What's the story with Singapore?
Is it fun to travel there?
Is it fun to live there?
How are the locals?
How are the women?
What's the story with Singapore? Is it fun to travel there? Is it fun to live there? How are the locals?
What's the story with Singapore?
Is it fun to travel there?
Is it fun to live there?
How are the locals?
How are the women?
>What's the story with Singapore?
Left the Union of Malaya before Malaysian independence was finalized because they didn’t want to implement affirmative action laws they saw as benefiting ethnic Malays at the expense of the ethnic Chinese who were (and remain) the majority of the Singaporean population. Highly functional, wealthy, semi-democratic, low-corruption city-state, with little in common with any of its Southeast Asian neighbors.
>Is it fun to travel there?
>Is it fun to live there?
It can be rather boring for either of the above. It’s small, expensive, and a bit sterile in some ways. I only spent two six-month temporary assignments there, but I have a bunch of friends who are (semi-)permanent expats there, and the quality of life is very high, but one of the best things about living there is easy access to cheaper and arguably more interesting parts of Asia.
>How are the locals?
Mostly Southern Chinese. Materialist, fussy, neurotic in some interesting ways (it’s a city with intense rules and regulations, and neighbors don’t hesitate to report each other for real or perceived offenses), generally OK. The local dialect of English is very melodious among the posh, can be grating among the masses.
>How are the women?
Locals, or the thousands of Filipina “helpers” who do all the domestic work and childcare? Or the expats? Something like 40% of the population of SG is made up of foreigners. The expat crowd is similar in some ways to those you might find in Malaysia or among the white-collar/diplomatic corps sliver of the foreign population in
Thailand (ie, not the English teachers, bottom feeders, or hippies)—a lot of Australians and English, smaller numbers of Americans and other Europeans. Richer and more careerist/ambitious than in some parts of Asia, with almost no effort made to blend in or escape expat bubbles. People are there for their jobs, nobody expects to stay forever. They work a lot, spend a lot, drink a lot.
Great write-up
>Left the Union of Malaya before Malaysian independence was finalize
They were united for a couple of years but Malaysia kicked them out against what the Singaporean government wanted, thinking they wouldn't do well being a tiny city state with no resources and would come crawling back not long after on the terms Malaysia wanted. Indonesia was first opposed to both Malaysia and Singapore being states because they wanted the whole place united under them, so the British kept nukes in Singapore for a while so Indonesia didn't try anything. Also before independence there was a bit of commie killing done (based). Funny little bit of history really
There were also “race riots,” a lot of Malay v Chinese ethnic violence. It’s one of the reasons Singapore has such draconian laws. But an interesting footnote to Singapore’s expulsion from Malaysia is that more than a few Singaporeans believe that Lee Kwan Yew was actually hoping/planning to leave but didn’t think there would be enough popular support, so the PAP supposedly engineered getting kicked out behind the scenes. May just be nationalist mythology, but it’s widely believed among LKY worshippers.
>But an interesting footnote to Singapore’s expulsion from Malaysia is that more than a few Singaporeans believe that Lee Kwan Yew was actually hoping/planning to leave but didn’t think there would be enough popular support, so the PAP supposedly engineered getting kicked out behind the scenes. May just be nationalist mythology, but it’s widely believed among LKY worshippers.
Nah, definitely not. Understanding of economics and such was very different 60 years ago. No one seriously considered that a city state would prosper or even survive without a hinterland to feed it
great and à useful informations
What do u advise someone who want to work out there?? Note I applied online but can’t find a work contract, but it easy to travel there,
>> what’s the first steps??
What I have to do in the airport niece I reach Singapore things to tell the officer,
And do you think it is convenient to travel there and looking for job ??? Your answer will be appreciated thanks,
>What do u advise someone who want to work out there?? Note I applied online but can’t find a work contract, but it easy to travel there,
Everyone I know there traveled in through a multinational they were already working for in their home countries.
> what’s the first steps??
>What I have to do in the airport niece I reach Singapore things to tell the officer,
You tell him or her that you are a tourist, and you have a return ticket in your possession. Particularly if you’re coming from India, the Philippines, or China—they’re very suspicious of people coming in to work illegally from these three countries especially.
>And do you think it is convenient to travel there and looking for job ??? Your answer will be appreciated thanks,
Maybe? I don’t personally know anyone who’s done it that way, and once you get an offer you might have to leave and come back again to get the right visa, but it’s not illegal to apply for jobs beforehand as far as I know. What kind of work are you in?
>What kind of work are you in?
Not him, but I'm also curious and in B2B sales right now. Any chances?
>Not him, but I'm also curious and in B2B sales right now. Any chances?
I have no idea. But a lot of multinationals have Southeast Asian regional HQs in Singapore, so if you’re good at selling whatever the hell you sell 2 Southeast Asian Bs you might have a shot.
>> working in many industries such as restaurants/ deli/ retailers and even cashiers and sale associate too,
>>Note now I am an English teacher,..
thanks anon, other than passing through on a navy port visit nearly 20 years ago, I haven’t been back, now I’m curious
Singaporean here, the women are decent. To be fair most of the stories I hear about white women are from SighSee, but most local girls are nowhere near that bad.
As a sidenote there's a surprisingly large number of us on SighSee. I popped by /misc/ last week out of curiosity and saw an SG flag in the first thread I clicked on.
Are there a lot of white women?
I'm travelling there soon, and was hoping to avoid white roasties.
Not really unless they are professional and if they are, they're likely not interested in you
I spent 2 years in Singapore and the memories of the women still make me want to vomit.
Beautiful city though, and fantastic food.
What's wrong with the women? I was hoping to find a qt to show me around.
Materialistic c**ts for the most part
what matters is what's on the inside anon
>I spent 2 years in Singapore and the memories of the women still make me want to vomit.
Please elaborate
Do southern Chinese people really look like this? I've run into some real Chinese stunners living on the east coast of the US. Surely there are many I'll find attractive?
This is what the average Asian woman looks like though...
Oh no, yellow fever bros..
Singapore fell off hard in recent years.
How so
Every white dude who lives there is making big bucks and tends to flex it, so if you are a coomer loser living on your crypto savings and trying to stretch your money, everyone will notice and avoid.
White men are held to a much higher standard in Singapore in general, appearance presentation and personality wise. Basically you will have problems if you think you can fo the typical kick back and let them come to you bit that works in places like PH, unless you are ridiculously attractive.
I've been trying to figure out how to dress well in 101% humidity.
The trick is to resign yourself to suffering and do your best to not show your misery.
shorts, flip-flops, and either a button up T or a regular t shirt.
Also check the weather forecast for rain. You do NOT want to be caught outside in Singaporean torrential rain
Singapore has probably been the biggest travel let-down for me so far. I like Hong Kong, but really don't like Dubai, and Singapore is kinda like Dubai and Hong Kong had a baby.
I can see it being ok to live in because it's safe and you have city life and easy access to a lot of leisure, but for a tourist who isn't interested in shopping malls, underwhelming food, and tourism geared towards people that give Madame Tussauds 5 star reviews, it's pretty dull and soulless, and I'd probably rather go to Toronto.
Probably better if you're travelling with a partner, but not great solo. I wish I'd gone earlier before all the street hawkers got castrated and replaced by generic food courts.
This was my experience as well. Some fun things to do over a couple days, easily a good stop-over/layover city but nothing really stands out tourism-wise.
The brief time I lived there though was the best time of my life. Very clean and easy to use transportation, everyone follows the rules, great food, and if you want to coom Geylang is always just a couple stations away
It makes burnout hippies, dirtbags, and sex tourists seethe because they went to SEA expecting to boss poor people around, only to find out that (a) surprise you're the poors! and (b) most of the things they came for are unavailable or rather expensive for a lower middle class loser
They will usually hide behind "it's boring! it's uhhhthoruhteriums! disneyland with the DEATH penalty!!~!~!~!~!!~" and this is how you know
But it is extremely boring, anon. Hong Kong and Tokyo are both infinitely more fun places to blow a lot of money.
Never said otherwise, but broke druggie pedo sex pests aren't usually shopping for tokyo and some random pedo destination in the same trip, in their head they are always comparing it to a place within about an hour's flying distance or less
didn't you imply that people who call it boring are the druggie pedo sex pests? Do they not teach prop logic in singapore?
nice fantasy but there are precisely 0 lower middle class losers going to singapore on holiday from the west expecting to to be a cheap brothel
Some cities are great for tourism, some are great for living, singapore is the latter, as is, say, Taipei. I match 5 10 girls as a below average man, pretty much on the daily in Singapore too, so cooming isnt a problem either.
It's not even that expensive for your average backpacker since you'll always find relatively cheap hotels, and food at reasonable price. It's just that it's boring, you're not partying, there's no night scene or streets to go to at night. Even geylang is boring.
t. pedo tourist
seems like only dick is on your mind though, are you a homosexual?
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Local here, hope this answers some questions.
>Is it fun to travel there?
Depends on what you want to do here. We got plenty of beautiful sights and plenty of good food. Singapore's entire aesthetic is a big clean city which could be dull for a lot of people.
Unless you are a huge foodie or an Instagram prostitute, Singapore is not really a country for you.
>Is it fun to live there?
Nope, everyday is an endless soulless hustle for money. Dog eat dog mindset among everybody struggling to stay alive. We have people in their 60s/70s working fast food just to make ends meet.
Very strict laws with even harsher punishments.
Transport is efficient save for the occasional train breakdown.
With everything costing so damn much here, 90% of the trash tourist can't afford to shit up the country so it's alright generally.
On the bright side, it's the only country in SEA that i can take a stroll at 3am without getting worried about getting mugged/stabbed.
>How are the locals?
What locals?
50% of the people here are expats/cheap foreign labor. Their only objective is to hustle for a few years in Singapore and go back home to spend the money.
Most people in Singapore generally go with the flow and cause no trouble. Don't bother us and we won't bother you kind of mindset.
>How are the women?
Stable, educated career driven women.
Traditional mindset mostly with some western values.
If your main objective is to frick then give Singapore a pass. Prostitution in Singapore in itself is not illegal, but various prostitution-related activities are criminalized. Our brothels are regulated by the government and it's exactly as horrible/boring as it sounds. (Also all the women working there are foreigners from various parts of SEA)
There's a damn good reason why most men here would travel down to Malaysia or Thailand for a few days/over the weekend.
>Unless you are a huge foodie
what is so special about it? what makes it more than just asian food we have already ate in the other asian countries we have been to?
>what is so special about it? what makes it more than just asian food we have already ate in the other asian countries we have been to?
Not the guy you’re asking, but Straits Chinese/Malaysian/Singaporean cooking really is very good, and some dishes more or less unique; it’s a fusion of Southern Chinese, Southeast Asian, Indian, and other influences. It’s similar in some respects to neighboring cuisines, but it’s got its own style. And Singapore is also rich enough to have very high-quality versions of a lot of international cuisines, which is not always the case in other parts of Southeast Asia (speaking as an ancient SEA hand who’s been going back and forth to the region for more than thirty years at this point, European food in general was mostly shit in Thailand until surprisingly recently, for example).
All that said, most of the best and most emblematic dishes in Singaporean cooking can be also had in Malaysia for half the price. The few celebrated local dishes that don’t have roots in Penang are probably probably either Min Chinese or Tamil, but in SG you won’t get hepatitis or lead poisoning or dysentery trying to eat them.
This anon
summed it up really well.
Singapore is a mixture a variety of races and people from various countries. On top of the 4 majorities (Chinese, Malay, Indians, Caucasian) there are also restaurants catering to Vietnamese/Thai/Japanese/Korean flavors.
You could legit eat all the cuisine within Asia in a few days just by being in Singapore made by a chef from that country with authentic ingredients imported over.
Want authentic Local cuisine?
We have that in the neighborhoods and heartlands.
Need something fancier?
We got over 200 restaurants in the Michelin guide.
Too lazy to leave your hotel?
Have food delivery pick up stuff for you straight from the restaurant of your choosing.
>Malaysia for half the price.
Sadly yes, we've been hit hard with inflation and landlords driving up the rent after the pandemic. (The average price of a small store in the heartlands is now upward of 10k sgd per month)
>In SG you won’t get hepatitis or lead poisoning or dysentery from food.
Also correct as all places selling food need to have a license and all food handlers need to go for a certification course (Renewed once every 2/3 years)
>If your main objective is to frick then give Singapore a pass
What if I want to hang out with a local qt for a couple of days?
Sinkie here, can corroborate
Just want to add that alcohol is taxed to hell so it's really expensive, and bringing in drugs get you hanged.
If you make big bucks and are white you can probably get a local woman to make hapa babies with.
>Alcohol is expensive
Great. Alcoholism is a fricking plague in the modern world, and one wienertail is more than enough.
>bringing in drugs get you hanged.
Based. Everything that caused people to move to singapore was caused by drugs.
>If you make big bucks and are white you can probably get a local woman to make hapa babies with.
Being white is more than enough.
>Great. Alcoholism is a fricking plague in the modern world, and one wienertail is more than enough.
Based
Is it worth living there with my wife and starting a family? I despise Europe and I am trying to go to the US. If I can't go to the USA then I was thinking of trying Singapore.
I think you can only really make that decision based on any ACTUAL job prospects or offer. Just think about what is your problem with Europe that moving to Singapore would solve? I can't really think of any from the usual gripes..
There is still a 15% Muslim population
There is still a large state (that is usually complained about by Europeans (incl. me compared to the US) albeit it seems to manifest itself in different ways -
Stricter laws/punishment
I am pretty sure there is a 25% enforced savings rate on all income which pays for your welfare state (the savings pot is more individual than a western one)
You're still going to have housing problems, i.e. private is ridiculously expensive, or there is a kind of public scheme for most housing for citizens that has race quotas, wait times
I guess the low crime rate is nice, but really, the average crime in my village in the UK is some 80 year old woman posting on the village facebook page that she saw a "suspicious male" in the village, who is only suspicious because he was walking out alone after dark (it gets dark at 4pm in winter)
Perhaps you'll see fewer gay flags as well
Man this post is something I could have written. On one hand I am satisfied that other people also see what I see, on the other hand the escape door is only so wide and if everyone starts rushing there... getting into the US is hard. And Singapore is beautiful.
>wife and family
If one or both of you has a well-paid international job, why not? I’m the anon from above who has a number of expat friends living more-or-less permanently in SG; of these, two couples are parents of relatively young kids. Seems totally OK. It’s clean, safe, convenient, Singaporeans mostly like children. It can be very expensive, though—private/international schools are steep as hell, and the popular model of in-home Filipina nannies/maids/“helpers” probably only works if you have a particularly generous expat package from your employers.
And speaking as an expat father in Switzerland (a Singapore of Europe, like Luxembourg), it can be pretty weird to bring up “third culture kids” surrounded in large part by fellow expats—people are always coming and going for their jobs, so childhood friends will come and go; they’ll probably be well-traveled and have experience of diverse languages and cultures from early on, which I believe is a gift on most levels, but they’re unlikely to truly integrate into their home. And they may not be exposed to much in the way of socioeconomic diversity even if their classmates are from sixty countries, which I personally think is kind of a shortcoming. My own kids’ best friends are from all over the world, but they’re all upper-middle-class or rich by global standards.
Of course, I do have my kids in an international school, which may not be necessary in Singapore assuming your kids speak (or will speak?) English. But it’s not easy to become Singaporean, nor is there jus soli citizenship, so your kids will be citizens of wherever you and their mom are from by default even if they are born in SG. And if your family chooses (and is eligible) to naturalize, Singapore is one of not that many countries that officially explicitly prohibit dual citizenship. It’s almost certainly unenforceable in practice but you’re expected to renounce whatever other citizenship(s) you might hold.
What sort of education/university major could lead to a well-paid job in Singapore would say?
>Convert to Islam
>Spend 8 years in country of choice (saudi arabia preferably as salafism exports itself better, but you can always pretend you're not a salafi, no need to be a hardliner) studying the scriptures, learning the quran by heart, and overall having a good time
>Become a well versed respected scholar
>Can earn upwards of 200usd/hour of consultation online + money as a "minister"(imam) of a mosque + punctual expertise sessions and invitations to paid conferences.
>As you are a beloved member of islam by muslims, go to your SEA country of choice
>Find a woman in the poorer more fanatic areas of SEA
>Be upfront with your desire of marrying a second wife
>You're filthy fricking rich so the poor girls will just say yes
>You now have four wives, which you can get bored off and divorce, condoms are halal in islam, and alimony will cost a fricking penny.
>If you're tired of paying alimony just leave and go to another place, which brings me to the next point
>You're a literal salafi cheikh, nobody will give a frick if you don't pay alimony as it is almost expected of you to disregard the laws of the country for sharia law (and sharia law doesn't include alimony, only repayment of the dowry)
>If you lose popularity or you get bored of a certain type of pussy simply rinse and repeat in another country
>Buy gigantic house
>Alimony or not, invite all male sons in your house, make them work to send money to their mothers (your ex wives)
>Create a literal tribe of strong men dedicated to upholding your honor and taking care of you just as you took care of them
>Retire
>Be cared for by your tribe of Banu Furchan
>Die
>High-five Gabriel as you enter Heaven
Why wouldn't it work ? Seriously. Fool proof cooming.
>only pedophiles think Singapore is boring!
Kek. Why is every little turd on the internet such a black and white extremist these days? Just because somebody doesn't like the soulless bug hibe vibe Singapore has doesn't mean they want to frick kids, jfc.
>Grandfather lived there around 15 years ago
>Left but never paid his taxes before he left
>Nobody is sure if he can go back and everyone is too scared to travel their themselves because of the whole "inherited crime" shit
I was there while he was and it was a nice place. hot as all frick.
its a wealth filter
green is the only color in singapore
brown/yellow/black/arab with money
brokie
literally a millionaires playground, stayed at MBS and dropped $700+ a night
if you want a freer version of singapore go visit kuala lumpur malaysia up the road, your money goes 3x as far and you get 70% of singapores benefits
How can you get 70% of Singapore's benefits by staying in Kuala Lumpur, when 100% of Singapore's benefit is not being surrounded by poors?
are you moronic? Singapore has no minimum wage and imports slaves from the third world by the thousands, you can see poor people everywhere.
You aren't living around them though, they are serving you. In KL you are actually living around them, probably.
Kuala Lumpur made a great impression on me, but I never left the strict city center around Petronas Towers. Having spent quite some time in Thailand, I expect "normal" Malaysia to be a bit like Thailand - things being kinda done, but not really, stuff kinda working, but not really... is that true?
Malaysia is far, far ahead of Thailand. I was just around a bunch of the country last month. Some parts are definitely rougher and poorer, but it's way above the Thai baseline. Poor areas in Malaysia are like old run down strip mall suburbs in the US, minus the fentanyl. Bad parts of Thailand are run down third world shitholes on meth, in the literal sense.
Nothing anywhere in Malaysia stuck out as dangerous, dirty, or shockingly undeveloped. It wasn't hard to find absolutely disgusting areas everywhere else in SE Asia though.
So what is there to do in KL
Planes all around the country are cheap and frequent, so getting to nature isn't difficult. Batu Caves were way better than I expected. There are neat mosques and other temples to visit. I suppose it really depends on what you want to do, but it offers basically whatever other cities in the region offer, but far cheaper than Singapore and cleaner than elsewhere in SE Asia.
Food is by far my favorite in the region. Nice blend of Indian and Thai style food, but restaurants are better maintained than both and it's somehow even cheaper than Thailand.
>Batu Caves
Have you also been to Am Basins ?
What's the catch?
woah... seven HUNDRED dollars a night? That is some serious MILLIONAIRE money right there bro
Singapore was a major disappointment. It might be clean and safe, but I'd much rather go to New York or London. Singapore is like a Monaco of Asia, really dull.
I've never been to New York, but having lived in London for 2 years I cannot for the life of me understand why would anyone choose that city over Singapore. London makes me want to pull my eyes out.
I've got four days in Singapore next month. I'm thinking
1. Tour bus, bay gardens
2. Zoo
3. Sentosa/Universal
4. Wandering the streets
Fully expecting rain to ruin my plans.
I wouldnt miss the botanic garden over the bay
Eat all the food
Botanical gardens, zoo, Sentosa, marina bay
What should I expect to spend daily?
I will waste money on disappointing wienertails and petty luxuries.