Thanks for sharing. It explains why I always have thoughts of saying "fuck it", quitting my job, buying a 1 way ticket to Asia, and taking my 150k with me.
The goal is to work hard enough that you get to live in your ideal world. I'm going yo live with my mom until I'm 30, helping with cooking, the bills, cleaning the house. I'm not buying cars nor houses, I'm saving my money and I'll spend half of my life traveling. That's the way I want to live my life.
Nahh niggy you gay. Adventures are great.
My blackpill is that I hope I will meet a cool bro or hoe to team up with on some grand adventure to make it more epic but the reality is I end up doing a bunch of badass shit all alone and it gets lonely and then I sit alone in a hotel room and listen to New Order and the lonliness is actually really magical in its own way
I stay in hotels nearly all the time, I always find bros and hoes to kick it with. I don't need the handicap hand holding of staying in a filthy hostel to just hang out with other travelers exclusively.
I never understood the appeal of hostels. It's nearly a sure fire way to eventually run into an Australian and have your trip ruined. I've always stayed in locally owned hotels, or better yet AirBnb type situations, but not necessarily through the airbnb website. More local and interesting that way, just have to choose your base carefully.
Message AirBNB owner.
Ask him to see the place.
Negotiate one month stay in his place without involving Airbnb.
Enjoy living in his airbnb without the airbnb fees.
Note that you must be present physically there to do this successfully.
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airbnb prevents sharing of phone number or address without a booking. book one night, pay one night's fees, then chat with the host about a longer stay.
Literally me minus the band and the badass shit. I like to get drunk and listen to visceral music at the club and eat delicious food but it gets to me when I see the vast majority of people in couples or groups. Getting rejected multiple times at the club and getting literally 0 non-bot Tinder matches can cut through the drunkness but I think it ends up being a net positive anyway.
>Getting rejected multiple times at the club and getting literally 0 non-bot Tinder matches can cut through the drunkness
At least they let me in the club abroad. In the USA I am denied access to all clubs, everywhere. I have never been inside a club in the US because bouncers always say no. But abroad I am always let in. One time in BCN I almost didn’t get let in, but then the 3 girls I was with made him change his mind and he let me in. Close call!
Traveling influencers from instagram are real and their lives are a giant fucking vacation. Their faces look like they've had work done but you can't quite put your finger on what specifically.
I can count on one hand the number of digital meme laptop hobos I’ve met that have real tangible jobs and aren’t doing some phoney bullshit like “marketing strategist” or “life coach”.
dont forget digital hobos whos "job" is daytrading cryptos and memetokens.
Most jobs are memes nowadays. HR roasties all over the place pulling in $200k per year while admitting that they haven’t really had any tasks for the past 6 months.
Can’t hate them for taking advantage of a superheated and irrational economy to do as little as possible for 6 figures so that they can travel as much as they’d like
Same age, same predicament. The urge to pack a bag and go on an indefinite adventure follows me every day. Although by adventure I basically mean bumming around SE Asia on a budget and hoping something cool happens from time to time.
I do that too man, I do that too, you know the brutal sadness though, as we age even less people are interested in knowing us than ever before, somewhere between 35-50 you become 'too old' and people just don't give a damn what's inside you anymore. So we'll still travel but outside a smile from someone once in a while that cool thing probably won't happen.
> as we age even less people are interested in knowing us than ever before, somewhere between 35-50 you become 'too old' and people just don't give a damn what's inside you anymore
Real. I’m 33 and I already see this starting to happen
> as we age even less people are interested in knowing us than ever before, somewhere between 35-50 you become 'too old' and people just don't give a damn what's inside you anymore
Real. I’m 33 and I already see this starting to happen
I’m 30 but look 23, people approach me to start conversations and shit. Well when I tell people my real age they visibly cringe backwards and quickly end the conversation. Lmao
Nah fuck that, travelling white pills: >at least 95% of people, regardless of race, nationality, religion or wealth have no interest in stealing, hurting or exploiting you - even if you are a foreigner. People are generally honest. >It only takes a few small decisions to save a thousand or more dollars on your next trip. >Greet people with a smile, not overly enthusiastic or loud as some will think you are mocking them or faking it, but simply greet people with a smile and politeness and you will never have a bad interaction. >There are aspects of the human experience that are totally different in different cultures and regions, but usually these things are trivial. The most important aspects of life are the same for everyone. >You CAN save more money for your next trip and you CAN do it without sacrificing too much. Stop getting shitty fast food, cut down on time-wasting subscription services, get your weekly groceries listed and organised, it really does all add up. >Children will always be impressed by photos and stories from your time in foreign countries. >Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories >Many of the best travelling experiences come from trying to save, not spend, money >Making consistent weekly payments into a basic ETF portfolio paying 5% yearly dividends will cut your full-time working career by literal decades: if you ever wonder how you see guys in their 30s and 40s making a living from a few days of bar work or mowing lawns a week, this is it. >Making the foods you had overseas while at home will help you relive the memories >Many people become spectators of their own lives, just going through the motions, accepting what they get and not chasing what they want. Jump into a foreign country with a backpack of clothing and no concrete plans and you have no choice but to take charge. Take that attitude home with you.
>Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories
True about family members, not true about friend groups. Unless your friend group are also big travelers they don't give half a fuck about you getting on a plane and going somewhere and the only stories they care to hear or listen to are the ones in which shit goes wrong.
True, if you hang out with people who's idea of travelling is drinking 16 beers and sleeping on a beach or in a forest, they won't care about your time abroad.
A weird jealousy can stir up when sharing traveling stories
People assume my mommy floats me cash and thats how i go travel wild
Even after i explain to the idiot who is jealous of my freedom That i live in a van, work odd jobs, have no gf or kids... and save all my $$$ to go spend $2500 on a few month trip they are still just as dumb
Some people hate to see freedom .. proabbaly because they are too scared to embrace a more true free life for themselves
Same anon. Especially in the US the concept of travel is an insane idea to them. They can't not get Door Dash every other day, they can't not buy a 4,000$ car (it has to be 40k), they can't not consoooom. And then when you tell them about your travels they instantly revert to huge amounts of cope as to why you were able to 'afford' it and they weren't.
I sincerely can't talk to anyone I know about my travels because of this. Even my best friend who is married to a doctor and they have like $400,000 combined income can't swing trips as often as we do because they overspend on useless bullshit. It's as simple as having priorities in life and going for them. Also avoiding tourist traps and being wise about spending one's money is not that hard.
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My friends from back home thought I received a massive insurance settlement when I was a kid from a car accident and that's how I funded it (it was 2,000$), not that I stopped being a neet and joined the Air Guard and got a 20,000$ signing bonus. The boomers were right when they said 'no one wants to work anymore.' I decided I had to start traveling one way or the other and delivering pizza wasn't going to cut it so I sold out and joined the ~~*military*~~ in order to make it fucking happen.
>4,000$ car
That wouldn't even get you a salvage car. Ask me how I know
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you're full of shit
I spent 2400 on a used car last year (found it on craigslist) and it has held up just fine
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Sacrifices, I have a new car car maybe that's why it's been 8 months since my last trip.
I stay in hotels nearly all the time, I always find bros and hoes to kick it with. I don't need the handicap hand holding of staying in a filthy hostel to just hang out with other travelers exclusively.
Proof, stay in hotels the whole time and come back alone and leave alone always, except for when I am in Asia occasionally.
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>come back alone and leave alone
Yeah and? Doesn't mean you're alone your entire trip. It's a peak r/solotravel moment to think that if you don't stay in hostels you're just alone 24/7
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My car was 4,000$ (2010 Kia Optima) has slight hail damage but mechanically is and has been sound. I've thought about selling it for something older with less miles and costs less money because they are out there. Ask me how I know.
Same anon. Especially in the US the concept of travel is an insane idea to them. They can't not get Door Dash every other day, they can't not buy a 4,000$ car (it has to be 40k), they can't not consoooom. And then when you tell them about your travels they instantly revert to huge amounts of cope as to why you were able to 'afford' it and they weren't.
I sincerely can't talk to anyone I know about my travels because of this. Even my best friend who is married to a doctor and they have like $400,000 combined income can't swing trips as often as we do because they overspend on useless bullshit. It's as simple as having priorities in life and going for them. Also avoiding tourist traps and being wise about spending one's money is not that hard.
In Australia a coffee from a real cafe will cost $5, most people I know have at least 3 a week (many have 2 a day!), 3*5*52 = $780 per year, and that's just on coffee. I imagine Australia and the USA have a similar cultural phenomenon where people who are good with money can be viewed as 'pretentious' and it really changes the dynamic with your relationships with some people.
Some people get so jealous, and they tend to be never-travellers and poors. These days, I just cut those people out, if they want to stay poor that's their problem. My current friend circle is pretty well-educated and financially savvy, most of us openly talk about our money and our goals and that, it's great, but some friends I had years ago would just get bitter and angry if you told them you started saving and shit.
Same. People assume everything was given to me and so if I ever struggle they assume I am just irresponsible or don't want to work when I hustled to get hundreds of jobs just to get by and wasn't able to save up anything, have any real lasting relationships, no home, don't even have many items because I have to keep it down to a couple suitcases. And these experiences don't help shit to move up in the world. You have to meet the right people to offer you jobs. I have had to lie about my qualifications and lucked out that nobody checked. I haven't always even been given the right visa either.
NTA but if you're living in a van you can drive it to any travel destination for thousands of miles as long as you're not on an island, there's no accommodation cost, only cost is fuel/food.
I've made multiple trips to provincial parts of the Philippines. Obviously not as lavish as USA. But there's internet, food, water, and everything is cheap.
I realized like 95% of my needs were being met on 1/5th the cost of living of some USA city. Really made.me question why the hell it's so expensive to live in the USA.
Based, never travelers need to fuck off. Let them rot and fester in their mothers basements and stop trying to reason with them. Its always one cope after another to justify not doing it or to keep others from doing it
Rare based post on this shitheap of a board where half of the posters spend more time powerfantasizing than actually travelling. Misery loves company so they try to impart their miserable worldview on everyone around them
An ETF or index fund is like a stock that is an amalgamation of many different stocks. An example would be S&P500, which is simply America's top 500 companies all in one stock. Another one would be VDHG, or VAS, they're just a stock that holds many individual stocks.
The key word here is diversification. If you put your money into 3 companies like tesla, apple and microsoft, if tesla goes under you've totally fucked a third of your money, but if your money is in 2 or 3 ETFs, and a few companies go under it doesn't matter, you are literally holding hundreds or even thousands of stocks via these ETFs. It would literally take a total collapse of the west for these ETFs to lose you money, at which point you probably don't care about your money anyway. Even during a crisis like 2008 or covid, those losses only last a year or two, in the long run you end up beating inflation.
The best part about this is dividends and compound interest. On average these ETFs beat inflation by 6% every year. If you just invest $100, $200 or whatever you can every single week into your ETF portfolio, compound interest starts kicking in and it's pretty simple to see what happens, the bigger your portfolio gets the faster it grows, the longer you invest the more interest you earn. If your portfolio pays a 5% dividend each year and you have $1M in it, you're earning $50,000 a year, you can travel the world full time on that money if you go to cheap countries.
All you need to do is find a broker. If you're Australian, sign up to pearler, if you're not Australian you're gonna have to do your own research. The main thing you're looking for is fixed price transactions. Read up on passive investing and financial independence.
let's pretend that I'm 30, have a gf, and we both have decent jobs...but know absolutely nothing about ETFs. where do I go to start investing in one and saving
My main advice is STAY FAR AWAY from sighsee, they are much more focused on "active investing" where you buy individual stocks or crypto, make trades frequently and risk losing all your money. This is a massive fucking trap to fall into, doing day trading and being a wolf of wall street sounds cool but research has proven that simply making regular payments of ETFs and not caring about 'timing the market' BEATS active trading in the long run.
There are a ton of blogs about this stuff. Search up "financial independence USA" or whatever country you're from, that will probably be the right place to start, but I will give you the basic outline of what to do here: >Research passive investing, financial independence, brokers in your country >Pick a broker
You're looking for fixed price transactions with no yearly fees. If you can, a broker that also allows automation is really good, you can just set up to have $X pulled from the bank every week and you can save and invest without having to manually do anything. You also want to make sure they're government regulated. >Pick 2 or 3 ETFs and start >Set a household budget that allows you to invest as much as you can afford
It is still important to have money in the bank in case you lose your job, have car trouble etc. >Learn to live frugally, find where you can save money in everyday life without becoming a cheap-ass >Continue reading the financial independence blogs and revising your budget every now and then >Have monthly discussions with your girlfriend about your goals, your budget, your income etc.
After this, it's simply about sticking to the plan. Depending on how much you contribute, the first 3 years won't be noteworthy, the next 3 years will be motivating because you will earn a decent amount of interest, and the next 10 years after that will see exponential growth because you're reinvesting the dividends and sticking to the plan.
>My main advice is STAY FAR AWAY from sighsee, they are much more focused on "active investing" where you buy individual stocks or crypto, make trades frequently and risk losing all your money. This is a massive fucking trap to fall into, doing day trading and being a wolf of wall street sounds cool
FUCKING KEK. But it is far more fun that way. sighsee cross poster here, and these aren't mutually exclusive strategies btw. I've been DCAing into safe coins for years, only a small bit was used for degenerate meme coin gambling.
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It's cool if you want to get 5% of the money you would have put in long term investments and just fuck with it, I actually think might be a good thing to do because of the potential for a big win. But there's too many people out there that don't understand that it's money that can be gone in seconds, and if it can go up fast it can go down faster. Some people are just dumb and they are the ones who fall into the traps.
If I discovered sighsee 2 years before I did I could have been rich right now but I understand that the crypto boom was an usual thing so your advice is probably still good. People see “high risk, high reward” and completely block out the risk part of that phrase.
That's the thing though, it's always "if I knew about this 2 years ago". Yes, everyone would have $10k in bitcoin 10 years ago if they knew about it. But you have to be early to the party with that stuff. It's easy to say you would have dropped $10k on bitcoin in hindsight, but would you have done so at the time if someone told you to? Would you have really dropped that amount of money just because some sighsee guy said so? Considering it was new technology at the time and considered a total gamble? The unfortunate answer is if you would have dropped a bunch of money on bitcoin because of sighsee, you're exactly the person that SHOULDN'T be doing that stuff. Like I said above I still think it's ok to designate a small amount of your investment money to just playing around with active investing.
If I discovered sighsee 2 years before I did I could have been rich right now but I understand that the crypto boom was an usual thing so your advice is probably still good. People see “high risk, high reward” and completely block out the risk part of that phrase.
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>If I discovered sighsee 2 years
When I was active on sighsee there was a single week that i could have made 2 million dollars in a single week. There was a 6 month period that I tracked where I could have made a billion.
It's all gambling in the end. Insider trading is what fuels it all, and doing active trading as an outsider is the dumbest shit imaginable. It's like buying every toy you see at walmart hoping one of them ends up being the next pokemon so you can resell them on ebay. It all leaves you with no money and a bunch of stupid toys nobody gives a shit about that you now need to sell for pennies
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Did you calculate your returns if you were to blindly invest in everything? What about paper trading everything you think will be a good trade, and then measuring against reality?
I am too lazy to do this, but it might be a good way to make some side cash.
In my own example. I make 6k after tax per month, and put 500 ever 2 weeks into my RRSP and 200 into a TFSA. While it's not alot that 12k a year that I put into my RRSP compounds interest into the multiple index funds that I own (mostly vanguard ones) and a bunch of blue chip stuff, like AMD/Intel, rail companies and telecommunications. Same with my TFSA stuff.
I started investing at 32, I'm 36 now and have 60k siting in both those accounts. By the time I'm 60 I'll 500k as long as the market doesn't shit itself, if I keep this up. My salary will only increase and I'll eventually add more, once my car payments are done. Any savings from my RRSP/refund gets automatically thrown back into my RRSP for more tax savings the next year.
For the record I'm single and not a homeowner. People who bought homes are much more ahead. But I do have the ability to travel every year for 3-4 weeks (1 longhaul overseas vacation and 1 few day vacation on my continent)
I wish I got my head straight in my early 20's but I grew up orphaned and with an awful childhood. I dealt with my demons, saw a therapist and got my life together at like 29.
Theres hope for all of you just the best time to start is now.
Then for Vacations how I save, is I always camp out the cheap flight blogs, and plan my vacation around those. For example, there was a 500 dollar flight from Vancouver to HK/Vietnam for next April. I'll book that flight then about 5-6 months before the flight I'll start spamming sites like agoda everyday where you don't pay for the hotel upfront and start planning at itenerary for cities i'll visit or things I'll want to see. Then I'll start saving for the trip by ending discretionary spending (I will literally stop eating out and revert to protein bars and cans of tuna for lunch and yoghurt/cottage cheese for breakfasts) and put away 1k every 2 weeks.
This way I can have an extravagant vacation and not worry about debt ever.
> ETFs. It would literally take a total collapse of the west for these ETFs to lose you money, at which point you probably don't care about your money anyway
I mean with the way things are going…
ETFs are corrupt as fuck and full of insider deals when building baskets. The overall strategy is sound, but unless you are retarded or have more money than time to manage it, it may better to just build your own. E.g. if you think semiconductors and computer hardware is going to stay relevant, buy nvda, tsmc, ssnlf, etc. Same for other economic sectors.
It's also prudent to understand that you are specifically betting on the continued success of USD/EUR as reserve currencies and economic centers with most ETFs. Take care to diversify internationally to reduce your exposure to this. As a dollar holder, you get an unearned but pleasant exchange boost, use that while it lasts.
When you are sub millions, it often makes more sense to make slightly riskier bets on more solid goods. Real estate flipping and airbnb is a meme for a reason, it does work. Consider international real estate investing for further diversification in the submillion range.
If you are at all tech literate, crypto is totally fine. Even as a highly risk adverse investor, 5-10% of your portfolio is not an unreasonable investment considering how mature the ecosystem has become in recent years. Take the same basket strategy as you do with stocks, you don't need some strong investment knowledge or moonshot speculation here.
>Consider international real estate investing for further diversification in the submillion range.
Where on the planet would you invest in real estate these days, anon?
Lots of places. Anywhere where the government isnt rabid communists and the local economy is not usd dependent. Extra bonus if relatively decoupled from the west politically and the country offers residency by investment. This particular strategy is speculating that people with money might want to leave the west and flee to that country, hence it's a strategy to hedge risk away from the US ETFs.
Current macro situation is far too strange to recommend standard real estate investment strategies.
>If you are at all tech literate, crypto is totally fine.
Don't even have to be tech literate anymore with sites like robinhood or wealthsimple that opened up non-custodial crypto trades. Although you miss out on a lot of altcoins, I just use it to conveniently have automatic reoccurring buys on btc/eth. >When you are sub millions, it often makes more sense to make slightly riskier bets
Agreed, it's so important to make a few high risk bets with a small portion of your portfolio, otherwise you'll be grinding it out as a wagie for 25+ years just to retire. When I was in my 20s I wired $5k (20% of my net worth) to a random Japanese bank so I could buy ethereum in 2017, everything dropped in price soon after I bought and at the time I was sweating bullets, I had never sent money this way or risked so much. But I held on tight and it's done more than a 10x since then. If I was too risk adverse I would have never taken that opportunity and missed out. Similarly I've put money into Celsius and I'll probably never get it back because the guy scammed everyone, but overall I'm way up compared to where I'd be if I never done anything risky.
It's not like it has to be all in, I was constantly contributing to an RRSP and TFSA the entire time as well from my wagie job.
Lots of places. Anywhere where the government isnt rabid communists and the local economy is not usd dependent. Extra bonus if relatively decoupled from the west politically and the country offers residency by investment. This particular strategy is speculating that people with money might want to leave the west and flee to that country, hence it's a strategy to hedge risk away from the US ETFs.
Current macro situation is far too strange to recommend standard real estate investment strategies.
What countries work for this? I'm interested in retiring early in maybe thailand or philippines and I'd be interested in doing this if the real estate investment is $50k-100k but I feel like I couldn't rent it high enough to pay for itself. Maybe doing a duplex and living in one half?
In my own example. I make 6k after tax per month, and put 500 ever 2 weeks into my RRSP and 200 into a TFSA. While it's not alot that 12k a year that I put into my RRSP compounds interest into the multiple index funds that I own (mostly vanguard ones) and a bunch of blue chip stuff, like AMD/Intel, rail companies and telecommunications. Same with my TFSA stuff.
I started investing at 32, I'm 36 now and have 60k siting in both those accounts. By the time I'm 60 I'll 500k as long as the market doesn't shit itself, if I keep this up. My salary will only increase and I'll eventually add more, once my car payments are done. Any savings from my RRSP/refund gets automatically thrown back into my RRSP for more tax savings the next year.
For the record I'm single and not a homeowner. People who bought homes are much more ahead. But I do have the ability to travel every year for 3-4 weeks (1 longhaul overseas vacation and 1 few day vacation on my continent)
I wish I got my head straight in my early 20's but I grew up orphaned and with an awful childhood. I dealt with my demons, saw a therapist and got my life together at like 29.
Theres hope for all of you just the best time to start is now.
Then for Vacations how I save, is I always camp out the cheap flight blogs, and plan my vacation around those. For example, there was a 500 dollar flight from Vancouver to HK/Vietnam for next April. I'll book that flight then about 5-6 months before the flight I'll start spamming sites like agoda everyday where you don't pay for the hotel upfront and start planning at itenerary for cities i'll visit or things I'll want to see. Then I'll start saving for the trip by ending discretionary spending (I will literally stop eating out and revert to protein bars and cans of tuna for lunch and yoghurt/cottage cheese for breakfasts) and put away 1k every 2 weeks.
This way I can have an extravagant vacation and not worry about debt ever.
>Then I'll start saving for the trip by ending discretionary spending (I will literally stop eating out and revert to protein bars and cans of tuna for lunch and yoghurt/cottage cheese for breakfasts) and put away 1k every 2 weeks.
kek I've started planning my first trip in years for another 5 months and I started doing the same thing, no more eating out, cooking every meal. Saving loads more now.
the funny part is I can afford more expensive flights, but the cheap destinations to asia are always awesome. Cheap hotels, cheap food, great history, lots to see. Then the extra money can go to shopping for electronics/cameras/experiences.
Granted I might explore more of europe next year, so hopefully I find a cheap flight to the netherlands and transit to my home country (greece)
>It would literally take a total collapse of the west for these ETFs to lose you money
I did some heavy investing in 2019. I still haven't recovered all the money I lost in 2020-22.
If you think that a "collapse of the west" is some unthinkable impossibility, then you may have to reconsider
>Not recovering the money you lost from covid
How the hell do you pull that off lol. The S&P500 dropped but then compensated 2x for the losses. Unless you saw the number go down and panic sold, or unless you weren't holding index funds but instead some risky small-cap growth stocks it was actually pretty fucking difficult to lose money over covid.
Also yes a collapse of the west at least economically is totally possible but I like to think if that happens I'd be more concerned with how to get my next meal over what my finances look like.
>Not recovering the money you lost from covid
How the hell do you pull that off lol. The S&P500 dropped but then compensated 2x for the losses. Unless you saw the number go down and panic sold, or unless you weren't holding index funds but instead some risky small-cap growth stocks it was actually pretty fucking difficult to lose money over covid.
Also yes a collapse of the west at least economically is totally possible but I like to think if that happens I'd be more concerned with how to get my next meal over what my finances look like.
S&P500 graph clearly showing how hard it is for you to have lost money unless you were actively trading.
>Many people become spectators of their own lives, just going through the motions, accepting what they get and not chasing what they want. Jump into a foreign country with a backpack of clothing and no concrete plans and you have no choice but to take charge. Take that attitude home with you.
This really hit home. I’m 27 and feel like my time is running out, but my parents were sad when I told them that I’m leaving. At the end of the day though, I’m more afraid of wasting more years of my youth than anything. It will only get worse for me in America. I would never forgive myself knowing the options that I have but seem “scary” if I didn’t pull the trigger and submitted to American suburban slavery and castration.
>Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories
I disagree, also
>Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories
True about family members, not true about friend groups. Unless your friend group are also big travelers they don't give half a fuck about you getting on a plane and going somewhere and the only stories they care to hear or listen to are the ones in which shit goes wrong.
I half disagree. I’ve traveled extensively and both my friends and family try to shit on me for it or outright attack/threaten me. Family says: >y-y-you went to Amsterdam?!?! YOU WERE PROBABLY DOING DRUGS AND EXPLOITING WOMERINOS REEEEEEEEE, YOU DESERVE TO BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY!!! I-IM TELLING A JUDGE!!!
Friends say: >TRAVELLING SUCKS, OK?!? ITS NOT AS COOL AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE
A weird jealousy can stir up when sharing traveling stories
People assume my mommy floats me cash and thats how i go travel wild
Even after i explain to the idiot who is jealous of my freedom That i live in a van, work odd jobs, have no gf or kids... and save all my $$$ to go spend $2500 on a few month trip they are still just as dumb
Some people hate to see freedom .. proabbaly because they are too scared to embrace a more true free life for themselves
Same anon. Especially in the US the concept of travel is an insane idea to them. They can't not get Door Dash every other day, they can't not buy a 4,000$ car (it has to be 40k), they can't not consoooom. And then when you tell them about your travels they instantly revert to huge amounts of cope as to why you were able to 'afford' it and they weren't.
I sincerely can't talk to anyone I know about my travels because of this. Even my best friend who is married to a doctor and they have like $400,000 combined income can't swing trips as often as we do because they overspend on useless bullshit. It's as simple as having priorities in life and going for them. Also avoiding tourist traps and being wise about spending one's money is not that hard.
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In Australia a coffee from a real cafe will cost $5, most people I know have at least 3 a week (many have 2 a day!), 3*5*52 = $780 per year, and that's just on coffee. I imagine Australia and the USA have a similar cultural phenomenon where people who are good with money can be viewed as 'pretentious' and it really changes the dynamic with your relationships with some people.
Some people get so jealous, and they tend to be never-travellers and poors. These days, I just cut those people out, if they want to stay poor that's their problem. My current friend circle is pretty well-educated and financially savvy, most of us openly talk about our money and our goals and that, it's great, but some friends I had years ago would just get bitter and angry if you told them you started saving and shit.
There’s something especially crazed about Americans with regards to traveling. They all follow the same pattern: demonizing any male that goes abroad for an extended period “not” staying at some “two-weeks only” resort and prepackaged tour trip.
One time I came back from my 90 days in Spain and the border security started interrogating me like I was some kind of criminal. He was like >oh oh what was your itinerary, sir??!! Proof of tours?!?! No?! Well your story doesn’t make sense SIR. You went to Spain for 90 days to try the food and experience the culture?! To learn the LANGUAGE?!?!
Long story short they made wait at the border for 3 fucking hours and finally searched my suitcase, finding nothing. Afterwards thry sternly told me something hilarious that I will never forget: >SIR, you were outside of the country for TOO LONG. You have TWO WEEKS SIR, THATS IT, THATS YOUR VACATION TIME. You are allowed to leave for TWO WEEKS. If you ever leave the country for longer than TWO WEEKS again, we will have to charge you SIR.
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>Many of the best travelling experiences come from trying to save, not spend, money
Can you be more specific about that one? The only thing I can think of is walking somewhere instead of using public transportation and finding something along the way.
>Walking instead of using public transport >Using public transport instead of taxi >Overnight bus/ferry instead of flying >Hostel instead of hotel >Small locally owned hotel instead of big foreign hotel franchise >Getting groceries and making your own basic food >Small cosy restaurant instead of fancy restaurant >Nearby alternative to famous tourist trap (example: sifnos instead of santorini: less tourists, more authentic and half the price) >Developing country instead of expensive country
Obviously it's not always true, for example some tourist traps truly are worth it and there is no alternative, or going to an expensive country might be worth it if you're looking for a particular experience. But 9 times out of 10 I have never felt bad about taking the cheaper option. You tend to get a more 'local' experience and save a few bucks in the process, and if something goes wrong you end up with a funny story.
Travel Blackpill >The US is a fucking shithole >I really am justified in my racism >No one who hasn't left the US realizes the previous two statements are true and explaining it to them if they haven't experienced will never understand.
>realize I'm only happy when traveling because have no real life >decide to find new hobbies in hometown >hometown is an ugly, browning, dying pseudo-suburban sprawl
How does it even work if you don't live somewhere decent?
Thanks for putting the recent thoughts I've been having into words. I love this statement - did you read about this somewhere or just your own personal realisation?
That's the conclusion of Italo Calvino's The Invisible Cities, but I had that epiphany when I was in Krakow and I realized I was in a "St. John Street"
What is an example of a city's accident?
>Going to NY: "look, the WTC memorial" >Goint to Paris: "look, the Bastille!"
Meanwhile, in both cities, they are discussing about hobos, immigrants, the traffic, how the trash is being badly collected, how annoying tourists are, etc. Non-major cities has also their problems, small cities idem.
Nah, been doing digital nomad for years, things are just better in certain places. From people being civilized and waiting in queues to food not being garbage (UK vs cantonese food for ex). Don't fall for the cope from jealous non travellers.
The very definition of a problem you have invented in your own head.
You have the miraculous ability to travel to foreign lands quickly and relatively inexpensively. A privilege that even kings did not have in centuries past. You can see the world's wonders, tour any museum, visit any historical site.
Imagine having all of this at your disposal and not enjoying it because you're neurotically worried about it being "escapism"
Like holy shit bro just savor your one precious life
I think if you are miserable at home, and take a short vacation, of course if you come back to the same shitty situation you will feel like little has changed. Not that it is always easy, but if you can make your "regular" life not so shit, either by getting a good work life balance, some pets, a comfy place to life...then you won't hate your regular life so much, so the vacation will feel like a fun excursion
don't take a vacation if you're only doing it to avoid bullshit at home. get your stuff at least sort of squared away, or accept that its gonna suck when you get back lol
Every single time I've gone and done a trip to "escape" from the regular day to day western grind, I've come back reenergized and motivated as fuck to improve my life in such a way that I can do more of that travelling regularly. The problem is the motivation fizzes out and the cycle restarts but regardless, I never come back blackpilled. It takes a special type of misery to have a heart and soul that feels full to the brim after a really great travel experience
>The US and Canada are genuine unlivable shitholes >Travelling anywhere besides Europe and Japan is just gazing at other people's poverty, stray dogs and plastic bags strewn around everywhere >You can literally experience exotic destinations as good or better via Youtube.
What's the point of you just traveling to these countries OP, if you're NOT going to make a play in them?
Come on man, make some investments in this world instead of just going home back to a mundane life.
How do you even invest in these countries? I fell in love with sea but the barrier of entry to “passive” investing seems so high- the only foreigners I really meet who are invested in the region got it either through some MNC or a local hands on business. Really the only thing I’m considering is real estate and hiring local property manager for Airbnb - but then u have to navigate all the bs of asean bureaucracy
Why has this board been infested with blackpill zoomers lately.? So many never travelers seething and coping over Kpop twinks or hoeflation or some other buzzwords
It's an ancient one but a good one; Wherever you go, there you are. Wandering aimlessly around foreign places won't suddenly make you a completely different person who has lived a completely different life.
Idk about this. When I travel, I’m out and about all day every day chatting to people and doing fun shit, but when I’m in the USA i sit alone by myself, don’t go outsidr, and everybody hates me.
Not quite a blackpill but I have noticed that hostel prices have doubled/tripled since my eurotrip last year. What gives? Any methods for cheaper accommodation?
>inflation runs hot >average people cant afford basic necessities anymore >government doesnt want riots so they hand out free money through subsidies >which makes inflation even worse
Repeat until the Euro is a worthless sack of shit and countries opt for their own currencies or a new one issued by ECB
The majority of travellers are good looking extroverts with no self-awareness. You will never fit in with them, you will never experience their level of happiness and abandon, you are not normal enough. You are constantly competing with hordes of bronzed chads. Average looking women will drop you in seconds the moment a couple of cocky, good looking frat bros turn up and amog you into oblivion.
I just want to travel so I can say that I lived..somewhat, solo or not. Though it'll most likely be solo because I don't have friends who want to travel. I'm planning to go to europe next year and then asia (idk where exactly yet). We're all gonna die but at least die knowing you did things that the ppl around you didnt do
That everywhere is basically the same with just small different flavors of bullshit, people are basically the same (you will find basically the same personally archetypes everywhere) , the food is basically the same (it being 10% better in its home nation isn't worth the trip, and in some cases like Italy tomatoes are not even native so most of the food tastes bad anyways if you have lived anywhere tomatoes are native), there is tons of geological and ecological marvels probably less that 50 miles form your house, and if anything is actually unique about a place, in all likelihood they have already found a way to stick it in a box and ship it to you.
Maybe 20-30 years ago you might have had a point, but the ubiquitous nature of sourcing food in nations where eating out isn't a 50/50 shot a food poisoning, well, its the guy cooking your food if anything, and not because the location is special. Dude probably got is recipe from a YouTube video as well.
That everywhere is basically the same with just small different flavors of bullshit, people are basically the same (you will find basically the same personally archetypes everywhere) , the food is basically the same (it being 10% better in its home nation isn't worth the trip, and in some cases like Italy tomatoes are not even native so most of the food tastes bad anyways if you have lived anywhere tomatoes are native), there is tons of geological and ecological marvels probably less that 50 miles form your house, and if anything is actually unique about a place, in all likelihood they have already found a way to stick it in a box and ship it to you.
You can tell this guy has only gone to tourist traps
Someone said to me if you are traveling to escape your feelings it won't work because those feelings will follow you. But if your situation won't change then why not struggle abroad and have adventures while you're at it? Why be stuck in the same shit environment and circumstances when you can make it into a journey? Life is so boring otherwise.
The opportunities I got by just being abroad were far more than I ever got staying put.
I've completely filled 3 passports. When I was younger all I ever wanted to do was travel. For me, I suppose I'm jaded now. I never go to see the thing. I never take pictures. I get pre-flight anxiety whereas before I was excited about a flight. I hate my fellow passengers (mostly) who can't figure out how to get on and off the plane. I can't fucking stand answering the most boring, most repeated question in the world: Where are you from? It happens every time I'm stuck around someone. Traveling is not escapism, it's my life. And of fucking GOD, airport staff! It's not my fault that's the only job they could get and live in the town under the flight pattern. They didn't used to be all cunts. And lately 5 star hotel staff are becoming the same way, but dryer and snidier, like I don't get their special brand of disguised sarcasm, like they're comedic geniuses. They were folding sweaters for a living 2 months ago, they haven't accomplished anything to warrant being such douchebags. And the gay flight attendants, walking cliches. Those hot chick flight attendants from 20 years ago are STILL on the job. Now they're 200 pounds of wrinkled bitter flesh bumping into you knocking your drink out your hand with their fat asses. All the pleasant hotties are gone, except on Asian airlines.
I went to south east asia thinking most girls there would be skinny. Only see fatblob creatures walking around and only managed to fuck one skinny girl. At least I know to never go to Philippines again.
Every time I return from a trip, I feel extremely sad and despondent. It doesn't matter if I went with friends or if I just visited family on another continent. During the trip and on the flight/drive back I tell myself I've had a good experience, I'll put things into order when I come back.
In the end I just end up in front of my PC 24/7, watching porn, drinking. It's hard to tell yourself that barely two days ago you were completely sane and now you've reverted to how you were at your worst.
i once went to finland. Grey depressing shithole where there is nothing to do. Thats my money wasted. thats unironically what stopped me from travelling
>travel is really about bringing home memories >it's more fun to travel with people, even if it's less convenient >it's not fun when there is no conflict >most of the world is quite ordinary >you won't have much adventure if you have nothing to offer unless you are plenty rich >cooming is very degenerate, like very very degenerate >american exports have truly ruined 90% of cultures around the world >people saturate and edit the hell out of their photos so in reality everything looks quite drab
I always dreamed about visiting one particular country for couple of monthssolo, got unpaid vacation and was incredibly excited about doing this. But like two weeks in the trip, I just got depressed as fuck, stayed in the capital, drank, couple of times did drugs and just wasted my time there.
Before I got home, I downloaded pictures from "my" travels from the internet and showed them to my family, because it was easier than to admit I fucked up my dream vacation.
3 yeaars later, I now have this feeling I want to go somewhere for couple of months, but I am also worried it will happen again.
There is nothing to do in New Zealand or Auckland except drink and do drugs or waste time. That's why all the young people leave and go to Australia or other places.
>Going to one country for a couple of months with no work there.
Sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you went to a really massive and diverse country like china or USA. Most people who go live somewhere else for over a month at a time tend to do some kind of work there just to stop themselves getting bored. There's a reason backpackers don't stay in any place for more than a week or so.
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>Living in New Zealand for over a month with no job
The only way I could imagine doing this would be to rent a van and go all over the country. Unless that was your actual plan... What were you thinking? Just go there and see what happens? It's not the most exciting country.
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I did travelling north of Auckland. I remember how excited I was to get to Cape Reigna and went south back. My plan was to hitchike through both islands.
But when I got back to Auckland, I just couldnt go south. Got depressed as fuck
I pretty much did nothing notable after my first two weeks, only one day trip to Rangitoto, but that was it. Otherwise just booze, some drugs, some raves and many hours of self hating.
But I am the type of person, that just wont confide to somebody else I know in real life, so it was easier to just fake my vacation and lie about my experiences if somebody asked. Not sure if my family/friends suspect anything, but nobody said anything.
My plan currently is to take a bike and just go around Europe next year, but I have my doubts if it wont repeat and I will have to fake another vacation.
>Going to one country for a couple of months with no work there.
Sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you went to a really massive and diverse country like china or USA. Most people who go live somewhere else for over a month at a time tend to do some kind of work there just to stop themselves getting bored. There's a reason backpackers don't stay in any place for more than a week or so.
without updating the page first.
>Living in New Zealand for over a month with no job
The only way I could imagine doing this would be to rent a van and go all over the country. Unless that was your actual plan... What were you thinking? Just go there and see what happens? It's not the most exciting country.
Captcha: TRVVRP
Dunno if you're the problem man. I did some solo travel in EU and ended up boozing and doing drugs as it felt incredibly lonely (it was right after a breakup). Then went solo to Asia, made a whole bunch of friends that I still talk to, met some absolute qts and returned back feeling healthier and more content than ever. You have a certain character and predispositions, but the environment you're in greatly influences it. My advice would be to go to places where people are social and try to do things that involve others as that results in the most kino memories.
>Going to one country for a couple of months with no work there.
Sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you went to a really massive and diverse country like china or USA. Most people who go live somewhere else for over a month at a time tend to do some kind of work there just to stop themselves getting bored. There's a reason backpackers don't stay in any place for more than a week or so.
>be me, (former) digital nomad >older brother and I go on vacation to Ireland >he barley has any money, about 300 bucks, I've got a little over 1900 >I try to conserve my money, only going half on hostels with him >3rd day in, he is out of fucking money for blowing it on dancers >asks if he can get money from me >tell him no, the rest of the cash is going to be so we can go back in the next 2 weeks >in the meantime, I worked on a website design project for a client overseas for about 700 bucks >spend the next 3 days waiting for a transfer >in those 3 days, he proceeds to walk around the fucking county just trying to get a job >think he's retarded and will just end up exhausted from walking around >he comes back to the hostel 3 days later >tells me he got not 1, not 2, not 3, but fucking 7 different jobs in the span of 72 hours >a handyman, a security guard, a cashier, another handyman, a furniture mover, a bartender, and finally another handyman job >made a total of 550 dollars from fixing "nothing issues" >just pretended to be a bouncer because he's slightly fat, made 80 dollars from that >made another 60 bucks from moving a small flat into a storage unit >worked as a cashier for literally 2 hours before getting fired for incompetence and sent on his way with $30 bucks >did bartender along side the bouncer thing, earned another $42 from tips >by the end of the 3 week trip, he left with more money then I did waiting for my project to pay >used the last bit of my money to get a flight home with him >night before, he blew almost all of it again on dancers and booze >after the whole thing, I ask him how he managed to do that >he just said "people always kind of need help, as long as you're clean and kind you'll be fine." >got my money transfer 2 weeks later, after tax it was 669.
wtf was the point of this ramble? you got your easy money and paid very little tax from it. only issue was that you didn't have enough cash in buffer so you had to worry about your money while waiting the transfer. boohoo ten day wait ruined my digital nomad dreams.
Not if you can manage to move out. Then it becomes a true escape, at least from what I can gather. Would love to get out of wherever I am right now somehow
Tfw you realise everything you do is just a distraction from your inevitable death. Nothing you do will prevent the fact that you will die.
This. It doesn't matter what you do. It all ends the same way.
I want to die. life is miserable right now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory
Thanks for sharing. It explains why I always have thoughts of saying "fuck it", quitting my job, buying a 1 way ticket to Asia, and taking my 150k with me.
The goal is to work hard enough that you get to live in your ideal world. I'm going yo live with my mom until I'm 30, helping with cooking, the bills, cleaning the house. I'm not buying cars nor houses, I'm saving my money and I'll spend half of my life traveling. That's the way I want to live my life.
your mom sounds hot, is she single?
have you, like, even tried travelling for an extending time
you'll get bored mate
Nahh niggy you gay. Adventures are great.
My blackpill is that I hope I will meet a cool bro or hoe to team up with on some grand adventure to make it more epic but the reality is I end up doing a bunch of badass shit all alone and it gets lonely and then I sit alone in a hotel room and listen to New Order and the lonliness is actually really magical in its own way
Wtf are you me? Maybe one day we’ll meet and go on a crazy adventure together 🙂
Bikes across Europe this summer, or hitchhiking, hopefully camp in some weird spots and work on some farms or something. Probabaly Asia in the winter.
real shit bro
you are me
are you me lmfao
> I hope I will meet a cool bro or hoe to team up with on some grand adventure
>staying in a hotel room
there's your problem bub
I stay in hotels nearly all the time, I always find bros and hoes to kick it with. I don't need the handicap hand holding of staying in a filthy hostel to just hang out with other travelers exclusively.
I never understood the appeal of hostels. It's nearly a sure fire way to eventually run into an Australian and have your trip ruined. I've always stayed in locally owned hotels, or better yet AirBnb type situations, but not necessarily through the airbnb website. More local and interesting that way, just have to choose your base carefully.
How do you find those airbnb type places??
Message AirBNB owner.
Ask him to see the place.
Negotiate one month stay in his place without involving Airbnb.
Enjoy living in his airbnb without the airbnb fees.
Note that you must be present physically there to do this successfully.
airbnb prevents sharing of phone number or address without a booking. book one night, pay one night's fees, then chat with the host about a longer stay.
This is true, but only if you are in countries where preppy type fags go. In other countries that mutts/anglos dont go to, hotels are pretty fun.
>hotels are fun
what are you, some kind of pervert who jacks off to the sex happening in the room next door?
Yes
Literally me minus the band and the badass shit. I like to get drunk and listen to visceral music at the club and eat delicious food but it gets to me when I see the vast majority of people in couples or groups. Getting rejected multiple times at the club and getting literally 0 non-bot Tinder matches can cut through the drunkness but I think it ends up being a net positive anyway.
>Getting rejected multiple times at the club and getting literally 0 non-bot Tinder matches can cut through the drunkness
At least they let me in the club abroad. In the USA I am denied access to all clubs, everywhere. I have never been inside a club in the US because bouncers always say no. But abroad I am always let in. One time in BCN I almost didn’t get let in, but then the 3 girls I was with made him change his mind and he let me in. Close call!
Literally me, but with joy division. I guess that’s jacket blue for ya.
Traveling influencers from instagram are real and their lives are a giant fucking vacation. Their faces look like they've had work done but you can't quite put your finger on what specifically.
I can count on one hand the number of digital meme laptop hobos I’ve met that have real tangible jobs and aren’t doing some phoney bullshit like “marketing strategist” or “life coach”.
dont forget digital hobos whos "job" is daytrading cryptos and memetokens.
i done that for 3 years and am now rich.
Most jobs are memes nowadays. HR roasties all over the place pulling in $200k per year while admitting that they haven’t really had any tasks for the past 6 months.
Can’t hate them for taking advantage of a superheated and irrational economy to do as little as possible for 6 figures so that they can travel as much as they’d like
You fucking idiot
Your blackpill is not my problem.
the entire world is a black pill man. covid was a scam and the state of the u.s. is disgusting
How about you take no pills at all?
#drugfree
At 40 with no wife, no hope, a shit job and a disappointed family I do all the escaping I can tbh.
Same age, same predicament. The urge to pack a bag and go on an indefinite adventure follows me every day. Although by adventure I basically mean bumming around SE Asia on a budget and hoping something cool happens from time to time.
I do that too man, I do that too, you know the brutal sadness though, as we age even less people are interested in knowing us than ever before, somewhere between 35-50 you become 'too old' and people just don't give a damn what's inside you anymore. So we'll still travel but outside a smile from someone once in a while that cool thing probably won't happen.
> as we age even less people are interested in knowing us than ever before, somewhere between 35-50 you become 'too old' and people just don't give a damn what's inside you anymore
Real. I’m 33 and I already see this starting to happen
I’m 30 but look 23, people approach me to start conversations and shit. Well when I tell people my real age they visibly cringe backwards and quickly end the conversation. Lmao
Nah fuck that, travelling white pills:
>at least 95% of people, regardless of race, nationality, religion or wealth have no interest in stealing, hurting or exploiting you - even if you are a foreigner. People are generally honest.
>It only takes a few small decisions to save a thousand or more dollars on your next trip.
>Greet people with a smile, not overly enthusiastic or loud as some will think you are mocking them or faking it, but simply greet people with a smile and politeness and you will never have a bad interaction.
>There are aspects of the human experience that are totally different in different cultures and regions, but usually these things are trivial. The most important aspects of life are the same for everyone.
>You CAN save more money for your next trip and you CAN do it without sacrificing too much. Stop getting shitty fast food, cut down on time-wasting subscription services, get your weekly groceries listed and organised, it really does all add up.
>Children will always be impressed by photos and stories from your time in foreign countries.
>Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories
>Many of the best travelling experiences come from trying to save, not spend, money
>Making consistent weekly payments into a basic ETF portfolio paying 5% yearly dividends will cut your full-time working career by literal decades: if you ever wonder how you see guys in their 30s and 40s making a living from a few days of bar work or mowing lawns a week, this is it.
>Making the foods you had overseas while at home will help you relive the memories
>Many people become spectators of their own lives, just going through the motions, accepting what they get and not chasing what they want. Jump into a foreign country with a backpack of clothing and no concrete plans and you have no choice but to take charge. Take that attitude home with you.
>Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories
True about family members, not true about friend groups. Unless your friend group are also big travelers they don't give half a fuck about you getting on a plane and going somewhere and the only stories they care to hear or listen to are the ones in which shit goes wrong.
True, if you hang out with people who's idea of travelling is drinking 16 beers and sleeping on a beach or in a forest, they won't care about your time abroad.
A weird jealousy can stir up when sharing traveling stories
People assume my mommy floats me cash and thats how i go travel wild
Even after i explain to the idiot who is jealous of my freedom That i live in a van, work odd jobs, have no gf or kids... and save all my $$$ to go spend $2500 on a few month trip they are still just as dumb
Some people hate to see freedom .. proabbaly because they are too scared to embrace a more true free life for themselves
Same anon. Especially in the US the concept of travel is an insane idea to them. They can't not get Door Dash every other day, they can't not buy a 4,000$ car (it has to be 40k), they can't not consoooom. And then when you tell them about your travels they instantly revert to huge amounts of cope as to why you were able to 'afford' it and they weren't.
I sincerely can't talk to anyone I know about my travels because of this. Even my best friend who is married to a doctor and they have like $400,000 combined income can't swing trips as often as we do because they overspend on useless bullshit. It's as simple as having priorities in life and going for them. Also avoiding tourist traps and being wise about spending one's money is not that hard.
My friends from back home thought I received a massive insurance settlement when I was a kid from a car accident and that's how I funded it (it was 2,000$), not that I stopped being a neet and joined the Air Guard and got a 20,000$ signing bonus. The boomers were right when they said 'no one wants to work anymore.' I decided I had to start traveling one way or the other and delivering pizza wasn't going to cut it so I sold out and joined the ~~*military*~~ in order to make it fucking happen.
>4,000$ car
That wouldn't even get you a salvage car. Ask me how I know
you're full of shit
I spent 2400 on a used car last year (found it on craigslist) and it has held up just fine
Sacrifices, I have a new car car maybe that's why it's been 8 months since my last trip.
Proof, stay in hotels the whole time and come back alone and leave alone always, except for when I am in Asia occasionally.
>come back alone and leave alone
Yeah and? Doesn't mean you're alone your entire trip. It's a peak r/solotravel moment to think that if you don't stay in hostels you're just alone 24/7
My car was 4,000$ (2010 Kia Optima) has slight hail damage but mechanically is and has been sound. I've thought about selling it for something older with less miles and costs less money because they are out there. Ask me how I know.
In Australia a coffee from a real cafe will cost $5, most people I know have at least 3 a week (many have 2 a day!), 3*5*52 = $780 per year, and that's just on coffee. I imagine Australia and the USA have a similar cultural phenomenon where people who are good with money can be viewed as 'pretentious' and it really changes the dynamic with your relationships with some people.
Some people get so jealous, and they tend to be never-travellers and poors. These days, I just cut those people out, if they want to stay poor that's their problem. My current friend circle is pretty well-educated and financially savvy, most of us openly talk about our money and our goals and that, it's great, but some friends I had years ago would just get bitter and angry if you told them you started saving and shit.
Same. People assume everything was given to me and so if I ever struggle they assume I am just irresponsible or don't want to work when I hustled to get hundreds of jobs just to get by and wasn't able to save up anything, have any real lasting relationships, no home, don't even have many items because I have to keep it down to a couple suitcases. And these experiences don't help shit to move up in the world. You have to meet the right people to offer you jobs. I have had to lie about my qualifications and lucked out that nobody checked. I haven't always even been given the right visa either.
Where do you go that $2500 can afford a few months?
NTA but if you're living in a van you can drive it to any travel destination for thousands of miles as long as you're not on an island, there's no accommodation cost, only cost is fuel/food.
I've made multiple trips to provincial parts of the Philippines. Obviously not as lavish as USA. But there's internet, food, water, and everything is cheap.
I realized like 95% of my needs were being met on 1/5th the cost of living of some USA city. Really made.me question why the hell it's so expensive to live in the USA.
Where does all my money go? Ha ha
Based, never travelers need to fuck off. Let them rot and fester in their mothers basements and stop trying to reason with them. Its always one cope after another to justify not doing it or to keep others from doing it
Rare based post on this shitheap of a board where half of the posters spend more time powerfantasizing than actually travelling. Misery loves company so they try to impart their miserable worldview on everyone around them
Shill me this magic ETF
An ETF or index fund is like a stock that is an amalgamation of many different stocks. An example would be S&P500, which is simply America's top 500 companies all in one stock. Another one would be VDHG, or VAS, they're just a stock that holds many individual stocks.
The key word here is diversification. If you put your money into 3 companies like tesla, apple and microsoft, if tesla goes under you've totally fucked a third of your money, but if your money is in 2 or 3 ETFs, and a few companies go under it doesn't matter, you are literally holding hundreds or even thousands of stocks via these ETFs. It would literally take a total collapse of the west for these ETFs to lose you money, at which point you probably don't care about your money anyway. Even during a crisis like 2008 or covid, those losses only last a year or two, in the long run you end up beating inflation.
The best part about this is dividends and compound interest. On average these ETFs beat inflation by 6% every year. If you just invest $100, $200 or whatever you can every single week into your ETF portfolio, compound interest starts kicking in and it's pretty simple to see what happens, the bigger your portfolio gets the faster it grows, the longer you invest the more interest you earn. If your portfolio pays a 5% dividend each year and you have $1M in it, you're earning $50,000 a year, you can travel the world full time on that money if you go to cheap countries.
All you need to do is find a broker. If you're Australian, sign up to pearler, if you're not Australian you're gonna have to do your own research. The main thing you're looking for is fixed price transactions. Read up on passive investing and financial independence.
let's pretend that I'm 30, have a gf, and we both have decent jobs...but know absolutely nothing about ETFs. where do I go to start investing in one and saving
My main advice is STAY FAR AWAY from sighsee, they are much more focused on "active investing" where you buy individual stocks or crypto, make trades frequently and risk losing all your money. This is a massive fucking trap to fall into, doing day trading and being a wolf of wall street sounds cool but research has proven that simply making regular payments of ETFs and not caring about 'timing the market' BEATS active trading in the long run.
There are a ton of blogs about this stuff. Search up "financial independence USA" or whatever country you're from, that will probably be the right place to start, but I will give you the basic outline of what to do here:
>Research passive investing, financial independence, brokers in your country
>Pick a broker
You're looking for fixed price transactions with no yearly fees. If you can, a broker that also allows automation is really good, you can just set up to have $X pulled from the bank every week and you can save and invest without having to manually do anything. You also want to make sure they're government regulated.
>Pick 2 or 3 ETFs and start
>Set a household budget that allows you to invest as much as you can afford
It is still important to have money in the bank in case you lose your job, have car trouble etc.
>Learn to live frugally, find where you can save money in everyday life without becoming a cheap-ass
>Continue reading the financial independence blogs and revising your budget every now and then
>Have monthly discussions with your girlfriend about your goals, your budget, your income etc.
After this, it's simply about sticking to the plan. Depending on how much you contribute, the first 3 years won't be noteworthy, the next 3 years will be motivating because you will earn a decent amount of interest, and the next 10 years after that will see exponential growth because you're reinvesting the dividends and sticking to the plan.
>My main advice is STAY FAR AWAY from sighsee, they are much more focused on "active investing" where you buy individual stocks or crypto, make trades frequently and risk losing all your money. This is a massive fucking trap to fall into, doing day trading and being a wolf of wall street sounds cool
FUCKING KEK. But it is far more fun that way. sighsee cross poster here, and these aren't mutually exclusive strategies btw. I've been DCAing into safe coins for years, only a small bit was used for degenerate meme coin gambling.
It's cool if you want to get 5% of the money you would have put in long term investments and just fuck with it, I actually think might be a good thing to do because of the potential for a big win. But there's too many people out there that don't understand that it's money that can be gone in seconds, and if it can go up fast it can go down faster. Some people are just dumb and they are the ones who fall into the traps.
That's the thing though, it's always "if I knew about this 2 years ago". Yes, everyone would have $10k in bitcoin 10 years ago if they knew about it. But you have to be early to the party with that stuff. It's easy to say you would have dropped $10k on bitcoin in hindsight, but would you have done so at the time if someone told you to? Would you have really dropped that amount of money just because some sighsee guy said so? Considering it was new technology at the time and considered a total gamble? The unfortunate answer is if you would have dropped a bunch of money on bitcoin because of sighsee, you're exactly the person that SHOULDN'T be doing that stuff. Like I said above I still think it's ok to designate a small amount of your investment money to just playing around with active investing.
If I discovered sighsee 2 years before I did I could have been rich right now but I understand that the crypto boom was an usual thing so your advice is probably still good. People see “high risk, high reward” and completely block out the risk part of that phrase.
>If I discovered sighsee 2 years
When I was active on sighsee there was a single week that i could have made 2 million dollars in a single week. There was a 6 month period that I tracked where I could have made a billion.
It's all gambling in the end. Insider trading is what fuels it all, and doing active trading as an outsider is the dumbest shit imaginable. It's like buying every toy you see at walmart hoping one of them ends up being the next pokemon so you can resell them on ebay. It all leaves you with no money and a bunch of stupid toys nobody gives a shit about that you now need to sell for pennies
Did you calculate your returns if you were to blindly invest in everything? What about paper trading everything you think will be a good trade, and then measuring against reality?
I am too lazy to do this, but it might be a good way to make some side cash.
In my own example. I make 6k after tax per month, and put 500 ever 2 weeks into my RRSP and 200 into a TFSA. While it's not alot that 12k a year that I put into my RRSP compounds interest into the multiple index funds that I own (mostly vanguard ones) and a bunch of blue chip stuff, like AMD/Intel, rail companies and telecommunications. Same with my TFSA stuff.
I started investing at 32, I'm 36 now and have 60k siting in both those accounts. By the time I'm 60 I'll 500k as long as the market doesn't shit itself, if I keep this up. My salary will only increase and I'll eventually add more, once my car payments are done. Any savings from my RRSP/refund gets automatically thrown back into my RRSP for more tax savings the next year.
For the record I'm single and not a homeowner. People who bought homes are much more ahead. But I do have the ability to travel every year for 3-4 weeks (1 longhaul overseas vacation and 1 few day vacation on my continent)
I wish I got my head straight in my early 20's but I grew up orphaned and with an awful childhood. I dealt with my demons, saw a therapist and got my life together at like 29.
Theres hope for all of you just the best time to start is now.
Then for Vacations how I save, is I always camp out the cheap flight blogs, and plan my vacation around those. For example, there was a 500 dollar flight from Vancouver to HK/Vietnam for next April. I'll book that flight then about 5-6 months before the flight I'll start spamming sites like agoda everyday where you don't pay for the hotel upfront and start planning at itenerary for cities i'll visit or things I'll want to see. Then I'll start saving for the trip by ending discretionary spending (I will literally stop eating out and revert to protein bars and cans of tuna for lunch and yoghurt/cottage cheese for breakfasts) and put away 1k every 2 weeks.
This way I can have an extravagant vacation and not worry about debt ever.
> ETFs. It would literally take a total collapse of the west for these ETFs to lose you money, at which point you probably don't care about your money anyway
I mean with the way things are going…
ETFs are corrupt as fuck and full of insider deals when building baskets. The overall strategy is sound, but unless you are retarded or have more money than time to manage it, it may better to just build your own. E.g. if you think semiconductors and computer hardware is going to stay relevant, buy nvda, tsmc, ssnlf, etc. Same for other economic sectors.
It's also prudent to understand that you are specifically betting on the continued success of USD/EUR as reserve currencies and economic centers with most ETFs. Take care to diversify internationally to reduce your exposure to this. As a dollar holder, you get an unearned but pleasant exchange boost, use that while it lasts.
When you are sub millions, it often makes more sense to make slightly riskier bets on more solid goods. Real estate flipping and airbnb is a meme for a reason, it does work. Consider international real estate investing for further diversification in the submillion range.
If you are at all tech literate, crypto is totally fine. Even as a highly risk adverse investor, 5-10% of your portfolio is not an unreasonable investment considering how mature the ecosystem has become in recent years. Take the same basket strategy as you do with stocks, you don't need some strong investment knowledge or moonshot speculation here.
>Consider international real estate investing for further diversification in the submillion range.
Where on the planet would you invest in real estate these days, anon?
Lots of places. Anywhere where the government isnt rabid communists and the local economy is not usd dependent. Extra bonus if relatively decoupled from the west politically and the country offers residency by investment. This particular strategy is speculating that people with money might want to leave the west and flee to that country, hence it's a strategy to hedge risk away from the US ETFs.
Current macro situation is far too strange to recommend standard real estate investment strategies.
>If you are at all tech literate, crypto is totally fine.
Don't even have to be tech literate anymore with sites like robinhood or wealthsimple that opened up non-custodial crypto trades. Although you miss out on a lot of altcoins, I just use it to conveniently have automatic reoccurring buys on btc/eth.
>When you are sub millions, it often makes more sense to make slightly riskier bets
Agreed, it's so important to make a few high risk bets with a small portion of your portfolio, otherwise you'll be grinding it out as a wagie for 25+ years just to retire. When I was in my 20s I wired $5k (20% of my net worth) to a random Japanese bank so I could buy ethereum in 2017, everything dropped in price soon after I bought and at the time I was sweating bullets, I had never sent money this way or risked so much. But I held on tight and it's done more than a 10x since then. If I was too risk adverse I would have never taken that opportunity and missed out. Similarly I've put money into Celsius and I'll probably never get it back because the guy scammed everyone, but overall I'm way up compared to where I'd be if I never done anything risky.
It's not like it has to be all in, I was constantly contributing to an RRSP and TFSA the entire time as well from my wagie job.
What countries work for this? I'm interested in retiring early in maybe thailand or philippines and I'd be interested in doing this if the real estate investment is $50k-100k but I feel like I couldn't rent it high enough to pay for itself. Maybe doing a duplex and living in one half?
>Then I'll start saving for the trip by ending discretionary spending (I will literally stop eating out and revert to protein bars and cans of tuna for lunch and yoghurt/cottage cheese for breakfasts) and put away 1k every 2 weeks.
kek I've started planning my first trip in years for another 5 months and I started doing the same thing, no more eating out, cooking every meal. Saving loads more now.
the funny part is I can afford more expensive flights, but the cheap destinations to asia are always awesome. Cheap hotels, cheap food, great history, lots to see. Then the extra money can go to shopping for electronics/cameras/experiences.
Granted I might explore more of europe next year, so hopefully I find a cheap flight to the netherlands and transit to my home country (greece)
>It would literally take a total collapse of the west for these ETFs to lose you money
I did some heavy investing in 2019. I still haven't recovered all the money I lost in 2020-22.
If you think that a "collapse of the west" is some unthinkable impossibility, then you may have to reconsider
>Not recovering the money you lost from covid
How the hell do you pull that off lol. The S&P500 dropped but then compensated 2x for the losses. Unless you saw the number go down and panic sold, or unless you weren't holding index funds but instead some risky small-cap growth stocks it was actually pretty fucking difficult to lose money over covid.
Also yes a collapse of the west at least economically is totally possible but I like to think if that happens I'd be more concerned with how to get my next meal over what my finances look like.
S&P500 graph clearly showing how hard it is for you to have lost money unless you were actively trading.
>not using google in dark mode
ngmi
>Many people become spectators of their own lives, just going through the motions, accepting what they get and not chasing what they want. Jump into a foreign country with a backpack of clothing and no concrete plans and you have no choice but to take charge. Take that attitude home with you.
This really hit home. I’m 27 and feel like my time is running out, but my parents were sad when I told them that I’m leaving. At the end of the day though, I’m more afraid of wasting more years of my youth than anything. It will only get worse for me in America. I would never forgive myself knowing the options that I have but seem “scary” if I didn’t pull the trigger and submitted to American suburban slavery and castration.
Sorry anon, 27 is no longer young. Go to a hostel full of 18-21s, I guarantee you will feel old.
>t. took my first backpacking trip at age 26
>>Many of the best travelling experiences come from trying to save, not spend, money
So true
A whitepill in a sea of blackpills that is the internet. Bless you anon, this actually made me teary.
>Well travelled people are automatically the 'cool' members of the family and friend group, and tend to have the best stories
I disagree, also
I half disagree. I’ve traveled extensively and both my friends and family try to shit on me for it or outright attack/threaten me. Family says:
>y-y-you went to Amsterdam?!?! YOU WERE PROBABLY DOING DRUGS AND EXPLOITING WOMERINOS REEEEEEEEE, YOU DESERVE TO BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY!!! I-IM TELLING A JUDGE!!!
Friends say:
>TRAVELLING SUCKS, OK?!? ITS NOT AS COOL AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE
There’s something especially crazed about Americans with regards to traveling. They all follow the same pattern: demonizing any male that goes abroad for an extended period “not” staying at some “two-weeks only” resort and prepackaged tour trip.
One time I came back from my 90 days in Spain and the border security started interrogating me like I was some kind of criminal. He was like
>oh oh what was your itinerary, sir??!! Proof of tours?!?! No?! Well your story doesn’t make sense SIR. You went to Spain for 90 days to try the food and experience the culture?! To learn the LANGUAGE?!?!
Long story short they made wait at the border for 3 fucking hours and finally searched my suitcase, finding nothing. Afterwards thry sternly told me something hilarious that I will never forget:
>SIR, you were outside of the country for TOO LONG. You have TWO WEEKS SIR, THATS IT, THATS YOUR VACATION TIME. You are allowed to leave for TWO WEEKS. If you ever leave the country for longer than TWO WEEKS again, we will have to charge you SIR.
F U C K
T H I S
A N G L O
S H I T H O L E
Imagine trying this hard to act brain rotted for (you)'s.
wot m8? I was out of the country for 3 months at the height of covid and US border guards hardly said anything lmao
>Many of the best travelling experiences come from trying to save, not spend, money
Can you be more specific about that one? The only thing I can think of is walking somewhere instead of using public transportation and finding something along the way.
>Walking instead of using public transport
>Using public transport instead of taxi
>Overnight bus/ferry instead of flying
>Hostel instead of hotel
>Small locally owned hotel instead of big foreign hotel franchise
>Getting groceries and making your own basic food
>Small cosy restaurant instead of fancy restaurant
>Nearby alternative to famous tourist trap (example: sifnos instead of santorini: less tourists, more authentic and half the price)
>Developing country instead of expensive country
Obviously it's not always true, for example some tourist traps truly are worth it and there is no alternative, or going to an expensive country might be worth it if you're looking for a particular experience. But 9 times out of 10 I have never felt bad about taking the cheaper option. You tend to get a more 'local' experience and save a few bucks in the process, and if something goes wrong you end up with a funny story.
Thank you for actually being helpful.
>a positive post
>in my 4chins
I can hardly believe it.
Thank you, anon.
Holy fuck, an actual good post on sighsee???
Very true, and thank you for posting this.
Mood: uplifted.
I love you
Travel Blackpill
>The US is a fucking shithole
>I really am justified in my racism
>No one who hasn't left the US realizes the previous two statements are true and explaining it to them if they haven't experienced will never understand.
>realize I'm only happy when traveling because have no real life
>decide to find new hobbies in hometown
>hometown is an ugly, browning, dying pseudo-suburban sprawl
How does it even work if you don't live somewhere decent?
>All. The. Cities. Are. The. Same.
Philosophically speaking, you don't travel to see the essence of a city, but its accidents.
Thanks for putting the recent thoughts I've been having into words. I love this statement - did you read about this somewhere or just your own personal realisation?
That's the conclusion of Italo Calvino's The Invisible Cities, but I had that epiphany when I was in Krakow and I realized I was in a "St. John Street"
>Going to NY: "look, the WTC memorial"
>Goint to Paris: "look, the Bastille!"
Meanwhile, in both cities, they are discussing about hobos, immigrants, the traffic, how the trash is being badly collected, how annoying tourists are, etc. Non-major cities has also their problems, small cities idem.
What is an example of a city's accident?
Cities are absolutely more about the people of the city rather than the architecture of it
that's a cope for visiting ugly and trash cities
Seoul and Chicago are way different
Nah, been doing digital nomad for years, things are just better in certain places. From people being civilized and waiting in queues to food not being garbage (UK vs cantonese food for ex). Don't fall for the cope from jealous non travellers.
The very definition of a problem you have invented in your own head.
You have the miraculous ability to travel to foreign lands quickly and relatively inexpensively. A privilege that even kings did not have in centuries past. You can see the world's wonders, tour any museum, visit any historical site.
Imagine having all of this at your disposal and not enjoying it because you're neurotically worried about it being "escapism"
Like holy shit bro just savor your one precious life
based
I think if you are miserable at home, and take a short vacation, of course if you come back to the same shitty situation you will feel like little has changed. Not that it is always easy, but if you can make your "regular" life not so shit, either by getting a good work life balance, some pets, a comfy place to life...then you won't hate your regular life so much, so the vacation will feel like a fun excursion
don't take a vacation if you're only doing it to avoid bullshit at home. get your stuff at least sort of squared away, or accept that its gonna suck when you get back lol
Every single time I've gone and done a trip to "escape" from the regular day to day western grind, I've come back reenergized and motivated as fuck to improve my life in such a way that I can do more of that travelling regularly. The problem is the motivation fizzes out and the cycle restarts but regardless, I never come back blackpilled. It takes a special type of misery to have a heart and soul that feels full to the brim after a really great travel experience
>The US and Canada are genuine unlivable shitholes
>Travelling anywhere besides Europe and Japan is just gazing at other people's poverty, stray dogs and plastic bags strewn around everywhere
>You can literally experience exotic destinations as good or better via Youtube.
What's the point of you just traveling to these countries OP, if you're NOT going to make a play in them?
Come on man, make some investments in this world instead of just going home back to a mundane life.
How do you even invest in these countries? I fell in love with sea but the barrier of entry to “passive” investing seems so high- the only foreigners I really meet who are invested in the region got it either through some MNC or a local hands on business. Really the only thing I’m considering is real estate and hiring local property manager for Airbnb - but then u have to navigate all the bs of asean bureaucracy
Life is cope and escapism. Better than wasting your life being a wagie or coping with politics on image boards
Why has this board been infested with blackpill zoomers lately.? So many never travelers seething and coping over Kpop twinks or hoeflation or some other buzzwords
They are demoralization trolls, if you've been here long enough you'll see through their bullshit
It's an ancient one but a good one; Wherever you go, there you are. Wandering aimlessly around foreign places won't suddenly make you a completely different person who has lived a completely different life.
It will make you a person who has lived a completely different life because you will start living a completely different life topkek doomer
Idk about this. When I travel, I’m out and about all day every day chatting to people and doing fun shit, but when I’m in the USA i sit alone by myself, don’t go outsidr, and everybody hates me.
Not quite a blackpill but I have noticed that hostel prices have doubled/tripled since my eurotrip last year. What gives? Any methods for cheaper accommodation?
>inflation runs hot
>average people cant afford basic necessities anymore
>government doesnt want riots so they hand out free money through subsidies
>which makes inflation even worse
Repeat until the Euro is a worthless sack of shit and countries opt for their own currencies or a new one issued by ECB
Nope, this is the price to pay for Slava Ukraini take that Putler
80 USD for a bunk at a hostel in a town near me (USA). This is to keep poorfags from living in hostels and ruining the traveler vibe.
The majority of travellers are good looking extroverts with no self-awareness. You will never fit in with them, you will never experience their level of happiness and abandon, you are not normal enough. You are constantly competing with hordes of bronzed chads. Average looking women will drop you in seconds the moment a couple of cocky, good looking frat bros turn up and amog you into oblivion.
I just want to travel so I can say that I lived..somewhat, solo or not. Though it'll most likely be solo because I don't have friends who want to travel. I'm planning to go to europe next year and then asia (idk where exactly yet). We're all gonna die but at least die knowing you did things that the ppl around you didnt do
traveling is fun, who cares? watching TV & vidya is also escapism, gotta enjoy life, I just happen to enjoy visiting new places.
That everywhere is basically the same with just small different flavors of bullshit, people are basically the same (you will find basically the same personally archetypes everywhere) , the food is basically the same (it being 10% better in its home nation isn't worth the trip, and in some cases like Italy tomatoes are not even native so most of the food tastes bad anyways if you have lived anywhere tomatoes are native), there is tons of geological and ecological marvels probably less that 50 miles form your house, and if anything is actually unique about a place, in all likelihood they have already found a way to stick it in a box and ship it to you.
>the food is basically the same (it being 10% better in its home nation isn't worth the trip
Kek, found the guy who only eats in tourist shit holes.
Maybe 20-30 years ago you might have had a point, but the ubiquitous nature of sourcing food in nations where eating out isn't a 50/50 shot a food poisoning, well, its the guy cooking your food if anything, and not because the location is special. Dude probably got is recipe from a YouTube video as well.
You can tell this guy has only gone to tourist traps
you must be blind if every place looks the same to you
Someone said to me if you are traveling to escape your feelings it won't work because those feelings will follow you. But if your situation won't change then why not struggle abroad and have adventures while you're at it? Why be stuck in the same shit environment and circumstances when you can make it into a journey? Life is so boring otherwise.
The opportunities I got by just being abroad were far more than I ever got staying put.
I've completely filled 3 passports. When I was younger all I ever wanted to do was travel. For me, I suppose I'm jaded now. I never go to see the thing. I never take pictures. I get pre-flight anxiety whereas before I was excited about a flight. I hate my fellow passengers (mostly) who can't figure out how to get on and off the plane. I can't fucking stand answering the most boring, most repeated question in the world: Where are you from? It happens every time I'm stuck around someone. Traveling is not escapism, it's my life. And of fucking GOD, airport staff! It's not my fault that's the only job they could get and live in the town under the flight pattern. They didn't used to be all cunts. And lately 5 star hotel staff are becoming the same way, but dryer and snidier, like I don't get their special brand of disguised sarcasm, like they're comedic geniuses. They were folding sweaters for a living 2 months ago, they haven't accomplished anything to warrant being such douchebags. And the gay flight attendants, walking cliches. Those hot chick flight attendants from 20 years ago are STILL on the job. Now they're 200 pounds of wrinkled bitter flesh bumping into you knocking your drink out your hand with their fat asses. All the pleasant hotties are gone, except on Asian airlines.
Take your meds RealTraveler™
>got married and can't solo travel anymore
I fucked up
why did you marry someone that doesn't make travel more fun than solo travel?
>meet clubfu
>never ever see her again
>meet clubfu
>not sure if was actually clubfu
>never get closure
threr he goes
I went to south east asia thinking most girls there would be skinny. Only see fatblob creatures walking around and only managed to fuck one skinny girl. At least I know to never go to Philippines again.
it could be a way of testing out areas you could move to. not a way of going to places you're not allowed to live in. dont be dumb.
Every time I return from a trip, I feel extremely sad and despondent. It doesn't matter if I went with friends or if I just visited family on another continent. During the trip and on the flight/drive back I tell myself I've had a good experience, I'll put things into order when I come back.
In the end I just end up in front of my PC 24/7, watching porn, drinking. It's hard to tell yourself that barely two days ago you were completely sane and now you've reverted to how you were at your worst.
Its america for me. It sucks so much here that it does that to me all by itself. I hate this place so much its unreal.
The sad times make you appreciate the happy times. The happy times make the sad times hurt more.
i once went to finland. Grey depressing shithole where there is nothing to do. Thats my money wasted. thats unironically what stopped me from travelling
Blackpills:
>travel is really about bringing home memories
>it's more fun to travel with people, even if it's less convenient
>it's not fun when there is no conflict
>most of the world is quite ordinary
>you won't have much adventure if you have nothing to offer unless you are plenty rich
>cooming is very degenerate, like very very degenerate
>american exports have truly ruined 90% of cultures around the world
>people saturate and edit the hell out of their photos so in reality everything looks quite drab
You hate your "home" so much then leave lol
>But I can't just-
There are 80iq retards from Africa banging European 10/10's. I don't want to hear it.
I always dreamed about visiting one particular country for couple of monthssolo, got unpaid vacation and was incredibly excited about doing this. But like two weeks in the trip, I just got depressed as fuck, stayed in the capital, drank, couple of times did drugs and just wasted my time there.
Before I got home, I downloaded pictures from "my" travels from the internet and showed them to my family, because it was easier than to admit I fucked up my dream vacation.
3 yeaars later, I now have this feeling I want to go somewhere for couple of months, but I am also worried it will happen again.
Where did you go, anon? I think that might have to do with your experience.
New Zealand - I dont think it is about the country, but I am the problem.
There is nothing to do in New Zealand or Auckland except drink and do drugs or waste time. That's why all the young people leave and go to Australia or other places.
I did travelling north of Auckland. I remember how excited I was to get to Cape Reigna and went south back. My plan was to hitchike through both islands.
But when I got back to Auckland, I just couldnt go south. Got depressed as fuck
I pretty much did nothing notable after my first two weeks, only one day trip to Rangitoto, but that was it. Otherwise just booze, some drugs, some raves and many hours of self hating.
But I am the type of person, that just wont confide to somebody else I know in real life, so it was easier to just fake my vacation and lie about my experiences if somebody asked. Not sure if my family/friends suspect anything, but nobody said anything.
My plan currently is to take a bike and just go around Europe next year, but I have my doubts if it wont repeat and I will have to fake another vacation.
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without updating the page first.
>Living in New Zealand for over a month with no job
The only way I could imagine doing this would be to rent a van and go all over the country. Unless that was your actual plan... What were you thinking? Just go there and see what happens? It's not the most exciting country.
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Dunno if you're the problem man. I did some solo travel in EU and ended up boozing and doing drugs as it felt incredibly lonely (it was right after a breakup). Then went solo to Asia, made a whole bunch of friends that I still talk to, met some absolute qts and returned back feeling healthier and more content than ever. You have a certain character and predispositions, but the environment you're in greatly influences it. My advice would be to go to places where people are social and try to do things that involve others as that results in the most kino memories.
>Going to one country for a couple of months with no work there.
Sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you went to a really massive and diverse country like china or USA. Most people who go live somewhere else for over a month at a time tend to do some kind of work there just to stop themselves getting bored. There's a reason backpackers don't stay in any place for more than a week or so.
Yeah because you aren’t a 6’5” special forces giga chad
I am though.
>be me, (former) digital nomad
>older brother and I go on vacation to Ireland
>he barley has any money, about 300 bucks, I've got a little over 1900
>I try to conserve my money, only going half on hostels with him
>3rd day in, he is out of fucking money for blowing it on dancers
>asks if he can get money from me
>tell him no, the rest of the cash is going to be so we can go back in the next 2 weeks
>in the meantime, I worked on a website design project for a client overseas for about 700 bucks
>spend the next 3 days waiting for a transfer
>in those 3 days, he proceeds to walk around the fucking county just trying to get a job
>think he's retarded and will just end up exhausted from walking around
>he comes back to the hostel 3 days later
>tells me he got not 1, not 2, not 3, but fucking 7 different jobs in the span of 72 hours
>a handyman, a security guard, a cashier, another handyman, a furniture mover, a bartender, and finally another handyman job
>made a total of 550 dollars from fixing "nothing issues"
>just pretended to be a bouncer because he's slightly fat, made 80 dollars from that
>made another 60 bucks from moving a small flat into a storage unit
>worked as a cashier for literally 2 hours before getting fired for incompetence and sent on his way with $30 bucks
>did bartender along side the bouncer thing, earned another $42 from tips
>by the end of the 3 week trip, he left with more money then I did waiting for my project to pay
>used the last bit of my money to get a flight home with him
>night before, he blew almost all of it again on dancers and booze
>after the whole thing, I ask him how he managed to do that
>he just said "people always kind of need help, as long as you're clean and kind you'll be fine."
>got my money transfer 2 weeks later, after tax it was 669.
this was pre covid, but it killed my DN dreams
wtf was the point of this ramble? you got your easy money and paid very little tax from it. only issue was that you didn't have enough cash in buffer so you had to worry about your money while waiting the transfer. boohoo ten day wait ruined my digital nomad dreams.
because if he hadn't wung it and got a job we would've been stuck
Traveling is the ultimate Whitepill. This thread is an abomination
>t. someone who actually travels instead of just talking about it
more like JustBeWhitepill
Don’t circumcised burgermutts deserve some JBW having grown up in a JBB gynocentric pussy prison?
Not if you can manage to move out. Then it becomes a true escape, at least from what I can gather. Would love to get out of wherever I am right now somehow