travel is a fools paradise

was Emerson right?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, he’s right, DON’T travel to run away from your problems because you take your problems with you wherever you go,
    Sort out your problems so you can enjoy traveling later.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah fuck that. I want to wallow in my own self inflicted misery with nice backdrops and to fuck/drink the pain away until it comes back 10 times stronger

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like he should have gone on a fuckfest in SEA rather than go to Italy and look at some gay statues lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao you aint wrong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sex hadn't been invented yet at that time

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You got me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Sounds like he should have gone on a fuckfest in SEA rather than go to Italy and look at some gay statues lmao
      He was a closeted homo who wrote erotic poems about a male classmate when he was at Harvard. He was guaranteed to be unhappy wherever he was.
      >Yeah I wouldn't want to travel either if I only had stanky unwashed pre-industrial pussy to look forward to after a two week boat trip
      The Southeast and East Asians were like goddesses to Europeans back then because they bathed regularly, naturally didn't sweat very much, and Asians believed the younger the girl, the better for your health. Euro sailors who chanced across Pacific islands and SEA would desert ships so they wouldn't have to go home. They would have done the same in China and Japan if those governments would let them.
      You can bet that many Euro merchants, seamen, and explorers who visited Asia in the 1800s were spending the rest of their lives thinking back about the girls they enjoyed while they were there. Even if those girls were poor peasants and prostitutes, they were still ten times better than the stinking, sweating, unwashed European women.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Second quote was for

        Yeah I wouldn't want to travel either if I only had stanky unwashed pre-industrial pussy to look forward to after a two week boat trip

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Even if those girls were poor peasants and prostitutes, they were still ten times better than the stinking, sweating, unwashed European women

        but that's exactly like today though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >back then
        Implying this doesn't apply to the current year as much if not more so. White women have only gotten worse with time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, but for real. I did that, discovered that I really like sea-girls, and married one later down the line. Today my life is pretty nice and we travel together, I enjoy showing her things she never thought she'd get to see.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao you aint wrong

      This, but for real. I did that, discovered that I really like sea-girls, and married one later down the line. Today my life is pretty nice and we travel together, I enjoy showing her things she never thought she'd get to see.

      coomers have lower IQ and impulse control than morons
      >is that a…THIRD WORLD FEMALE GIRL? I MUST COOM

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just can't relate to coomers being an actual boomer. Coming of age in the 70s and 80s it just wasn't a thing sure there were a few gays and you guys like to get laid, there was one fat guy in school but everyone liked good food, people would maybe casually collect stamps or salt shakers or travel but now it's like their identity. It's like they aren't human the media has convinced them they must coom 24/7, they must fly to every country and eat at tourist restaurants to have a personality, they must visit every country for exactly 3 days, they must buy every funkopop. These coomers thats all they think about they are no different than a 400 pound guy, a drug addict living on the Streets of LA or a gay obsessed with getting AIDS from a ladybug in Thailand. Broken and soulless. Not human

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a boomer too. It sounds like you have low test and were never interested in sex to begin with. Times change but humans don't, you crusty old fart. You're as bad as zoomer shut-ins with your "broken and soulless" rant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You were a coomer in the 70s? I don't believe you they were extreme fringe back then if you were a boomer you would know that

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Welcome to the Internet, where people with similar interests can find each other and talk about them. You seem to think people interacting online and enthusiastically talking about their interests means it is the only interesting thing in their lives. It's like thinking someone who is in a book club must be a librarian and never go outside.
              News for you, anon - men have always been interested in sex, and men have always had sex when they travel. As a low test guy who was not interested in it very much, you did not go looking for other men to talk about this with. Now you are on the Internet and stumbling across conversations about interests that are alien to you, and you think humanity has gone into a tailspin.
              No, people do not just think about sex, food, or whatever funkopop is. They are secondary and tertiary interests in their lives that they enjoy partaking in and talking about with others who do the same. Not interested? Ignore it and move on. Don't make everything about yourself and stop complaining about things you don't like.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's all just cope from a broken person, you aren't even human at this point if all you can do is think about coom and your next fix

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you aren't even human at this point if all you can do is think about coom and your next fix
                Nice reading comprehension, aspie.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm another boomer and he's actually right. Coomers just had a different name back then. Even the women who are my age never stopped fucking the same type of people : uni professors going on a conference trip, airline pilots, every fucking english teacher, even the holier than thou ones (that weren't shackled with a local back then mind you), everyone had and wanted a piece of the pie. The only real difference is that you couldn't really say you were going to SEA for the pussy, because it was still nonce heaven. But a lot of people actively went to Asia to fuck, and that has never changed.
                As for the non-travelling folks pretty much everyone had a gf at some point. The only difference is that the nerds from back then had no issue dating women that looked like them and the women that looked like them just couldn't approach the jocks.
                The internet changed everything because it made everyone approach one another. The jocks realize the homely looking nerds would rather be fucked by them than have a sustained relationship with a neckbeard metalhead with hygiene problems. Coomers always existed, they're just more numerous because people don't fuck as much anymore. That's late-stage capitalism for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong coomers are a new phenomena, very few people used whores and they certainly didn't brag about it or devote their whole life to flying around the world for it same as people bragging about being fat or gay or straight guys saying the wanna suck cock. Also believing we are in late stage capitalism is retarded. The west isn't capitalism its zio fascism. That's the surest sign you are a zoomer jumping on the go to Asia meme

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Joos are why I want to have sex with beautiful willing Asian women

                My god... My whole life is a lie

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yikes, it must suck to be this anon. What a mental train wreck.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ive been very happy when travelling
    perhaps it was 2weeks at sea that made him tired of the hole thing

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I wouldn't want to travel either if I only had stanky unwashed pre-industrial pussy to look forward to after a two week boat trip

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    well, he was a cynical intellectual. i kind of agree with him, though as for me, im an old fag, maybe traveled too much, it all became the same old shit in the end.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Travel is travel. You enjoy the places you travel to because they are a respite from your life. Moving somewhere isn't the same thing as traveling somewhere.
    Travel isn't really about place, it's about mind. If you travel and still feel miserable you have genuine problems that travel was never going to fix.
    It's like eating a meal and still being malnourished - you have tape worms.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I travel because the things I want to do aren't in my country. It's nothing about escapism or living in a fantasy, these just literally do not exist here. It's the same as going to the supermarket or something, just more expensive.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did he go to Naples when he wanted to see the Vatican? What an idiot.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    31 year old here, been on the road more or less for the past 8 years and i disagree with this sentiment.

    the road gives you new perspective and new opportunities to grow. you can stagnate and at other times regress, but there are always opportunities to keep moving forward. If i would've never started trauvelling anything short of 10 years of therapy wouldn't have fixed where i was mentally (and i highly doubt that would've worked.) i would've most likely have continued to be a barely functional alcoholic.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Travel won't work if you're trying to get away from yourself.

    But it WILL work if you're trying to get away from other things or people, or if you're trying to get to something you can't get at home but can find abroad.

    It won't necessarily allow you to escape your depression. But it will allow you to escape aggressively hostile overweight 40 y.o. bitches and get to 20 y.o. brown skinned cuties.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Travel won't work if you're trying to get away from yourself.

      Maybe travelling won't work, but moving certainly can. If by "yourself" you mean the identity you've built in your country all this time, your habits, the routine you've set yourself in. Going some place else allows you to start anew, possibly speak a new language, and basically become a new person.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Travel's fun but yeah life has to be good at home or the post-travel depression fucks you up bad. Gained 60lbs after a 6 month SEA trip. Really makes you realize what a depressing shithole Canada is in contrast.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Recently disillusioned and out of the military. Now i'm disillusioned and in Gettysburg

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Emerson was kind of a meme and you should read Thoreau instead.

    It's easy to say all that stuff when you live in Massachusetts though, very beautiful state

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Massivetwoshitts
      >beautiful
      Thanks for that laugh

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thoreau wasn't half the writer Emerson was tbqh familia

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thoreau was too busy being sighseepilled

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thoreau Was a man child that leeched off Emerson.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love Emerson but this is sadfag cope. Uncharacteristically unromantic of him.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      literal word salad

      this

      I travel for the thrill to discover something new not to be intoxicated.

      this and to just enjoy other parts of the world

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >literal word salad
        "Word salad" is the expression that illiterates use when they look at words and can't figure out how to turn them into thoughts.

        > Wowee, uh, mister, did you just say a GIANT is following you around? You mean like, uh, like a real big guy? A person of size? Like, a thing that physically exists, just like my frontal lobe? I don't understand what you just said, lol

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i've never seen a more pseud post in my entire life

          [...]

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >literal word salad
        It was the style back then. Prose was intentionally verbose because people actually studied vocabulary.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I travel for the thrill to discover something new not to be intoxicated.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's a definite foreigner effect where average men can trade up sexually abroad, rather than dating across or even god forbid down, in certain places.

    If that's not why you're traveling I have nothing to say to you.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He traveled before it was easy

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather be drinking a $1 beer in front of a castle in prague than in some biker bar in idaho. So no. I don't agree with Emmerson.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read him. Had you known Emerson's broader thoughts you'd have understood that he isn't denigrating travel in itself. Rather, Emerson believes beauty exists universally because God is universal, and he meant that as in God is identical with material. His ontology was bizzare and literal. His intention in your quote is to say beauty/truth etc etc are everywhere, and you don't have to travel to ostensibly "better," places to behold it. Going to Boston for the MFA is different from Going to Boston just to see Boston.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it's just funny to claim that people used less whores in the past, when it was legal, everywhere, and a requirement for any functional military, trade, or industrial sector.

    The neopuritan then feminist bullshit in the USA is actually what is new and an outlier. The west turning into a sex desert is what led men who would for all of human history had their needs met at home, fleeing overseas because they have a desperate physical and psychological need for intimacy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The west turning into a sex desert is what led men who would for all of human history had their needs met at home, fleeing overseas because they have a desperate physical and psychological need for intimacy.
      I think this should be rephrased/expanded to focus on men needing to go overseas for their *recreational* need for intimacy. Married or otherwise "respectable" men used to be able to get as much strange as they wanted - professional prostitutes, casual prostitutes (slip the waitress or maid a little extra), mistresses, etc. A guys' night out meant getting a bunch of girls at some point. Now it's like you said - a desert. Married and respectable men still want to get some strange, but they can't do it every weekend. Now they need to plan it around their vacations, going to parts of the world (roughly 80% of the world) where men can still get sex on tap.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think this should be rephrased/expanded to focus on men needing to go overseas for their *recreational* need for intimacy.

        yeah you are right, it's both
        there is nothing wrong with men wanting to fuck for fun and paying a professional for the service either, it's a legitimate form of recreation and the state shouldn't be involved at all except to shut down actual slave operations

        having an established market value for cunt access might do wonders for male x female relations in this country

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          actually scratch the last part, now I am remembering all the bar girls and prozzies I fucked in philippines in thailand telling me about how they have 'sponsors' or sugar daddies paying them absurd amounts of money per month, yet they still let me fuck their brains out and blow inside of them for like $35

          simps are always going to simp, and whores are always going to whore, never forget it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          actually scratch the last part, now I am remembering all the bar girls and prozzies I fucked in philippines in thailand telling me about how they have 'sponsors' or sugar daddies paying them absurd amounts of money per month, yet they still let me fuck their brains out and blow inside of them for like $35

          simps are always going to simp, and whores are always going to whore, never forget it

          You are legit mentally ill seek chelp

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nobody cares what you think, not me, not anybody in the real world
            you're a nobody, and a loser, and probably poor and fat too

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember my first time solo travelling. I went to Rome and felt the exact way described in OP. Wherever you go, there are you. And if you seek a new geographical location thinking you're going to escape from some sort of suffering you will learn your body shadows every step you take. Or to put it more clearly, if you're depressed it won't make a different to you wandering your depressed body somewhere else. The problem is within.

    And fundamentally the world or rather being alive, being a human body is much of the sameness. You exist as your body and it doesn't matter where in the world you are, much if the day is spent dealing with its needs - finding shelter, cleaning, cooking, buying food, eating, finding comfort, clothes, sex, water, walking to places, etc, etc. Our lives really are just dealing with the burdens of our bodies. Just even more fundamentally every moment I'm not in deep sleep I'm adjusting my position, shifting from 1 foot to the other, relieving pressure somewhere. I'm on a bus at the moment and sitting isn't just this passive comfortability - it's an active constant shift of weight and pressure. It hurts to sit for long periods of time. This is just an illustration of how burdensome our bodies are.

    And really, how different are other places anyway? It's just the content of what your sense changes, rather than the structure. There's still your body, your visual field, the sounds you hear. What's really changing? The trees might look a little different, the foods might taste a little different. Nothing fundamentally has changed. You're still a body of burdens in an external world that is cold and indifferent to your needs.

    Just keep in mind that "tourism", "travelling" is an industry. It's a way for people to make a living by selling ideas and experiences to rich foreigners. Going to another place is like consuming a product. Oh you've "done" Italy?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The material is changing. And if the material changes, there is a huge probability that you will change as you are a product of your environment to which your thoughts reflect upon and your acts interact with. Simply put, by changing your environment, you can change yourself.
      But it has to be a meaningful experience. If all you do is go to a hotel, do some sightseeing for a couple of days and then come back, then yes, you're not doing shit. But if you do it in a certain way, travel can be great shock therapy by putting you in a completely novel environment and make you become someone you couldn't have been by staying put. We are not beings of pure willpower capable of changing in a vacuum. And moving to a very different physical and cultural location can be a good catalyst for change.
      Of course, if it is a short term experience where you shelter yourself and keep yourself in your comfort zone (i.e doing nothing really novel) by really just doing what you could do back home, you're not doing shit. It's like going to the beach. You've definitely made the effort to move from your home which is dry to an area where you can get wet, but if you didn't go ahead and made an effort to swim, you're still dry, so you haven't really achieved anything.

      Doesn't mean you can't enjoy yourself, though. But if you want to do something meaningful, there is an extra effort you must bring forth.

      However Emerson does have a few quotes about travelling that hilariously fit sighsee :

      >I am not much an advocate for traveling, and I observe that men run away to other countries because they are not good in their own, and run back to their own because they pass for nothing in the new places. For the most part, only the light characters travel. Who are you that have no task to keep you at home?
      >No man should travel until he has learned the language of the country he visits. Otherwise he voluntarily makes himself a great baby - so helpless and so ridiculous.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depressed people are the worst. "Everything sucks, no matter where you go; no, really" they say, with total sincerity, wrapped up in their own petty problems that they blow out of proportion.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Travelling is good for western men because their women abuse them and try to make them feel worthless in order to control them, almost like breaking down a slave mentally.

    Asian women make western men feel appreciated and show them to good life so it could save a lot of incels from suicide

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