Let's say you're an American citizen abroad and you have lost your passport. You go to the embassy and you need a new one issued in order to get home.
How do they verify your identity? Social security number + driver's license? Or do they have some kind of computer system where all the info is stored?
They just assign you a new name and passport.
>How do they verify your identity?
You tell them your name, DOB, address, and any form of ID
>Social security number + driver's license?
This works
They literally just give you a bypass but it costs some cash. You can defer it if you say your wallet was lost
What if I just buy a stolen social security number, use the same DOB and name on a fake ID, couldn't I theoretically get a passport that way?
you have to go back pedro
most countries fingerprint you when you get there
>What if I just buy a stolen social security number, use the same DOB and name on a fake ID, couldn't I theoretically get a passport that way?
Neither SSNs nor whatever fake ID you purchase are proof of citizenship. Permanent noncitizen residents (green card holders) also get assigned social security numbers, among other things.
Yeah even I as an Europoor I have my own US social security number after I did an internship on a J visa. So you don't even need to be a permanent migrant. Nowadays I use my US social security card as a curiosity to show to my friends.
what if u lost ur id tho
you literally go through a background check answering things like
last lived location
last car registered
parents DOB and name
streets near you
so u could just fake all that
okay dweeb go try it and have your shit kicked in
as if dmw shaniqua would be able to trll
moron mentality
I have a friend who worked at US embassies as part of the diplomatic corps who said most thirdies are absolutely terrible at coming up with convincing backstories when trying to scam their way into the US, to the point of being comedy. Oh the best part is they get slapped with a 10 year ban on attempting to obtain a visa for providing false documents or statements.
They have rounds of verification, first is:
Ssn, DOB, and background database (I.e. when you apply for a loan and they ask you previous address, the govt knows where you've ever lived, all your relatives names, schools you've been to, types of cars you've owned, etc) for starters.
Then second round is:
Also your fingerprints, eye and face scan to match against the US govt biometric database.
Would be extremely unlikely for someone to bypass this as the case file includes pictures taken at the interviews so you can't just bribe someone to copy paste from the db.
>Also your fingerprints, eye and face scan to match against the US govt biometric database.
There is literally no such thing as a unified “US govt biometric database” containing all of this information. Fingerprints are used in criminal background checks, but these are not part of the passport process—citizens don’t supply CBP or DHS with fingerprints on entry, nor with passport applications. If they have your prints on file it’s either because you’ve had a prior criminal background check conducted by the FBI or because you’ve been arrested and printed by local law enforcement. And while they do take photos of us now at US immigration, and these photos are being integrated into a still far-from-comprehensive facial recognition apparatus, no US authority has got retinal scans on file.
If you can’t produce proper ID and/or prove citizenship, you pay an extra $150 to have a clerk procure a copy of the photo page of your missing passport from the records of the US passport center and arrival country’s immigration, if you’re in a country that scans on entry.
If you’ve lost your passport and don’t have the number, a) you’re an idiot and deserve all probing you may subsequently receive; and b) you may be subject to further investigation, some of which probably bears some resemblance to the paranoid nonsense with which this thread is absolutely stuffed.
The US is actually doing retinal and finger print cross checks now.
Last few times I flew back in just had my eyes checked, last month I left my passport on the plane without knowing it and couldn't get back in time once I realized I did. The CBP just scanned my eyes, said welcome back, and I walked on.
>There is literally no such thing as a unified “US govt biometric database” containing all of this information.
Topkek imagine saying this with such totally ignorant confidence.
Fingerprints are required for a passport and they can run them instantly at any embassy to verify you in person.
>t. Has done it
If they need to they get it through the Office of Biometric Identity Management (OBIM) who get it from local, state and fed govt agencies and private corporations. If you've ever had your fingerprints taken for anything ever in the US, then they have it.
Glowing without telling us you're a fed. How's serving Israel these days going for you?
There are requirements listed on the state.gov website if you lost your shit overseas. Better hope that shit was stolen because it doesn't look like they coddle retards who misplaced it.
>they coddle retards who misplaced it.
because they don't believe you lost it and suspect you sold it for thousands of dollars to a terrorist
I got a temporary (1 year) passport when my passport expired while traveling. It took only 24 hours, but of course - I had my old passport. I don't know the procedure if you lost it, but there is one. Happens a lot.
>How do they verify your identity? Social security number + driver's license?
The embassy in my home country requires Americans to provide proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate or prior passport (which would be difficult if you have lost your passport or had it stolen). I don’t know if the process indentical everywhere.
>Or do they have some kind of computer system where all the info is stored?
They do not, as a rule. Immigration at the country you’re in may have scans and photographs from your arrival, but not everywhere collects this data, this information isn’t automatically transmitted to embassies. It’s still a surprisingly clunky, non-streamlined process for foreign governments to get information about arrivals, which is usually taken from airline passenger manifests.
> don’t know if the process indentical
*I don’t know if the process is identical.
I lost my passport when I did a winter Europe trip in college. I had to go to the consolate in Berlin to get a temporary passport. I just had to show my driver's license, a copy of my passport, which I had printed out before the trip, paid the processing fee and took the new pics for the passport in their office. The whole process took less than 6 hours.
>a copy of my passport, which I had printed out before the trip
This. Do this. DO IT I SAY!!!
as someone who lost thier passport in Albania you don't just go to a embassy. if you want a new actual passport you have to go their they give you a shitty business card tell you to make a appointment online and do all the online paperwork b4 your appointment. then after you have your appointment you bring them passport photos pay for the new passport then wait.
Why do you need to wait weeks for a passport to get back to your home country? US citizens have a right to enter the USA, with or without a passport, though penalties may be levied for entering without proper documentation. The local consulate can coordinate with immigration authorities of the country you are visiting, so you do not get in trouble on the way out.
You are unbelievablely misinformed.