so solely based on the prestige of the university and because they underwent extra schooling(past a bachelors). But I know that companies are that retarded to make hiring decisions based purely on having a degree and being from a prestigious university.

            This, I'm the guy that called him out for humblebragging in the first post and even I think he may not be lying
            I went to another top CS school and there were lots of Asian types who:
            >never went out
            >got credit from high school AP classes
            >graduated with master's degrees within 4-5 years of starting undergrad
            Companies rightly see these kids as being in a league of their own. They have many options and companies that want them need to bid highly. Why would they accept $80k new grad offers like all the other retards when they can:
            >do quant stuff at Jane Street and Citadel like SBF did after MIT
            >do investment banking or consulting and set themselves up as future executives
            >do FAANG and make even more money for greater prestige
            Graduating with a high GPA at a CS program like Berkeley is a sign that someone has their shit together. They actually weed out CS majors and theirs isn't a program known for grade inflation like the ivies. People actually work their asses off.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, I know that there are many no social life East Asians who because of their family and social pressure tend to dominate in American education. I have witnessed them first hand during my schooling. But there are others, like say Yung Leung whose family owned a Chinese restaurant who were shit students(but that is a different subject).

              The issue is, & I am sure you can't understand because you are probably too socially retarded:
              being a good programmer has nothing to do with getting good grades in any school or even a CS program, even a top CS program.

              Being a good programmer is proven by actually programming & being good at it. Now that is not the way our society works - it pretends to be a meritocracy & to a small extent it is, but school is mostly our form of how we perpetuate the class system.

              To use another example, I got plastic surgery in 2020 & since I am that type of person I researched into it. I read one study that was setup like this:
              Surgeons were allowed to view videos of other surgeons doing surgeries and made to assess them based on the footage. The study found that simply from viewing other surgeons, fellow surgeons could accurately assess their skill fairly well. The researchers found that the surgeons assessed as being good by their colleagues from remote viewing most often had patients with less post operative problems, less recovery time, etc. If someone has good hand dexterity, graceful movement, etc. it matters in that field.

              Now imagine that your surgeon was from a top medical school but later in life he developed some medical problem and developed somewhat shaky hands. Do you think he will remove himself his high salary and accustomed, accrued lifestyle because of the health problem he develops that will guarantee he will be a shit surgeon?

              The only thing close to a meritocracy in the US is pro sports. If a basketball player is better than another, he isn't forced to lose because he wasn't from a prestigious university.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice blogpost, retard. You literally couldn’t get more irrelevant to the subject of this post or board if you tried. Congrats on developing enough awareness to realize that true meritocracy literally cannot exist in the real world. Now if you’ve got some opinions on moving to NYC as a young professional, I’m sure we’d all love to hear them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are the social and literal retard. You tried to pretend getting good grades at a good CS grade means more than getting good grades at a good CS program.

                You:
                >Graduating with a high GPA at a CS program like Berkeley is a sign that someone has their shit together.

                There is a saying, "the proof is in pudding." The way the hiring process works because of the myths that the education industry puts out, to adapt that analogy it would be more like "the proof is in how good you are at studying a recipe and being good at a graded quiz on said recipe."

                Aptitude at something is demonstrated at being good at doing the given activity. But that is not how schooling, the modern hiring process of companies or the internal promotion of corporations works. There is various reasons for that, but one of the biggest is that a segmented, alienated society needs obedience and people to mostly only be motivated to learn if there is a monetary reward behind it to be one of the core values of society.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Where did I say that being a good programmer has to do with getting good grades in college? I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the kind of person I described in my last post-- I was too busy smoking weed and chasing skirts. Still am. The fact that you felt the need to write all that shit just because of this:
                >Graduating with a high GPA at a CS program like Berkeley is a sign that someone has their shit together.
                All it shows is that you have a chip on your shoulder. An inferiority complex. Just chill out. Not having top 10% grad opportunities doesn't mean you won't be successful in life later on.
                You can't deny that having the work ethic to do well at a CS program like Berkeley's is correlated with success as a programmer. Yeah, it isn't perfect, but what other signals are companies supposed to look for to find candidates with high potential?
                Are you even aware that companies like Google don't give a fuck how good a programmer you are when they hire junior people? What they're looking for is candidates they consider to have high potential. Having the balls to take hard classes at a hard CS program for four years when there's no need to is a good sign of that. It shows you have the discipline and the modicum of intelligence needed to be a good corporate goy, if nothing else.
                Could I have been one of them if I had worked harder in college? Maybe, but I guess we'll never know. I'll never be one of them, and I'll never be chad either. I'm somewhere in between, and that's fine with me. It took me until my second job to crack 6 figures, and that's ok. Making 6 figures in your mid-20's should be enough for anyone.
                Quit being such a moron. I'm natsoc and I don't feel threatened by these types of people. They're good taxpayers.

                Nice blogpost, retard. You literally couldn’t get more irrelevant to the subject of this post or board if you tried. Congrats on developing enough awareness to realize that true meritocracy literally cannot exist in the real world. Now if you’ve got some opinions on moving to NYC as a young professional, I’m sure we’d all love to hear them.

                I guess we're doing a yuppie thread now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You clearly buy into the myths of the education system. Probably a major at a very prestigious CS program at the very minimum isn't a total fuckup, who won't put in the least effort possible. But I am not so sure that is so true in the real world and if it is has been attempted to be independently verified. I listened to something or read some article by David P. Goldman that pointed that Chinese is very hard to master as a written language and that because of that China is somewhat more of a meritocracy than our society - studying very hard and mastering your language and being good at school can much more often raise Chinese out of poverty. I think that is part of the reason why East Asians like Chinese dominate in the fakery of the education system in the USA. They are much, much more willing than whites and other sungroups to put prodigious and tremendous effort into the game of getting good grades in the school system. I hope in the future an anti-Asian backlash leads to some introspection into the schooling system, but I am doubtful.

                >Are you even aware that companies like Google don't give a fuck how good a programmer you are when they hire junior people? What they're looking for is candidates they consider to have high potential.

                Yes, I understand the whole corporate subfield of human resources is almost totally useless and just buys into the myths that the university system sells out of pure laziness, especially when it comes to hiring and internal promotion. For one, human resources personnel can't evaluate technical skill even if they wanted to.

                Being good at something is best demonstrated by being good at what you are doing, that is what you don't understand. But our society isn't geared toward that. Even in the 1970's and early 1980's almost all programmers were people who received no formal education in programming and they simply were internally trained and mentored within their own company by other programmers to be programmers.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You clearly buy into the myths of the education system.
                No, I don't. I just have a more nuanced view of it than you. I don't have any illusions that American universities are a meritocracy. At the same time, you seem to have deluded yourself into believing that our society wants them to be.
                America's top universities are not meant to be technical schools. They are finishing schools for the nation's elite. They're there to indoctrinate the existing upper and upper-middle classes, to assimilate new blood (not necessarily nonwhite blood), and to discipline kids into at least paying lip service to our society's governing myths.
                They used to gather young men into auditoriums and show them educational films about the dangers of underage sex. Nowadays their methods are more sophisticated. They use social media to show kids that people who don't believe in neolib orthodoxy are losers who are beat into submission, and people who share right hashtags and so on are successful, honest people.
                >human resources personnel can't evaluate technical skill even if they wanted to.
                Most of the kids who are recruited by Google as junior software engineers won't be programming for the greater part of their careers anyway. They go to business school and become PMs to start climbing the corporate ladder. Some of them skip being SWEs entirely and go straight into product management after graduation.
                This is why FAANGs don't care how good a programmer you are when they're recruiting you as a new grad. The people you see still writing code into their 40's are losers who don't have the emotional intelligence or the social skills needed to become managers. You're a fool if you think they're the kinds of people we should have calling the shots. Our society selects for Steve Jobs types, not Wozniaks.
                This is what you're overlooking when you're spouting your peasant bullshit about "the real world" as if America's top universities are meant to be technical schools.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mechanical engineer
        So you live in a suburb?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's probably some alumni of Berkeley social club in New York.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have sex first, then come to NYC
    Women here have extremely degraded nostrils from the piss and shit but can still smell money and virginity from a mile away

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Women here have extremely degraded nostrils from the piss and shit
      It's mostly from the poorly cut cocaine

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >moving to NYC
    said no one ever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one in your meth-ridden Rust belt town, that is

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >early 20s
    >family moved to nyc 2 years ago
    >work remote but dont make enough to support myself
    >have no friends here
    >no office to make friends
    any recs on how to unincel thinking about fucking off to SEA where I actually can support myself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go do something outside your house that forces you to interact with people, like a cooking class or whatever. You have to *do* something, and if you can't do anything then go learn how to do something.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looking forward to your post about being fired and having to prostitute yourself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      software engineer level E3

      Anon

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/doordash-to-slash-over-1-200-jobs-to-scale-back-rising-costs

      Still got your job?

      yes

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    software engineer level E3

    Anon

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/doordash-to-slash-over-1-200-jobs-to-scale-back-rising-costs

    Still got your job?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >work from home 30-ish hours weekly
    lol its gonna be sixty at least

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Just graduated from Berkeley
    probably love Scott Weiner

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    new yorkers itt: could I get a nice place with a nest egg of ~2 millions and a salary of ~100k that will hopefully grow to ~150k to ~200k in the next years?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately not, check out Zillow and other sites. I assume that with that NW and salary, you enjoy a certain lifestyle and set of amenities, that you're not going to get at 2M in NY, which caters to VHNWIs+.

      With that NW, I wouldn't waste it in NY on a squalid 1BD or studio, but choose nearly any other city in the world (obvious exceptions like SF, HK).

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