Why is air travel so miserable now?

It was never this bad pre-meme flu.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I went to Schiphol a few weeks back and it was overcrowded as shit with giant waiting lines everywhere.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Revenge traveling".
    This current summer is the very worst moment to travel.
    Most normies didn't travel in 2020 and 2021 because they scared of the memeflu or didn't want to bother checking what was possible, so right now was basically the first time in two years they felt "safe" enough to travel.
    I suggest waiting at least until september. I am not going anywhere until september, then october, and november.

    Honestly, 2020 and 2021 were god tier for traveling (and until February 2022 to some extent). From the moment you arrived at the airport, to security check, it only took 15 minutes max, check-in included.
    Not only that, but everywhere was empty and hotels were cheap as fuck, it was a dream come true.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I came back from Newark in April and security at this notoriously shit airport only took about 5 minutes. I want to travel again but I know that same security line will take hours and my flight home will be delayed multiple times.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Flew out of Newark a few weeks ago and while it was a bit crowded, though not too bad, the airport handled it really way and I was through check-in and security within 10-15 minutes, pretty standard. Flight took off without a hitch too and made it on-time. No complaints at all.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah the airport troubles ended mid-June I think, after the media started complaining. With online check-ins the only lines I have to face are security, which is like 15 minutes tops. Pearson was breeze and that's saying something

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I am not going anywhere until september, then october, and november.
      lockdowns are coming back.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, mask mandates AT MOST. And even that's being generous. Countries and rules are continuing to loosen up as we speak, despite rising cases, because there is no effect on hospitalizations.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, mask mandates AT MOST. And even that's being generous. Countries and rules are continuing to loosen up as we speak, despite rising cases, because there is no effect on hospitalizations.

        HAHAHAHA good luck getting people to comply

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lockdowns are coming back.
        No they're not. Nobody wants to play along with your fantasies.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's nothing to do with fantasies you naive idiot. They are coming back this winter and anyone sane (such as myself) is cramming in as much travel as possible right now.
          Oh, did you really think they spent tens of billions on building a social credit system, global testing and data storage infrastructure just to sack it off after a year?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They are coming back this winter
            When they are not, will you come here and admit you were wrong? Of course you won't. You will convince yourself you were right.
            >they spent tens of billions on building a social credit system
            Wut. No they didn't. Serious question, have you been clinically tested for autism or schizophrenia? If not please do get tested asap. No mentally well person would say such inane sighsee tier moon landing denialist conspiracy theories like you just did.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Wut. No they didn't.
              The UK gov alone spent over 10b on Test and Trace.
              You think you are so smart, but you're not

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                First, source. Second, how is that a surveilance or social credit system? You live in a fantasy world. A paranoid schizophrenia induced world where everyone except you are sheeple and bringing about a totalitarian dictatorship, with only you knowing the truth and being the world's hero and freedom fighter.

                This is serious. Seek help. Your mental illness will only get worse.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                stupid normie enjoy the coming dystopian nightmare luckily I have 2 passports and a bug out cabin 3000 miles away but I fear for you, I really do. Maybe it is already too late

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The year is 2024. None of your schizo fantasies have come to pass. Life is normal. Will you:

                a) muse to yourself why you wasted all these years following Q conspiracy theories and spent all this time being angry and scared being wrong about everything
                b) be convinced a new dystopia is just around the corner and real soon normies will be enslaved and you alone will be the hero of humanity

                Please seek professional help, otherwise a won't happen.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Everything I said in 2020 has already happened. Lockdowns were orchestrated by WEF young leaders graduates, Covid was never a real threat, the vaccine is dubious, testing app was a means to set up a framework for digital ID and tracking. Now farms are being seized, 'climate emergency' is already the new narrative.
                And Qanon? Really? Are you 56 years old? Get a grip.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everything I said in 2020 has already happened.
                did you make the predictions? you didnt read someone elses ideas?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I decided myself that there was something not quite right and very hysterical/rushed in tone in terms of how they spoke about the virus and vaccines. None of it seemed to add up at the time. In hindsight I’m glad I did not get wrapped up in the hysteria. It was all lies, all of it. And still people like you think none of this was particularly abnormal. I mean I’m literally banned from entering US, China and Canada right now, over a bug I’ve recovered from and built immunity too, and people like you would say it’s normal. Ask yourself why they are lying and pushing something they know does not work

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people like you
                all because i did not think you independently made all your correct 2020 predictions by yourself

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You 100% got wrapped up in the hysteria of schizo conspiracy theories, 4chan retardation, antivax disinformation, moon landing hoaxes and such.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everything I said in 2020 has already happened
                wow anon that sounds amazing. you sound like some modern nostradamus or something. if only you had thought to place some bets on it or something you would be living in luxury somewhere not hanging out on sighsee
                >WEF
                do people really think the WEF has any power? they are literally just a bunch of blowhards making predictions about the future. they don't actually do anything themselves

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >orchestrated by WEF
                I mean it anon. You need help. You have a severe case of overdose of 4chan memes which can lead to paranoid delusions and schizophrenic outbursts.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You 100% got wrapped up in the hysteria of schizo conspiracy theories, 4chan retardation, antivax disinformation, moon landing hoaxes and such.

                Why are you shilling democrat conspiracy theories

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >le WEF boogeyman
                go the fuck back to le reddit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >'climate emergency' is already the new narrative.
                This is why I cant take tinfoil hat schizo's seriously.
                They will deny water is wet if it fits with their conspiracy narrative or whatever an uneducated politician told them.
                The main factor always remain their lack of responsibility and accountability; constantly shifting the blame to somebody else.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                While I do agree with you that the whole tracing thing and vax cert thing make governments cream their pants, the only reason why they drop these is because they are not ready. Their tools are not efficient, and they are limited by human resources. Nobody enjoys scanning qr codes after a while, databases are not accurate and not well updated, too many glitches, and too many different certifications.
                Even in Europe with the EU standard test form, only two countries provided me with one of these (France and Italy). In other countries they just gave you a test result with a qr code leading you to their website.

                They are not ready because of their own technical limit. Do not overestimate them. And there's a thing called "money waste" but that's a different story.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Test and trace was a money laundering scheme, nothing else.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly this is the real answer behind 90% of "conspiracies"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      See
      Plus many are understaffed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of airlines cancelled most flights in 2020 + onerous restrictions (i.e. prison hotels in Canada) made it very hard to travel depending on where you were from. Also a lot of countries either banned travel or closed everything and made curfews so if you went there it'd be no fun anyway.

      Don't act like it was just people afraid of muh scurry covid.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        While it is true if you’re a non-European for 2020 (in summer 2020 it was possible to travel in Europe as a European), there’s much less excuse for 2021, especially from september 2021 when Europe slowly reopened its borders to North America (and reciprocally).
        I traveled in January 2022 and the same thing happened; while things were mostly opened, a lot of people canceled their traveling plans in January 2022 because they’ve heard the news about omicron kek. Retards.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >prison hotels in Canada
        kek I remember those. My god, that system was so poorly organized.

        >a woman almost got raped in one of those hotels
        >some people didn't get enough food, or got food that they couldn't eat
        >at the beginning, refusing to comply was an $850 fine, which was cheaper than the hotel (over $2000)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People did not travel because it was either not possible or frustratingly complicated, and with everything closed in your destination anyway. Nobody was "scared". You are a typical internet tough guy larper who is a small, scared man living in his mom's basement, and pretend to be the opposite on the internet, to try to convince yourself you are some brave freedom fighter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it was possible if you’re European. And if you’re North American, it was possible to go to Europe as early as september 2021. See

        While it is true if you’re a non-European for 2020 (in summer 2020 it was possible to travel in Europe as a European), there’s much less excuse for 2021, especially from september 2021 when Europe slowly reopened its borders to North America (and reciprocally).
        I traveled in January 2022 and the same thing happened; while things were mostly opened, a lot of people canceled their traveling plans in January 2022 because they’ve heard the news about omicron kek. Retards.

        People massively canceled in january 2022, I would know because the hotel in which I stayed told me so and upgraded me since there was nobody.

        It was possible, even more so a European.
        Pic related was July 2020 in Reykjavik airport. Not many flights at all, but it was possible. Cope.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          My bad, August. Left Iceland in August 2020, but arrived there in July. But you get my point.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        millions of people were scared. My friend's parents stayed behind a glass door when I visited and passed us food through the window. They cancelled their trip to egypt even after the ban ended.
        I'd say about 30-40% of the boomers I know were genuinely scared of Covid, and about 15-20% of people I know aged 20-30.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You know a lot of scared people. I don't know anyone who ever was scared of covid. People just waited out what they had to wait out, and went gradually back to normal as places started opening up again and vaccine rollouts ensured we wouldn't have lockdowns again, at most just restrictions that would eventually be lifted.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know any mormons but that doesn't mean I think they don't exist, retard

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >just be a good goy and mom will eventually unground you

            Get a load of this cuck

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >good goy
              >cuck
              if i pull the string in your back what other phrases do you repeat?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The media was having a field day with scaremongering headlines, so a lot of people who read news every day and believes that the media are always objective with no agenda were shitting their pants

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        lmfao vaxxed cattle

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why so crowded?
        >lack of employees
        >unusually super high demand

        I went in and out of Munich this July. Had a flight to Vienna. The airport is huge but it wasn't crowded. Security did not take more than 10 minutes at Houston Intercontinental or Munich. Though I did have 2 additional checks through Munich on my way home. But when I got to Houston the border control point line was fucking huge. It took 20 minutes but initially looked like it would take 1-2 hours.

        However, my flight from Houston to Laguardia was delayed by 2 hours because of an issue with one of the panel lights in the cockpit. Luckily it was an early flight 10am, so we were able to secure another plane. Had it been a 4pm or a 6pm flight? Fuck.

        The COVID test required to re-enter the US kept me from going overseas through 2021 and most of 2022. But I bit the bullet in May and bought tickets for Germany in July. I got lucky when they rescinded the order in June. I bet a lot of people started booking flights and hotels after that. Just one little thing got in people's way.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >unusually super high demand
          Any proofs? Statistics shows that traffic now is LESS than it was 3 years ago

          It's just another sign that our current economic system is collapsing just like in Soviet Union in late 80s: shortages, delays, long queues

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everywhere was empty and hotels were cheap as fuck, it was a dream come true.
      this. Stayed at JW Marriott for under 100 a night. Thanks Covidians

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was easily the most based thing EVER.

      Maui was a fucking wonderland in summer, 2020. One little Covid test and you had Hawaiian islands free from almost all tourists. Literally like stepping back into the 1970s.

      I wish the normies had been scared into staying home and masking forever.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't do airline travel because I don't do the mask thing. When they dropped that, I booked tickets immediately.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They laid off all the employees for 2 years so people found other jobs; government is slow in giving security clearances to new prospective hires; and new regulations may increase delays.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get a credit card with priority pass and it's pretty good. Especially in the 3rd world the lounges are so nice. If there's no lounge then I'm on my laptop listening to comfy music, posting on sighsee. And I'm always the last on the plane as waiting in long lines is awful.

    TSA is annoying but I've never known pre-TSA so it's not so bothersome. Flying is the best way to travel right now because of gas prices.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because everyone does it. Years ago, flight was a middle class and higher endeavor, now everyone can hop on a cheapo flight and shit it up. Combine that with stewardesses that deal with that crap and forced next to someone; it creates a hell experience. Don't forget some baby crying the entire flight or a stinky indian, etc...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > cheap flight
      > trans-Atlantic is $1000+ for the barest economy, this season $1300+
      I wouldn't call that cheap. The only cheap ones are the Ryanair inter-EU flights.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        US here. Literally every flight from my airport to Europe is $1000+ with the only exceptions being Athens and Bucharest which are $600-700. I flew Ryanair over there and payed $59 from Hahn to Edinburgh. I haven't seen a flight that cheap in a while unless they have gone down in price.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          every day of the week those costs? i look at flying back from europe to toronto - the one way toronto to europe is often literally half the price or less than flying the other way. i dont know your plan maybe it is hard dates so you cant fly weekdays, or fly back in shoulder season - naturally summer and Christmas suck for prices.
          potential affordable airports on their day:
          reykjavik, dublin, london, barcelona, lisbon, porto, venice.
          but in other years ive had brussels, paris, rome, madrid

          of course the route of travel matters, why save $300 going over the ocean to then spend it on connecting transport to get to the same end destination.

          toronto to barcelona round trip leave in aug back in sept - 700USD aircanada.. now this doesnt help you but toronto tax is crazy and so is any canadian service so everything seems more expensive than an american trip, but this is a deal imo, it is not the average flight to europe in this timeframe

          depending what region you are from, some specific cheap airlines serve it. apparently pennsylvania its cheapest to fly to cork. britbongs love going to orlando

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's heathrow terminal 2. the terminal where all the shitty airlines fly from. that's the terminal that has been all over the news recently because of a baggage system failure and so on
    i have a flight from that same terminal next week oh god oh god oh god

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What shitty airline are you flying?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I flew out of that terminal a few weeks ago and I almost missed my flight because the queue for security literally had thousands of fucking people, I've never seen anything like it. Tbh though as long as you get there 3 hours early you should be fine

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Canada pleb here, every airport here is basically a zoo.

    People didn't travel for 2 years because they cucked in with the paranoia and fear peddled by the local media and were basically scared of their own shadow.

    Once they re-opened everything people started going on a spending rampage given how credit is easy to get even if you're broke. Lots of broke fucks going to europe/caribbean daily now lol so demand is high regardless of ticket prices.

    People realized this might be just a window of freedom until they close everything up in the fall for covid or monkeypox, or both, so they're going to travel as much as they can until then.

    One thing i noticed is if you fly with Air Canada/Air Transat you're pretty guaranteed to have issues with delayed/cancelled flights or luggage issues, but if you fly with a foreign airline like American Airlines, Lufthansa, etc, you're going to be fine.

    The problems in Canada seem to be with canadian companies only, not foreign airlines.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >People didn't travel for 2 years because they cucked in with the paranoia and fear peddled by the local media and were basically scared of their own shadow.
      People didn't travel for 2 years cause the federal government made it very hard to travel (cancelled flights, prison hotels, pcr tests, etc.).

      >People realized this might be just a window of freedom until they close everything up in the fall for covid or monkeypox, or both, so they're going to travel as much as they can until then.
      They might close cause of covid. They won't close over monkeypox cause that's a gayman virus (98% of infected gay men) spread by skin-to-skin contact, mostly at bathhouse sex orgies. If cocksucking government shitstem gays lock me down cause some gays wanna engage in nasty behavior, I will start breaking stuff cause they can't lock me down if I'm already on lockdown.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wait till monkeypox becomes vaccine resistant and becomes more transmissible.

        The year is 2024. None of your schizo fantasies have come to pass. Life is normal. Will you:

        a) muse to yourself why you wasted all these years following Q conspiracy theories and spent all this time being angry and scared being wrong about everything
        b) be convinced a new dystopia is just around the corner and real soon normies will be enslaved and you alone will be the hero of humanity

        Please seek professional help, otherwise a won't happen.

        Real inflation close to 20%, life is normal

        Lmao i don't even blame them for wanting to depopulate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The problems in Canada seem to be with canadian companies only, not foreign airlines.
      Yes and no. I flew out Dec 2021 came back Jan 2022. Business Class lounge was utter trash. Food offerings were super limited compared to normal and they weren't doing boarding calls which is something I noticed in my layover lounge as well (the food and accommodations there were WAY better though). The gate itself was a whole different kind of mess though. The people working the gate had no clue where the flight was (it was sitting on the tarmac for some reason) and was followed up by them deboarding the plane in the order of where you were sitting so a flight for 8 ended up being boarded at 10, and of course every monkey in the World had to block the Business Class people who were called on first. That was the same case everywhere I flew out of for that trip. Customs was a whole different nightmare. It took TWO hours of waiting in line after deboarding FIRST and RUNNING across Terminal 3 at Pearson to get to Customs.

      It's not going to get better here or anywhere, but my God is it fucking horrendous here. I've pretty much refused to fly at this point until this shit is sorted which may be a while.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just flew in to and out of YUL in Montreal, got through security just fine and in practically no time but they weirdly didn't announce any gate changes (which were happening constantly) and they seemed to exclusively pick people with advanced speech impediments to deliver the other announcements. Lots of delays on Air Canada though to be sure, thankfully no outright cancellations for me.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >land in Ibiza
    >sir I need to see your QR code and your spanish gov site permit whatever bullshit
    >I don't have it. Didn't know it.
    >Sir you can't travel without them
    >Sure. Are you going to send me back home now or what?
    >no... let me call my boss
    >see a lot of people crossing without this bullshit
    >show my fake pdf vaccination qr proof to some young girl that didnt even scan it
    >keep walking, take a taxi, leave.
    clow world. clown airports

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Travelling during covid was pure heaven.
    Got a 787 flight from Singapore to Athens for $220, was only 6 passengers including me. More flight crew than pax, fucking glorious times

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pax

      Gosh I loathe airlingo..

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    gggga

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How come every airport always has a fat Pakistani man with 800 pieces of luggage with him

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fucking aer Dingus

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's all a fucking disaster. Your only hope is to buy business class and just try to avoid as many of the monkeys as possible. The whole process is a shitshow, not just the staff and air waitresses but also your fellow passengers fucking hate you. Keep you head down and just get to your gate then hit the closest bar. Don't talk to anyone and don't look at anyone.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They sacked all their staff during the pandemic and now cant re-hire them all again fast enough, so everybody has to wait. Thats why we need a recession to balance supply and demand of staff and flights

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven’t traveled internationally since covid fuck things up and probably won’t anytime soon given the risk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      risk of what?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Learn to read, bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Risk of cancellations & significant delays.

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