You're both total pieces of shit and I hope you fucking choke dead. You put everyone's life in danger because you're too stupid and lazy to be bothered to do anything. You don't even know how cellphones work, you're that stupid, infinite technology at your fingertips, infinite information, and you sit there...dick in one hand, pornhub in the other consume consume consume. Bags of wasteful shit. Society should take you out back and shoot you both in the back of the head and dump your bodies for the birds to eat. Fertilizing the soil would be your first real social contribution.
I used to be terrified of flying as a kid and yelled at strangers to turn off their phones. Now i stream music and video until service dies at cloud layer and use google mapa to see where we are. gay.
Yeah that's not the reason dingus. It was a rule some countries came up with to avoid phone signlas congesting phone networks by hitting too many towers at once.
Yeah, it can drain your battery fast as it’s looking for a phone service. You don’t receive any signal up there. And if you do get signal, you might get a nasty surprise especially in a different country.
And in some countries, especially Asians, it’s more or less a strict requirement.
You're both total pieces of shit and I hope you fucking choke dead. You put everyone's life in danger because you're too stupid and lazy to be bothered to do anything. You don't even know how cellphones work, you're that stupid, infinite technology at your fingertips, infinite information, and you sit there...dick in one hand, pornhub in the other consume consume consume. Bags of wasteful shit. Society should take you out back and shoot you both in the back of the head and dump your bodies for the birds to eat. Fertilizing the soil would be your first real social contribution.
Thank you for explaining, but my question was more about: are there negative consequences for the crew of the plane if I don't put airplane mode on, if I don't get calls or texts and put roaming off?
Why is airplane mode necessary? Why do they care if I drain my battery?
Just to be clear, I always put airplane mode on because I have no reason to not do that, but I'd just like to know why I have to do it.
>you might get a nasty surprise especially in a different country. >And in some countries, especially Asians, it’s more or less a strict requirement.
Can you tell us more about this?
Airplane mode/turn off all devices is the blanket statement given because they can't realistically state every device nor name every random cellphone to chinese bootleg console some kid is using which COULD interfere.
Aside from that most times something is going to go wrong that has the biggest risk to passengers is generally on take off and landing here if an abort take off, failure, or tail strike occurs it's best to people not be glued to their screens unaware someone is telling them to brace.
It's simply easier to keep the rule in place and use laymens terms for all electronic devices like cellphones/laptops/ipads from a safety stand point than anything else. No there isn't a 100% issue with YOUR device that could be a brand new cell phone on take off, but maybe Joe Dirt who has a chinkpad with some whacky ass bullshit radio from Hong Chink co, may be doing fuck all else when communications need to be absolutely clear from plane to com tower and crew to passengers.
tl;dr It's just another way of telling people to pay attention to the plane taking off.
Microwave engineer here, and i'll give you the final answer.
If you're just one fucker doing it far from the cockpit then you have nothing to worry about. Most planes dating past the 90s (so pretty much all planes) have good EMC specs. the whole "don't use your phone" thing was far more problematic back in the 00s because there were still some shitty planes who didn't quite make the cut. The biggest issue we have regarding EMC is that it might fuck with the GPS as cellular frequencies are pretty close to em, but that issue is now solved. Still, if the2 first row of passengers started acting like complete retards and called at the same time, chances are the instruments might flicker a little.
>but maybe Joe Dirt who has a chinkpad with some whacky ass bullshit radio from Hong Chink co, may be doing fuck all else when communications
If Joe Dirt thas a chinkpad that is able to multiply microwave frequencies in order to switch from cellular to GPS and other vital frequencies, his real name is Abdullah Al Amirikiy, and his "chinkpad" is a sabotage device.
>Why do they care if I drain my battery?
"OH THIS AIRLINE SUCKS I COULD GET A CHARGE U MADE ME MISS MY FLIGHT BECAUSE MY INFO WAS ON MY PHONE OOOOOO"
You must not fly often because this is a non issue to anyone with a non room temp IQ, sorry when you actually grow up you may realize companies and such often overstate as a way to cover their ass for the unexpected.
You don't even have to do it anon, it's mostly a relic from a time when big ass cancer phones might have interfered with air traffic, and also we didn't understand telecommunications that well back then, so it was better to be safe.
Planes are still relatively well shielded against EM waves anyway, after all they get hit by lightning and radiation all the time
>are there negative consequences for the crew of the plane if I don't put airplane mode on, if I don't get calls or texts and put roaming off?
No.
>Why is airplane mode necessary? Why do they care if I drain my battery?
They don’t. It’s not their problem. It’s a recommendation and a relic from the past.
>Can you tell us more about this?
Nasty surprise is, if you ever get signal, you might pay more because you’re in another country.
And Asians require it because they are autistic and I am actually thankful because, especially chinks and pinoys wouldn’t even put down the phone if nobody scared them. You wouldn’t want to hear a Chinaman screaming on his phone and streaming his shit loudly at takeoff. In fact, in Chinese airlines, you cannot use any electronics at all, not even a video game console or a game boy during take-off and landing, cannot even listen to music with headphones. It’s more of a discipline thing.
I know this thread is bait but I always love it when people who obviously don't travel make a big fuss about something everyone already knows and moves on with.
>if having airplane mode off is really dangerous to the plane then why do they just trust some random assholes do it by themselves?
It’s not, really, in practice. But there has always been a concern that radio waves from personal devices have the potential to interfere with plane communications systems; radio waves of similar frequency are used by air traffic control safety systems, so cell phones can theoretically (and maybe sometimes do?) create false collision-risk alerts—sometimes automated systems can mistake the signal of a phone seeking a cell tower for an off-course aircraft nearby, or so I have read. They used to have warnings against playing with radio-controlled toys in-flight, years ago, before cellphones were widespread, for the same reason (I may be the only person here who remembers this). Risk is evidently more serious if you’re on a small plane like a private jet than on a big commercial airliner.
But as far as I know, no plane has ever crashed as a result of a phone.
No gas pump has ever been exploded by a phone, either, for what that’s worth. In both cases it’s mostly a CYA/just in case scenario.
Yeah that's not the reason dingus. It was a rule some countries came up with to avoid phone signlas congesting phone networks by hitting too many towers at once.
Would gladly let you take my window seat, my psoriasis is extended release so at worst you'll get a handful of skin flakes stuck to your cuffs and falling/moving their way down your back, inside your shirt, as I'm rather tall.
I'm a pilot, I'll tell you right now we're sitting up the front on our phones, Aircraft aren't affected by mobile phones, if they were you wouldn't be allowed to have your phone on the plane.
>get on plane >hear the "this flight is regulated by USA so wireless connections must be turned off during the entire duration of the flight" announcement >my fucking sides leave orbit >use data connection for the whole "critical" take off sequence >finally lose connection at high altitude >turn airplane mode on, enable wifi and bluetooth >start descent >turn airplane mode off as soon as phone may connect to any antenna >continue using data during the whole landing sequence >repeat on every flight
Far as I read a phone not being on airplane mode has never directly lead to a crash, but what happens is that when enough phones are in use on high altitudes it produces enough noise to cause static noise on some of the equipment that the pilots are using, annoying and potentially distracting them, but it won't fuck with the equipment in any direct way.
I often fall asleep right after I board and wake up in the middle of the flight so I often miss flight mode. No big deal.
You're both total pieces of shit and I hope you fucking choke dead. You put everyone's life in danger because you're too stupid and lazy to be bothered to do anything. You don't even know how cellphones work, you're that stupid, infinite technology at your fingertips, infinite information, and you sit there...dick in one hand, pornhub in the other consume consume consume. Bags of wasteful shit. Society should take you out back and shoot you both in the back of the head and dump your bodies for the birds to eat. Fertilizing the soil would be your first real social contribution.
I used to be terrified of flying as a kid and yelled at strangers to turn off their phones. Now i stream music and video until service dies at cloud layer and use google mapa to see where we are. gay.
Why would I ever want to do a single thing that might benefit you?
Eh, it's just that i won't turn it off, that's all.
Calm down buddy, we can watch porn together on my phone during the flight
You retards are completely missing the point of airplane mode. It's not like it will crash the plane you dumb moron
What's the point then?
Turns off functions that constantly search for cell towers and drain battery.
Yes, like bluetooth
Yeah that's not the reason dingus. It was a rule some countries came up with to avoid phone signlas congesting phone networks by hitting too many towers at once.
Is airplane mode necessary if nobody ever calls or texts you ever?
Yeah, it can drain your battery fast as it’s looking for a phone service. You don’t receive any signal up there. And if you do get signal, you might get a nasty surprise especially in a different country.
And in some countries, especially Asians, it’s more or less a strict requirement.
bait, do not fall for it.
Thank you for explaining, but my question was more about: are there negative consequences for the crew of the plane if I don't put airplane mode on, if I don't get calls or texts and put roaming off?
Why is airplane mode necessary? Why do they care if I drain my battery?
Just to be clear, I always put airplane mode on because I have no reason to not do that, but I'd just like to know why I have to do it.
>you might get a nasty surprise especially in a different country.
>And in some countries, especially Asians, it’s more or less a strict requirement.
Can you tell us more about this?
Airplane mode/turn off all devices is the blanket statement given because they can't realistically state every device nor name every random cellphone to chinese bootleg console some kid is using which COULD interfere.
Aside from that most times something is going to go wrong that has the biggest risk to passengers is generally on take off and landing here if an abort take off, failure, or tail strike occurs it's best to people not be glued to their screens unaware someone is telling them to brace.
It's simply easier to keep the rule in place and use laymens terms for all electronic devices like cellphones/laptops/ipads from a safety stand point than anything else. No there isn't a 100% issue with YOUR device that could be a brand new cell phone on take off, but maybe Joe Dirt who has a chinkpad with some whacky ass bullshit radio from Hong Chink co, may be doing fuck all else when communications need to be absolutely clear from plane to com tower and crew to passengers.
tl;dr It's just another way of telling people to pay attention to the plane taking off.
Microwave engineer here, and i'll give you the final answer.
If you're just one fucker doing it far from the cockpit then you have nothing to worry about. Most planes dating past the 90s (so pretty much all planes) have good EMC specs. the whole "don't use your phone" thing was far more problematic back in the 00s because there were still some shitty planes who didn't quite make the cut. The biggest issue we have regarding EMC is that it might fuck with the GPS as cellular frequencies are pretty close to em, but that issue is now solved. Still, if the2 first row of passengers started acting like complete retards and called at the same time, chances are the instruments might flicker a little.
>but maybe Joe Dirt who has a chinkpad with some whacky ass bullshit radio from Hong Chink co, may be doing fuck all else when communications
If Joe Dirt thas a chinkpad that is able to multiply microwave frequencies in order to switch from cellular to GPS and other vital frequencies, his real name is Abdullah Al Amirikiy, and his "chinkpad" is a sabotage device.
I'm supposed to believe a microwave with a diploma is posting on sighsee?
This Internet of Things bullshit is going too far.
Credentials obtained after eating microwave dinners for the past 5 years
you better believe it motherfucker, we're taking over humans now
>Why do they care if I drain my battery?
"OH THIS AIRLINE SUCKS I COULD GET A CHARGE U MADE ME MISS MY FLIGHT BECAUSE MY INFO WAS ON MY PHONE OOOOOO"
You must not fly often because this is a non issue to anyone with a non room temp IQ, sorry when you actually grow up you may realize companies and such often overstate as a way to cover their ass for the unexpected.
That's some serious mental gymnastics you're doing over here.
You don't even have to do it anon, it's mostly a relic from a time when big ass cancer phones might have interfered with air traffic, and also we didn't understand telecommunications that well back then, so it was better to be safe.
Planes are still relatively well shielded against EM waves anyway, after all they get hit by lightning and radiation all the time
>are there negative consequences for the crew of the plane if I don't put airplane mode on, if I don't get calls or texts and put roaming off?
No.
>Why is airplane mode necessary? Why do they care if I drain my battery?
They don’t. It’s not their problem. It’s a recommendation and a relic from the past.
>Can you tell us more about this?
Nasty surprise is, if you ever get signal, you might pay more because you’re in another country.
And Asians require it because they are autistic and I am actually thankful because, especially chinks and pinoys wouldn’t even put down the phone if nobody scared them. You wouldn’t want to hear a Chinaman screaming on his phone and streaming his shit loudly at takeoff. In fact, in Chinese airlines, you cannot use any electronics at all, not even a video game console or a game boy during take-off and landing, cannot even listen to music with headphones. It’s more of a discipline thing.
Airplane mode is a giant psyop
I know this thread is bait but I always love it when people who obviously don't travel make a big fuss about something everyone already knows and moves on with.
if having airplane mode off is really dangerous to the plane then why do they just trust some random assholes do it by themselves?
>if having airplane mode off is really dangerous to the plane then why do they just trust some random assholes do it by themselves?
It’s not, really, in practice. But there has always been a concern that radio waves from personal devices have the potential to interfere with plane communications systems; radio waves of similar frequency are used by air traffic control safety systems, so cell phones can theoretically (and maybe sometimes do?) create false collision-risk alerts—sometimes automated systems can mistake the signal of a phone seeking a cell tower for an off-course aircraft nearby, or so I have read. They used to have warnings against playing with radio-controlled toys in-flight, years ago, before cellphones were widespread, for the same reason (I may be the only person here who remembers this). Risk is evidently more serious if you’re on a small plane like a private jet than on a big commercial airliner.
But as far as I know, no plane has ever crashed as a result of a phone.
No gas pump has ever been exploded by a phone, either, for what that’s worth. In both cases it’s mostly a CYA/just in case scenario.
I haven't turned off my phone or internet once in 20 years of weekly flying for my job. Still alive.
What do you do that you fly somuch anon?
IT consultant in the data analytics area.
Buddy, if your job title has more than 1 word then it's not a real job
Consultant then
>some countries
IATA isn't just "some countries"
>IATA
It was the US who made it a rule first in 1994 for the reasons of interference, CFR 47.
You've never had a job. Stop talking out of your ass.
Incredibly based tempter of fateflyer.
Would gladly let you take my window seat, my psoriasis is extended release so at worst you'll get a handful of skin flakes stuck to your cuffs and falling/moving their way down your back, inside your shirt, as I'm rather tall.
6'3" here and also have psoriasis so do as you please, fren.
why don't the terrorists just take a radio transmitter up there if it is dangerous?
oh wait it's just boomer fuddlore.
Enjoy your appearance on Mayday
I'm a pilot, I'll tell you right now we're sitting up the front on our phones, Aircraft aren't affected by mobile phones, if they were you wouldn't be allowed to have your phone on the plane.
>get on plane
>hear the "this flight is regulated by USA so wireless connections must be turned off during the entire duration of the flight" announcement
>my fucking sides leave orbit
>use data connection for the whole "critical" take off sequence
>finally lose connection at high altitude
>turn airplane mode on, enable wifi and bluetooth
>start descent
>turn airplane mode off as soon as phone may connect to any antenna
>continue using data during the whole landing sequence
>repeat on every flight
>hehe i flipped a switch on my phone i am le chad
you're not even putting anyone in danger you underage retard
Far as I read a phone not being on airplane mode has never directly lead to a crash, but what happens is that when enough phones are in use on high altitudes it produces enough noise to cause static noise on some of the equipment that the pilots are using, annoying and potentially distracting them, but it won't fuck with the equipment in any direct way.