UK Bros

As a UK citizen born and living abroad having never been to the UK, I was finally thinking about getting my UK passport, but looking more into it, it seems like the requirement that a UK citizen must know you and verify your identity is quite difficult for those of us living outside of the UK, with no relations to current UK citizens. Even more so since the person verifying your identity CAN'T be related to you by either blood or marriage. So my father (a UK citizen, born in the UK, and currently lives in the UK) can't vouch for my identity, and since I have never been to the UK no one he knows in the UK can vouch for my identity either. Not to mention not just anyone from the UK can verify identity, they must be a member of a listed "profession", so if you don't fall into the classist bullshit definition of a "professional" you aren't good enough to verify identity, even if you are a UK citizen in good standing otherwise.

Should I just break down and visit the UK embassy in my country to ask someone in person what to do?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Email them first and see what they say.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Irish passport is better

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      My father wasn't Irish

      Email them first and see what they say.

      Yeah i'm currently waiting on a response but if I don't get anything soon I might just go to the embassy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I got an Irish Passport, and yes it was a pain in the ass and confusing. Proof of address was annoying, as I lived at home and so had no bills under my name and in this day in age 90% of suff that would be mailed to you anyway has gone paperless - and they all had to be less than 6 months old.

      As for the signing, I ended up getting my GP to sign it, luckily he had been my doctor since I was a little kid and vaguely knew him outside of work. Its worth it to get it though IMO

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >90% of suff that would be mailed to you anyway has gone paperless
        your bank sends you paperless statements to your account and they have your address on it. just print as a PDF if you need a paper version.

        https://i.imgur.com/IqycqYQ.jpg

        As a UK citizen born and living abroad having never been to the UK, I was finally thinking about getting my UK passport, but looking more into it, it seems like the requirement that a UK citizen must know you and verify your identity is quite difficult for those of us living outside of the UK, with no relations to current UK citizens. Even more so since the person verifying your identity CAN'T be related to you by either blood or marriage. So my father (a UK citizen, born in the UK, and currently lives in the UK) can't vouch for my identity, and since I have never been to the UK no one he knows in the UK can vouch for my identity either. Not to mention not just anyone from the UK can verify identity, they must be a member of a listed "profession", so if you don't fall into the classist bullshit definition of a "professional" you aren't good enough to verify identity, even if you are a UK citizen in good standing otherwise.

        Should I just break down and visit the UK embassy in my country to ask someone in person what to do?

        what is your other nationality? when were you born?
        have you checked this page:
        https://www.gov.uk/apply-first-adult-passport/what-documents-you-need-to-apply

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a US citizen, born after 1983

          and yes, I have looked at the documents I need. I have a copy of my father's birth certificate (which is also a pain to look up in the UK as the records are only partially digitized). I also have a copy of my parents' marriage certificate.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got my UK passport through one of my parents. It's quite easy so I don't what your reading.

    >Birth, death, marriage certificate of your entire family except siblings.
    >Recommendation letter of good character from someone unrelated to you. I think I asked my HS teacher or friend's parent in my home country.
    This was a decade ago but dunno what you're talking about with needing someone from the UK.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        what the absolute frick

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's the source of this shit? Is it not from the UK govt site? Just checked with someone else I know who got theirs two years ago and they didn't need to do that.

        https://www.gov.uk/apply-first-adult-passport/what-documents-you-need-to-apply

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.gov.uk/confirm-identity-online-for-passport-application

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pilot GODS top the list, as usual

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >computer programmer isn't on the list but bar owner is
        my fricking sides

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's classism

          You can learn to be a programmer, you can't learn to buy a bar. That requires land/property.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          A bar owner is in charge of a licenced premises

          These are all professionals that are in some way registered with and known to the government. It's why it seems so random and arbitrary.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        bahaha holy fricking shit what a fricking joke of a country
        has this even stopped anyone """bad""" from leaving the country?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's insane. In America, I think I just sent in my birth certificate and social security card with a photo and an address for where to send it.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have my US passport already, and i'm grossly aware of how much easier the process is.

          The UK passport photo requirements also differ from the US photo requirements, so i'm trying to find the best way to get a picture that meets the UK criteria without spending money renting an actual photo studio or something. All the US passport photo places only offer the US passport photo size, which is too small for the UK.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, you can probably go to the same countries with an American passport, so why give a shit.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because sometimes it's easier to use one over the other for visa requirements. It also makes it simple to prove citizenship if i ever needed to prove my UK citizenship, as I have no official proof of my citizenship currently.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't sound easier, if you have to jump through hoops in order to prove you're worthy of crossing imaginary borders.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Once I have it, you don't need to jump through hoops again, you can just renew without any issues.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                But then what will you do for attention.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably boast about my access to the NHS and other things brits like to do online.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                But do they have a preventive medical care system. One that encourages it's populace to be healthy, and not just be slobs that react to aliments. Otherwise, they're not special.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've heard GPs used to be the "go-to" choice, which is why "your doctor" is in the no accepted category now. Though apparently the role GPs used to fill has largely been taken over by dentists. Dentists in the UK are generally happy to verify your identity for 10-20£

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >willing becoming a subject to King Charles
    NGMI

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    UK being a meme country that requires the signature of your nearest publican to get a passport aside, OP is a complete pinecone who can't use the internet. There is a separate website with different requirements for people who are British citizens by descent, born to British parents living outside the UK.
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >since I have never been to the UK no one he knows in the UK can vouch for my identity either

      Yes they can, you're worrying too much about this. They will receive an email and all they need to do is confirm stuff like your date of birth and address, that's literally it. The list of professions is very flexible too, it is essentially just asking for someone with a job if you are creative with your wording. No one is checking up on people's professional qualifications, it's a simple email and confirmation of basic details. Just get anybody your dad knows in the UK and have them sort it out and don't worry about it.

      Keep up mate, we're all on about getting OP a passport which is separate to his obvious claim to citizenship.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Let's follow along then.

      I was born between 1983 and 2006 to a British father and non-British mother who were legally married at the time.

      https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent/born-between-1983-and-2006

      Looks like I'm automatically a citizen, with nothing else needed on my end, and the next step is just applying for a passport.

      There is a section for applying when not in the UK

      https://www.passport.service.gov.uk/filter/overseas

      Fill out the relevant info and here is what it says

      > If required, get someone to confirm your identity

      Then links me to the same identity confirmation page linked earlier

      https://i.imgur.com/lURLD6q.jpg

      https://www.gov.uk/confirm-identity-online-for-passport-application

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Looks like I'm automatically a citizen
        Lucky you, costs money and takes a fair bit of time if you have to apply for it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah I see. I won't go through the entire process and find photos and all that. I did see it said if required so whatever the case is ours was different. I didn't live in the UK, applied from the US.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i had the same problem when applying for my seamans discharge book (like a passport for merchant sailors) when i became a merchant seaman. basically the same requirements.
    usually people get a dentist or doctor to sign it problem is i never go to the doctors (i've been once in 15 years) and rarely go to the dentist and have never seen the same dentist twice anyway, and i didn't have anyone else to sign it. I asked if my cousin in law who is a detective could sign it but they said no.
    i phoned them up and they told me that i could instead send them a photocopy of my passport "verified" at a post office and counter-signed by the sub post master. thats a thing they do at post offices.

    I'd guess they don't do this for passports, but worth looking into anyway. Maybe they'd accept a verified copy of some official photo identity document you already have.
    the thing they are worried about is someone who isn't actually you stealing/using your identity.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It looks like I need to apply by mail. When applying by mail they ask for countersigned photos instead of the online application which requires someone verify your identity. Countersigning can be done by anyone in good standing in the community (or an active or retired "professional") with a UK, Irish, EU, US, or a commonwealth country passport.

      A slightly lower bar to pass.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      your seaman's what now
      surely they're having you on with that?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        discharge as in when you pay-off from a ship.
        merchant seamen have to log sea time in detail in the same way commercial pilots do flight time. for tax reasons, visas and for accreditation.
        It also allows british seafarers to go ashore from a registered vessel without a visa.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      your seaman's what now
      surely they're having you on with that?

      It's for tracking emissions :^)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Haha, he said seaman

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget about the discharge

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was thinking about getting the UK passport for when I move to the UK, but honestly probably just easier to "visit" under the Canadian passport and stay there. Not like they can deport a national anyway,

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea im tempted to do that as well.

      I haven't spoken to my dad in over a decade, but I know he lives in Wales at the moment. Might pay him a surprise visit and just stay for awhile eventually I'd know someone well enough to verify my identity.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off we're full and you're brown

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      UK (white) father
      USA (white) mother
      UK/US dual citizen (white) me

      nice try though

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They only accept boatwogs

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    get an italian passport

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      if I had Italian citizenship I would.

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