Texas is a wild, truly wild place. Some will look like something out of an old American Spaghetti Western film with dusty, ghost towns. Then there are huge cities where it would not feel different from New York City or the likes of Tokyo, Japan. Visit Central Texas where you are about 2.5 hours away ground traveling to three major cities: Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Land in Austin and start there to get a feel. Dallas is all about business and money, Houston about a rising port-city in the process of gentrification including its own issues, San Antonio is your traditional Texas with much influence from Mexico and it's culture. If you are new to the USA, Texas is where you would expect to experience the real USA feel
Here's a native Texan's view of our cities:
Dallas - Drugstore cowboys, arrogant, concrete jungle, looks down on everyone, big business, SMU, Cowboys, unofficial capitol of Texas.
>looks down on everyone
I don't know where this perception comes from. People in Dallas have that Midwestern friendliness.
Just don't start talking shit about Dallas or saying that your coastal city is so much better. Then we'll tell you to fuck off from wherever you're from
Agreed, there is nothing worth while here if you're a tourist / visitor. The museum district is maybe worth it and there is a nice park nearby, but beyond that there are no natural attractions and you missed rodeo season which is a fucking joke trap experience anyway. The food scene is horrible unless you just love Vietnamese shit or half ass tex/mex or some wannabe LA hole in the wall spot that local influencers flock to. The rest of the city is like 40 miles across of strip malls & chains connected by congested freeways and run down suburbs excluding River Oaks, Rice Village, (maybe Galleria/Uptown) and parts of Katy. There is nothing to do in The Woodlands and it's too far away to even bother with. Do not go downtown. Do not go to EaDo. Do not waste your time in fucking Midtown. Do not go anywhere east in the loop. It's all trash. It's literally the least pedestrian friendly city in America, the most diverse and fat city - oh and it's fucking filthy here unless you remain in the white flight zones way out west. The remaining areas are defacto no-go zones. I haven't been "in the loop" in like 6+ months and don't miss anything about it. In fact, I can't wait to move out of this dump entirely. It is nothing like the "texas" you've seen in the movies or shows... it's everything stereotypically negative about the USA personified.
Native Houstonian here that got tf out. Everything you said is true. I live in the piney woods now. Best decision I made. It's close enough to use the airport, see a concert, but other than that, I stay out.
I'll agree that it's not Texas but this city literally has some of the best and widest variety of foods in the southwest, so you obviously are wrong there.
apart from that, everything you said is right. This 'city' sucks ass, I suffer having to drive into east end everyday for work.
Then again Dallas isn't any better, it's cleaner but everyone there is a fucking prick on their high horse. I hate that shithole more than Houston. Honestly, most of Texas sucks, since small towns are dead and it has become the new California 'land of opportunity'
Native Houstonian - this guy nailed it on everything BUT the food.
I’ve been around the world - Houston has top tier restaurants. Aside from that if you don’t care for space (NASA) or baseball (Astros) you should skip the city.
It’s comfy to live in the burbs here, but the city is unremarkable and not very aesthetic.
If you do come down here avoid South Side and most of East Downtown.
Stay in the museum district and midtown/the heights.
Texas is a wild, truly wild place. Some will look like something out of an old American Spaghetti Western film with dusty, ghost towns. Then there are huge cities where it would not feel different from New York City or the likes of Tokyo, Japan. Visit Central Texas where you are about 2.5 hours away ground traveling to three major cities: Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Land in Austin and start there to get a feel. Dallas is all about business and money, Houston about a rising port-city in the process of gentrification including its own issues, San Antonio is your traditional Texas with much influence from Mexico and it's culture. If you are new to the USA, Texas is where you would expect to experience the real USA feel
>who's endless sprawl is more soulless
Everything worth seeing in DFW is either in the urban core of Dallas proper (Downtown to Northwest Highway) or in the urban core of Fort Worth (Downtown/Cultural District/Stockyards).
The only people in "Dallas" arguing for their sprawl are pod-dwellers in the awful suburbs like Plano or Frisco, because deep down they know their lifestyle is monotonous consumerism
Dallas is more soul-less, Houston is more "le charm". Idk why Dallas-tards cope and say they are "real" Texas. "Real" Texas is anything in the triangle. I feel any Texans will agree, if you're out of the triangle, then it aint really Texas
>I've been to west Texas and can confirm it's not real Texas
So what is it? Oklahoma? New Mexico? (Seemed like too few Indians.) Mexico? (But they speak such bad Spanish.)
Seems like the state has an identity crisis if the overwhelming majority of the place by area isn’t representative.
If you are an immigrant and you just got your green card, would you move to texas which city? , Or choose a completely different state ?
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Avoid the big cities, all the yuppies from LA moved there when they crashed the economy over in CA and now they're bringing it here, visit some small towns in the middle of nowhere or visit some border towns for some good mexican food, other than that, explore as you please.
Galveston island isnt bad. Has some unique gulf coast victorian architecture and mansions, small amusement park on a pier, a waterpark, moody gardens. The beach itself is kindof gross and murky. I think theres tons of homeless people and probably better to avoid during spring break when Houstonians flood it.
San Antonio has some cool stuff like the Alamo, Sea World, Six Flags, and riverwalk area, otherwise kindof a typical growing big city with a Mexican vibe.
Austin is a mess, I avoid it entirely. Hill country is nice though in areas. Floating the river and Octoberfest stuff is worth looking into. Schlitterbahn in New Braunfels is cool if youre into waterparks.
Fort Worth would be nicer to visit than Dallas for touristy Texan stuff.
Palo Duro Canyon south of Amarillo is a nice place to hike, bike, or horseback ride some trails, not as crowded as something like Grand Canyon would be since I assume its less well known. If you go to Amarillo avoid the Big Texan. Id recommend the smaller hole in the wall type places for BBQ. Crazy Larrys has a great brisket frito pie.
So I gonna visit Dallas/Texas for a two weeks in a month.
1. Where should I stay on a budget?
2. How can I best live on a budget/get around and see and experience the land
3. What are some does and don'ts for Europeans?
>1.
Can't answer this tbh but AirBnB isn't too bad. >2.
You'll need a car to get anywhere, public transit is pitiful. You'd want a car anyways because there's nothing you could do in Dallas that could fill two weeks. Austin is 3 hours south of it, San Antonio 5, etc. Gas is relatively cheap for now ($3/gallon) so driving costs won't be too bad.
Get groceries at H-E-B if you're near one, otherwise Kroger. They're the cheapest non-Walmart supermarkets. Consult Reddit for places to eat (now's your chance to try real Mexican food.)
3.
Don't intentionally aggravate people while you're driving. Everyone here has guns and there is a decent chance you'll get shot if you escalate shit.
In general people here are welcoming, so if you're outgoing you'll have no problem meeting people. Expect them to be almost stereotypically fascinated with your background though.
Texas in particular is not pedestrian-friendly, so take care when you're crossing the street. There are an insane number of trucks here that look like they're designed to kill pedestrians, and the hicks driving them are never paying enough attention.
It gets hot during the summer but we have ACs everywhere, so indoors won't be a problem. Just drink a lot of water when you're out and you'll be fine.
Yeah Id consider getting an Uber for driving around town since they know where theyre going and the traffic is horrible. Rent a car if youre going out further to explore. Texas is a huge state and things are pretty spread out, so it will take forever to drive to some areas obviously.
Just be respectful as you would traveling anywhere else. Most Americans have never left the country, so theyll probably ask you tons of annoying questions, but you should be fine. Theres tons of transplants in big cities like Dallas, so you may meet people from all over.
I feel like if you're going to visit Texas you need to rent a car. Not just because of public transportation sucking but there really isn't enough to do in cities here for multiple days, let alone weeks.
Maybe fly into Dallas, stay for a few nights, then rent a car and drive south while checking out the touristy small/smaller towns to get the real texan experience. You can experience a lot of diversity in the land with the plains of dallas, and forests of east texas not too far, try to stay off the interstates like I-45 and stick to the state highways that take you through the towns.
In general, avoid Motel 8's or similar style roadside inn's that offer weekly rates unless you're not too picky. That's where bottom of the barrel type people stay, so you're likely to have bad experiences.
Drunk Texan here. Visit the German towns and try the cuisine - New Braunfels and Fredericksburg are the obvious ones. Visit the tourist trap Mexican restaurants in San Antonio. Visit DFW to appreciate its cityscapes. Check out the stockyards while you're at it just cause. Visit Houston for the diversity and to admire the fat assed Latinas but be forewarned that it turns into the walking dead after nightfall. Visit Van Alstyne for a glimpse of what we as a society have lost architecturally. Explore small towns in hill country. Visit Beaumont for a taste of that sweet gulf coast depression vibe.
You have to spend a very long time in Austin to properly appreciate it, and it gets harder with each passing year to really fathom the dying soul of the city. Many go their entire lives deprived of knowing Austin. Visit any seedy bar in South Austin and just chat with people. The further south, the better. It's the closest a passerbyer will ever get to secondhand exposure to the lore.
Oh and traffic in Houston is a fucking circus, driving it while keeping up with the flow of traffic (see: 15-30 mph over the limit) is like a video game. I love it.
what hours? the airport is out of the way of everything so it's not like you can checkout stuff easily. plus the airport has been underconstruction forever and it takes about 45min to get into arrivals during peak hours.
it takes about 45min to get into downtown from the airport, nearby the airport in Humble there's nothing interesting. Humble City Cafe is probably the best food in town if you want some southern cooking. I live close to the airport so ama
Go to Austin, hit the music scene but avoid downtown. From there head into the Hill Country for wilderness and comfy rural towns. Recommend around the LBJ ranch
Houston is a joke. The world’s largest highway moves about 200K cars a day, while the average city in Italy can move 800K on a train. Dallas traffic is bad too but nearly as awful as Houston
They're all worth visiting except for Houston. Even if you somehow found yourself in El Paso or McAllen, it's better than Houston.
I do my best to avoid that hellhole.
Here's a native Texan's view of our cities:
Dallas - Drugstore cowboys, arrogant, concrete jungle, looks down on everyone, big business, SMU, Cowboys, unofficial capitol of Texas.
Houston - Oil & gas, endless traffic, mexicans, humid, old South, Cajun/Creoles, Space, blue-collar, Rice grungy, Astrodome.
Austin - No longer Texas, commiefornia transplants, technology firms, UT, nice landscape, liberals, antifa, Alex Jones, based State Capitol building
San Antonio - Real Texas, riverwalk, Alamo, lots of mexicans, good food, a surprisingly hidden gem of Texas culture
El Paso - Mexico, desert, Fort Bliss and SW
Fort Worth - Real Texas, cattle, actual cowboys, old time SW frontier feel
Midland/Odessa - Oil and gas
Corpus Christi - Old school tejano-Texas, Battleship, nice downtown
Tyler - Deep South, roses, rolling hills
Lufkin/Nacogdoches/Texarkana/Beaumont - Typical East Texas Deep South culture and pinetrees
Panhandle - Nothing but cotton fields and Texas Tech
>looks down on everyone
I don't know where this perception comes from. People in Dallas have that Midwestern friendliness.
Just don't start talking shit about Dallas or saying that your coastal city is so much better. Then we'll tell you to fuck off from wherever you're from
What about Amarillo?
Except the BIG TEXAN Steak house challenge, there is nothing there to do
Agreed, there is nothing worth while here if you're a tourist / visitor. The museum district is maybe worth it and there is a nice park nearby, but beyond that there are no natural attractions and you missed rodeo season which is a fucking joke trap experience anyway. The food scene is horrible unless you just love Vietnamese shit or half ass tex/mex or some wannabe LA hole in the wall spot that local influencers flock to. The rest of the city is like 40 miles across of strip malls & chains connected by congested freeways and run down suburbs excluding River Oaks, Rice Village, (maybe Galleria/Uptown) and parts of Katy. There is nothing to do in The Woodlands and it's too far away to even bother with. Do not go downtown. Do not go to EaDo. Do not waste your time in fucking Midtown. Do not go anywhere east in the loop. It's all trash. It's literally the least pedestrian friendly city in America, the most diverse and fat city - oh and it's fucking filthy here unless you remain in the white flight zones way out west. The remaining areas are defacto no-go zones. I haven't been "in the loop" in like 6+ months and don't miss anything about it. In fact, I can't wait to move out of this dump entirely. It is nothing like the "texas" you've seen in the movies or shows... it's everything stereotypically negative about the USA personified.
Native Houstonian here that got tf out. Everything you said is true. I live in the piney woods now. Best decision I made. It's close enough to use the airport, see a concert, but other than that, I stay out.
I'll agree that it's not Texas but this city literally has some of the best and widest variety of foods in the southwest, so you obviously are wrong there.
apart from that, everything you said is right. This 'city' sucks ass, I suffer having to drive into east end everyday for work.
Then again Dallas isn't any better, it's cleaner but everyone there is a fucking prick on their high horse. I hate that shithole more than Houston. Honestly, most of Texas sucks, since small towns are dead and it has become the new California 'land of opportunity'
Native Houstonian - this guy nailed it on everything BUT the food.
I’ve been around the world - Houston has top tier restaurants. Aside from that if you don’t care for space (NASA) or baseball (Astros) you should skip the city.
It’s comfy to live in the burbs here, but the city is unremarkable and not very aesthetic.
If you do come down here avoid South Side and most of East Downtown.
Stay in the museum district and midtown/the heights.
Same here, houston food is top tier compared to many other states
Some of the best Chinese food in the US
Houston > Dallas for tourism, easily
Mentally ill. Enjoy your ghetto before it gets ravaged by a hurricane ig
My dad spent some time in Houston in the early 80s
Texas is a wild, truly wild place. Some will look like something out of an old American Spaghetti Western film with dusty, ghost towns. Then there are huge cities where it would not feel different from New York City or the likes of Tokyo, Japan. Visit Central Texas where you are about 2.5 hours away ground traveling to three major cities: Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Land in Austin and start there to get a feel. Dallas is all about business and money, Houston about a rising port-city in the process of gentrification including its own issues, San Antonio is your traditional Texas with much influence from Mexico and it's culture. If you are new to the USA, Texas is where you would expect to experience the real USA feel
Marfa is a nice artsy town if you're planning on hitting Big Bend.
Every Texas thread turns into Houston and Dallas fags arguing over who's endless sprawl is more soulless
Everyone knows Houston sucks more.
>who's endless sprawl is more soulless
Everything worth seeing in DFW is either in the urban core of Dallas proper (Downtown to Northwest Highway) or in the urban core of Fort Worth (Downtown/Cultural District/Stockyards).
The only people in "Dallas" arguing for their sprawl are pod-dwellers in the awful suburbs like Plano or Frisco, because deep down they know their lifestyle is monotonous consumerism
Even the best food thread turned into Texasfags arguing about which one of their cities has the best food in the country
Dallas is more soul-less, Houston is more "le charm". Idk why Dallas-tards cope and say they are "real" Texas. "Real" Texas is anything in the triangle. I feel any Texans will agree, if you're out of the triangle, then it aint really Texas
I've been to west Texas and can confirm it's not real Texas
>I've been to west Texas and can confirm it's not real Texas
So what is it? Oklahoma? New Mexico? (Seemed like too few Indians.) Mexico? (But they speak such bad Spanish.)
Seems like the state has an identity crisis if the overwhelming majority of the place by area isn’t representative.
>Seems like the state has an identity crisis
Yes
any amount of spanish is bad
seething houstonians cant accept that for all its faults dallas (and denton and fort worth) is still better
Ya and the delusion of singling out san antonio as having "lots of mexicans" is a kek and a half too.
the real answer is that Dallas is a better place to live and Houston is more fun to visit
What does Houston have for fun that Dallas doesn't
Dallas still has a theme park so it wins by default.
DFW chads we eating good ITT
If you are an immigrant and you just got your green card, would you move to texas which city? , Or choose a completely different state ?
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Austin would be the friendliest but expensive
Just go to Amarillo. Impossible to suffer.
>go to Texas
>get shot
Avoid the big cities, all the yuppies from LA moved there when they crashed the economy over in CA and now they're bringing it here, visit some small towns in the middle of nowhere or visit some border towns for some good mexican food, other than that, explore as you please.
>crashed the economy over in CA
They just had a record tax surplus because the companies there grew so much. It's been called the Biden Effect
Really surprised you haven't been banned yet
Garland chads rise up. Grand Prairie kings, too. The real best places in Texas. Doesn’t get more pleasant than Mount Pleasant
Galveston island isnt bad. Has some unique gulf coast victorian architecture and mansions, small amusement park on a pier, a waterpark, moody gardens. The beach itself is kindof gross and murky. I think theres tons of homeless people and probably better to avoid during spring break when Houstonians flood it.
San Antonio has some cool stuff like the Alamo, Sea World, Six Flags, and riverwalk area, otherwise kindof a typical growing big city with a Mexican vibe.
Austin is a mess, I avoid it entirely. Hill country is nice though in areas. Floating the river and Octoberfest stuff is worth looking into. Schlitterbahn in New Braunfels is cool if youre into waterparks.
Fort Worth would be nicer to visit than Dallas for touristy Texan stuff.
Palo Duro Canyon south of Amarillo is a nice place to hike, bike, or horseback ride some trails, not as crowded as something like Grand Canyon would be since I assume its less well known. If you go to Amarillo avoid the Big Texan. Id recommend the smaller hole in the wall type places for BBQ. Crazy Larrys has a great brisket frito pie.
Is Texas really so boring you need to mention shit like 6 flags and water parks? Souless consumers on this board
So I gonna visit Dallas/Texas for a two weeks in a month.
1. Where should I stay on a budget?
2. How can I best live on a budget/get around and see and experience the land
3. What are some does and don'ts for Europeans?
Greatly appreciated guys!
>1.
Can't answer this tbh but AirBnB isn't too bad.
>2.
You'll need a car to get anywhere, public transit is pitiful. You'd want a car anyways because there's nothing you could do in Dallas that could fill two weeks. Austin is 3 hours south of it, San Antonio 5, etc. Gas is relatively cheap for now ($3/gallon) so driving costs won't be too bad.
Get groceries at H-E-B if you're near one, otherwise Kroger. They're the cheapest non-Walmart supermarkets. Consult Reddit for places to eat (now's your chance to try real Mexican food.)
3.
Don't intentionally aggravate people while you're driving. Everyone here has guns and there is a decent chance you'll get shot if you escalate shit.
In general people here are welcoming, so if you're outgoing you'll have no problem meeting people. Expect them to be almost stereotypically fascinated with your background though.
Texas in particular is not pedestrian-friendly, so take care when you're crossing the street. There are an insane number of trucks here that look like they're designed to kill pedestrians, and the hicks driving them are never paying enough attention.
It gets hot during the summer but we have ACs everywhere, so indoors won't be a problem. Just drink a lot of water when you're out and you'll be fine.
Yeah Id consider getting an Uber for driving around town since they know where theyre going and the traffic is horrible. Rent a car if youre going out further to explore. Texas is a huge state and things are pretty spread out, so it will take forever to drive to some areas obviously.
Just be respectful as you would traveling anywhere else. Most Americans have never left the country, so theyll probably ask you tons of annoying questions, but you should be fine. Theres tons of transplants in big cities like Dallas, so you may meet people from all over.
I feel like if you're going to visit Texas you need to rent a car. Not just because of public transportation sucking but there really isn't enough to do in cities here for multiple days, let alone weeks.
Maybe fly into Dallas, stay for a few nights, then rent a car and drive south while checking out the touristy small/smaller towns to get the real texan experience. You can experience a lot of diversity in the land with the plains of dallas, and forests of east texas not too far, try to stay off the interstates like I-45 and stick to the state highways that take you through the towns.
In general, avoid Motel 8's or similar style roadside inn's that offer weekly rates unless you're not too picky. That's where bottom of the barrel type people stay, so you're likely to have bad experiences.
Paris, Texas, made it look kino. But that was in 1984
All I know is from watching lots of bbc cuck porn, that Dallas Texas is like 2nd place behind Orlando for bbc cuckolding.
Drunk Texan here. Visit the German towns and try the cuisine - New Braunfels and Fredericksburg are the obvious ones. Visit the tourist trap Mexican restaurants in San Antonio. Visit DFW to appreciate its cityscapes. Check out the stockyards while you're at it just cause. Visit Houston for the diversity and to admire the fat assed Latinas but be forewarned that it turns into the walking dead after nightfall. Visit Van Alstyne for a glimpse of what we as a society have lost architecturally. Explore small towns in hill country. Visit Beaumont for a taste of that sweet gulf coast depression vibe.
You have to spend a very long time in Austin to properly appreciate it, and it gets harder with each passing year to really fathom the dying soul of the city. Many go their entire lives deprived of knowing Austin. Visit any seedy bar in South Austin and just chat with people. The further south, the better. It's the closest a passerbyer will ever get to secondhand exposure to the lore.
Oh and traffic in Houston is a fucking circus, driving it while keeping up with the flow of traffic (see: 15-30 mph over the limit) is like a video game. I love it.
I have a 6 hour transit at the Houston airport tomorrow.
Anything interesting to do there?
what hours? the airport is out of the way of everything so it's not like you can checkout stuff easily. plus the airport has been underconstruction forever and it takes about 45min to get into arrivals during peak hours.
it takes about 45min to get into downtown from the airport, nearby the airport in Humble there's nothing interesting. Humble City Cafe is probably the best food in town if you want some southern cooking. I live close to the airport so ama
Go to Austin, hit the music scene but avoid downtown. From there head into the Hill Country for wilderness and comfy rural towns. Recommend around the LBJ ranch
Houston is a joke. The world’s largest highway moves about 200K cars a day, while the average city in Italy can move 800K on a train. Dallas traffic is bad too but nearly as awful as Houston
Both are souless sprawl shut the fuck up
Dallas is a shit hole, avoid it at all costs
That cat is too powerful