Is it true SighSee traveling in you 20s is just a meme? And that you should really be saving money, then go once you're in your 30s?
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Is it true SighSee traveling in you 20s is just a meme? And that you should really be saving money, then go once you're in your 30s?
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It's pretty common sense if you look at the big picture. Assuming you're not a trust fund kid, the dollar you're spending today would be two dollars tomorrow if you had invested it. Obviously it's an oversimplification but the point is mainly you're hampering your future wealth by spending capital that could have been invested instead. Let that snowball for ~10 years and you could probably travel on the dividends.
All of this is of course assuming you found an investment with decent returns, there is no recession/depression, or nuclear apocalypse. Alternatively, #yolo
Yes, compound investing is the key to becoming a rich old man. Then maybe my brats will be able to enjoy a higher standard of living, if I ever end up having some. Frick that shit. The son will probably come out gay, the daughter a mudshark. By the time I'm old enough for it to matter we'll have UBI or the whole rotten system will have collapsed.
compound interest** im moronic lol
No thanks, I'll worry about increasing my TC and latina sugar babies
I'm more or less in the same boat. I'm in my early 30s making pretty decent money. I just keep upskilling to grow those paychecks. I'm probably still going to retire later if I hadn't gone on all those trips throughout my life, but I don't regret spending a single cent.
why are americans so obsessed with BBC
Jews bombard young people with porn so that they develop sick fetishes, either autogynephilia (trans people) or cuckolding.
Cuckolding is all about degradation. It's about something horrible happening to you and the woman you're with. The Freudian death drive.
Cuckolding is to Americans what scat play is to Germans
BBC cuck porn is the skeletons carrying off women to ravish them in Hieronymus Bosch's "The Triumph of Death"
This is where our civilization is at currently
>Just keep squandering your youth and life so you can live better in a decade bro
Frick right off with that.
This is what terrifies me. I'm a full time travellee now, and I keep SighSee, but I can see that basically all of what I enjoy doing requires a high level of fitness and energy and a body without any creeks or pains. Is this whole 'less energy' thing avoidable? If I keep REALLY fit, will I be ok into much later age?
Yeah, staying fit will extend the time before age debilitates you. I didn’t exercise in my 20’s and felt the effects in my late 20’s starting with back pain, hip trouble after walking a few miles, and less energy. I counteracted it by making up for lost time, and two days ago I walked 15 miles and then did another 12 the next day with no trouble.
>felt the effects in my late 20’s starting with back pain
The upside of this is you no longer have that jittery "boy" energy. You move slower, you're naturally more poised. Chicks dig that.
You are quite an optimist
I'm also still young and SighSee but I think if you keep taking care of your body, you can go really old and still be capable. I've done alot of hiking trails, and there are always these old 50+ year old guys who seem to have it even easier than me. That's just because they have been doing it for so long. Age certainly slows you but people talk like there's a cutoff at a certain point where you just can't do certain things anymore, that's just them being lazy and making excuses for themselves.
health problems will surprise the frick out of you whether you are SighSee or not, however staying fit will reduce probabilities but some stuff is genetic and pure chance
In regards to losing energy as you get older:
1) 80% of people are overweight or obese, so they can’t answer your question accurately.
2) Shit will happen and blind side you out of no where. I don’t wish that for you or anyone, but it’s the way things often go, and the result is worse physical health. For me it was an adverse reaction to antibiotics that stripped my feeling of youth from me, if only i had known, but we never know what that thing time or place is for each of us
It reminds me of a twitter post I saw that was actually insightful
"Everyone tries to live their 30's like their 20's, until they have The Injury"
Don't go through a pathetic midlife crisis, life your life so you can age gracefully and without regrets
There are always atleast a few notable old guys who are still into super fitness and endurance activities. Who knows what their regime is tho. Is some genetics and just mental illness(not saying fitness is but maybe ultramarathoning is)
Keep one very important thing in mind about your body: your energy levels are mental, and you drain your mental energy the less you sleep.
In your 20s you think you're hot shit for staying up until 5am doing dumb shit but believe me, no matter how fit you are and how healthy you eat, you will feel the effects into your late 20s.
Don't be a fricking moron and stop the gay ass meme that sleep is for the weak. Our body sadly needs it, and if you ignore that need the sleep debt will accumulate (whoever says sleep debt doesn't exist is fricking coping) and you WILL slowly lose your precious mental energy over it.
Can you go full gymrat and perhaps keep engaging on the activities I mentioned on my post? Sure. But why would you want to be that guy in his late thirties still going to backpackers, trying to start parties, drinking the cheapest alcohol and hit on all the teenagers? At some point you will start to feel out of place. Again, do it on your twenties
>Be self-aware and live with dignity.
I know of multiple men who choose to live the bachelor lifestyle into their 50's. They happen to still be sleeping with women in their 20's, just like ever since they were their age. But they still somehow inspire pity.
And men who live self-indulgent lifestyles DO NOT age well. Constant drinking makes them look like shit, they're always out of money because girls will only touch their aged wieners in exchange for it one way or another.
You either live out that phase of your life in your 20's, or you missed out. It is NOT the same trying to pull it off when you're older. Usually it points to some gravely unmet emotional need. Like a mid-life crisis.
Shut the frick up homosexual. I’m gonna creampie 19 year old Thai hookers until I die naturally or of something more sinister.
Go be a family gay and become a tax cattle b***h to your 3 daughters
It's simple to stay fit and maintain energy for longer, although it is not easy. Mediterranean diet, three days a week of exercise and mobility every day (at least 10-12k steps, some cardio mixed in there), sleep hygiene, drink plenty of water, avoid sugar, avoid alcohol, avoid greasy food (fat is fine depending on the source, obviously salmon is different than deep fried twinkies). If it's too hard to give up one of those things then give yourself a cheat day to keep it in moderation. Go to the doctor once a year for a tune-up (unfortunately sometimes you might be limited by genetics, like high cholesterol or whatever, in which case they can give more specific advice or medications to help).
The one everyone sleeps on though is cognitive health. Do mental aerobics. Talk to others, read books, do crosswords and sudoku puzzles, have healthy hobbies that aren't just buying shit (think chess, learning instruments, even dancing is great for strengthening neural connections). Reduce screen-time and time spent doing mindless bullshit. Try to have a job that is challenging but not insanely stressful / will follow you home and boost cortisol (unfortunately this one we might not have as much control over, but if you are killing yourself at work and it's taking up too much headspace you might seriously consider taking a paycut for not only quality of life, but longevity of life).
Also listen to this. Just because you make it to late 30s and are more youthful than your age-ridden friends because you did all the aforementioned shit, does not mean you will fit in with people in their 20s doing stupid bullshit because they still have time on their side. Be self-aware and live with dignity.
>Do mental aerobics.
this is an important one I've noticed. if you're isolated, I.e. you work remotely or play vidya and never leave the house, it's easy for social skills to deteriorate, we can become more awkward, neurotic, and prone to mental illnesses. My proof is anecdotal, seeing many adults becoming shadows of their former self's with increased isolation, and also the scientific fact that people who know a second language have lower rates of alzheimers.
Es bien importante aprender una segunda lengua. Asi pueden ir al pais donde se habla ese idioma y puedes decirles a las prostitutas que no vas a pagar la tarifa touristicas
would you rather go on a bunch of fun low budget vacations for 10k in total in your 20s and make memories forever, or have 50k from that in your 50s and spend it on some overrated shitty cope car
what argument are you even trying to make you fricking teenager
nta but you’re clearly being dense for (You)s
Sad
oh so he meant to actually ask a dogshit hypothetical. ok.
>NTA
amazing what Reddit did to this place, truly. frick you too
>the dollar you're spending today would be two dollars tomorrow
10 years ago everything was half the price, so it is all the same.
Shut up you fricking israelite
"Money magically doubles. The market continuously grows"
You're a fricking moron. I travelled for literally 50% of the cost 15 years ago because the economy is so fricked everything is more expensive now and currency fluctuations. If i waited until I was old like now it would cost me twice as much
Go travelling when you want if you cam afford it. Difference is in your 20s you're a frickhead who will get too drunk. 30s you're less a frickhead and can balance things a bit more. Insightful woowwww
Your insightful comment also works if you replace the words wealth/dollar/capital with the word time.
>just sock 10000$ away in inaccessible investment vehicles where it cant be used in an emergency
>in 10 years youll have 16000$, which back-corrected for inflation is like 8000 when you started
Why the frick are boomers so goddamn stupid, day of the pillow cant come soone enough
How much do you want to bet in 10 years we'll see the beginnings of "air travel is solely for the rich because you have to offset your carbon footprint by paying 9000$ carbon tax on a 1000$ flight"
In 30 years commercial economy class wont exist anymore
And in 50 years our grandchildren will be literally tied to where they were born without WEF dispensation to migrate because "migration is bad for the environment"
you sound exhausting to be around, life is going to be ok
here we go, "the adults in the room"
libs are now so unhinged that they call you a coward for mentioning the soaring crime rates in our cities
not him
though frick him for fedposting
This is what happens when your IQ is below 80, have never had a job or kissed a girl, and get all your information of the world outside your mom's basement from /misc/.
>climate change is real, and we will have to make significant reductions in the availability of cheap energy to fight it
>global mobility for the working class via air, rail, and roads is based on the availability of cheap energy sources like diesel and gasoline
>its a conspiracy theory to claim carbon taxes are going to make cheap international travel thing of the past because... it just is okay!
You can only pick 2 rabbi
Psychologically it's usually better to embark on things like that in the present instead of waiting for your perfect future situation to do it. Who knows what the future will hold? I'm sure there were people in 2019 who were putting off their big trip until the future but suddenly had to wait 2-3 years for covid stuff to blow over.
>How much do you want to bet in 10 years we'll see the beginnings of "air travel is solely for the rich because you have to offset your carbon footprint by paying 9000$ carbon tax on a 1000$ flight"
Sort of off topic but the phrase "carbon footprint" itself was invented and popularized by oil companies shifting the blame for pollution onto normal people. I wouldn't be surprised if leisure flying returned in 2-3 decades to being an upper class luxury like it was originally.
Yes you also miss out on money made while you're gone
>the virgin stay at home saving your cucked wages vs the chad earn more money
+35 here. I coomed over SEA and Brazil while being basically destitute and sleeping on the streets sometimes. I now have a nice job and good money and could travel anywhere now with comfort
DO IT IN YOUR TWENTIES
It all hinges on energy. You can have all the money in the world but it won't give you youth. I have a mate with my similar age/money but he never travelled. Every time I regale him with my cooming stories he begs me to get on a plane to Thailand and recreate those stories.
He's too thick to understand I'm not the same person anymore. I don't have the bloody patience to pretend to be interested in a hollow bawd to frick her later, I don't have the energy to chat and engage every traveller in a backpacker to make friends and start an awesome buddy group and I surely don't have the back to sleep in a backpackers anymore.
Moreover, I knew I had the time to waste, the body to drink/fight/frick and start a real-life in my thirties, you dont want to wait until you travel on a mid life crisis or try to reinvent yourself on your forties, do you?
bingo, where would you have your last hoorah?
I've been to:
>SEA (VN, TH, PH)
>Japan
>Bulgaria/Turkey
>Costa Rica/Colombia
I was thinking of India, but Brazil/Argentina/Chile also sounds intriguing.
to add on this I think traveling for the right reasons and for the right people will make the difference.
200 people can watch the same movie, play same game, or hear same speech and hear 200 different versions of what they saw/heard. Everyone gets different experiences
If you go to just cum everywhere or just take instagram photos to get clout its pointless, you can do that anywhere.
If you go to try to actually get culture shock and expand your mind of what you thought the world is, it is worth the ROI.
Some places are so unique and different (japan) it's the only place in the world like it. 20's or 30's it doesn't matter when you do it, as long as you can do it without having to worry about career stalling
I actually found Turkey to be most shocking. Also why I'd like to see India or a South Asian country. "Africa-lite" if you will.
My last cooming- tier trip was Brazil. I'm actually preparing to do Europe for months but it's with my fiancee in a more boring boomer setup.
Before I can give you a suggestion, it's more important to know your priorities, if your trip involves getting laid, Argentina would be the right place, but if you're thinking of exploring another's civilization o would say do the long India trip. It saddens me that based on your past, the best suggestion would be Russia but alas now it's not the best time
I want to see China, Russia, and Iran the most...lucky me!
Tell me more about Brazil and South America, What do you do about safety?
>love cooming but never had trouble in brown/asian countries
You are well traveled and already did CR/Col so I don't know what new perspectives I can give you, but here I go anyways. I happen to have family in Latin America myself.
Remember that at its core, South America is a western region. Sure, way poorer and dangerous but still with a western mentality. I say this to explain that, beyond language issues, you won't have that wtf clash of civilization/mentalities you might have experienced in interactions with Asians or Muslims. Some people don't like that but other travelers crave for it. Bottom line, you're going to a cheaper and more dangerous Spain/Florida, not Mars.
This works the same regarding safety. Similarly to any big city, there are no-go areas and good ones. It's just that the stakes are multiplied by 10. Prepare to find areas in Buenos Aires/Sao Paulo that are basically Zurich or Oslo, but go to the wrong ones and you are in Mogadishu. It's your job to be aware of those hidden lines searching online, talking to locals, etc. I'm most cities it will be easier such as "north good, south bad" but there are places such as Rio/Bogota that are infamous for having favelas right next to safe areas.
To close it, we both have been to SEA. I don't know you, but on Bangkok/PP/Saigon I walked at very late hours absolutely smashed and no one dared to approach me cuz I'm white-looking (and I'm quite a manlet, not intimidating at all) but any time I tried to buy anything people would try to scam me all the time, even people I had known for weeks and you would think we are already friends. I had to haggle for every single purchase, it was exhausting. South America is the polar opposite: everyday people will be nice to you, but cross one of those imaginary lines and you are suddenly in a raffle for a free mugging/kidnapping or worse. Maintain a common sense of where are you going and who are you dealing with and you will be fine. Good luck friendo
Thank you fren
Have you seen India? I feel it will be a much more enriching experience.
However, I've only been to SA with girlfriends or family. I haven't properly been able to tame the wid chicas, which is enticing. How is the dating scene in SA?
>How is the dating scene in SA?
Well, there'd be an entire thread you could look at, but it seems the latino janny has gone back to nuking all Colombia threads, after leaving the previous one to hit the bump limit and die of its own accord.
>Similarly to any big city, there are no-go areas and good ones.
>Prepare to find areas in Buenos Aires/Sao Paulo that are basically Zurich or Oslo, but go to the wrong ones and you are in Mogadishu.
The exception to this is Medellin. The whole city is a dangerous shithole, even the wealthy areas full of foreigners.
Or just don't be an out of shape useless frick and you'll have plenty of energy to travel a lot in your 30's, 40's, and maybe even 50's. Spend some time on less popular hiking trails and you'll be surprised how many older people you'll see mogging the young people.
"The injury" is a cope to just give up most of the time. I'm 37 and have had two broken bones, several fractured, hamstring injury, neck and back issues from being rear-ended by some old frick doing 60 in a 35 when I was stopped. Yea it all acts up and hurts like a b***h sometimes but modern medicine is amazing and I push through it to keep doing what I want. A lot of those older people have probably had "the injury" as well. Willpower goes a long fricking way.
No matter how you put it you will frick more easily in your twenties unless you have insane aging genetics and look like you are actually twenty five at thirty five, something like Brad Pitt. Most of the guys who claim they are younger actually look their age or worse. I've seen these types at hostels, etc. They think they still got it and that they are above creepy forty year olds with no social awareness, but they're one step away from that. Live your life now. You can still frick a lot in your thirties, but you will not have the same experience, the same way you will never relive your teenage years and if you pissed them away you got to cut your losses and move on.
I said nothing about fricking you moronic coomer.
>You don’t have the same energy in your early 30s than in your 20s
Are you fat, idiot or american?
I might understand if you said 40s, but in your 30s with no kids, I feel pretty much the same or even better (with a lot more money) than in my 20s.
>your 30s with no kids
What a sad life. Imagine bragging about this
Whats the alternative? A wife, sexless marriage and kids? Or a couple of half filipino kids you plugged in to a few chicas in dumaguete?
>A wife, sexless marriage
Low T anons are subhuman
No one cares about your ugly stupid kids
Based
Anons itt really think we care about their chinlet goblins
20s is more fun since you have high energy and can associate with other youth, 30s is more fulfilling since you understand the world more and can appreciate the freedom you have and experiences you are able to enjoy.
The most valuable thing you can ever make are memories, not money. However you need the money to make the memories, which means you need to balance your goals.
Live for the moment as gay as that sounds anon. You could save All your money up and just end up dying and never have experienced anything. Make the memories in your 20s of doing spur of the moment shit. Travel with extreme comfort in your 30s. Being young is the time to actually do crazy shit since you have no responsibility. It’s just money after all.
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Turning 31 in a few months and planning a vacation. I've travelled a lot at a young age. Right now I have about 5 weeks of vacation just piled up to use. Because I've been able to travel the World at such a young age there's no desire to really want to go anywhere so I've been racking my brain these past few weeks trying to think of what to do or where to go. I would say though that you're missing out massively if you start travelling in your 30's. I would say 20's is the sweet spot because those were the most fun times I had and I can't see myself doing any of those trips again as I get older. I think travelling with children is stupid and should be avoided. They won't enjoy a bit of it unless it's something they want to do.
So at 32 with 30k in the bank I can't travel and enjoy myself? I'm fit, athletic and more wise than I was at 22...
>So at 32 with 30k in the bank I can't travel and enjoy myself?
>and more wise than I was at 22...
I think you missed the point of my post anon. I'm saying that someone who chooses to only travel in their 30's has missed out on a number of great experiences in their 20's that they will never get to experience again. Instead of having saved up people should enjoy those trips and experiences. The only downside is the one I'm facing wherein I'm struggling to find the motivation to travel since I've visited everywhere I've wanted to already.
Very glad to have travelled in my early 20s, happy to be investing in a family and future in my ladder 20s. Vagabond life has its time but I’d rather have resume credentials and money to live international while raising kids
Travelled extensively in my early 20s and do not regret it one bit. You really do change (personality-wise) as you grow older. I can't believe some of the dumb stupid hilarious shenanigans I got up to when I was traveling through Asia at 20 turning 21.
Normally, I think the whole “do X in your 20s and Y in your 30s” meme is moronic, but in this particular case I do think it’s probably true IF you’re unmarried, childless, and have the money. Leisure travel is kind of pointless until you’re in your late 20s/early 30s at least or until you have some money. Travel for the military or travel to traffick guns into 3rd world countries are different stories.
>And that you should really be saving money, then go once you're in your 30s?
Why not save money in your 20s and trv at the same time? Why stupid thread is this
I don't understand this advice at all. What is the dichotomy? You can travel and work. When you're in your 20s backpacking, camping, etc are all more appealing so it's easier to afford anyway. I work a professional job but I've been to Japan, HK, Thailand, Turkey, Italy, Germany, Holland, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan. Doesn't feel like I'm having to 'miss out'.
To be fair, I am delaying relocating to Taiwan on the gold card scheme for a couple of years (when I'll be in my early 30s) but that's driven by other timelines.
You can travel and work if you're from a developed country, have a job that requires some qualification and have cash to spare.
A Western European has 5 weeks of holidays and if employed by the state or state-like enterprise they can take unpaid sabbaticals once or twice a decade.
An American would need to be paid much more to do the same (and they are actually paid more), as they have fewer holidays and days off, trips of multiple months will require him to have more cash saved upfront because things like healthcare can be tied to your employment.
A Japanese can consider himself lucky if he can take two additional days off after Golden Week or Obon because being away from your company for long means that you're not important to the company and therefore unsocial and expendable.
Bro you have had like one good holiday a year that's not fricking traveling.
Sorry for not being clear - I did all that this year.
That's a point I hadn't considered. I am in Europe and work remote for a biotech company. Probably close to the best option for travel/work.
My advice is to travel whenever possible and as much as possible. Money you invest for the future can not buy memories or experiences from the past. As each year goes on, every destination becomes progressively more and more soulless due to gentrification, overtourism, shops closing, buildings being demolished, or political efforts to "clean up the area" in general. In the future, places you want to visit can become relatively inaccessible for tourists due to political tensions, wars, or natural disasters. When you are in your late 20s/early 30s, you are going to be bogged down with work commitments, social/romantic/childcare commitments, plans to buy/renovate a house, bills for rent/mortgage/insurance/taxes, plans to save for retirement, etc. Whereas in your late teens/early 20s, you generally have more freedom with your time and money and should take advantage of it while you still can.
The shops closing one hurts when I look at news about Japan. It seems like so many old time stores and arcades are shutting down lately
It's even worse when they're replaced with copy-paste stores found all over the world.
It used to be American and European chains but nowadays the Chinese are getting to it as well.
This. I hate the fact that I became so committed to learning Russian but my parents wouldn't let me go with my buddy who was from there when I was mid/late teens. Then the scamdemic happened, and right after that the war. Of course I could still "go", but flights are double or triple the cost and I would hate to be drafted or incarcerated for being a westerner.
This. I am just now getting into teaveling in my 30s, wish I went sooner. My priorities were school and a job, but I isolated myself for my job for too long. Thankfully I learned from my mistake. Now I am playing catch up with it in my 30s. Dont be reckless, but also its great to see the world outside the bubbles of our homes.
I'm 32. Making good money and thinking of quitting and going to Thailand for 3 months to train (I've kickboxed for years and always wanted to go train there).
But worried that I won't have a good job when I get back to USA... Advise?
Obtain a marketable skill.
This. Imagine it's the 80s and you were in your 20s and could have visited California but you didn't because you wanted to make more money
Now you have all the money you want to travel but California is now a burning dumpster fire
In your 20s you don’t mind slumming it in rotten little hostels and moving around in cramped rickety buses. You don’t have much to spend and it’s fine. You meet lots of other penniless wasters and have a blast.
In your 30s you have more cash. You also have less tolerance for grotty accommodation. Also stuff that appealed to you when you were younger would now just be tragic. Which is why you went to those clubs etc in your 20s, anon, right? Picking up local cuties? Staying up until 5am drinking lager with buddies? Yes?
40s and 50s seems to be peak these days. If you keep your fitness and health in check you can go anywhere and do anything and you have stacks of cash.
60 plus is when you start slowing down and find cruising attractive.
Don’t end up like my relative. Died in his 90s worth a million quid and had been within 20miles of his hometown for 99% of his life. Thought a day at the beach was good enough annual holiday. What a waste.
Quality post
this has to be the laziest way to harvest (you)’s I’ve ever seen. Just sniping a post that got attention and making a whole thread about it. Go frick yourself op.
Why it had almost the bump limit on SighSee and people on SighSee obviously are interested in the discussion too
20s: stay in $10 a night hostel bunk bed. Buy the dumb college thots beer and creampie them.. Multiple of them. Don't pull out, just cream their tight pussies.
30s: stay in $30 a night hostel bunk bed or private room. meet stupid tourist college girls, buy them $10 beer or $30 dinner. Frick their tight pussies and creampie them. Don't pull out.
This is hot. Image coomed to and text disregarded
Lol. The amount of young woman traveling solo is already low as frick, then the amount of actually attractive ones even lower. Then of those the ones who actually want to hookup is absolutely abysmal. Not even mentioning the logistical issues that would push away the more prudish ones.
People are always telling stories about this shit, I don’t know if I believe them.
10 years ago /rv/ had people actually travelling
now it's all coomers larping
is this a recent thing? I fricked a bunch of hostel bawds 5-10 years ago before I switched to hotels
Not sure?
Just a fact that most girls travel with family or their boyfriends and attractive girls typically don’t backpack in hostels solo. Not to mention the massive amount of single men of any age in any hostel making difficult for one on one time with a girl. Also there’s a growing proportion of women that aren’t attracted to men.
Not saying it’s impossible at all but I’ve only ever heard of tall extroverted white dudes getting hostel pussy and they exaggerate anyways.
Also this is coming from a dude who’s done the give them alcohol shit, if they don’t like you sober than they probably don’t like you tipsy.
wrong
t. doesn't travel
30 - 40 are still young depending on how fit you are
Never wait
Hope I remember how to do this right
Extremely ironic that SighSee can have an on-topic, funny, and insightful thread while the SighSee thread almost immediately derails into a /misc/-tier debate over whether you should have kids or not.
>comes to thread where people discuss what they plan to do with their lives
>hurr why are you talking about children?
Whether or not you have them pertains to the subject of the thread.
I don't even know why homosexuals come to this website and get upset that it's full of right-wingers. You sort of knew that from the beginning, didn't you? Like flying to Korea and complaining that you're surrounded by asiatics.
Sorry reddit gays, you can't have your cake and eat it too. This place is fun because you get to say mean but honest things you can't say anywhere else. It's been shown over and over again that online spaces like that inevitably turn far-right. If you want your curated politically correct discussions, you already know what to do.
>full of right-wingers
SighSee is the most liberal board on SighSee, and I don't mean leftist.
Incel
I'll tell you what i did.
I started working right at 20 when I finished undergrad. I was always making reasonably good money, like 70-90k depending on the job. I started lifting and investing alot. 100k Net Worth by 24. I took some reasonable vacations, went out with friends, but didn't do the whole "travel the world thing". I also learned how to pull local chicks in town, basically had a great sex life my whole 20s without needed to get shitfaced or travel to Europe/Asia.
Importantly, I realized that kids are not something that fit into my wants or goals in life either.
Mid-late 30s now. I'm now married to a fantastic woman. We are a DINK (double income no kids), childfree couple. We are super rich, just from compounding interest. We both make 150k and own a nice place in a nice area. We are so financially free we can't even spend all our money. We travel a shit ton on first class, nice resorts, great food, etc. Sex life is awesome. We have a dog but hire a dog walker lol.
I really feel like I'm living the dream, every stage of my life has been awesome. But i worked hard in my 20s and discovered myself - not from running away from my problems but by overcoming them.
To summarize:
- work early in your 20s. Start earning compound interest from a young age, you will be super wealthy later on.
- everything in moderation. Spend some money and enjoy yourself but make sure that you save and invest.
- learn about yourself, running away from your problems doesn't fix anything.
- find a partner with similar goals and outlook
-don't have kids (people have a hard time with this one. I dont judge people who have kids but for me personally im quite happy with our decision. And financially it is a huge burden)
- basically have unlimited money in your 30s onwards to really enjoy travelling and life in general.
Intelligent white people should reproduce. If you have all the money in the world as you say, there's no reason not to. You can just park them at their grandparents' whenever you get the urge to be alone or whatever, they'd be happy to look after them.
Mid-30's is not too late to correct your mistake.
We just don't want to. I don't think people who don't want kids should reproduce, regardless of their intelligence or ethnicity. Deep down, we both feel good knowing we are not bringing another life into the world. The feeling is deep within us so we listen.
Nothing stopping you from having more kids, though. Neither of us are the b***hy r/childfree types we just choose not to have any of our own.
So you're going to spend middle age doing whatever you feel like, as if you were grotesque overgrown children? I hope you don't regret it. You may be able to have children later in life, but your current wife won't.
this site larps so fricking hard for pro-children lol
to the op of this dogshit discussion, keep doing what makes you happy. i don't give a frick what you do, and the other two idiots don't either.
absolute seething
Ironic considering that large part of the userbase has hardly ever had sex, and then a good part has never seen a vegana at all. But then again it is like scrawny, ugly morons worshipping huge, ripped men and going all into 'muh masculinity' when they have the testosterone levels of a fifty year old woman.
If you don't like the people here, nothing's stopping you from going back to r*ddit
I've been here for twelve years.
It's 100% what people, men especially, worry about as they get older, if they will be able to pull women. There's nothing stopping you from seeing nice architecture, talking to people and exploring even if you're in your 60's. Most people here fricked up at some point and have massive FOMO.
TRT is magic bro.
You mean as anti-aging? If you're thinking I have low test, I can tell you I've fricked loads of women, and I'd want kids, but I'm too selfish to settle somewhere for eighteen years to raise a kid. I think it becomes worthwhile if you have a son and they hit their teens as you can actually do cool stuff with them or guide them into prestigious careers, but all that responsibility, hard work, blah blah shit bores me to bits, and even if you do everything right your kid might just end up becoming such rotten fruit you might as well disown them. This is why back in the day they'd have frickload of kids, and that's only counting the lot that got past the childhood. Maybe one or two of them would be really good sort, rest of them would be rejects or flawed versions. People who bank on kids forget that most off spring are very LIKELY to be frick ups. Either none or something like ten is what I'd go for.
This site got inundated with larping tradcels after 2016. If they are actually married it’s probably a dead bedrooms scenario and then when they get divorce raped start changing their worldviews
Overgrown children? Travel, social life, sex life, hobbies aren't children's activities.
How many kids do you have? As i said before feel free to have as many as you want, im not against kids at all. But my life is my life so i'll do what i want.
Thanks, we will. IRL it's not that uncommon to not have kids and it's getting more and more common. Nobody under 50 cares. Other than Amish people, 0,1, or 2 kids is accepted.
SighSee gets mad about it though.
They ignored the entirety of my detailed post answering the OP's post, and focused in on the one part about kids. Hopefully people read my whole post too.
Maybe. DINK couples are quite common at the higher IQ end of the spectrum (me and wife are both 120+). Being way smarter and more aware than average can suck. We also don't care about the future or anything else, ultimately all that matters is being happy in our own bubble of life. There's definitely a selfish gene in smarter people (and i dont say selfish as a bad thing). But we just don't care about the guilt tripping arguments (smart people need to reproduce for others benefit etc.)
>DINK
I'm SINK
>Overgrown children? Travel, social life, sex life, hobbies aren't children's activities.
Yes. Children do 2/3, if not 3/3 of those
>How many kids do you have?
None of these people actually have children they're just shut-in incels larping
Astral projection from someone who’s frustrated
Children make people happy. They give life a purpose beyond mindless accumulation. What's going to happen to all your cash if you die in a car accident? What would it all have been for?
Watching your kids grow up will be the joy of your life. If you deprive yourselves of this, you'll always have that "what if" in the back of your mind. There will always be that cognitive dissonance, and as you age you'll continually need reassurance that you did the right thing. Your wife certainly will. It is a derangement of nature to deprive a woman of the opportunity to be a mother, and immoral for you to lead such an impressionable creature down a path so detrimental to them.
I'm sorry if I come off preachy, but it is the very definition of "unnatural" for healthy, fit, intelligent parents not to have children. The reason the world is so disordered today is that capable people are not having children, while human garbage multiplies like vermin.
I can't shake the feeling you're a troll.
>The reason the world is so disordered today is that capable people are not having children, while human garbage multiplies like vermin.
Maybe because smart people don't want to create more suffering.
>What's going to happen to all your cash if you die in a car accident? What would it all have been for?
You can always set up a will and give the money to someone. I don't see why this is a problem though, if you die you're dead and are unable to worry about this. Might as well be asking why live to then die.
>Watching your kids grow up will be the joy of your life.
Many things bring joy to your life. Humans have developed entire areas full of different forms of physical and mental activity that can be a lifelong journey. Having children is one of the most basic ones, but certainly not the only one.
>It is a derangement of nature to deprive a woman of the opportunity to be a mother
It is a derangement to be a naturalist. Humans in their "natural" state kill and rape to get what they want, but that doesn't make it right.
Men have an intense beast-like desire to have sex no matter what, and women have an intense beast-like desire to breed, true, but they're both beast-like desires yet society only considers one to be harmful while the other one is celebrated.
> it is the very definition of "unnatural" for healthy, fit, intelligent parents not to have children
It is. There's no moral weight to unnatural things though, you're using a man-made machine to post this and it's not morally wrong to use it just because it's not part of nature.
>The reason the world is so disordered today is that capable people are not having children
Capable people can have "better" children, but we need to stop fetishizing financial success and "intelligence". Plenty of "smart" people are actually lacking empathy, resistance to adversity and living in the present, all necessary in a functional human society. Qualities "incapable" people tend to have and "capable" people tend to lose over time. Also, "capable" people are less likely to scrub toilets or break their back in a farm.
This is a whole different discussion but we need to stop glorifying and moralizing nature.
>It is a derangement to be a naturalist. Humans in their "natural" state kill and rape to get what they want, but that doesn't make it right.
>There's no moral weight to unnatural things though, you're using a man-made machine to post this and it's not morally wrong to use it just because it's not part of nature.
(You)
Unfathomably based and live in the now pilled
>There's no moral weight to unnatural things though
But there is weight to what is "natural." It's not some arbitrary bullshit people decided to make up one day. The concept of what is "natural" came about through a close observation of human nature over thousands of years.
At the end of the day, you're an ape and you can't just turn off the instinctive need to have children, no more than you can will yourself into not feeling hungry.
That's the problem with today's society. All these new ways of living, people thinking they know better than what's worked for thousands of years. And they wonder why everyone's so confused and unhappy.
My mom worked at a nursing home for years. She hasn't met one "child-free" old lady who hasn't bitterly regretted it. It's sad what these women come to, in order to satisfy that need to give maternal affection. They get way too attached to other people's kids, their nephews or even randos they happen to see on a regular basis. They get upset when they're parted. When they're not around, they sit around yelling at the TV, or doing crossword puzzles. These women have nothing to live for. Is that what you want for your wife?
You may make a distinction between you and r/childfree people, but you are ultimately falling for the same israeli propaganda, and even spreading it. Shame on you.
What a sad life it must be for middle-aged people without children and without God. It's quite the worldview you have! The world is too terrible to bring children into it. We must console ourselves with endless working and spending, sucking, fricking, accumulating, cooming and consooming. What a sad way of looking at things. I want no part of it.
If you and your wife took your nihilist beliefs to their logical conclusion, it would make more sense for you to overdose on heroin tonight.
True
>At the end of the day, you're an ape and you can't just turn off the instinctive need to have children, no more than you can will yourself into not feeling hungry.
NTA but feeling hungry is an elementary feeling that comes from your body requiring food.
The natural, elementary feeling is not to have a kid, but to not be alone. Saying "wanting a kid to be raise and have him take care of me in my latter days" is akin to saying craving caviar is a natural feeling.Just look at how pets who are castrated and have never had kids live a perfectly happy life due to their masters taking care of their every physical and mental needs. Appeals to nature are fricking moronic when you don't know where nature stops and society starts.
We did a lot of shit over the course of thousands of years that were backed off by literally nothing, were absolute shit takes and many people paid the price dearly for that. Case in point : fricking mercury and how it was used as a medicine from practically everything. They used to give fricking calomel to babies who would then tear their own skin due to the rashes they had, as the mercury literally melted their brains. So no, I don't think people "knew better".
>My mom worked at a nursing home for years. She hasn't met one "child-free" old lady who hasn't bitterly regretted it.
Most of these old women don't want babies they can lactate on. They just want company. The most reliable way to not be alone used to be having a family that could take care of you. They may attribute that, just like you do, to "maternal affection" because it's what obvious to them, but the core feeling is : they're alone.
>israeli propaganda
The israelites are precisely the kind of people that want you to believe that nature explains everything and that you should follow your compulsions like an animal without thinking twice about whether they are meaningful or not. Which was you're advocating, and there is nothing more nihilistic.
>you're an ape
Sure we are, but reducing yourself to your nature is short-sighted.
> the instinctive need to have children
Our instinct also makes us act violent around other people who we see as threats, and we also feel like raping women we find attractive, but we still manage to suppress those, because they are deemed inappropriate by the society we built.
>no more than you can will yourself into not feeling hungry.
Hunger is a basic need, breeding isn't. I get your point though, it's a human need.
I am not saying it's wrong, but in the same way people manage their need to rape by jerking off, or the need to kill by hunting, there are other ways of managing the need to breed. It's not a moral imperative to blindly follow your ape instincts, it's just the default state and by no means represents a higher moral ground.
>And they wonder why everyone's so confused and unhappy.
People have always been unhappy and have always wondered why it is so. It certainly got way worse post Industrial revolution, but every generation has found a way to cope according to the era. Let's not forget people have been b***hing about the newer generations since the Greeks.
(cont)
>These women have nothing to live for.
People are born with nothing to live for. Having children is one way to have something to live for, but it is not the only one. Refer to my previous post, I already mentioned this. People fill that void with work addictions, children, starting a business or a charity, joining a church, becoming pro-level at a sport, researching and discovering new things, documenting knowledge, creating music or stories, being the town's farmer, whatever.
Hedonism certainly isn't a proper way of filling that void, but it's just as dumb as filling it with children because your ape mind didn't pull out.
>The world is too terrible to bring children into it
Even though I don't see the moral obligation in having children, self proclaimed "child-free" people are insufferable. Not having children does not make you morally superior, and it has never been a "good time" to raise children because the world always will be hostile. That doesn't mean people should stop having children, the whole reason all life still exists is because offspring can pull through and live sort of okay. The whole risk-averse attitude against children is a pretty bad argument against not having then.
But that being said, it doesn't make having children the right moral choice either. Children aren't carbon copies of their parents, xoomers gave birth to zoomers and look at how bad zoomers are. I am repeating myself here but surely you can see why "capable" people don't necessarily make "capable" children, and how your definition of "capable" is incomplete and fails to define what a "desirable" person is. I mean, can you imagine a world ruled by pedantic, insufferable SighSee autists who get high scores in IQ and got a 7 figure net-worth from crypto?
>If you and your wife took your nihilist beliefs
I am not the married anon who you were replying to but you were the one to bring up the question of "why have cash if you die?", if anything you're the nihilist here
Look I'm drinking a heckin martini and the wife is drinking an IPA at 2pm!!!
/childfree
>look i"m making a hecking angry SighSee comment at 2pm from my mom's basement and my non-existent girlfriend is sitting beside me!
Gonna go to the heckin barcade later on with the wife. Afterwards jamal is coming over for some sexy times 😉
Two reasonable people having a conversation on SighSee, now I’ve really seen it all!
Don’t listen to these tradcucks, half of the time they ge a pity handjob for being a good wage slave and are all miserable
would never take advice from a soulless person opposed to kids
>childfree
>find a partner with similar goals and outlook
There is a woman I've tried to break up with multiple times because of a language barrier that's been present for the year we've known each other. For example, she doesn't know words like trousers, concept, potent, flammable, and she can't always pronounce them correctly either. She refused to just let the relationship slide. We are in our mid 20s, and lately I've felt trapped. The conversation aren't interesting, but she's the kindest women you'll ever meet, enough so that it's possible to get upset with her over it (you know how some people are clingy and want cuddles, but you want a break to be alone for a while?). We never fight, she does anything I ask her, but she has no interesting interests. All of which makes my mind's system 1 think, because of this lack of personal depth, less respect is deserved. It could be considered a bit incel-ish, I understand.
I've told her I feel like I'm too young to make this kind of compensation, and that when I see others speaking without troubles, internally I am jealous and frustrated.
Do you have any thoughts about all this? I am wondering if it's best to stop this relationship despite it being her biggest fear in life. Like is this a rare thing that men truly desire? An obedient, cute gf? It feels shameful to not value conversation and communication.
If you're gonna make a judgement call on this, I hope you won't think that following what your heart tells you is the mean, selfish thing to do. I think it might be the kindest thing you do for both of you.
Intimacy can only exist between equals. If you can't respect someone, you can't fulfill the desire for intimacy with them. And that means they can't with you. On a basic level, you'll never be happy with her.
Two possibilities
>The language barrier might be keeping you from viewing her as a complete human being. When you're communicating with someone in a foreign language, it's impossible for them to convey subtlety. They'll sound like a moronic child to you and you to them.
>Maybe she really is that stupid. Maybe one day you'll meet someone you can't communicate with at all and you'll want to frick their brains out and talk for hours. Maybe your current partner really is as moronic as part of you thinks. And that's why you can't see her as an equal. Who knows.
Maybe it would be kinder for you to let her go so that you can know for sure what you're looking for in a relationship.
But I'm just a stoned moron writing a bunch of shit, what do I know
It kinda seems like her friends don't respect her fully either. Perhaps it's because she talks about mundane topics a lot, or acts socially awkward sometimes. Idk because I can't fully understand her language. But this makes her and I equal in a few ways. We both live in this small world that involves remote work, the gym, and hanging with each other, and our small number of friends.
Do you have any experience with breaking up with women? How do you go about it, and how to they normally respond?
Btw, thanks for your comment.
This sounds spookily like me and my now ex. She was a truly 'nice' woman but a fricking loser with no self control who struggled to operate as a responsible adult. We were together for 5 years and I broke up with her even though I knew it would destroy her. I feel guilty and she's a mess.
There's no conclusion to this blogpost.
>would destroy her. I feel guilty and she's a mess
How bad was it? Do you feel more relief than guilt now? Sometimes I wake up in the night having a panic attacks, thinking about breaking up with exes I've had. Some were truly sweet and nice, and I broke up with them instead of teaching them house skills.
Damn this is literally the way i feel about my gf. She's very sweet, very nice, cares about me, fairly attractive, always wants sex etc. We are mid 20s.
However she is just immature, has a minor lisp, and sounds like a 12 year old when she talks. She often doesnt get things the first time and i have to repeat myself. She often mumbles and i have to ask her to repeat herself.
I love her but i have a hard time connecting with her. I want to break up but its gonna suck because i really have no reason to except i dont enjoy having a gf who is more like a daughter than a girlfriend.
She also doesnt want kids. Im 50/50 but dont want to close the door for sure on that now. We had an abortion last year which i supported but i could see myself want kids in my 30s.
If i was like 35 i could make things work out in our marriage but im not. I dont want to be settling in my mid 20s already. Is it selfish? On the other hand its nice having a girl to frick and do activities with.
Any idea if i should break up and how to do it? She loves me alot and would be devastated. And online dating sucks ass although i can pull with some effort. But ideally id be with a more mentally mature woman.
>dont enjoy having a gf who is more like a daughter than a girlfriend
I'm the anon who started this sub thread. This same thought has crossed my mind many times. It makes it that much harder to break up cus you don't want to her this girl who's just like a daughter you're dating. Driving her around, cooking for her, making sure she's dressed well and will be warm enough before going out, teaching her how to open cans of food and window blinds... It makes you wonder if she'll be ok on her own because of the quality of life you provide
>. It makes it that much harder to break up cus you don't want to her this girl who's just like a daughter you're dating
Yes exactly. Shes such a sweetheart and even the thought of breaking her heart and seeing her sobbing and broken makes me really sad.
I just cant really say the relationship is bad enough to break up. And she has a tight pussy and great boobs. But id be much happier with a girl whos more mature. These girls are like the trad girl meme but it kinda sucks to have that shy immature sweet girl tbh.
Are you/your gf attractive? Are you planning on kids? Could you get another gf if you break up? Honestly the regular, no condom sex with her is enough to make me not break up alone.
>Did she fall into your lap at a time where you experienced nothing but rejection, or slight interest from fugly prostitutes, leaving you feeling desperate and lonely?
No not really. Ive always been able to get casual sex, but am not always active because i dont necessarily enjoy it. But at worst every 4-6 months when im single ill frick a tinder girl just to not get rusty.
>Have you cheated on her because of these mixed emotions you feel?
Sometimes i redownload bumble and talk to girls. I met a couple girls who were more mature and that i liked better. We swapped nudes and stuff but i never met up with them
>How long have you been together?
1.2 years
>But id be much happier with a girl whos more mature.
wiener vs cognition. Hmm. This is a false dichotomy, but something for use to consider... if we ever snapped out of our decision paralysis. I'm waiting for an old 40+ year old boomer to explain his situation with this.
>Are you/your gf attractive?
Yes, we joke about being the king and queen of our gym with each other lol
>Are you planning on kids?
We are both mid 20s as well, so it's way too early for that, but we both want kids.
>Could you get another gf if you break up?
Yes, but I'd hold off on it unless I met the girl of my dreams - a really driven, career enjoyer, mommy gf with great English and communication skills. It's too hard to get rid of mediocre and below tier women. I also want to solo travel for 2 months this year, so being in a stable relationship isn't really what I'm focused on now.
>Honestly the regular, no condom sex with her is enough to make me not break up alone
I bet that's great, I've been missing that a bit. My gf isn't on pills or an IUD because she's a like the trad gf too, and it doesnt seem right to change her natural hormones for cooming.
>a really driven, career enjoyer, mommy gf with great English and communication skills.
Thats what i want too. I thought my current gf was like this, she is doing her masters and has alot of money in her investment account. But ended up being a total child despite also being career and finance focused.
>My gf isn't on pills or an IUD because she's a like the trad gf too, and it doesnt seem right to change her natural hormones for cooming.
Yeah fair enough. I dont want her on birth control pills either. We did it raw and I pulled out, but thats why she ended up getting the abortion lol. Pretty dumb of us but whatever. She is still fine with just pullout.
Do you consider your gf mediocre despite being attractive? What do you think the odds are of you actually breaking up with her? How long have you been together? Are you american?
Its funny we like the exact same girl and are in the same situation. No experience in this world is unique i guess.
Yes would like some old people to weigh in on this too.
>We did it raw and I pulled out
I guess I've been lucky then? We don't use any protection 2 days before she expects her period, and I pull out. She refuses to take plan b so I've stopped chancing it at any other period phase. I would've died being a 25 yo daddy. That time must've been stressful for both of you... Does she ever get sad about it? Was it easy to get done?
>Do you consider your gf mediocre despite being attractive?
Yeah, mostly cus she has really lame interests. Recently she was talking on and on about a friend she had several years ago, and her eating habits. Without much grace, I told her I didn't care about her friend eating meat 5 years ago. I apologized after cus I'm weak for her.
>What do you think the odds are of you actually breaking up with her?
I've tried 5 times in the past 8 months... if I leave the country for 2 months alone, above 50%, but that's a coward way to do it... if she just accepted it the 1st or second time, it would've been over, but we always end up at my place together.
>How long have you been together?
We are the same human in the same relationship. 1.2 years.
>Are you american?
Close enough.
We you her first relationship?
I was being dumb. I would get drunk and not clean my dick properly in between sex. Also i think being uncircumcized catches more cum. Im more careful now. I dont think pullout is that risky if done properly.
>Does she ever get sad about it? Was it easy to get done?
Not really sad now. She was definitely sad when it happened but doesnt really talk about it much anynore. She doesnt want kids so she didnt feel that bad, it was necessary for her. She always said she would get an abortion if she got pregnant and its exactly what she did. She might regret it when shes childless and 40 and changes her mind. Hopefully not.
It wasnt that hard to get done. She took the abortion pill (different than Plan B). It was super painful, basically just pisses out the fetus into the toilet. She cried alot during it too.
Being a child shes a big baby for pain. So cried like a baby and unncessarily whined alot like all pain during the whole abortion. That said its a tough situation so i was sympathetic.
>I've tried 5 times in the past 8 months... if I leave the country for 2 months alone, above 50%, but that's a coward way to do it...
I hope you can finally do it. Im hoping my gf does a co-op abroad so that i can do the cowards way of breaking up too because shes gone to another country.
>We you her first relationship
Nope. Had 2 other relationships, one for a year one for a few months. And plenty of other casual sex. Is it your first?
You're probably canadian like me since we are the same person. You probably live in my building in Toronto.
>It wasnt that hard to get done.
I guess a doctor prescribed the pill after a consultation? How far along was she?
Sorry, I meant to ask if she was ever in a relationship before? I wasn't my gfs first bf but her first lay. I've had many gfs, but I'm beginning to slow down. I don't have the energy to sex flirt with women anymore. It's also really juvenile imo.
Yep, I live near you.
And yes, condoms every time except for once per month.
>I guess a doctor prescribed the pill after a consultation? How far along was she?
Yes. She did a test at home, then went to the doctor. The doctor did an ultrasound to confirm she was pregnant then prescribed the pills. Unlike a surgical abortion where she has to go to a clinic to remove the fetus. With the medical abortion its just a pill taken at home and she passes out the fetus into the toilet.
She was 8 weeks pregnant. Medical can only be done before 10 weeks. After that it needs to be surgical removed.
Personally im kind of amoral and dont really give a shit but i guess its up to each person. We just agreed on abortion beforehand. She is the trad meme but hates kids. Which i may want in the future.
>Sorry, I meant to ask if she was ever in a relationship before? I wasn't my gfs first bf but her first lay. I've had many gfs, but I'm beginning to slow down. I don't have the energy to sex flirt with women anymore. It's also really juvenile imo.
Yes she had one previous relationship. They were together for like 2 years. So one body before me. Again the trad meme but it actually isnt as great as /misc/ virgins say. Im at 15? Something like that.
Yeah, we are getting old 🙁
Personally i"d be fine just staying single and fricking 20 year olds non stop till im 70. We will see though.
When would you try another relationship if you ended it now at 25 y/o and went to travel?
Are you Chinese by chance? You kind of type like a Chinese guy i know. Is your gf white or chinese?
>She was 8 weeks pregnant. Medical can only be done before 10 weeks
dude the baby is well developed by then
what a stupid fricking b***h, 2 months of no periods and didnt know she was pregnant. keep her as your side hoe
>When would you try another relationship if you ended it now at 25 y/o and went to travel?
Whilst traveling, or when I return. But I will be sure I choose the right one next time and not let her go either. Every month I have profound regrets late in the night about a select few women who would've been good to keep around. Lately it's been about this one girl that spoke clearly, was very poise, and had a great fashion sense (she was South Korean). I let her go after a month though because she was on anxiety meds, had plastic surgery, she couldn't cook at all, and had really red gums indicating they were infected... okay I just miss her personality lol
Do you ever feel profound romantic regret every so often? Similar or dissimilar to panic attacks?
>Are you Chinese by chance? You kind of type like a Chinese guy i know. Is your gf white or chinese?
No, I am white, my gf is Chinese.
>Do you ever feel profound romantic regret every so often? Similar or dissimilar to panic attacks?
Stop reading my mind.
I wonder if we'd be good friends if we ever met each other. My email is polycrush at proton dot me if you ever want to talk.
yeah... why not. Haven't had an internet friend in like 8 years
why are there so many torontogays here
Do you use condoms at other times then?
We are both good looking too btw. Im muscular and she is the trad wife meme type. And she looks younger than me and much younger than her age. I see guys eye fricking her all the time.
Did she fall into your lap at a time where you experienced nothing but rejection, or slight interest from fugly prostitutes, leaving you feeling desperate and lonely?
Have you cheated on her because of these mixed emotions you feel?
How long have you been together?
The fact that your post is written like it's made by chatgpt is already enough to disregard everything you say
do people not understand that you can travel and save money in your twenties?
throughout my twenties and even into my thirties I would work about six months a year and travel the other six. it was not hard. have roommates and don't get sucked into the money traps like streaming subscriptions, fast fashion, expensive car payments, fast casual dining etc.
the downside is your career is going to suffer. most firms won't let you take a huge half-year long stint of unpaid leave so you'll probably fall into the swirl of seasonal employment. that means bad pay, bad treatment, very little career progression and probably a lot of geographic instability. and then when you meet a girl and want that more grounded lifestyle you're going to be starting from that entry level. making shit money, working with twenty-three year olds and really struggling. but ultimately you should rise pretty fast, that or go get a skill or certification that lets you skip the line a little bit.
No amount of money or career success will buy you back your twenties. When you are on your death bed, you aren’t going to say “oh I wish I wageslaved for Mr. Toilberg for 5 more years”.
Travel in your 20’s if you can. The future is uncertain. Saving is good, but don’t sacrifice your life just so you can be a rich old man.
I was on Curacao the last 10 days, I'm 24 years old and I met a bunch of people in their mid 30s and holy shit they're all giga coping because they already fricked up their life by divorce and kids, or choosing a depressing career or just being a frick up in general. Literally every single one was broken in a different way. I enjoy my 0 responsibilities and my young looks tbh, not tryna become a bitter mid life crisis person like them
We avoided that with this path
Yes lots of depressing and fricked up individuals on the resorts in the caribbean
Did you get laid at all?
Yeah, I fricked a cute Columbian chick 🙂 at first i thought she was a prostitute but no she literally just wanted fun
haha nice, how much was she?
this
travelling in your 20s is way better
you’re young dumb and full of cum, can afford to make mistakes, blow all your money, whatever. There’s plenty of time to build a career and family later on.
I’ve met a lot of 30+ backpackers and they’re all still working dead end jobs, have no meaningful relationships, etc… and it’s too late to fix that
The thing is what a lot of you guys are failing to realise is that the care-free travelling in your 20s blowing all your money thinking there's plenty of time to build a career etc later on means that you'll likely end up like the 30+ backpackers in dead-end jobs like you describe.
It's just about balance.
Lol wut? Plenty of people start their professional careers on their 30s and make it all the way to the top.
Replace "travelling" with "army" and you will see plenty of people having a 5-10 year gap between high school and uni/first real job.
Of course this means you can't keep changing careers every other time because yes, 40s are already too much to do over again, but check many examples from the old aristocracy going on "grand tours" the Israelis serving 3 years in the army and then travelling for another 1-2 before starting Uni or the whole community of working holidays. Exploring the world when young is a rite of passage
lol, I wonder. I'm 31, never travelled much, just sold a house recently for insane profit and have a like spare $100k I'm going to travel with for the next couple of years (don't need to work)
Demoralizing thread for me. 26 years old (about to be 27) only ever visited coolest parts of la/orange county since I live here, san francisco, san diego, and vegas. Barely about to visit Japan and South Korea for month.
Did I frick up taking this long to actually get out? I am that nerd that stays home and never leaves by reading science fiction books and playing video games inside all day. I regret not traveling more since I was a momma's boy?
Do I still have time since I am about to be 27 or did I frick up? I work from home, so I can technically go anywhere I JNwant now.
Op here, and the only reason I am actually about to go to japan and asia is because I have a gf now and she inspires me to travel. Otherwise I would still be more home sheltered. I am a introvert at heart.
Is it too late for me to live like you guys or am I fricked? I prob don't plan to have kids or marry, seems kinda dumb
OP here, I am 27 and will start traveling at 30 and have kids at 33. this guys a fake
Everyone starts later than they want to. I started at 20, and was a bit on and off for a while. Even I wish I'd started earlier instead of trying so hard at that fricking uni degree and attending every single lecture.
>Do I still have time since I am about to be 27 or did I frick up? I work from home, so I can technically go anywhere I JNwant now.
Of course you still have time anon, but only if you seize this oppertunity.
>I have a gf
Ok this changes everything.
>I prob don't plan to have kids or marry
I'm not the childfree guy or a nihlist but jesus christ why do you have a gf then? However moronic having kids might seem to you, tieing yourself down to a girl while you have no intention of having kids is 100x dummer. Please explain to me in clear language your reasoning behind this. It makes about as much sense as sawing both your legs off 'to make the world a better place.
Similar boat here but I’m turning 26 in august
I thought I would be happy building a self employed income and live in the suburbia that I do, but I’m still unhappy because it’s not enough and I want to be a better person and see the world still
Heavily considering the navy, my brother joined at this age and he’s been loving it since. When he texted me showing me that he was in Japan it made me realize he’s living his life while I’m in my shell still
Very relatable. 28 here, good salary, many years of experience, good savings. On paper everything was done right.
But living in a room working from home for the past 3 years has put it into perspective that this isn't how humans are supposed to live.
Ya exactly, even if you can save money for a trip here and there, what’s the point if you’re destined to return back to the box you call a home
You’re still young, larp as younger than you are and take care of your skin and hair
I'm not sure what other people Correct(tm) and calculated decision is
Better do nothing instead and keep scrooling
Honestly not sure if it really matters. I don't think life changes the instant you turn 30, I about to be 27 next month and all of my life choices/mistakes have led me here. I'd still be the same dumbass or intelligent person I am at 30. Life doesn't just change. You can decide not to get married to a woman, get stuck in a dead end job, or constrain yourself to anything. I am speaking as a man. Dating and career wise you should atleast have some experience and a degree ideally.
I am traveling a bit late, but plan to take vacations as much as I can, energy wise I am not sure how getting older will frick you up, Unless you eat junk food and are unhealthy. Just stay fit by exercising and make sure you are keeping up with tech.
It's true, anon, wait until you're 30. You will realize traveling is a meme by then.
It's all the same. Spend your time planting roots. Get to know the people in your community. Explore your own c**t. Unironically.
I'm glad I was able to travel before the pandemic garbage, travelled at 20-22. Unfortunately thanks to the pandemic I'm stuck having to get my degree hopefully before I'm 30. God I wish I had a time machine.
man there's a metric frickton of gigacope itt
yes you're ruining your future wealth by trying to chase that wanderlust like the other instaprostitutes do
no you're not smart enough to make those losses back in your 30s
you picked having a good time now because you had no self control due to a poor upringing
the argument of having less energy as you get older (20 to 30) is an admission of your shitty lifestyle
you can give me (You)s all you want, it won't change the facts. I just hope the whining from some of the "men" in their late 20s and early 30s in here served as a warning.
Wow yeah you must be a lot of fun at parties …..
>implying he got invited
i am yes, around successful like-minded people. I'm sure I would bring the mood down at whatever slophouses you hang out at to keep deluding yourself into thinking you made good life choices
Playing the devil’s advocate is the surest way to ensure that nobody ever wants to talk to you again. Not only does it lead to bickering and unsettled questions, but it gives the other participant(s) no idea what you actually think, and so they learn nothing about you.
When you die, you won't be able to take your precious money with you. I'd rather spend it while I can.
Obviously, compound interest means that a dollar saved now will be worth several times that by the time I'm old. This analysis ignores the fact that a dollar spent now is worth infinitely more to me than in my 60's. I can't even think of what I'd spend it on at that age, given that any children of mine would probably be grown. Palliative care, maybe. More expensive negresses to abuse me in a nursing home.
At $120k, I'm easily in the top 1% of incomes worldwide. That's more than enough for any man. Will I be able to live in the most expensive US suburbs? No, but that's ok. I'd rather live in a place where everyone isn't mentally ill. I could hunker down for a year and buy a Latin American penthouse. That's good enough for me.
>no you're not smart enough to make those losses back in your 30s
Speak for yourself
>tfw didn't party OR make money in 20s
this thread went to shit, but maybe it was always shit
I'm 29 and spent my whole life being a neet and working dead end jobs. I'm going to travel to Asia when I'm 30 and then an hero when my money runs out.
based
drink yourself to death like the rest of us
Good on you anon, at least you've come to realize what you've become.
happens more than you know, knew a few that jumped off the top floor when their money ran out. It's why I don't walk past tall buildings in Thailand anymore. Godspeed anon.
Absolutely based. I would wait till you are 40 and are officially an oldcel though, you are still young in the grand scheme of things at 30 and you never know what can turn around. At least coom as much as possible before you go out though and get some life affirming experiences
>this autistic rambling about human purpose
Just live YOUR life
Precisely my point, live and let others live. "nooo why are you not having children" is just as bad as "nooo why are you having children". Just fricking live.
I hate this stupid fricking zoomer attitude that it's cool not to care about things. There are things that matter in life, you aren't cool for choosing to put your fricking head in the sand.
Caring about YOUR OWN life and worrying about the life of others are vastly different things. You're the dumb zoomer here for trying to tell others what to do.
>Wah wah
shut up b***h
looks like someone's mad
Im the guy who posted the comment saying me and my wife aren't gonna have kids. What a shit storm i created lol.
Anyways, while you guys were complaining, we had (other DINK) friends over, got drunk, then I creampied her after our guests left. Today we went to the beach and are now marinading some fish for dinner.
You guys can stay mad but I'm enjoying every day. And never bringing a new life into the world.
Based anon
I dunno why that homie is acting like earth is running out of humans
while you're right that it's not running out of general humanoids, it is beginning to run out of whites
I want you to remember your arrogance when you grow old, when you realize that everyone you ever knew is either dead or dying and the feeling of true loneliness grasps at your ailing heart, I want you to remember your arrogance. Only then will you long for the warmth and companionship of your own flesh and blood being there with you in your final days.
It's ok, he made plenty of money for Mr. Goldstein, enough to afford the most heroic medical care at Mt. Sinai Beth Israel Hospital in his dying days. He lived a full life, pounding his wife's aging minge and going on playdates with like-minded people.
Is this supposed to be a compelling argument?
>durr have kids just so you're not sad when you die
Get over it pussy, we all die alone.
Dying's not an instant. Dying is years and years of decline. Have fun getting abused by negresses in an old folks home.
>Dying's not an instant. Dying is years and years of decline
Not for everyone, and you can make it an instant relatively easily
>Have fun getting abused by negresses in an old folks home.
You can do everything right and still have your kids hate you and put you in a home. Sure, that may be a reason to have kids, but lets not pretend its any noble inclination
>we all die alone
So we should spend the final years of our lives alone as well then. What a miserable creature you are.
>o we should spend the final years of our lives alone as well then
That's a non sequitur
People with children die in geriatrics all the fricking time, don't even pretend this is a valid reason to have children. Making children to keep yourself entertained is an absolute Black person move too, why the frick is it someone else's responsibility to keep you happy?
>Making children to keep yourself entertained is an absolute Black person move too, why the frick is it someone else's responsibility to keep you happy?
You don't make children to keep yourself entertained. That's only a beneficial side-effect. You make children because it's your duty to nature, because the world needs educated white children to assure its proper functioning.
Yes, so we can continue the spic-nig cycle
I've seen this so many times. Loads of kids, but they're stuck in some shitty little retirement home. Having kids won't guarantee shit, but it will definitely tick off a very primal urge to propagate. People will invent high and mighty reasons for wanting to creampie a woman, but it is man's most natural instinct. The rest doesn't even matter, most high T men would be content knowing they've left twelve bastards, regardless if they had anything to do with raising them.
Look I don't really have a dog in this whole DINK vs. breeder thing, though personally I tend to bias towards the breeders myself.
However, you have to acknowledge the inherent hypocrisy of constantly assuring people how great life without kids while simultaneously lamenting what a cruel decision it must be to bring life into this increasingly shitty world and future. I shouldn't have to explain why this thinking is more than a little incongruent.
I've also found in life that people who have to in great detail explain to you how they are having such a great time are often not having a good time. Cope's the word. This dynamic is especially true amongst those who go into these detailed explanations without ever being asked.
People with kids tend to say things like
>It changed my life and I regret it, but its the best decision I ever made
and I like that. It seems to really capture the sort of emotional contradictions we all experience in a human sort of way. This is infinitely more relatable and charming than the logical contradictions of DINKs, who to be honest always sort of sound like they are selling something when they describe their lifestyle.
All these words just to cope
i could replace DINK with breeder in your post and it would still make sense, big life decisions make people regret things no matter what they are
how about you and the DINK homosexual shut the frick up already
I was simply replying to the original question about whether it was worth waiting to travel or not.
This triggered a bunch of people.
I don't even see it as DINK vs breeder it's just different people choosing different things.
I'm not "selling" anything, just talking about some benefits and defending myself from intense, unwarranted attacks.
I also do think DINK is a great lifestyle that people should keep an open mind to. Alot of people don't know it is an option.
>wait for your 30s
when you are in your 30s and sitting on a growing nest egg, you decide to keep working, buy a house, and wait for retirement to see the world.
anyone have link to OP? I want to save that Europe basedack meme
some truly awful personalities ITT
this.
I'd say travel whenever you're prepared (logistics, finance, etc) and in the right frame of mind. 20s is best for partying/fricking etc but you can still have fun later in life.
accurate.
>Unhappy at home
>Unhappy abroad
Anon if you had only saved the money you earned in your twenties you could have retired at 69 years old instead of 71 years old
>It's not an old folks home, it's a RETIREMENT COMMUNITY
The only way to retire these days is either make 2 million a year or move to a third world country.
Boomers fricked everyone over, there's no point in saving when inflation will just melt your savings.
Jop
does traveling over VR count? I use the wander app on my oculus quest 2, it's free and I don't even need to leave my house.
Hook it up to a flesh light and you're good to go
You can always make more money.
But you can't buy back time.
Therefore you should travel in your 20s and 30s. Creampie the frick out of the dumb tourist girls.
I don't get how people even meet girls on their travels
>then go once you're in your 30s?
working holiday visa age limit is 30 for most countries
35 if you're from ireland or germany
Take the androcentric pill. Coom in prostitutes when you are old enougn to be their boyfriend, not their father. You can always make money, can't buy back your youth.
However, a caveat to this. Save money and live at home for 3-5 years and invest 40% of a biweekly paycheck into ira and 401k to have a nest egg.
you can never buy your youth back you morons
Fricking cringe. You won't be able to enjoy it at all by then and if you're not a fricking c**t you'll have a life that you can't just up and leave.
My plan is ridiculous but I'll share it anyways.
I make good money, save half my paycheck, and I'm in my early 20s. I'd like to do a lot of things: travel, have a family, go back to school and get a PhD, own a cabin in the woods, not have to do a boring monkey job, etc. And I could do any of these things now.
I could travel a lot, I could have a family, I could get a PhD, I could buy a cabin, I could quit monkey job. But I can only do one. Whereas, assuming I keep saving and my paycheck increases, I can do all of those at the same time in my 30s.
My retirement account is going to be massive, so no need for monkey job. I'll have enough money to buy a shitty project cabin. I'll have the time to get a PhD, some semblance of school breaks like in undergrad that can be used for travel, and the money to raise a family.
Of course I won't have the energy for all of this, but it's better to have the option to do more than one at once instead of locking my entire life into one path I chose on a whim in my 20s.
Then an emergency happens or you have a kid and now you're able to do none of those and have nothing to show for travel experience. Staying with your family at the Holiday Inn next to the airport for 2 weeks is not the same as backpacking solo across multiple countries for months at a time.
>Staying with your family at the Holiday Inn next to the airport for 2 weeks is not the same as backpacking solo across multiple countries for months at a time
Did your parents hate you? Traveling with family is much more of a joy than traveling solo. Usually I'm just lonely solo, even when going to hostels and making """friends"""
Not him, but I think I'm more at liberty to be myself when I'm alone. That's why I wouldn't necessarily travel with my family. I can't just decide to smoke weed all day at the club in Barcelona, then go on a Tinder date and come back home reeking of weed, with company in tow (or not). It's disrespectful, and they'll think it's cringy and immature (I'm 26).
They have perfectly good reasons for thinking that, but at the end of the day it's my life and as long as I'm not hurting anyone, I mean to do what I like. That's why now that I've got a real job, I'm definitely putting some distance between myself and my parents.
Maybe you'll think this is a really shallow way to think if you come from a country where it's normal for people to live with their parents until they're 30 (Italy), or a country where you're expected to let them live with you until they die, supporting them (China). Or a cultural background where family groups and other forms of affinity are so greatly valued (Latin America).
But that's one of the great things about travel. You understand the differences between other cultures and yours, giving you ironic distance. You are then free to choose what you really value from it and what you do not. Other people just follow their culture blindly. That's why traveling really can help you "find yourself."
wow I'm really fricked up on weed
Smoking weed and having degenerate sex aren't "finding yourself", and in any case I've been able to do that (and done it many times) every weekend of my adult life, so travel doesn't really change that.
>other people just blindly follow their culture
Most people are in the middle on this. You and me are probably not as special as we think. And yeah, some people are stubborn, but many, many people want to learn about other cultures, too. Your thing about "thinking it's shallow if you come from a family-based culture" doesn't really make sense to me, probably since I'm not from one
This is such frickin bullshit. You can invest your money AND travel in your 20s if you have discipline.
You will NEVER be treated the way a smooth faced tiktok 20 something with a full head of hair, OOZING vitality and virility will, as opposed to some tired out, balding, 30 something homosexual.
Thats regardless of your venue, country, etc. whether you’re a coomer, a straight shooter, whatever. When I was mid 20s all I felt when I saw OLD BALD FAT losers at the club, moping in the corner with their bottle of sangsom was contempt and anger.
You can save up 10-20k anytime and go ball, while also investing and getting that good decade of compounding etc etc.
The red circled comment is one of those tired out homosexuals that didn’t capture the travel gainz experienced by his former (maybe) smooth faced tiktoker virile 20 year old self
yes, you can do both, but you'll always be hurting future residuals if you spend that capital now. that's irrefutable fact. there is no playbook to life, do what you want.
It is 100% worth it.
When I was 22 I fricked in hostels dorms, went on benders, rode motorbikes through mountain ranges, did all sorts of drugs, crossed borders illegally. Even 4 years later at 26 my tolerance for that lifestyle has decreased dramatically. There is no way I could get away with the shit I was doing at 22 if I was in my 30s.
The idea that travelling young and building wealth are mutually exclusive is a brainlet take. My NW just cracked 150KUSD at 26 and I only got a real FT job at 23. I don't have a degree.
>a real FT job
What is FT?
Feet job, he sells feet pics.
It's full time.
It just depends when you have time. I just turned 30. I’ve had a remote job for 3 years now and I can tell you that I regret not spending the last year or two traveling instead of moving home to save money. It was a good time for me to travel. I just didn’t. So there’s no hard rule.
2021-2022 was terrible for travel, I'd understand regretting not traveling pre-covid.
>2021-2022 was terrible for travel, I'd understand regretting not traveling pre-covid.
Disagree, I flew into Thailand when they opened in summer of 2021 and the year I stayed there was the best experience I've had out of many visits to that country.
It has to be a balance. Work, live with your parents, and save money for a couple of years and have a nice egg of funds you can use. Probably the most random thing that gave me lifefuel I can across but Incel TV towards the end of this video actually gave come pretty good insight towards the end of the video. If you want to skip all of the blackpill mumbling go to 15:00
Funny how everything he says goes out the window if you go relocate to SEA.
I traveled to Venice last summer as soon as I got a remote job. Had no savings, was living paycheck to paycheck essentially, moving between Airbnbs in the big city, just having the time of my life as a 20-something year old. I dated an Italian artist chick and a Kazakh exchange student randomly in Venice.
Though I was there for a week, I got dates with both women while I was there. Both I met on Tinder. The Kazakh girl was a bust, we got spritzes but she obviously wasn't attracted to me.
But the Italian girl. We got Afghan food and laughed for three hours. After finishing our meals, we walked around the city with no aim in sight. Towards the end, I got her in an alley away from all the tourists on some pretext and we kissed for like 3 minutes straight. It was a hot kiss, she was letting me feel her ass and everything.
In the end, we never ended up meeting again. But I'm glad to have that memory. And I know something like that will probably never happen in my 30's. My hairline's receding and I am NOT the type to look handsome bald.
Baldness is an option in 2023. There are multitudes of treatments and surgeries to regrow and retain hair if you truly want it.
This board is terrified of doctors and medicine. I doubt any of them go to the dentist out of schizo fear of having a tracking device stuck in their mouth. Just watch how they screech when you suggest something as banal as getting a yellow fever or Japanese encephalitis vaccine.
I have curly hair. The texture is very particular. Even if I get implants, it'll never "feel" the same. Everyone who knows me would know it was fake. Just turning 25 -> 26, I lost 2cm on my hairline. Can't even imagine what I'll look like at 40.
The good implants are for guys like Elon Musk anyway, who can afford the best doctors money can buy. I don't particularly relish having to drop a small fortune on something many guys enjoy for free.
At a certain point, I'll just have to marry in order to withdraw from the dating scene with some dignity. I think I'm ready at this point. Dating is fun but continually putting yourself out there is exhausting.
Look into hair systems if you care about your hair and can't get a transplant.
A decent transplant costs like 7-10 grand and uses your existing hair follicles. I will never understand why so many people in life complain about their problems yet look for every excuse to avoid solving them.
No one's life is like the other. Do not compare yourself to other people. You are an individual and it is your life to live.
It's pretty true. Time in the market is the most important factor for growing a sizeable amount of money. Now that I'm in my mid twenties and have a sizeable amount of money saved up and invested traveling is way less stressful and more enjoyable than when I was dead broke using all of my money just to travel and stress out about every little unexpected expense, much less saving for retirement. Now that I have enough that I could feasibly stop contributing to my retirement accounts and still have enough to retire on it's a complete world's difference in mindset and personal enjoyment in everything I do already. Now I am working towards securing passive income through investments, working a more relaxed schedule (likely traveling for the winter) and by the time I'm 30 I want to live abroad full time partially sustained by passive income partially by doing remote work.
I traveled and worked away purely in preparation for travel about 5 years of my life. Working (albeit not as much as I could have or should have been) online while traveling for several months at a time as well. I don't regret say, the first two. I think they were good formative experiences for me. The latter three were a waste of time and money and I wish I started working seriously and saving up money then. I would be where I want to be at 30 right now. I don't think it has to be all or nothing though. I think you could go on a really good, formative, thought-provoking 3-6 month trip in your early 20s and still save up and work for the rest of your early 20s, maybe even taking a shorter trip here and there.
My biggest problem is that in my early 20s, I had friends to travel with. Whether university or hometown friends, people were always up for some travelling, even though we had barely any money.
Now in my 30s I have tons of money to spend but nobody to travel with. Everyone is busy working their dead-end 9-to-5 jobs that make them unavailable for most of the week and prevent us from making any sensible travel plans.
How do I meet people to travel with? I've met a few flight attendants and they have flexible schedules so they're good travel partners, but they're often stuck-up b***hes.
Hostels. I'm guessing all the 'travelling' with friends you were doing before was weekend trips to some european capital anyway?
Imagine it's 2018 and someone is asking you for advice on whether they should travel.
"Just wait a few years bro, you'll have more money and travel will be even cheaper"
Is that what you would say?
Don't fricking waste your life thinking that the future will get better, because it won't. Everything will be worse. Just enjoy it while you can. Do it now.
>Don't fricking waste your life thinking that the future will get better, because it won't. Everything will be worse.
Sadly, this is true. The only thing the future promises is old age and death. Don't put off living your life. You'll be shocked how quickly time flies.
This. Turns out travel is a privilege not a right. When the next "crisis" rolls out dont be surprised you cant travel freely anymore. But hey the numbers on my account went up!
>is it a meme?
No. The reality is that you'll either be 22 with a bachelors, 24 with a masters or 25-27 with a law or medical degree. Once you're out of college and earning money, you've got 3-8 years before you hit 30. Once you have that paying job, you save up an emergency fund to ensure you can live for 3+ months without a job. Once you have that emergency fund, save your money and go traveling as often as you can, use credit card trifectas (triple AMEX, triple Chase cards) to rack up points to help fund future travel.
The real trick is to make sure you have a SOLID emergency fund for when shit hits the fan (my current fund is at $20k, enough for a 1BR apt for a full year with 8k for food/healthcare), and saving money to spend on the things you want. When you're young you won't earn as much so you really have to pick between fun and future money. Once you have several years of experience and your salary goes up it's easier to fund travel and at home QOL. You earn more investing earlier and depriving yourself of travel, but its easier to travel and more fun to do when younger and with less responsibility in life overall.
The balance really lies in how much you can get away with, because if you're making 30k a year then yeah survival outweighs travel, but if you're earning 80k a year it's a lot easier to save and spend on what you need/want.
Pssst...! I'll tell you a secret.
You can do what you want.
Travel in 20’s and 30’s is just different.
20’s, cheap as possible, chasing girls and bumming around.
30’s, flying first/business class, staying in upscale hotels, getting my workouts in and then soaking up history and cultural activities, or just hiring an adventure travel service to put together the itinerary.
It would be different if I had a gf/wife/kids. But I like the independence of being able to go where I please.
Your post is why zoomer girls like dating older men in their 30s. Frick and creampie 18 year old zoomer girls deep in their pussies.
Are you ever planning to have kids? Do you have any baby mamas/girls who aborted?
Do you frick mainly younger women? How do you keep earning money?
This is what I'm planning, basically saving up in my 20s, staying single, then travelling in luxury and creampieing zoomer bawds all my 30s and 40s. Just not sure how feasible it is. Any advice is appreciated.
I’m not the right guy to ask about that, as I don’t chase women when I travel any more. (Or, honestly, at all). It feels like a waste of time.
I’ll still hook up with a woman if it falls in my lap, but I’m not going to change my plans a tremendous amount, or give up on sleep / doing what I want to do, just to get laid. That was travel in my 20s and it was fun, but I feel like I got it out of my system.
Easiest thing IMO is to do couples-style vacations with friends with benefits (works best with a girl from a different city than yours). Arrange to meet up on some island and live together / frick like rabbits for a week, then go your separate ways again at the end.
Once you get used it to, it’s basically impossible to go back. I don’t make 7 figures, but I make mid-six, and it’s fully worth it at that level.
I also fly a ton for work, so many of my flights are paid for by clients or with points.
>Easiest thing IMO is to do couples-style vacations with friends with benefits (works best with a girl from a different city than yours). Arrange to meet up on some island and live together / frick like rabbits for a week, then go your separate ways again at the end.
Where do you meet these women, and how do you convince them to go? Do you do multiple trips or just one trip?
higher end wellness/adventure travel trips, like an 8-day retreat to an exotic country
Women that do those kinds of things tend to be single, fit, have money, be down with travel, and not looking for anything serious.
One one hand I’m sad because the lack of general interest in any kind of commitment whatsoever will be the downfall of society (as nobody is having kids anymore). But I also don’t have a problem enjoying meeting and spending time with interesting women.
Can you give me an example of a welness travel package / destination? Never though of picking up girls here.
There’s literally tons, just google around for “adventure travel,” “wellness travel” etc. Yoga retreats are popular and fun.
I don’t recommend doing these trips JUST to pick up girls, it’s definitely a weird vibe to bring in. However, when you’re in some remote jungle location with a bunch of fit, single women, things obviously happen. Outside of cities people revert to a more primal group psychology, it’s kind of trippy.
on god i don't like this homie one bit
Man I can't stop thinking about this comment, it's fricking hilarious to me.
🙂
I'm sorry but it sounds like you're coping so much. You'll never be happy until you confront your true feelings.
>flying first
flying first is such a waste of money that I can honestly only imagine doing it if you're making literal 7 figures. it doesn't make any financial sense if you don't earn that much
First is a waste of money. Business is enough of an upgrade over cattle class to be worth it, but first is nowhere near good enough for the money. Unless you’re an insecure bourgeois beta ofc
also jannies this isn’t a vpn no ban pls
I'll fly first on points but never on cash.
>tfw 31 and broke
>tfw everyone ITT is talking about how much more financially secure they are in their 30s
Nothing changed for me.
Chin up, anon. You're only 31. If you think about it, you still have another 30, 40 years of life left. You can go and learn a trade and be trained within 6-12 months. You're broke at 31 because of life circumstances OR you don't place a high value on money.
So don't worry about it. You can change your life anytime you want. Just put in small efforts every day and have a long-term goal in mind.
You'll be surprised how much your life can change in 24 months 🙂
>you still have another 30, 40 years
Do americans really just plan to live 60-70 years?
Lol. Its amazimg how she always looked like a normal girl, then for that final video she suddenly looks like a completely bust up prostitute. She definetely won't be getting enough from onlyfans to sustain her lifestyle, so I wonder what she's doing now she's burnt through her estranged parents' money?
>Do americans really just plan to live 60-70 years?
I know right, they always say it's a "midlife crisis" whenever some morbidly obese boomer starts acting up at 50
lol
lmao, even
I've thought about trade but wages are so shit in the UK I wonder if I'll be any better off than just staying on disability. Also getting on disability is a nightmare, if it all goes wrong and I need to go back on I have to go through that hell all over again and they will use the fact that I tried to escape against me. The welfare system is truly designed to keep you trapped.
I was in unversity 13 years ago but sperged out and have been on disability ever since. I have never had a job.
>The welfare system is truly designed to keep you trapped.
Must be why working-class British people are so dysgenic
No that's because of being forced to marry within one's class but the welfare system has started to contribute. For example getting a council flat is now so hard that the only way is to have lots of kids and kick out the dad so estates are now full of single mums with 10 kids and these kids will do the same thing when they grow up.
>the reason dysgenic morons behave in a moronic way, is because they are actually very intelligent lawyers that are using complex strategies to game the legal and social welfare loopholes, when just getting a normal job would have been much easier and better.
This is your brain on left-wing ideaology.
>Get a min wage job - £2k/month, £200 taken by taxman, £1.5k private rent, £200 on commuting, £100 on food, £0 left
>Go on the dole - no rent, no commute, £600 free money.
But thanks for your support, means a lot to me and I might try trade.
Broke because of a string of bad luck like health issues or bad investments? Or broke because you didn't take life seriously 10 years ago
This is the rich kid board. Your experience aligns with most people in their 30s.
If you were born white and in the US and just happen to be broke at 30, you fricked up.
porn => depression, sick fetishism, ruined young people
basically everything you need to undermine a country
aw sweet a /misc/ thread
Doing whatever the hell you want with your money is not a meme. You might have more money if you wait until your thirties, but you have to trade that off with delaying the social value of that experience. At some point money is just a number, and you'll be one dimensional if its all you have.
Please don’t listen to the tradcels that want you to waste your youth because of muh degeneracy, half of them are sub5s who cope with /misc/ and their non existent children
You're right. Just do what I do, which is to be a degenerate now and then reform in old age. Except for women, it's gross and wrong when they do it. They're not like us, they can't have children at 40 and 50 like we can.
No. I fell for this trap when I was younger. After my job went remote, I wanted to travel but I thought I could move home and save money and then at 30 I would travel. In the end that was a mistake. You can’t put off living your life until later.
I've had way more fun traveling in my 30's than I did in my 20's simply because I have more disposable income to be able to splurge and really enjoy myself while I'm taking a vacation. I am glad I did travel a bit in my teens and 20's, but my best trips have all been in my 30's.
>Is it true SighSee traveling in you 20s is just a meme?
i'm 35 now. I dropped out of college and lived in the Dominican Republic. It was the best time of my life and I increasingly feel like it's the best I will have. It was before smart phones and internet permeated into everything and turned local cultures into hollowed out money worship cults.
the world is only destroying itself more and more on a daily basis. local cultures are being replaced by smart phone hell and concrete.
If you wait you may truly miss something that wont come back. we can't optimize every function of our lives. we are not computers.
I just want to second this with every part of my soul. "One day" has a way of becoming "never" while you're not looking, and it will never be today again. Also, it's very presumptive to just assume you have time. Nothing is promised. Figure out what matters, and do it now.
Like all things it comes to location, and timing. Unsurprisingly low season is not the best time to meet tourist girls in hostels. I've had trips where I fricked more girls than the days I spent in country, and I've had trips where I got no b***hes.
>most girls travel with family or their boyfriends
Or in packs.
>the massive amount of single men of any age in any hostel making difficult for one on one time with a girl
1. You don't need one on one time until it's time to close the deal. 2. Learning how to close out other men is a skill, like game in general. You get better with practice.
All I'm saying is Bernard Hopkins won the IBF Light Heavyweight title, off a man 17 years younger than him, at the age of 48. If you're looking for reasons why you can't, the world is full of them. It's up to you to shut out the legions of voices giving you excuses, trying to cut you down, and find reasons why you can.
This place is full of underaged morons obsessed with sex so they'll all tell you to yolo and frick prostitutes in Thailand. Sexpats ruined this entire board, can't have a travel thread without mentioning prostitutes every other post.
for what its worth i traveled in my early and mid twenties
am early 30s now and have means and my tastes changed and have little interest in the travel i did as a twenty year old
i just travel to backpack and do outdoor stuff / hunt / fish now
when i backpacked and hosteled most of the people i met were older
dont fall for fomo, you gotta find your own thing its ok to be an introvert
Waiting for my 30s is my only option considering I'm a NEET at 26 years old who cant even drive
I only lurk SighSee because I like to live vicariously through people who have travelled.
I have to be a boomer, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding work right now. My current employer literally headhunted me on indeed
Get going on that resume homosexual
I don't even have a high school diploma
My life is fixable but it takes time and thats why I say I won't be travelling til my 30's
SighSee really does bring losers together
:3
travel is really not that big of a deal, you can travel every weekend without breaking the bank unless you're in literal nowhere maybe somewhere in the middle of the US, in europe every woman does trips and posts on instagram from milan or paris or some other gay shit
if you are no travelling its not because you dont have money youre just not commited to a place or are scared
if by travel you mean living without working for the rest of your life, then youre a homosexual american who has no work-life balance and has to beg his employer for some holiday time every year
>youre a homosexual american who has no work-life balance and has to beg his employer for some holiday time every year
Yeah this isn't how it actually works, unless you're a fricking loser with no job experience, education, or training, jobs need to offer competitive benefits to attract and keep people who are worth a damn.
My employer gives me 4 weeks PTO on top of 1 week state-mandated sick/personal time. Granted, one time when I decided I was going to take all four weeks back to back to enjoy some SighSee, they tried to play the "that's not every convenient for the company..." card, but since they have to pay out any unused PTO in the event I resign/get terminated, I just told them "I can take my vacation, come back, and continue to make this company money, or I can quit and you can pay for my vacation anyway."
You don't need big brother to fight your battles, IF you're not a complete pussy who knows how to negotiate and be assertive. The only people who cry about how unfair life is in the states are dregs who would've starved or gotten picked off by a fricking smilodon in the caveman days.
>travel is really not that big of a deal
Agreed. I'm not sure why so many Americans have so much anxiety over it; you can literally get from NYC or Miami to Rio or London, in the span of one wagie shift.
I also don't think a lot of people understand just how affordable travel can be; you can backpack/hostel comfortably for a year on $12-15K USD; one of the cheapest trips I've ever had was three months in the EU, did the Kungsleden and the Camino in the same trip, and spent the rest of my time fricking around in Spain and Portugal, seeing sights, smoking weed, drinking wine, and fricking girls.
>Yeah this isn't how it actually works, unless you're a fricking loser with no job experience, education, or training, jobs need to offer competitive benefits to attract and keep people who are worth a damn.
>My employer gives me 4 weeks PTO on top of 1 week state-mandated sick/personal time. Granted, one time when I decided I was going to take all four weeks back to back to enjoy some SighSee, they tried to play the "that's not every convenient for the company..." card, but since they have to pay out any unused PTO in the event I resign/get terminated, I just told them "I can take my vacation, come back, and continue to make this company money, or I can quit and you can pay for my vacation anyway."
>just larp as a 6 figure techgay bro
Yeah frick off, for 90% of people they are relegated to 1-2 weeks of vacation time. Theres always some homosexual in these threads that posts exceptions to the rule and simps for employers
>Yeah frick off
No, frick you.
>for 90% of people they are relegated to 1-2 weeks of vacation time
No. Frick you. Full stop, this is bullshit. If you have *any* meaningful education or training, if your life has any objective worth whatsoever, there are plentiful jobs that *start* at 2 weeks PTO. Dregs don't get shit because they're worth less than shit; your net worth is exactly that, a metric by which your worth is measured in tangible terms, and this applies even if, nay, especially if your net worth is in the negative; if you're such a worthless frick up that your net worth is in the negative, you are negatively impacting the lives of your neighbors purely by existing. See: Oregon
If you're a broke wagie with no ambition or purpose, then yeah, you don't get shit, because you don't deserve shit, because you are shit. You're literally just a cog in the machine to keep the whole thing running, until you find enough self respect to become something more. There's no shortage of copium out there trying to refute this but make no mistake, Durden was wrong; you *ARE* your job. This isn't meant to be a blackpill, this is meant to be a call to action to anyone who needs it to get their shit together.
>techgay
I work in finance, actually.
>simps for employers
My employer knows I'm one annoyance on the wrong day away from walking out the door and right into a lateral or better position at a competitor's firm. Because I'm not a fricking pussy and know how to negotiate and establish my own boundaries.
The problem is most people are terrified of change, which I get, there's comfort in the familiar, but what's the worst thing that could have happened to me when I dunked on my HR rep in the green text you're quoting, that I got told to pack up my desk and find a new job? So fricking what? My resume is polished and current, IDGAF.
I'll take a certain degree of uncertainty if it means the government is shoving it's dick into one less aspect of my life.
Cope and seethe didn’t read. Keep sucking off to Mr shekelsteins financial firm
>"didn't read"
>immediately outs self as having read it
Bro you can always just shut the frick up and take the L like a man; taking your ball and going home is the small dick move, but I don't blame you; I'm making really good points. Read. Don't read. I could care less. Your Marxist misinformation will get called to task every time.
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