Spain and Portugal

Any recommendations for Spain and Portugal?
Will be there mid February for a few weeks, open to all suggestions so I make the most of it

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    feb starts getting mild temperature in most of the country you will be inbetween wanting to wear a jacket or a tshirt
    andalusia starts getting into shorts weather if you're warmblooded from norf

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am warmblooded from norf but live in global souf
      I'll be happy for some cold after this summer (aus)

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I found southern Spain to be really nice in January when I went. Sunny but not hot

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds perfect, although I would like to see the north also, even if it's colder

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    been to a handful of places in S&P
    im usually a boring boomer that isnt too into nightlife, keeps to myself if im solo, likes wandering around a city having a rough idea of sites or restaurants i'd like to go to but also just seeing what i come across.

    lisbon - liked it a lot. only things i didnt like central tourist areas had annyoing gypsies try to sell you fake drugs, its a very hilly city if you are aimlessly wandering (there is public transport tho and an elevator), also made hotel location more important than other cities would imo. to me it was cool that there were a lot of run down buildings scattered around but didnt feel like anywhere was dodgy. a cuisine i dont know beyond saltcod and eggtarts - liked what i had
    algarve typically the beach and golf region of portugal, some rugged undefined interior, atlantic coast has surfing. consider a car. there not many specific cultural attractions -im not aware of any grand monastary or famous museum, but there are some.. faro is the airport town here, ive stayed in praia da rocha, a popular beach town that. went on little road trip to sagres - felt like end of the known world, and some atlantic beaches praia da arrifana area - rough coastline with pockets of nice beaches, seemed good area for a short hike
    barcelona - went with a group of lads that had already seen the sites and just wanted to smoke weed and drink. so i didnt really do the tourism aspect my way apart from having a bus tour myself. the hills outside barca seem like somewhere i want to explore if i went back. the cannabis club was neat -gis shows most look like trendy bars, cant find the one i went to. i remember it felt like a comfy dive bar that was almost like friends basement - dim lights, tv projector with footy on, lots of games like chess,cards, probably foosball not sure about pool. i didnt enjoy the city overall tbh but there were factors working against me. annoying solicitors if youre on the famous street. illegals and junkies are around

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      madrid - also a massive city, dont feel like i got the lay of the land fully beyond the core of the main tourist attractions. and yet everywhere inbetween crowded but with local stuff. i liked it overall yet dont think i really scratched the surface of what would be most enjoyable. i suppose thats the same for everywhere would be hanging out with someone who has learned of places they liked from living there. royal palace, 2 famous art museums if you like that. one of my favorite city parks - the lake part collected all the traffic so the side paths were quite peaceful, in feb you could get a 13C sunny day have your own courtyard in a park

      toledo - only went on a day trip, very short from madrid. beautiful landscape/skyline. lots to explore. those expensive bus tours also included a tour guide inside the cathedral. interior of cathedral was one of the more impressive - if you like art i guess you'd go to a famous cathedral anyway, but they also have a mini art museum extension inside. i would be interested in the casual day hike in the perimeter of the city. the fortress is now a military museum, with some military personnel there - you can go to their cafe inside.

      mallorca/palma de mallorca - balearic islands well connected with flights. also ferry atleast from barcelna but you would fly. palma city was alright, handful of nice sites but not more than a weekend. i went offseason so it wasnt beach weather, still had many norf visitors for some sunshine. there is a drunk brit containment zone. throughtout the island there are some quiet villages and a small mountain range that can be nice to explore but perhaps not compared to all of iberian penninsula..

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        granada - thought it was very cool. famous for alhambra palace. nice hills behind the city to go walking. there are other spanish catholic sites that were impressive in their time, to solidify the Reconquista make some hallowed ground of catholic spanish monarchs. some old moorish neighborhoods to explore.

        cordoba- lots of narrow white old town streets. the cathedral is a repurposed grand mosque, there dozens of grand cathedrals in spain but this is one of the more notable ones. great exmaple of a roman bridge. didnt discover much outside of the old town. was neat but didnt see reason to spend too many days here.

        tarifa - southern tip of spain, notable for kite surfing. a handful of old buildings etc, sleepy town in winter. not a specific attraction for sightseeing but not a bad place to hangout.

        cadiz - ancient city. i really liked the old town, thougth the neigborhoods were comfy, nice city garden park, beachside fortress you can go. dont know how famous of a tourist attraction it is. didnt see outside of old town.

        gibrltar - nice novelty if you're in the neighborhood or have an obsession with passport stamps (you have to ask). a warm weather little england. we just kinda hungout when we went didnt do any tourist sites. public transit crossing the airport runway is neat.

        seville - one of the warmest cities in spain which is good or bad depending when you visit. large old town pocket, another cathedral. my favorite city park is connected to the plaza d espana. there is a grand musilm palace/fortress that always has a massive line to get in. other smaller sites with mudejar artwork. many nice old style tapas bars.
        nice to walk along the river here, no traffic, some bars along the way. one grassy spot along the river people crowd to all sunbath and drink and be loud.. meanwhile the massive city park has plenty of open space to do that.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          malaga - good transport hub for southern spain. nicer train station and airport. meh bus terminal - difficult to know whats going on when you're amongst the other hordes of immigrants that dont really understand spanish. kind of a strange city, a bit dumpy in outer parts, a bit trashy from the northern euro visitors. but overall i like it - a handful of sites nice for a weekend trip. roman theatre, fortress on centralized hilltop, grand cathedral (incomplete exterior, finances were diverted to american revolution), long public beach - sand isnt the best but still its a med sized city with a beach. nearby mountains you could hike.
          wasted potential city park - few homeless guys sleeping but worse there is an invasive monk parakeet bird that is loud and annoying you'd have to drink yourself to passing out to rough sleep here

          all of spain and portugal seem to have quite popular health food cafes now, maybe thats normal for an aussie but i was coming from uk - few and far between so was a nice gimmick.

          obviously everywhere big enough will have these but neat going to malls or department stores in another country. Seville had a cool one near torre seville. el corte ingles is a nice department chain i went in lisbon and malaga
          when wandering a city, a nice department store usually has clean bathrooms on every floor.

          learning a bit of facts about spain+portugal made the sightseeing a bit more enjoyable imo
          history what eras of civilization were around or any famous events. celts-romans-visigoth-muslim conquest- reconquista - colonial empire - napoleon - failing empires - civil war - dictators. or the 7/7 madrid attack
          arts: know some painters like goya el greco picasso, some art styles like azulejos or mudejar. fado music. what music is popular now in the country? nice knowing famous film scenes
          sports - see bullfighting? obviously footy, big clubs also have museums. even seeing a stadium is neat. fun to go to less famous sports - eg eurobasket

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      madrid - also a massive city, dont feel like i got the lay of the land fully beyond the core of the main tourist attractions. and yet everywhere inbetween crowded but with local stuff. i liked it overall yet dont think i really scratched the surface of what would be most enjoyable. i suppose thats the same for everywhere would be hanging out with someone who has learned of places they liked from living there. royal palace, 2 famous art museums if you like that. one of my favorite city parks - the lake part collected all the traffic so the side paths were quite peaceful, in feb you could get a 13C sunny day have your own courtyard in a park

      toledo - only went on a day trip, very short from madrid. beautiful landscape/skyline. lots to explore. those expensive bus tours also included a tour guide inside the cathedral. interior of cathedral was one of the more impressive - if you like art i guess you'd go to a famous cathedral anyway, but they also have a mini art museum extension inside. i would be interested in the casual day hike in the perimeter of the city. the fortress is now a military museum, with some military personnel there - you can go to their cafe inside.

      mallorca/palma de mallorca - balearic islands well connected with flights. also ferry atleast from barcelna but you would fly. palma city was alright, handful of nice sites but not more than a weekend. i went offseason so it wasnt beach weather, still had many norf visitors for some sunshine. there is a drunk brit containment zone. throughtout the island there are some quiet villages and a small mountain range that can be nice to explore but perhaps not compared to all of iberian penninsula..

      https://i.imgur.com/uJNLwkx.jpg

      granada - thought it was very cool. famous for alhambra palace. nice hills behind the city to go walking. there are other spanish catholic sites that were impressive in their time, to solidify the Reconquista make some hallowed ground of catholic spanish monarchs. some old moorish neighborhoods to explore.

      cordoba- lots of narrow white old town streets. the cathedral is a repurposed grand mosque, there dozens of grand cathedrals in spain but this is one of the more notable ones. great exmaple of a roman bridge. didnt discover much outside of the old town. was neat but didnt see reason to spend too many days here.

      tarifa - southern tip of spain, notable for kite surfing. a handful of old buildings etc, sleepy town in winter. not a specific attraction for sightseeing but not a bad place to hangout.

      cadiz - ancient city. i really liked the old town, thougth the neigborhoods were comfy, nice city garden park, beachside fortress you can go. dont know how famous of a tourist attraction it is. didnt see outside of old town.

      gibrltar - nice novelty if you're in the neighborhood or have an obsession with passport stamps (you have to ask). a warm weather little england. we just kinda hungout when we went didnt do any tourist sites. public transit crossing the airport runway is neat.

      seville - one of the warmest cities in spain which is good or bad depending when you visit. large old town pocket, another cathedral. my favorite city park is connected to the plaza d espana. there is a grand musilm palace/fortress that always has a massive line to get in. other smaller sites with mudejar artwork. many nice old style tapas bars.
      nice to walk along the river here, no traffic, some bars along the way. one grassy spot along the river people crowd to all sunbath and drink and be loud.. meanwhile the massive city park has plenty of open space to do that.

      https://i.imgur.com/8zW5E5u.jpg

      malaga - good transport hub for southern spain. nicer train station and airport. meh bus terminal - difficult to know whats going on when you're amongst the other hordes of immigrants that dont really understand spanish. kind of a strange city, a bit dumpy in outer parts, a bit trashy from the northern euro visitors. but overall i like it - a handful of sites nice for a weekend trip. roman theatre, fortress on centralized hilltop, grand cathedral (incomplete exterior, finances were diverted to american revolution), long public beach - sand isnt the best but still its a med sized city with a beach. nearby mountains you could hike.
      wasted potential city park - few homeless guys sleeping but worse there is an invasive monk parakeet bird that is loud and annoying you'd have to drink yourself to passing out to rough sleep here

      all of spain and portugal seem to have quite popular health food cafes now, maybe thats normal for an aussie but i was coming from uk - few and far between so was a nice gimmick.

      obviously everywhere big enough will have these but neat going to malls or department stores in another country. Seville had a cool one near torre seville. el corte ingles is a nice department chain i went in lisbon and malaga
      when wandering a city, a nice department store usually has clean bathrooms on every floor.

      learning a bit of facts about spain+portugal made the sightseeing a bit more enjoyable imo
      history what eras of civilization were around or any famous events. celts-romans-visigoth-muslim conquest- reconquista - colonial empire - napoleon - failing empires - civil war - dictators. or the 7/7 madrid attack
      arts: know some painters like goya el greco picasso, some art styles like azulejos or mudejar. fado music. what music is popular now in the country? nice knowing famous film scenes
      sports - see bullfighting? obviously footy, big clubs also have museums. even seeing a stadium is neat. fun to go to less famous sports - eg eurobasket

      All very helpful and interesting, much appreciated anon

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked Girona. It had really good food and some rad bars. It was a chill small city an hour from Barcelona. I really want to go back and do the bike ride down to the sea.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Girona
      keep an eye out on the footy table, they may not be able to hold out but currently on an unprecedented run.
      it will be almost Leicester FC tier potential, and if you were visiting spain worth trying for a game

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do want to see some European football while I'm there. I was thinking the obvious big ones like Barca/Real but might make a pitstop to Girona after hearing this

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just a heads up, all spaniards are bastards, and they weren't joking when they said they were lazy pieces of shit. Hope you're not going for anything business related, specially government paperwork.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not, purely travel

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Spaniard detected

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Évora, in central Portugal, is probably my favorite Portuguese city; it’s got a very beautiful, very old historic center that includes sites like Vasco da Gama’s old mansion and a royal palace. Also a cute little Roman ruin in a park in the middle of town. This park, like most Portuguese parks, had a “quiosque” that was newsstand, tobacconist, espresso counter, and full bar all in one. I’m not really a drinker anymore, but Portugal is definitely a good place to be if you are—it’s among the drunkest countries in Europe, in a low-key way. Little old ladies taking a half-bottle of pink wine at breakfast sort of place.

    I also really enjoyed Coimbra, a lively little university city. Maybe most famous for keeping a colony of bats in its medieval library to eat paper-eating bugs. Very nice old-school coffeeshop right by the cathedral. Lots of young people and local football fans—the Coimbra team, Académica, won a match when we were there and there was much rejoicing in the streets.

    I also love Lisbon, like poster above. It’s rather scuzzy in many spots, but atmospheric and beautiful. I never had anybody bugging me to buy fake drugs (and they are inevitably fake), but friends have complained about it. I’m pretty old and square looking, must not look the type. Not far from Lisbon, I found the seaside suburb of Cascais quite charming. Unlike most guidebooks, I really didn’t like Sintra at all—there’s a collection of gaudy but not very old royal palaces, and some hills with views, but nobody local actually lives in the town anymore—it’s nothing but a hollowed-out tourist attraction.

    And the Algarve is sort of hit or miss. A lot of gross British-themed pub crawl strips, but also some pretty coasts. The little town of Tavira actually has some historical and architectural character, and not much in the way of lads’ holidaymakers, but I wouldn’t reroute a trip just to go down there. Not beach weather anyway.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very interesting, thank you. Cascais looks like it could be worth a day trip or even an overnight

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cascais looks like it could be worth a day trip or even an overnight
        I actually spent three nights there, one of which was shaved off a planned two-night stay in Sintra. But this was in the summer, when there’s a lot more going on there. I don’t know if it’s still open, but I was surprised to find a really good Thai restaurant, which was welcome after a couple of weeks of OK but monotonous Portuguese cooking. There’s also an enjoyable old-school Euro-casino next door in Estoril if you’d like to win some Chinese tourists’ money.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Coimbra, a lively little university city. Maybe most famous for keeping a colony of bats in its medieval library
      it just keeps getting more and more harry potter

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8zW5E5u.jpg

      malaga - good transport hub for southern spain. nicer train station and airport. meh bus terminal - difficult to know whats going on when you're amongst the other hordes of immigrants that dont really understand spanish. kind of a strange city, a bit dumpy in outer parts, a bit trashy from the northern euro visitors. but overall i like it - a handful of sites nice for a weekend trip. roman theatre, fortress on centralized hilltop, grand cathedral (incomplete exterior, finances were diverted to american revolution), long public beach - sand isnt the best but still its a med sized city with a beach. nearby mountains you could hike.
      wasted potential city park - few homeless guys sleeping but worse there is an invasive monk parakeet bird that is loud and annoying you'd have to drink yourself to passing out to rough sleep here

      all of spain and portugal seem to have quite popular health food cafes now, maybe thats normal for an aussie but i was coming from uk - few and far between so was a nice gimmick.

      obviously everywhere big enough will have these but neat going to malls or department stores in another country. Seville had a cool one near torre seville. el corte ingles is a nice department chain i went in lisbon and malaga
      when wandering a city, a nice department store usually has clean bathrooms on every floor.

      learning a bit of facts about spain+portugal made the sightseeing a bit more enjoyable imo
      history what eras of civilization were around or any famous events. celts-romans-visigoth-muslim conquest- reconquista - colonial empire - napoleon - failing empires - civil war - dictators. or the 7/7 madrid attack
      arts: know some painters like goya el greco picasso, some art styles like azulejos or mudejar. fado music. what music is popular now in the country? nice knowing famous film scenes
      sports - see bullfighting? obviously footy, big clubs also have museums. even seeing a stadium is neat. fun to go to less famous sports - eg eurobasket

      https://i.imgur.com/uJNLwkx.jpg

      granada - thought it was very cool. famous for alhambra palace. nice hills behind the city to go walking. there are other spanish catholic sites that were impressive in their time, to solidify the Reconquista make some hallowed ground of catholic spanish monarchs. some old moorish neighborhoods to explore.

      cordoba- lots of narrow white old town streets. the cathedral is a repurposed grand mosque, there dozens of grand cathedrals in spain but this is one of the more notable ones. great exmaple of a roman bridge. didnt discover much outside of the old town. was neat but didnt see reason to spend too many days here.

      tarifa - southern tip of spain, notable for kite surfing. a handful of old buildings etc, sleepy town in winter. not a specific attraction for sightseeing but not a bad place to hangout.

      cadiz - ancient city. i really liked the old town, thougth the neigborhoods were comfy, nice city garden park, beachside fortress you can go. dont know how famous of a tourist attraction it is. didnt see outside of old town.

      gibrltar - nice novelty if you're in the neighborhood or have an obsession with passport stamps (you have to ask). a warm weather little england. we just kinda hungout when we went didnt do any tourist sites. public transit crossing the airport runway is neat.

      seville - one of the warmest cities in spain which is good or bad depending when you visit. large old town pocket, another cathedral. my favorite city park is connected to the plaza d espana. there is a grand musilm palace/fortress that always has a massive line to get in. other smaller sites with mudejar artwork. many nice old style tapas bars.
      nice to walk along the river here, no traffic, some bars along the way. one grassy spot along the river people crowd to all sunbath and drink and be loud.. meanwhile the massive city park has plenty of open space to do that.

      madrid - also a massive city, dont feel like i got the lay of the land fully beyond the core of the main tourist attractions. and yet everywhere inbetween crowded but with local stuff. i liked it overall yet dont think i really scratched the surface of what would be most enjoyable. i suppose thats the same for everywhere would be hanging out with someone who has learned of places they liked from living there. royal palace, 2 famous art museums if you like that. one of my favorite city parks - the lake part collected all the traffic so the side paths were quite peaceful, in feb you could get a 13C sunny day have your own courtyard in a park

      toledo - only went on a day trip, very short from madrid. beautiful landscape/skyline. lots to explore. those expensive bus tours also included a tour guide inside the cathedral. interior of cathedral was one of the more impressive - if you like art i guess you'd go to a famous cathedral anyway, but they also have a mini art museum extension inside. i would be interested in the casual day hike in the perimeter of the city. the fortress is now a military museum, with some military personnel there - you can go to their cafe inside.

      mallorca/palma de mallorca - balearic islands well connected with flights. also ferry atleast from barcelna but you would fly. palma city was alright, handful of nice sites but not more than a weekend. i went offseason so it wasnt beach weather, still had many norf visitors for some sunshine. there is a drunk brit containment zone. throughtout the island there are some quiet villages and a small mountain range that can be nice to explore but perhaps not compared to all of iberian penninsula..

      checked also i see you know a lot about Spain.
      Can you tell me more about Torrevieja and Valencia?
      These cities in particular: Murcia, Elche, Alicante , Valencia, Granada. Any interesting things to see there?

      Generally we can go to Torrevieja in may next year. I heard this city in particular is bit of brit-infested shithole ( but i read it on old forums, idk how it is now). But we would have a car rented and drive for example to Valencia, about it i know there are some great museums at least. I do like things like these - museum, some sort of ancient cities or shit, pretty places to see and ust chill, i like nightlife too if available.
      Would you recommend Terravieja, and around it? What would be best places to see there and around it?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not that anon but I'll give some info on Alicante and Valencia.

        Alicante: I didn't find this city touristy at all. Head up to the castle (I managed it hungover as sin so it's not that difficult) and then work your way down through the white and blue houses of Barrio de Santa Cruz. Obviously walk along the beach and the waterfront but avoid restaurants along here. The best restaurants IMO are La Tasca Del Barrio and
        La Taverna del Racó del Pla (I advise booking). A really cool tapas place is Tapa-Caña (D'Tablas). Waiters walk around with a random selection of fresh tapas on little wooden blocks, you grab whichever you fancy then they total up the cost based on the number of blocks you have (cheap beer here too). Other great places are Cervecería Sento Rambla (the one on Calle Girona is the best) and Pinetell Tapas.

        Valencia: take the bus to Playa de las Arenas, rent bikes and work your way through the Jardí del Túria all the way to the Ocean museum. Drink agua de Valencia at Cafè Sant Jaume and Cafe de las Horas, try chorizo in cider (and a bottle of cider) at
        El Molinón. My favourite restaurant is Escalons de la Llotja

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          thank! Seems this is most boring part of spain unfortunetely (eastern south), barely anything interesting to see, from art and history perspective

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm visiting the Costa Blanca area around Christmas. What's some good stuff to do besides the drinking and stuff? I was thinking about renting a scooter and driving to interesting places. Is Spain a good country to do that?

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I booked a trip to Málaga just yesterday so this was a nice thread to come across.

    I'll be there for 6 days during the Christmas week, staying near the historic city center, any advice or suggestions? Also, are any of the nearby cities worth a day trip? I'd be traveling by bus most likely.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Been to Malaga a couple of times in winter and I think it's quite underrated. The main street leading up from the Parque de Malaga has some awesome decorations which will be nice to stroll down.

      Here are my favourite bars/restaurants (some may be closed over Christmas though):

      Casa Aranda - good churros and hot chocolate
      La Farola de Orellana - try the artichokes
      Taberna Cofrade Las Merchanas - super local with lots of religious iconography
      Mesón Astur - Asturian restaurant, get chorizo in cider as well as a bottle of cider. The way the waiters pour it is awesome
      Bodeguita El Gallo - small tapas bar
      El Pimpi - quite touristy but worth a drink
      Taberna El Carpintero - small bar, nice tapas
      Cortijo de Pepe - great traditional restaurant

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thank you very much. I'm interested in trying out Spanish Christmas food for dinner since I'll be there for both Christmas Eve and Day. I read that you should make a reservation for December 24-25th since all the restaurants might be fully booked during the holidays.

        Are any of those restaurants you listed a good choice for a Christmas dinner? Would they serve a solo traveler?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cortijo de Pepe is the only sit down restaurant so it may have a Christmas dinner. Not 100% sure what the restaurant situation is over Xmas as they’re extremely religious. Mesón Mariano is another great restaurant to try.

          I’ve travelled a few times in Spain solo and haven’t made reservations for one person. It wouldn’t hurt if you’re really wanting to try somewhere.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go Sevilla!

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    planning to visit spain and/or canary islands in dec-mar

    - where do I find cheap stays? booking.com starts at 18€ w/o breakfast, which is stupid high since no heating/AC needed
    - what nearby countries (warm, cheap) are worthwhile to check out via a connecting flight?
    - are there ferries to Africa from the canaries?

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone has a suggestion of a good city to spend a month in March in? A month is really the only way to get a reasonable rate on anMadrid is the most central but the weather could be better. I'm also considering Valencia and Seville.
    I'll be working remotely during the weekdays, so will mostly sightsee on the weekends. Otherwise i'll be trying to meet friendly people.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Speaking of Spain, how are the Canary Islands? Cursory research tells me it looks pretty good all in all.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting geography. The smaller towns and villages are nice but the amazing year-round weather has meant many resorts are British enclaves. Plus loads of nogs have invaded recently.

      Mainland Spain is so much better

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I went with partners so can’t comment on the cooming…

    On the face of it big cities in Spain are full of pros and the actual, non-paid girls seem pretty easygoing and loose (practice some Spanish and you’ll do well). Dating one however is notoriously horrid.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    catalonia is top tier
    everything else i don't know, i only live in catalonia and we fricking hate Black folk.
    i hate cities, go to towns and enjoy our mountains,
    i live near tossa de mar, if you want to eat fish like a king and go to a nice beach go there.
    andorra is fricking incredible, went there for camping and apart from andorra la vella (again, i hate cities) it's like living in a painting.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fond memories of Bigues i Riells with some relaxing walks in the mountains

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stop giving bad advice, Catalonia is the third-worst region of Spain (after Murcia and Extremadura). If you're only going to visit one part of the country you should either go to Andalucía or Castille Y Leon.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never been to Spain but my relatives went. They're currently here visiting NZ and they keep bringing up how shocked they were at how all the scammers and thieves in Spain so it must have made an impression on them. But they had fun, and in comparison NZ seems like a backwater village to them.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shocked they were at how all the scammers and thieves in Spain
      been around much of spain, didnt really notice many outside of barcelona.
      yea i saw like 1 instance in madrid and spain, but thats normal in europe.
      italy is annoying for this
      but then again just get out of the tourist core

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is one week enough or should I go two weeks? I'll be visiting the Costa Blanca area during Christmas.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl-f Porto
    >Phrase not found

    Is it really that bad bros? I'll be there towards the end of the year

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      looks nice, just not been
      last few years it was often in articles like the best european city youve not yet traveled to

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a beautiful place, good for 3 or 4 days. Lovely riverside, tons of gorgeous churches and monasteries, nice historical center. For the coomers, there was a great swingers club where you can go as a single guy and get your dick sucked through the gloryhole. Portuguese lads where great sports and left me their place at the gloryhole after they had come.

      Also, for the troony lovers, portugal is full of gorgeous brazillian trannies.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Name of the swingers club?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      porto is cool but it smells of piss

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shitty weather during that period

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love Porto but it's not for everyone. It's a bit dirty and rough around the edges, like Sicily and mainland Greece. People are generally very friendly though, and the food is great.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Northern Spain is very comfy, awesome landscapes too.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am thinking about
    Seville --- 3 days
    Cordoba --- 3 days
    Valencia ---- 3 days
    Doable?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you plan to do for 3 days in Cordoba? If you want to stay in Cordoba itself, it might be too much. If you make a daytrip to Granada, then yes.

      If you want to go to Alhambra, book your ticket now! They run out months ahead of time.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was in granada last year. Are 3 days too much? there is a lot to see, and in granada it was 43C last year and I needed to take shelter at my hotel before passing out of heat.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    People in Andalusia are mean af

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Barcelona is overrated. Great architecture and history but too many tourists and the locals are all sick of tourists. I much prefer Madrid and Valencia

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Braga is great, very relaxed vibes and sightseeing, and the villages north of it are great too (Ponte de Barca, Ponte de Lima, Arcos de Valdevez). Driving around the mountains in NW Portugal is just a great time in general.
    Porto is cool for the food and music scene, but the homeless people are a nuisance (they are free to just walk into restaurants and establishments with no consequence; you'll be eating dinner in a decent restaurant and they'll just walk up to your table and start begging and nobody cares), they're everywhere and they piss and shit all over the place; the biggest concentration of them is in in the Ribiera/Bolhao are or along the Douro.
    Coimbra is nice, very calm unless one of their football teams wins a match, and the parties are fun when they do. Lots of cool little gastropubs and the local wine there is great. Figueira da Foz is a short ride away and a fun little coastal area.
    Aveiro is neat, but I didn't spend enough time there to say anything definitive about it.
    Algarve is typical resort fare, but it's filled with stereotypical boomer British tourists, so if you don't get on with them you'll be miserable.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not OP here but I have a question for all of you.
    My Spanish is already pretty good but I'm going to spend some time in Barcelona in a few months and I wonder if I should focus on improving my Spanish as much as possible before I go there.
    There are a few things to consider
    >Do I need to speak to anyone?
    >Is English good enough?
    >Will the Catalan-speaking majority refuse or be unable to speak Spanish with a foreigner who doesn't speak it like a native?
    I don't know much about Barcelona and I would be interested to hear the opinions of anyone who has spent time there

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Do I need to speak to anyone?
      Well I don't know what do you mean by that. You can live your life without saying a word to anyone and somehow live.

      >Is English good enough?
      Not really. It depends on what do you want to do, but don't expect much english of spaniards, unless they are really well educated. Anyway you will be fine but don't expect everybody to speak english, and much less advanced english.

      >Will the Catalan-speaking majority refuse or be unable to speak Spanish with a foreigner who doesn't speak it like a native?
      They will speak finely, but there might be some misunderstandings. Nevertheless it depends on your charisma I suppose. Overall speaking with Spaniards is very hard compared to speaking with Latinos. I find their fast paced speaking very intimidating.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Overall speaking with Spaniards is very hard compared to speaking with Latinos. I find their fast paced speaking very intimidating.
        Luckily I have only been learning the average central Spain way, listening to a lot of TV dubbed/made for a Spanish audience and Twitch streamers from Spain.

        >>Will the Catalan-speaking majority refuse or be unable to speak Spanish with a foreigner who doesn't speak it like a native?
        They're all able to speak it, though for political/cultural reasons they sometimes refuse. They tend to give you a free pass if you're a non-native spanish speaker though. But the political-cultural landscape has heated up again due to recent political events (too complex to go into now) so there might be more resistance to use spanish.

        >But the political-cultural landscape has heated up again due to recent political events (too complex to go into now) so there might be more resistance to use spanish.
        Yeah I know, this is kinda what I'm worried about. I don't want to ask someone a question in Spanish and get smacked in the face lol

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          nah, you won't get smacked in the face, it's not that bad. Worst case scenario they'll just reply in catalan and act all uppity and snobish.

          How is the cooming scene in Benidorm?

          https://gemidos.tv/espana-comunidad-valenciana-benidorm
          There used to be a big russian community in Valencia and surrounding area, comming on cute Ivankas was the best. Not sure what it's like these days.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>Will the Catalan-speaking majority refuse or be unable to speak Spanish with a foreigner who doesn't speak it like a native?
      They're all able to speak it, though for political/cultural reasons they sometimes refuse. They tend to give you a free pass if you're a non-native spanish speaker though. But the political-cultural landscape has heated up again due to recent political events (too complex to go into now) so there might be more resistance to use spanish.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Will the Catalan-speaking majority refuse or be unable to speak Spanish with a foreigner who doesn't speak it like a native?
      I speak pretty good (tested at C1 years ago) but obviously not native or perfect Spanish, and basically no Catalan at all, although I picked up some bits and pieces. Nobody ever had a problem speaking Spanish with me. All but a tiny handful of people (older, posh/aristocratic Catalans, surprisingly enough, who historically were bilingual in Catalan and French rather than Catalan and Spanish) are functionally bilingual in Spanish, and not offended by speaking it when necessary. They would usually rather speak Spanish than English, for sure.

      English works in many tourist attractions, but the standard of spoken English anywhere in Spain (or Catalunya) is quite low. There will be places where it doesn’t work.

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What’s Madeira like? I’m heading there in a few days for Christmas. It’s reputed to be quiet and pretty chill; I’m staying in Funchal.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was there during summer, that time it was majestic. It had billion flowers and everything was green. I don't know how does it look in december.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is the cooming scene in Benidorm?

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should I do a rail/bus trip from Paris to Madrid or do a lap around Spain going from Madrid -> Zaragoza -> Barcelona -> Valencia -> Madrid. I’ll be making stops along the way. Going in early March, 8 days.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Zaragoza
      I haven't been, but I hear it's a pretty little city, but not worth more than a day. Valencia and Barcelona, on the other hand, are gorgeous themselves and have plenty of day-trip-worthy places nearby, so I'd favor them instead.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's plenty to see in Lisbon; beautiful sights and monuments. However, if you come to the capital, try to avoid most restaurants (unless you like to spend much). Also beware of pickpocketers and wandering drug-sellers.
    picrel is me rn passing through the arch

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      every other dude was trying to sell me fake weed around in front of the arch, by the waterfront.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      every other dude was trying to sell me fake weed around in front of the arch, by the waterfront.

      Same here. Baixa seemed like a giant shithole in general but that square (can't remember the name) was by far and away the worst.

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    is there any way to legally take advantage of the abandoned properties in Spain?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best place for prostitution? I'm a Northern-Europe-cel interested in sex tourism but too lazy to go all the way to Thailand so I'm thinking of going to Spain instead. Although if Portugal is better for that purpose, I'm okay with that too.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Best place for prostitution?
      Spain and portugal are good, yeah, but do your research. What do you want? Spain is full of venezuelan and colombian prostitutes. Portugal, for example, is the best for brazilian trannies (the best in the world, imo). If you want russian/ukrainian girls, I'd say Poland or Czechia. France will have a bigger percentage of african girls. Do some research, see what you like.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I want to stick to Southern-Europe for the better weather conditions. Greece and Italy seem a bit more dangerous/poorer compared to Iberia. I have also been in Spain before as a kid so I know a bit more about what to expect there.
        I'm not interested in trannies nor black girls (unless you meant North African girls, which I am interested in). I'd prefer a city where I can get around somewhat using English. I have read some articles stating that laws on prostitution have become stricter in Spain but they were kind of vague, do you know anything about that?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          > I have read some articles stating that laws on prostitution have become stricter in Spain but they were kind of vague, do you know anything about that?
          Now their ads list a bunch of nice wholesome activities you can do together instead of what they do in the bedroom

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So it's not illegal then. How about bringing escorts into your hotel room? Is the staff okay with that?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Please respond

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah, you won't get smacked in the face, it's not that bad. Worst case scenario they'll just reply in catalan and act all uppity and snobish.

      [...]
      https://gemidos.tv/espana-comunidad-valenciana-benidorm
      There used to be a big russian community in Valencia and surrounding area, comming on cute Ivankas was the best. Not sure what it's like these days.

      >https://gemidos.tv/espana-comunidad-valenciana-benidorm
      >masajes sensuales y mucha fiesta blanca
      >Fiesta Blanca
      Is this what i think it is? Second time i am reading it in colombian escort advert - they give coke during visit or what? Or does it mean something is fishy? Open for chemsex? Would never read something like that in local adverts, locals here are very careful if not stuckup

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Blanca
        it's exactly what you think it is. Coke and sex. Googling gives you a bunch of articles about it. I assume you pay extra for the coke, but I also assume you'd get the shittiest quality. If you're into that, I would say it's safer to bring your own. Stay safe out there, bros.

        Also, they have a special name for Valencia and a few other party towns in that area, can't remember, something like "El Bacalao", just refers to the big drug scene in that area.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it fully legal and regulated in Germany just The Netherlands? In that the women are licensed and have to get tested once a month for STDs? Why not just go there instead of Spain? I mean I know Spain is cheaper but it can't be that much cheaper, right?

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    For portugal:
    Lisbon - quite enjoyable, particularly for nightlife. For some reason it punches above its weight in terms of having tasteful/niche nightlife venues (check out A Capela if you like edm). On the other hand, the art/history museum scene is totally lacking, although I’ll give an honorable mention to Calouste Gulbenkian museum. Don’t believe what others say about food prices, plenty of €15 meal options, just use google maps and filter. Unfortunately suffers from the iberian curse of restaurants only being open in set hours so you’ll need to time meals with the local schedule unless you want to eat only indian/asian cuisine. Also has some of the best solo traveler hostels I’ve seen.

    Porto - most people I talk to like it much more than lisbon, but I found it both forgettable and largely more expensive. Even less museums or cultural attractions than lisbon.

    Coimbra - I’ll just mention that it’s a commuter college town, with all students leaving on Friday and returning Sunday (causing terrible traffic on these days). This means that the city has an inverted lifestyle with other towns in that parties occur during the weeks and the town is pretty much dead on the weekend.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      For Spain:
      Barcelona - shockingly beautiful, I put the old town on par with the best that Florence has to offer and the gardens by the greek theater and surrounding area are magnificent. This city really has everything - nightlife, cultural attractions, great city planning, beach... Downsides are cost, pickpockets, and a subtle standoffishness from the catalonians.

      Madrid - only city in iberia that feels like a proper big city, with the density and cosmopolitan vibe that you’d expect. Despite the diversity I’d say that over half the restaurants are still Spanish fare and all levels of jobs are performed by locals (as opposed to the various imported underclasses you’ll find in other euro capitals). You’ll see a lot of wealthy latin Americans vacationing here and there’s a solid cultural interchange with latin America in food/music/fashion. The city itself isn’t particularly beautiful outside of building facades comparable to other major cities, but it’s remarkably clean and has the must see museo prado.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      For Spain:
      Barcelona - shockingly beautiful, I put the old town on par with the best that Florence has to offer and the gardens by the greek theater and surrounding area are magnificent. This city really has everything - nightlife, cultural attractions, great city planning, beach... Downsides are cost, pickpockets, and a subtle standoffishness from the catalonians.

      Madrid - only city in iberia that feels like a proper big city, with the density and cosmopolitan vibe that you’d expect. Despite the diversity I’d say that over half the restaurants are still Spanish fare and all levels of jobs are performed by locals (as opposed to the various imported underclasses you’ll find in other euro capitals). You’ll see a lot of wealthy latin Americans vacationing here and there’s a solid cultural interchange with latin America in food/music/fashion. The city itself isn’t particularly beautiful outside of building facades comparable to other major cities, but it’s remarkably clean and has the must see museo prado.

      op here, thanks anon. Very good information. I'll be travelling alone so the part about Lisbon is reassuring

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I met a Portuguese babe (affectionately dubbed the portubabe) on soc and she broke my heart (she is now appropriately dubbed the portuhoe). Would a Portuguese woman call the cops if some dude from SighSee showed up at their apartment or are they p chill in that regard?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are unironically worse than the coomers

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Portuguese women are known to be one of the most difficult women in the world, as in, uptight, feminist and closed minded. You might find some prostitutes as exceptions in the night scen but that's it.

      Most married portuguese men I know have married a brazilian or ukranian instead. It's a meme there to avoid portuguese women like the plague.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        This one had a strong sense of nationalism and good singing voice. She left me heartbroken and I will her with a child

        you are unironically worse than the coomers

        Perhaps but that is irrelevant

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    dont come

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going to Northern Spain next July with some single friends from the US. We're all in our early 30s going to the Bilbao music festival July 11-13

    Anyone have any recommendations night-life wise?

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just graduated and want to celebrate it by booking a trip to spain for next week. Plan is to be there for a week or two but don't really know how to decide where to exactly go. Two or three cities is probably good amount.

    What im looking for is sun (doesnt need to be that warm), good food and to just relax and maybe to get to know new people.

    I don't care about barcelona, but i have thought about madrid, sevilla and valencia. So maybe just decide for me?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't care about barcelona
      That's unfortunate, because Barcelona does have sun and good food.

      >Madrid
      I actually went there last January. It was sunny, but it was VERY cold. Barcelona was around 14-16°C at the time, and Madrid was 2°C.

      Since you don't want to go to Barcelona, and Madrid is cold, let's meet in the middle and say Valencia. It's still warmer than Madrid, and it's the birthplace of paella.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only city there that I have visited is barcelona so want to try something different, also want to practice my spanish a bit so catalonia might not be the best place then.

        Valencia does seem like a nice place, any tips to where to stay and do? And any daytrips around that are worth it?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sevilla, Granada, Malaga

  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I also asked question here but maybe this thread is good too for that quesiton

    [...]

    Should i buy Alicante ticket for 100$ in one direction or should i wait? I want to fly end of May.
    Specifically - 100$ for Alicante but with connecting flight - and it takes 10 hours of entire flight. Its Suiss airline. Would it be possible cheaper flights with Ryanair will show up? It could be even bit more expensive but without connecting flight?

  35. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    for how many days is it worth to visit Torrevieja and near areas? 5 days or 10 days?
    Are there even some cool interesting mountain areas, any interesting natural things to see other than salt lakes?

  36. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What cities have the least muggings?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only city in Spain with any real crime is Barcelona, but it's mostly just pickpocketing and theft. The murder rate is really low in Spain, about 10 times lower than the US.

      Madrid has about the same population as Los Angeles. Madrid averages like 30 murders and year and LA averages about 400.

      The murder rate in St Louis is actually 100 times higher than in Madrid, which is fricking insane, but true. 69/100,000 vs 0.6/100,000

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How about physical altercations? The homeless in LA are pretty fighty. You might not get murdered but a lot of them bite and have diseases.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The homeless in europe are actually extremely passive. They typically just get into a supplicatory position in some busy street but otherwise make no noise or try to interact with people. You will have arab/african immigrants come up to sell you trinkets/trash but they’re not aggressive. Your main danger will come from drunk british tourists, watch put for them.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barcelona is the least safe city in Spain but still much better than Paris, Berlin or London for example. It used to be mostly gypsy pickpockets that were a nuisance but over the past years there's been an influx of Moroccans and Algerians who aside from pickpocketing and phone-snatching also commit violent muggings. Just avoid dimly lit streets in barrio gótico and Raval at night and you should be fine though.

  37. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Madrid-Toledo,to Santander,Bilbao-San Sebadtian,visit Andalusia-Sevilla,Granafa,Ronda,Marbella

    Which of these are coolest? Also thinking about visiting Valencia, but my apartment is in Torrevieja. Can you recommend some good cheap hostel in those cities to spend a night or soething? Not sure how to approch visiting these cities if they are all so far away?

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it possible and feasible for a disabled vet to retire there,l and buy a house in the middle of nowhere?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I read somewhere it's illegal to do that

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have 4 days to spend from Sevilla to Madrid. Should I spend the whole 4 days in Madrid, or 2 days in Cordoba and 2 days in Madrid?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      1 day in Cordoba is enough to see all the sights, it's a very small city.

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the sardine factories

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