AirBnB's best days are behind them. They just became a shittier version of hotels.
It is no longer cheap (no $50 rooms) and is full of megacorporations with no customer service hocking rooms in the ghetto.
A hotel is now the same price for better service. The fate of every "disruption" app is to be a shittier version of whatever they were meant to replace.
indeed. just like how uber is more expensive than taxis now.
I used airbnb like 2014-2018 and it was nice. Full apartments and condos in downtown locations for less than $100 a night.
Now it's garbage. Decent places are like $200-300 a night.
If it's the same as a hotel then I'll stay in a hotel. Ok it may not have a kitchen or feel like you are a local resident but at least no hassle with checking in and finding the place and the risk of it being shit.
>it may not have a kitchen or feel like you are a local resident but at least no hassle with checking in
I'll take a 24 hour desk over a kitchen any day. Not to mention how many air bnbs will cancel on you last minute.
And then have a list of chores you're supposed to do on checkout even though you're paying a "cleaning fee" that costs as much as one night of the stay.
The only real advantage is you can get a normal house which is nice when you want a kitchen, or to not be in a motel with the tweakers
But yes, covid totally changed it and a lot has to do with shutdowns that occurred.
1. When hotels closed, a lot of airbnb's quietly continued renting rooms at a jacked up price. When that ended, the owners realized they could simply continue doing that and people would come. That encouraged more people to do the same. Low interest rates encouraged people to buy houses specifically with the intent of using them as airbnbs.
2. When covid started airbnb's started charging fees to sanitize everything in the room because people were afraid of covid on surfaces. They owners realized they could continue to charge those fees.
3. Airbnbs used to kind of look the other way about large numbers of guests as long as it didn't degrade the property. Authorities started getting on their case about parties during covid. Now, owners are much more likely to cancel your booking if they think you have people visit.
It sucks.
Wrong, I only stay in airbnbs when they are cheap, $10 to $25 per night for an apartment
Methinks you spoiled brats only travel to shitholes like London or NYC for drugs and cooming.
I got a negative review from a Canadian host in Vancouver for "leaving the place a mess". By this she meant not doing things like hoovering in the floor . I paid a 100 dollar cleaning fee when I booked.
I still prefer Uber over taxis. I can at least give the Uber driver a bad review if he smells like curry and BO and plays hamba damba damba music the whole way.
indeed. just like how uber is more expensive than taxis now.
I used airbnb like 2014-2018 and it was nice. Full apartments and condos in downtown locations for less than $100 a night.
Now it's garbage. Decent places are like $200-300 a night.
If it's the same as a hotel then I'll stay in a hotel. Ok it may not have a kitchen or feel like you are a local resident but at least no hassle with checking in and finding the place and the risk of it being shit.
>it may not have a kitchen or feel like you are a local resident but at least no hassle with checking in
I'll take a 24 hour desk over a kitchen any day. Not to mention how many air bnbs will cancel on you last minute.
is airbnb really that much worse now?
i used it in various countries in europe and america in 2017-2019 and it was always a nice 1 bedroom with kitchen, sometimes extra nice bathroom + balcony in a good location for less than the price of a hotel in the same area
how much cheaper it was depended on the circumstances but it was overall the better option everytime
The only real advantage is you can get a normal house which is nice when you want a kitchen, or to not be in a motel with the tweakers
But yes, covid totally changed it and a lot has to do with shutdowns that occurred.
1. When hotels closed, a lot of airbnb's quietly continued renting rooms at a jacked up price. When that ended, the owners realized they could simply continue doing that and people would come. That encouraged more people to do the same. Low interest rates encouraged people to buy houses specifically with the intent of using them as airbnbs.
2. When covid started airbnb's started charging fees to sanitize everything in the room because people were afraid of covid on surfaces. They owners realized they could continue to charge those fees.
3. Airbnbs used to kind of look the other way about large numbers of guests as long as it didn't degrade the property. Authorities started getting on their case about parties during covid. Now, owners are much more likely to cancel your booking if they think you have people visit.
What are you talking about. I went to Paris, Amsterdam, Seoul, and Tokyo this year and never spent more than $25 a night. If you just set your price filter there's always at least a few options. If you are fine staying in a hostel then there are a shitload
AirBnB does fucking suck now though because there service always shits itself and the support is the worst ive ever experienced. A while ago I spent a month staying somewhere (~$1200) and got double charged so I contacted them to get a refund. Literally 8 support pajeets and 11 hours on the phone and their final resolution was to offer me a refund for 20% of ONE night. I said "are you fucking serious" and they hung up bc i used profanity. Had to go through credit card to get my money back.
then you're getting a single room or even worse a shared room. If you're doing that then may as well stay at a hostel/guesthouse. At least there you will probably meet some cool people and have a good time.
My aunt lives there so I said I had to go to Japan to help take care of her toddler and they gave me a visa.
then you're getting a single room or even worse a shared room. If you're doing that then may as well stay at a hostel/guesthouse. At least there you will probably meet some cool people and have a good time.
yeah one of those was a hostel, the rest were single rooms with a private bathroom. kinda wish i made the rest hostels as well, I made a cool friend there. I'd only rent a whole place if I was staying long term. I forget the point I was trying to make, but i think it still stands
I'm thinking about using them for the first time over hotel in about a month, if I book a entire place can I have friends over but not sleep over when I book as 1 guest? The prices did seem cheap at first until I saw there was a service/cleaning fee attached and then it ended up being the same as a hotel so I lost a bit of interest.
Oh yeah I always thought it was some sort of absurdist joke and pitiful detachment from reality that host could leave reviews for ME, THE CUSTOMER. WHO THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? NOBODY REVIEWS ME, NOBODY. I AM THE REVIEWER NOT THE REVIEWEE.
It made sense when it was a peer to peer thing with airbnb as a much smaller entity inbetween them, but nowadays half of the rentals are from big estate agencies and the other half is mostly made up of people who run airbns as a business. It made sense when it was mostly just some guy with a spare room who didn't need to set it up for foreigners, with aribnb taking care of it, and people reviewing each other, but now it's just shit. Had one cunt leave me a bad review for "leaving the place" dirty even though I paid almost 15 euros for cleaning in a place where local average wage is probably not much higher than 250, with minimum being much less than that lmao
As travelers, we would be in hotels, or on one of half a dozen similar platforms.
Locals in cities that have had their rental markets hollowed out by short-term rental profiteers would be in more affordable apartments in more desirable neighborhoods.
Used it twice when the hype was huge. Didn’t like it. I just don’t like to be in someone’s home, when I travel. Even a mountain hut for hikers in which everybody sleeps in the same room was a better experience.
I don’t want to deal with hosts, I don’t want to deal with shitty attempts at room decor, shitty mattresses and paper-thin walls. I know not all places are like that, but it’s just not my thing.
Also airbnb ruined my city; everybody rents out which makes locals life quite sucky.
It's not bad if you rent a flat. But their going rates are extremely inflated. I was staying in a city center studio in Valencia last spring and summer, paying €540 + <60 in bills with my girlfriend, splitting the expenses evenly. So I never paid more than €300 per month. Only shitty expense was paying the letting agency something like €200 as a one off fee. I was there for 4 months, so I thought of it as an additional €25 per month. So €325 for the accommodation itself. In the same city the equivalent (never in as good as a location) went for around €1000 per month minimum. Anything decent was at least plus €200. It genuinely fucks up the prices. It's like a touristic quarter of the city, where the restaurants cost as much as four times the regular prices for inferior food and worse service, serving people who are deadly scared of trying to order without knowing the language, except now it's the whole city and the locals are now resorting to never eating out at all and all the restaurants now sell shitty microwaved food.
I left it out, but I was renting through a letting agency. It's even better if you can rent directly as it should cut the inbetweener fees. I didn't mind as everything was handled in good order. The only problem I experienced was that I needed to pester them for five weeks to receive my deposit and threaten to denounce them to police, but even then it would still be cheaper if I somehow didn't recover it.
Haha that's funny. Why didn't you buy a house when they were cheap? Now you can be poor the rest of your life . Haha imagine paying an extra $ million in rent because of airbnb because you fell for muh property tax meme
A hostel, Hotel, or other accommodation for spending rest in.
Probably paying cheap rent to my parents and saving money instead of getting pushed out by them.
Well I probably wouldn't be able to afford to travel full time with barely any work, but I don't think i've ever actually stayed at an airbnb.
Get a job and buy your house you dumb fucking cunts.
cheaper housing prices.
Probably save in our houses instead of thrown out.
>Our houses
Lmao you commies thought my house was your house and fell for muh property tax meme. Did you learn your lesson? No
AirBnB's best days are behind them. They just became a shittier version of hotels.
It is no longer cheap (no $50 rooms) and is full of megacorporations with no customer service hocking rooms in the ghetto.
A hotel is now the same price for better service. The fate of every "disruption" app is to be a shittier version of whatever they were meant to replace.
indeed. just like how uber is more expensive than taxis now.
I used airbnb like 2014-2018 and it was nice. Full apartments and condos in downtown locations for less than $100 a night.
Now it's garbage. Decent places are like $200-300 a night.
If it's the same as a hotel then I'll stay in a hotel. Ok it may not have a kitchen or feel like you are a local resident but at least no hassle with checking in and finding the place and the risk of it being shit.
>it may not have a kitchen or feel like you are a local resident but at least no hassle with checking in
I'll take a 24 hour desk over a kitchen any day. Not to mention how many air bnbs will cancel on you last minute.
And then have a list of chores you're supposed to do on checkout even though you're paying a "cleaning fee" that costs as much as one night of the stay.
I've never seen a list of chores
Wrong, I only stay in airbnbs when they are cheap, $10 to $25 per night for an apartment
Methinks you spoiled brats only travel to shitholes like London or NYC for drugs and cooming.
What are you talking about? I never clean anything.
I got a negative review from a Canadian host in Vancouver for "leaving the place a mess". By this she meant not doing things like hoovering in the floor . I paid a 100 dollar cleaning fee when I booked.
dealing with cunts is part of the experience in visiting this lovely town
>indeed. just like how uber is more expensive than taxis now.
I used a taxi recently and am going back to Uber
holy fuck that was bad (florida)
I still prefer Uber over taxis. I can at least give the Uber driver a bad review if he smells like curry and BO and plays hamba damba damba music the whole way.
is airbnb really that much worse now?
i used it in various countries in europe and america in 2017-2019 and it was always a nice 1 bedroom with kitchen, sometimes extra nice bathroom + balcony in a good location for less than the price of a hotel in the same area
how much cheaper it was depended on the circumstances but it was overall the better option everytime
The only real advantage is you can get a normal house which is nice when you want a kitchen, or to not be in a motel with the tweakers
But yes, covid totally changed it and a lot has to do with shutdowns that occurred.
1. When hotels closed, a lot of airbnb's quietly continued renting rooms at a jacked up price. When that ended, the owners realized they could simply continue doing that and people would come. That encouraged more people to do the same. Low interest rates encouraged people to buy houses specifically with the intent of using them as airbnbs.
2. When covid started airbnb's started charging fees to sanitize everything in the room because people were afraid of covid on surfaces. They owners realized they could continue to charge those fees.
3. Airbnbs used to kind of look the other way about large numbers of guests as long as it didn't degrade the property. Authorities started getting on their case about parties during covid. Now, owners are much more likely to cancel your booking if they think you have people visit.
It sucks.
False, I'm in the coziest 25$ room right now, with the owners being some kind old folk and their daughter.
What are you talking about. I went to Paris, Amsterdam, Seoul, and Tokyo this year and never spent more than $25 a night. If you just set your price filter there's always at least a few options. If you are fine staying in a hostel then there are a shitload
AirBnB does fucking suck now though because there service always shits itself and the support is the worst ive ever experienced. A while ago I spent a month staying somewhere (~$1200) and got double charged so I contacted them to get a refund. Literally 8 support pajeets and 11 hours on the phone and their final resolution was to offer me a refund for 20% of ONE night. I said "are you fucking serious" and they hung up bc i used profanity. Had to go through credit card to get my money back.
then you're getting a single room or even worse a shared room. If you're doing that then may as well stay at a hostel/guesthouse. At least there you will probably meet some cool people and have a good time.
>Tokyo this year
How nigga? The borders were closed majority of the time.
My aunt lives there so I said I had to go to Japan to help take care of her toddler and they gave me a visa.
yeah one of those was a hostel, the rest were single rooms with a private bathroom. kinda wish i made the rest hostels as well, I made a cool friend there. I'd only rent a whole place if I was staying long term. I forget the point I was trying to make, but i think it still stands
I'm thinking about using them for the first time over hotel in about a month, if I book a entire place can I have friends over but not sleep over when I book as 1 guest? The prices did seem cheap at first until I saw there was a service/cleaning fee attached and then it ended up being the same as a hotel so I lost a bit of interest.
really depends on the hosts, some specify NO GUESTS, otherwise you should be ok with bringing hookers over
Oh yeah I always thought it was some sort of absurdist joke and pitiful detachment from reality that host could leave reviews for ME, THE CUSTOMER. WHO THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? NOBODY REVIEWS ME, NOBODY. I AM THE REVIEWER NOT THE REVIEWEE.
It made sense when it was a peer to peer thing with airbnb as a much smaller entity inbetween them, but nowadays half of the rentals are from big estate agencies and the other half is mostly made up of people who run airbns as a business. It made sense when it was mostly just some guy with a spare room who didn't need to set it up for foreigners, with aribnb taking care of it, and people reviewing each other, but now it's just shit. Had one cunt leave me a bad review for "leaving the place" dirty even though I paid almost 15 euros for cleaning in a place where local average wage is probably not much higher than 250, with minimum being much less than that lmao
As travelers, we would be in hotels, or on one of half a dozen similar platforms.
Locals in cities that have had their rental markets hollowed out by short-term rental profiteers would be in more affordable apartments in more desirable neighborhoods.
Used it twice when the hype was huge. Didn’t like it. I just don’t like to be in someone’s home, when I travel. Even a mountain hut for hikers in which everybody sleeps in the same room was a better experience.
I don’t want to deal with hosts, I don’t want to deal with shitty attempts at room decor, shitty mattresses and paper-thin walls. I know not all places are like that, but it’s just not my thing.
Also airbnb ruined my city; everybody rents out which makes locals life quite sucky.
It's not bad if you rent a flat. But their going rates are extremely inflated. I was staying in a city center studio in Valencia last spring and summer, paying €540 + <60 in bills with my girlfriend, splitting the expenses evenly. So I never paid more than €300 per month. Only shitty expense was paying the letting agency something like €200 as a one off fee. I was there for 4 months, so I thought of it as an additional €25 per month. So €325 for the accommodation itself. In the same city the equivalent (never in as good as a location) went for around €1000 per month minimum. Anything decent was at least plus €200. It genuinely fucks up the prices. It's like a touristic quarter of the city, where the restaurants cost as much as four times the regular prices for inferior food and worse service, serving people who are deadly scared of trying to order without knowing the language, except now it's the whole city and the locals are now resorting to never eating out at all and all the restaurants now sell shitty microwaved food.
I left it out, but I was renting through a letting agency. It's even better if you can rent directly as it should cut the inbetweener fees. I didn't mind as everything was handled in good order. The only problem I experienced was that I needed to pester them for five weeks to receive my deposit and threaten to denounce them to police, but even then it would still be cheaper if I somehow didn't recover it.
My rent would be 500€ instead of the 1100€ I pay today
Haha that's funny. Why didn't you buy a house when they were cheap? Now you can be poor the rest of your life . Haha imagine paying an extra $ million in rent because of airbnb because you fell for muh property tax meme