Travelling without a passport

Hi sighsee,

I'm trying to settle a debate.

Hypothetically, if someone were to borrow a passport from a lookalike in order to travel, would they be able to do so? Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence? Any other fun ideas of how to travel without correct documents?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If there is a print and photo check by these automated computer you’re fucked.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it usually checked by some facial recognition software? That would suck for the hypothetical individuals.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's called using a fake passport this has been around forever. It can work but it's highly illegal, and if/when you are caught they essentially will throw everything they have at you and interpol does not fuck around. Depending on the country you could be up further shit creek if caught using a document that doesn't match you or the information held on file within your passport.

    >I'm trying to settle a debate.
    There is nothing to debate, traveling with documents not your own that do not represent you is illegal; especially a passport.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It being illegal is irrelevant. The question is if it's possible, and if so, how likely is one to get away with it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The question is if it's possible, and if so, how likely is one to get away with it.
        Yes it's called a fake passport, it's been around forever. It's highly illegal and no one can give you an honest answer since it depends. If a cop stops you on the street asking for your passport as a tourist, sees it is different that could fuck you HARD, like lol fuck you next 10 years in jail retard till they figure if you were smuggling drugs and check out to see who you really are.

        An airport stop could super fuck you on an interpol level, enjoy throwing your life away for a serious crime.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and if/when you are caught they essentially will throw everything they have at you and interpol does not fuck around
      Except if you're an Israeli Mossad agent.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good luck trying it in countries that check fingerprints. Which is most of the developed world now.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean? I was never required to submit fingerprints for my passport.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Especially this given how many countries have modernized retinal or finger print ID. What even is the point of this thread, it's on par with drug users who want to be told something different than the law.

      What do you mean? I was never required to submit fingerprints for my passport.

      Many countries require you to scan your finger print or submit a retinal identification now in order to be given a visa. Sure there are some smaller airports not equipped with it but after covid so many more have come to do this. They will for sure run your prints vs. any other times the passport has been run to see if it matches.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What if the passport has never been used by the owner?

        >The question is if it's possible, and if so, how likely is one to get away with it.
        Yes it's called a fake passport, it's been around forever. It's highly illegal and no one can give you an honest answer since it depends. If a cop stops you on the street asking for your passport as a tourist, sees it is different that could fuck you HARD, like lol fuck you next 10 years in jail retard till they figure if you were smuggling drugs and check out to see who you really are.

        An airport stop could super fuck you on an interpol level, enjoy throwing your life away for a serious crime.

        So suppose someone has no ID, how would they be able to travel between countries? Especially over oceans?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >please just tell me what I want to hear not reality
          Holy fuck you're retarded
          >What if the passport has never been used by the owner?
          What if the owner decides to sell another passport since he already sold it to you, your passport would be invalidated without you even knowing. They'd look up why and then ask how you are in another country while in theirs, enjoy shit city. Besides if demensions are off they will simply run a background check, it's entirely possible to get away with it, but if and when you get checked you're fucked.

          >So suppose someone has no ID, how would they be able to travel between countries? Especially over oceans?
          You illegally do so, or you do this wild and ~crazy~ thing called getting a passport or valid ID that allows for it. If you decide to do it illegally enjoy probably getting fucked hard down the line, not everywhere is america where they put you on a bus back to mexico and tell you to fuck off since not worth processing.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry to have upset you.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not the guy you're responding to but they are right that you seem to just want a particular answer.

              You can try to travel overseas on someone else's passport. Yes, it is possible to get away with it just like it's possible to get away with nearly any crime. However, there are huge risks and giant odds that this will work against you, especially when trying to cross a legal border between countries.
              >but
              >what if
              Do whatever, Anon.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So suppose someone has no ID, how would they be able to travel between countries? Especially over oceans?
          They don't. You need an ID to travel between countries legally, end-of. You have to provide this information to every country's border control / immigration services when entering a country.
          >A passport is required for all international travel. If you're traveling anywhere overseas, you need a passport to board an international flight and to enter the country.

          >but what if (lying for any reason)
          Yes, it is possible to lie. Just like it is possible to lie to a cop. It is possible to say literally anything. That doesn't mean it will go well for you with the border agent. It is possible a border agent would not catch you for any number of reasons - maybe the barcode doesn't scan right and they want to get you through the line, maybe they're tired and they don't check the picture, maybe their computer system is down and they are being lazy. I think you're seeking a bad faith answer because you're repeatedly stating "Is it possible, I don't care if it's illegal". Well, duh, yes it's possible. It's possible for me to shoot an apple off a man's head from 100' away. That doesn't mean it's likely or something I should try.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >At least I didn't have to give my real info out to ~~*them*~~!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek

      Is it usually checked by some facial recognition software? That would suck for the hypothetical individuals.

      I mean every country I ever went to takes the photo of my face and fingerprints when entering

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What were to happen hypothetically if somebody were to shit on the face of your lookalike's doppelganger?

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i would say it is impossible nowadays!
    >unless your are in some landlocked turd world shithole bribing everybody and their dogs.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not impossible, quite a few non large international airports will look at your passport and waive you through. I was in Dusseldorf last month and it was seriously just scan>state reason for visitation>length of stay>next.

      However I also have a shit ton of stamps in my passport so additional questioning probably was a non priority.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because you had a legit passport that scanned. That's quite different from what OP is trying to ask.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm saying it's possible to not get the full shibang depending where you go, but it's always different. If the passport is valid they may wave you through, they may ask for proof of funds, hell they may ask for a ticket of onward travel or not. The inconsistency helps play towards filtering out would be people like OP

          kek

          [...]
          I mean every country I ever went to takes the photo of my face and fingerprints when entering

          >why yes my vacations are to asia how did you know!

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            well you got me there I went to like 11 Asian countries, does EU not do this shit? I mean if you are going by plane. I want to go there but I figure it is probably just like the USA by now with all the morons and brown people

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              EU countries are super "it depends", again it's quite inconsistent depending on what country you have come from and said airport. sure they scanned the passport to check for validity but that was that, and I got a stamp after stating my business. Though my friend who went through frankfurt? Full on finger scan, pic, etc.

              It's 100% up to chance, again this works in their favor as border patrol because it throws people like OP who do this shit off.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Hypothetically, if someone were to borrow a passport from a lookalike in order to travel, would they be able to do so?
    As the entire thread notes, it’s a beyond dumb idea that is most likely to end in criminal troubles eventually, but sure, it happens once in a while.
    >Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence?
    I’m surprised nobody mentioned the American woman who murdered someone then flew to Costa Rica on her similar-looking sister’s passport who was recently arrested. She’s in jail now, yes, but before she was jailed she was abroad with false documents for something like a couple of months.

    Google it. Also, don’t bother trying it.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could get into some countries and probably get away with it. Colombia, Nicaragua and Malawi were all very lax when I entered by air. Many more countries than those three were almost on pre-computer era technology when I’ve done river or land crossings. At some level you’ll draw suHispanicions as a westerner at the really remote, really obscure land borders but you have to go way off track for that to happen.

    What is most likely to get you is actually airport security at your departing country, assuming you are coming from the USA or Europe. I would not try this stunt to get into somewhere with a reputation for strict borders either. USA, Canada, Australia, Singapore, Brazil, etc. will more than likely catch you. Brazil particularly since they have their Federal Police guys do border checks, they smell fear like dogs I’ve seen them pull all sorts of tricks. Once they had me come over (I was the only American crossing at a remote Amazon port) to verify if the US hundred dollar bills were real. Spoke perfect English and was very wordy about it, I could tell he was just trying to shake the guy who he was hassling’s tree by having a conversation the agent knew he wouldn’t understand. You are unlikely to keep your composure under that type of scrutiny, that’s what will be your undoing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You could get into some countries and probably get away with it. Colombia, Nicaragua and Malawi were all very lax when I entered by air.
      These are some of the worst places to do a fake passport as they are looking for people on them with drug smuggling.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This sounds like a horrible idea that is not worth the risk unless you're trying to escape a life-threatening situation as a last ditch attempt.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nooo don't do it
    What a bunch of pussies

    trv during crypto boom
    >do coke off some whores in philippines
    >leave 10 women with your white son in Japan who love white cock
    >smoke weed and blow it in a pigs(cop) face in thailand
    >yolo it and join the mile high club due to first class status
    >fully utilize white status to get out of harms way in poor countries
    trv post covid
    >ew scary to do things
    >uhh you might get stopped
    >yikes!

    What the fuck happened? Lord Miles needs to return and spread some chadness around.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not being a retard is being a pussy now?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >crypto
      >le miles redditard
      fuck off back to sighsee you absolute moron retard
      before you give out the muh no coiner seethe cope, i have a sniper bot that doesn't need any of your pajeet discord frogposting redditards to make money off of crypto

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's a Chad and you sound like a fag

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    An Indian hit and killed a person while drunk in Australia only a few years ago then took his friends passport and left Australia using it. We have computers with cameras, scanners and manual handlers. He got back to India and disappeared just fine.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      sir also creampied local aussie girls
      sir

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only time an Indian has cum on a white girl it's when he was going to music festivals and cumming all over random strangers
        The judge let him off by the way, saying as he comes from a country that didn't interact much with women he didn't know that sort of thing is bad.
        He's married with kids in Melbourne.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only briefly, he got picked up by the Indian cops on his wedding day or some shit and is currently fighting his extradition because Australia will be mean and racist to a poor street shitter Indian like him in jail. What's truly retarded is that if he just suckedit up and did his time, he would have already been out of jail and back home to shitsville India years ago due to the soft cunt judges in the state of Victoria. What a dumbass

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Plenty of countries like the whole EU allow you to travel without a passport, you just need an id card

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only if you are a EU citizen.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        True, but that’s only really an issue when flying, and even then the only people looking at your passport are airline staff, not immigration agents. There are no official passport controls at all within the Schengen area. I cross European borders overland without a passport all the time,* and I am not a citizen. I do carry my Schengen-area residence permit in my wallet, but I can’t think of the last time I had to show it to someone.

        *This could eventually bite me in the ass, of course, as residence permits don’t officially qualify as government. IDs, and I am supposed to have my passport on me when crossing borders. But in practice it’s never been an issue, and I have been doing it for years. I’ve also used my not-really-an-ID residence permit as an ID more than once, just not while traveling. I should try it at an airport sometime just to see what happens.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You obviously need a passport to get into EU in the first place, if you're not from there, even if afterwards there are no controls.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > You obviously need a passport to get into EU in the first place, if you're not from there, even if afterwards there are no controls.
            Obviously. And you need a passport to get into the EU/Schengen area from outside of it whether you are from there or not, as well. But if a hypothetical person without a passport is starting and ending within the EU/Schengen area it’s easy to get around, which was the point.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    People seem to have some strange ideas about how powerful machine-readable passports and border-immigration scans and fingerprint checks are. There’s no global database, and nothing ever gets written onto a chipped passport after it has been manufactured—it doesn’t record where you last scanned it, etc., and except for in those countries where you have to submit fingerprints with your passport application, there’s nothing visible to people scanning your passport that isn’t also printed in it. What border guards can check against is only info you gave them on previous visits that they’ve stored locally. So when my kid’s passport and prints are scanned by immigration at Boston Logan, for example, I get to see his previous passport pictures come up on the agent’s screen (they’re really cute—he was a baby), and that’s it, and I only see that because it’s not our first visit to that airport. I don’t see flight itineraries or addresses or anything like that, because they don’t have it on file.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      hmm well why not? I mean they for sure have the tech for this. I dont understand

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you have your eye bone structure 1:1 with the person you're impersonating, you're fucked.
    Most major airports have e-gates that can check your face for differences in facial structure between your passport and actual face.
    Smaller airports will just have people checking them but they are trained to check for the same features.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm having a hard time believing the 2"x2" out of focus polaroid taken by a complete idiot at the post office that left a thumbprint on the camera lens that is my passport photo produces anything that reliable. I guess if someone scrutinized your passport pretty carefully they'd notice something but to think this automated stuff is that reliable, I don't buy it unless the difference is very obvious.

      I'm a white hispanic so I get fucked with a lot entering the US, like they think I'm a Colombian trying to use a stolen passport or something.

      What would trip you up is they ask you questions only people who you are would know. The ones I get asked a lot are questions that have a follow-up, such as "where were you born? What hospital? What city, state and county is that in?" and "where did you go to high school? What was the name of the high school? What's the name of the town where that was? What was their mascot?" Such things would probably trip up a foreigner.

      I get this a lot when returning from poor countries that are illegal immigrant sources as that's suHispanicious in itself. If you were flying from a rich country to a poor one or between two wealthy countries that aren't known for being surveillance states, you'd probably get very little scrutiny.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    play paper's please

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