People used to go there to start internet companies like Google or Apple
Now it's Austin or remote, so the place is maybe the most overrated place possible
Tons of ugly chicks/gold diggers around too
the actual city is a shithole, surrounding areas are either Hispanic or ridiculously expensive and pajeet. if you're a codemonkey and smart enough to learn neetcode you can make a fuckton of money tho
Anything else is flyover goyslop redneck trump town. When I move to europe or Japan it will be 100% better though. As a real traveler who's been to tokyo, Bangkok, and London it's just soooo much better than the USA. I could get food really cheap and my dollar went far compared to cities I listed.
LA, NYC, Miami >nice if you're worth millions
Seattle >shithole, used to be cool in the 90s
Portland >trans-hub
Boston >nice spot, but overrated unless you're going to an ivy league (for free)
San Fran >shit tier extreme
>Seattle >Portland
No. I've lived in both. They are soul-crushingly miserable and the homeless epidemic is out of control.
Yikes. Well this Real Traveler knows better I've been here during all covid doomposting. I know the US is shit but those cities are the last bastion of what anyone can actually consider to be 'America'. As someone versed in travel I can assure you the best option is to move. Once I get a job abroad as a bar tender I can settle down with a good white wife and raise a family in a real country with real culture like England, Switzerland, or Japan. It's physically impossible to do that in the US, I know I lived in 3 places in a large mega city and don't like it and have been overseas TWICE.
maybe to marry, but to fool around with they're pretty great if you can land them. If you can fuck in America, you can fuck anywhere. Means you're at least an 7 or an 8 in sex appeal to women. >inb4 hate
Seethe
Seattle area has a lot of natural beauty but I couldn't handle the weather. After 2 years had to get the fuck out. It's gray and wet 220 days a year and even the God tier summers don't make up for it
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Yikes. Well this Real Traveler knows better I've been here during all covid doomposting. I know the US is shit but those cities are the last bastion of what anyone can actually consider to be 'America'. As someone versed in travel I can assure you the best option is to move. Once I get a job abroad as a bar tender I can settle down with a good white wife and raise a family in a real country with real culture like England, Switzerland, or Japan. It's physically impossible to do that in the US, I know I lived in 3 places in a large mega city and don't like it and have been overseas TWICE.
>I could get food really cheap
As a European, no you couldn't. US is where the cheap food lives. Housing also really expensive here compared to US, along with fuel and car prices.
I don't know if your post is really subtle bait or not.
>What is Loudoun county
Urban sprawl sprawled out so far it can take over an hour to get to the city if there's traffic. Fuck Northern Virginia. Fuck all of you punk ass homosexual bitches moving to my home state. And fuck you for helping DC suburbs gobble up even more of what used to be pleasant, picturesque countryside.
I'm 33 and not very smart and make more than i ever thought I'd make (business bachelor's degree) and I'm still barely halfway to being considered wealthy in a LCOL city. Fuck
Raleigh certainly isn't. We got duped into thinking we were paying into a nicer neighborhood. Turns out they had stowed their basketball hoops while we were checking out the house and that they have 4-5 adults in each home to pay for it all.
>Are those numbers accurate? I don't imagine 20% of adults in metro Boston are making $350,000+ a year
Maybe it factors in the sheer numer of people that have access to that kind of wealth, not necessarily earning it.
Boston is full of people making $35k/year in a lab while their parents pay for everything
>Are those numbers accurate? I don't imagine 20% of adults in metro Boston are making $350,000+ a year
It's a weird metric, it's the mean (average) income of the entire top 20%. So in the case of San Francisco, it's skewed by the fact that it's a hundred people with eight-figure incomes averaged together with many thousands more making much less. Incomes are still plenty high there, but there are many, many more people earning $150-$300K than there are making $500K+. Almost certainly the same for the other cities on the list.
https://i.imgur.com/vFWpRFT.png
What USA cities are worth the cost of living?
There's no way for anybody here to calculate the ROI of a city for you. In my personal experience, with enough money either New York or San Francisco (the two on this list I know best) are absolutely worth living in, warts and all. and San Francisco at least is probably not worth it if you're struggling. It's painless to be rich in either.
I think the opposite end of the spectrum is actually harder to justify in some ways--the low COL of a lot of cheap cities doesn't do enough to make up for the fact that they don't have anything to offer. Indianapolis may be half the price of New York, but it's got a lot less than half the stuff.
redpill me on san jose
People used to go there to start internet companies like Google or Apple
Now it's Austin or remote, so the place is maybe the most overrated place possible
Tons of ugly chicks/gold diggers around too
the actual city is a shithole, surrounding areas are either Hispanic or ridiculously expensive and pajeet. if you're a codemonkey and smart enough to learn neetcode you can make a fuckton of money tho
LA
Seattle
Portland
NYC
Boston
Miami
San Fran
Anything else is flyover goyslop redneck trump town. When I move to europe or Japan it will be 100% better though. As a real traveler who's been to tokyo, Bangkok, and London it's just soooo much better than the USA. I could get food really cheap and my dollar went far compared to cities I listed.
LA, NYC, Miami
>nice if you're worth millions
Seattle
>shithole, used to be cool in the 90s
Portland
>trans-hub
Boston
>nice spot, but overrated unless you're going to an ivy league (for free)
San Fran
>shit tier extreme
Yikes. Well this Real Traveler knows better I've been here during all covid doomposting. I know the US is shit but those cities are the last bastion of what anyone can actually consider to be 'America'. As someone versed in travel I can assure you the best option is to move. Once I get a job abroad as a bar tender I can settle down with a good white wife and raise a family in a real country with real culture like England, Switzerland, or Japan. It's physically impossible to do that in the US, I know I lived in 3 places in a large mega city and don't like it and have been overseas TWICE.
Sigh... if only people here knew...
Good bait but American women are unironically all disgusting.
maybe to marry, but to fool around with they're pretty great if you can land them. If you can fuck in America, you can fuck anywhere. Means you're at least an 7 or an 8 in sex appeal to women.
>inb4 hate
Seethe
Seattle area has a lot of natural beauty but I couldn't handle the weather. After 2 years had to get the fuck out. It's gray and wet 220 days a year and even the God tier summers don't make up for it
>Seattle
>Portland
No. I've lived in both. They are soul-crushingly miserable and the homeless epidemic is out of control.
Quality bait.
>I could get food really cheap
As a European, no you couldn't. US is where the cheap food lives. Housing also really expensive here compared to US, along with fuel and car prices.
I don't know if your post is really subtle bait or not.
tbf american food is full of fillers and additives, hence why its called "goyslop"
>US is where the cheap food lives
Compared to somewhere like Germany
DC, particularly if you live in the suburbs. Has several of the wealthiest counties in the country and an extremely reliable economy.
Maybe if you like always being within earshot of the highway
>What is Loudoun county
Idiot
>What is Loudoun county
Urban sprawl sprawled out so far it can take over an hour to get to the city if there's traffic. Fuck Northern Virginia. Fuck all of you punk ass homosexual bitches moving to my home state. And fuck you for helping DC suburbs gobble up even more of what used to be pleasant, picturesque countryside.
I'm 33 and not very smart and make more than i ever thought I'd make (business bachelor's degree) and I'm still barely halfway to being considered wealthy in a LCOL city. Fuck
Raleigh certainly isn't. We got duped into thinking we were paying into a nicer neighborhood. Turns out they had stowed their basketball hoops while we were checking out the house and that they have 4-5 adults in each home to pay for it all.
>average income
I hope they mean average household income, because if you are making more than $120k a year per person I would consider that rich.
>because if you are making more than $120k a year per person I would consider that rich
120K is what it takes to have a middle class lifestyle now
is buffalo nice?
No. That's why it's dirt cheap.
It always heartens me to know that the good cities with moderate and low COL rarely show up on these types of lists
It's one of the Rust Belt cities. I'll let you ponder on that fact.
San Diego and maybe Austin if you’re under ~30
Are those numbers accurate? I don't imagine 20% of adults in metro Boston are making $350,000+ a year
>Are those numbers accurate? I don't imagine 20% of adults in metro Boston are making $350,000+ a year
Maybe it factors in the sheer numer of people that have access to that kind of wealth, not necessarily earning it.
Boston is full of people making $35k/year in a lab while their parents pay for everything
>Are those numbers accurate? I don't imagine 20% of adults in metro Boston are making $350,000+ a year
It's a weird metric, it's the mean (average) income of the entire top 20%. So in the case of San Francisco, it's skewed by the fact that it's a hundred people with eight-figure incomes averaged together with many thousands more making much less. Incomes are still plenty high there, but there are many, many more people earning $150-$300K than there are making $500K+. Almost certainly the same for the other cities on the list.
There's no way for anybody here to calculate the ROI of a city for you. In my personal experience, with enough money either New York or San Francisco (the two on this list I know best) are absolutely worth living in, warts and all. and San Francisco at least is probably not worth it if you're struggling. It's painless to be rich in either.
I think the opposite end of the spectrum is actually harder to justify in some ways--the low COL of a lot of cheap cities doesn't do enough to make up for the fact that they don't have anything to offer. Indianapolis may be half the price of New York, but it's got a lot less than half the stuff.
The whole place can get fucked. Fucking cesspool at 4 times the price of the developing world where life is better.