Why is traveling and working in Asia so controversial?

There's always a never-ending "debate" about how and if you should go there, which countries are respectable, what job you should have if you don't want to be seen as a loser back home, what a sexpat is or isn't, how much of the language you should or shouldn't learn...

You also have this odd circular firing squad where foreigners in these countries play pick-me and throw each other under the bus. You also have this odd phenomenon of Asian diaspora types furiously gatekeeping the old country.

Why is Asia in particular like this? No other part of the world seems remotely as contentious. Not even the ones you'd think might be, like Africa or the Middle East.

What's going on?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >There's always a never-ending "debate" about how and if you should go there, which countries are respectable, what job you should have...
    Really? I don't really see that happening. You mean on SighSee or in the real world?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's just SighSee-lers being contrarian, nobody else cares

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i'm british, live in malaysia, work and travel all around asia-pacific, and you are talking out of your behind

    • 1 year ago
      Yesyesno

      I really care if u saw this reply me mate and it’s will be appreciated,
      Looking to travel to SINGAPORE,
      What do u advise someone who want to work out there?? Note I applied online but can’t find a work contract, but it easy to travel there,

      >> what’s the first steps??

      What I have to do in the airport niece I reach Singapore things to tell the officer,
      And can i travel to it from Malaysia through bus instead of flight ???
      And do you think it is convenient to travel there and looking for job ??? Your answer will be appreciated thanks,

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You sound like a Pajeet and I don't know your circumstances, but I wouldn't go anywhere without a work contract arranged first, you're asking to get totally exploited or fricked over somehow. Whenever you go abroad, do everything by the book unless you want the book thrown at you.

        Good night sir.

        • 1 year ago
          Yesyesno

          Thanks mate, I really understand and feel your advice and i know it is the truth but I need to fricking go out, I need work my mate,..

          Don’t you think it is safe to do, or no,

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm Singaporean, if you're finding work, you better have good credentials cause you'd be competing with local university grads (our top 3 universities are some of the best in the world). You'll also need an employer to get you a work pass. Also yes you can travel to Singapore via bus from Malaysia but be prepared for a jam because the checkpoint is very busy.

        • 1 year ago
          Yesyesno

          Thanks dude I appreciate it thank you so much for this kind reply,.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because a lot of people who idolise Japan and Asian culture are utter weebs or weirdos.

      Places that's the British had a big role in seem to be exempt from it. Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaysia all have the veiw of western aligned business centers, you can bump into a lot of people who have lived and worked there, Hong Kong was British administration into the 90's. I even fricked a girl who said she was Malaysian, just looked like any other white British girl, but both her parents were brits who lived and worked in Malaysia, she was born and grew up there.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the only hong konger I know (born and raised) is a anglo guy who looks like a norf fc fan

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    99% of people moving to Asia are LBH. They see Asia as the solution to their problems. When they see other people encroaching on their fairyland, they get aggressive. it's funny. ask anyone who moved to japan or korea why they moved. they will always masquerade their reason like "HEALTHCARE, ITS SAFE, DURRR" but just chat with them for an extra hour. it's always because of kpop, asian fetish, or anime. ALWAYS.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >they will always masquerade their reason

      Good evening sir

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        good evening sir

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >99% of people moving to Asia are LBH

      Those are the tourists or digital memeads. The guys that actually move to SEA are old pensioners that want to live out their golden years in comfort/luxury instead of living hand to mouth in their own country.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        don't think 60s are your golden years, more like twilight years

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You get my point. The guys actually living there are doing it mostly for CoL/QoL reasons, not cooming. Any cooming is just icing on the cake.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This. Your 20s are your golden years, anything else is cope. Thankfully NDEs are real and prove that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die, so that is the main source of comfort with growing older.

          Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

          It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

          https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

          >"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

          Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.

          Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

          >"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

          Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >This. Your 20s are your golden years, anything else is cope

            This is such a stupid way to have a conversation.
            > 20s are the best!
            > Nah 30s are the best!
            > After you turn 5, it's over!

            I've been told that 20s are the best and I have to enjoy them. My 20s were shit, a fricking nightmare of betrayal, poverty, and grind. Now in my early thirties and my life is 50x better.

            Point being... maybe speaking in general terms, like you here, is not the smartest thing to do?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >99% of people moving to Asia are LBH.
      I never understood why people shame others for trying to better their situation. What would you have them do? If they actually were losers, how bad is Asia that they can go love rock star lives as 'losers in a real country'?
      A person is only a loser if they give up and never change their shitty situation. The people shaming others for bettering themselves are bitter losers themselves. Remember, success kills jealousy and the only people that use the term "LBH" are always jealous, bitter people.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Well said

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Bettering you situation and bettering yourself aren't the same.
        Bettering yourself would entail becoming a better person and stop being a loser (even in your own environment).
        Going to a poorer country to stretch your dollar and bank on other people's misery isn't the same, that's why that's seen in a bad light.
        You can't hack it and you put life on easy mode.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but unless you are top tier in your own country, if you are a wagie with no gf or an ugly gf/wife, you have SHIT over the guy who put his life on ‘easy mode’ in Asia. Anything you would have to say against it is pure cope (not saying YOU are doing this, but that this is the station in life of your average ‘can hack it’ in his own country)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >bank on other people's misery

          wut

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Hacking it is a boomer meme, watch what they do rather than what they say. Why would anyone NOT want to live life on Easy Mode, if they have the option?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >dood just be miserable like me and everyone else dood its the only way to live life just suffer dood dont try to live an easy life a life must be about suffering and being miserable every second
          im glad you're trolling cause nobody could be this moronic

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          your post makes the white loser back home REEEEEEEEEE

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The seethe from these replies. Do westoids really hate the environment they were brought up in? Have some inkling of pride you failed humans.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you have to have pride in your environment, why don't you have a choice? That's cucked /misc/cel collectivist thinking.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Why do you have to have pride in your environment, why don't you have a choice? That's cucked /misc/cel collectivist thinking.
              The perfect post for this smuggie

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOO YOU CANT GO ABROAD AND TEACH ENGLISH! YOU HAVE TO STOP LE BARBARIANS FROM SACKING ROME I READ ABOUT IT IN MY CHUDDIE BOOK BY JOHN GLUBB YOU HAVE TO STOP THE 250 YEAR OLD EMPIRE FROM COLLAPSING THE WAY IT'S DUE ANY MOMENT NOW

                Meds, now.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >"nooo you can't come to my shithole country!"
            >"you're exploiting us!"
            >"heh you must be a loser!"
            >"you aren't even proud of your country like I am of my shithole!"
            The defeatist mindset truly is amazing to see in real time.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Trannies and roasties come from lolcow sites and discords to take potshots at us, I can't imagine a more miserable group of people

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Most of them are zoomer blackpillers or ricecels that watch youtube shorts about midface theory all day

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone knows this is true, but won't admit it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not. 9/10 people will move to Asia because it’s cheaper, safer, and more sane, but 1/10 will move because they like anime, k-pop, or have an Asian fetish along with the previously cited motivations and that’s you pay attention to, the 1% of motivations among 1% of people.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seeth more, I am going to escape globohomosexual and there is nothing any of you can do about it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It wouldnt be called globohomosexual if it wasnt everywhere in some way shape or form

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >99% of people moving to Asia are LBH.
      I never understood why people shame others for trying to better their situation. What would you have them do? If they actually were losers, how bad is Asia that they can go love rock star lives as 'losers in a real country'?
      A person is only a loser if they give up and never change their shitty situation. The people shaming others for bettering themselves are bitter losers themselves. Remember, success kills jealousy and the only people that use the term "LBH" are always jealous, bitter people.

      Wtf is LBH

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Loser Back Home

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Little Brown Homos

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There is no debate. People here are trolling.
      This guy is a troll, and uses the right buzzword to trigger the morons here into believing him.

      There's 3 types of people who move to asia:

      1. The depressed white liberal/incel who has an asian fetish/kpop fetish/anime fetish and who's main reason is to "maybe" meet an asian woman/guy to marry there or simply frick as many of them as possible to feel "free" again. Those types want to "start over" because they fricked up everything back home but don't realize they're considered like wienerroaches in the countries they want to live and work in, especially in korea and Japan.

      There's a black french youtuber who moved to Korea and got a "korean gf", dated her for 1-2 years until she got tired of her BBC fetish and dumped his ass, and the guy legitimately thought he was going to marry her and spend the rest of his life in asia, it ultimately broke the guy and he became a cringeworthy homosexual as a result. The guy looks like he's about to shoot himself in the fricking head but pretends he loves the country even though every single person he meets looks at him like some extraterrestrial Black.

      They'd have an easier time "starting over" simply moving to europe or some other western country, but instead insist on trying to be accepted by asians because "they're westerners so it should be easy". Turns out wages in both Korea and Japan are shit and work hours are long, and you have to work twice as hard as the local folks to avoid getting gangraped in your performance review.

      2. The rich/old retired person who just wants to live the good life with his retirement money instead of living like a peasant in his home country.

      Instead of living in an apartment in a neighborhood full of Black folk and refugees and risk getting mugged every day while "retired", he can rent or buy a very nice condo in thailand and just enjoy life on the beach.

      3. The perverted sperg who just wants to frick women, trannies, underage girls, typically old pedos who can't stop thinking about fricked up sexual fetishes but nowadays a lot of young dudes you consider "coomers" are exactly like this.

      This guy has never been to Asia and uses "black french (tautology) youtubers in korea" as an example of why living in Asia is a bad idea.

      Do certain people hold certain opinions when they know you're an expat in Asia ? Yes, absolutely. Do they come from a place of understanding, or simply cliches and stereotypes ? Obviously the latter.

      There are only two people that I feel are somehow entitled to a justification, and these people are my parents. They didn't buy it at first, and I did not care. Then they came to Taiwan, saw where I lived, met my girl, saw how I interacted with people -and saw how they interacted back. My father asked me to look for a 6 month rental somewhere in Taipei because he loves it now.

      If you don't like "Asia" (as if the entire continent was a monolith) stay right where the frick you are. I do not want your moronic ass anywhere near my cool shit.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Asian diaspora types gatekeeping
    Youre an idiot. Its 100% white foreigners who do this.
    Unless youre talking about Indians gatekeeping their women and the coomportunities in their country.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The thirst coming off the pajeets visiting Thailand is palpable. The bewildered look in their beady little eyes, their heads bobbing to and fro trying to cope with the sensory overload is testament to how repressed their country is.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's strange how hard expats gatekeep moving to Asia, especially Japan.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Online this happens because Asia is a place of extremes. Some areas are extremely impoverished shitholes that attract begpackers and sexpats. There are other super wealthy areas where people will assume you're some white businessman or financial analyst there to make a lot of money before heading home. And of course, the neverending scourge of Koreaboos and Weeaboos who embarrass the rest of us.
    In real life pretty much none of this stigma exists other than specifically Thailand (sexpats) and Japan (weeaboos). Even then, the average normie is not going to call you out directly.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Its all related to simp engrish teachers placating the white roasties back home lmao, as well as hapas angry about whites banging their women. As usual its all about controlling your sex life.

      >Even then, the average normie is not going to call you out directly.
      Women will definitely do it, ive had random 40 year old white Women find my travel insta and start nagging my followers to unfollow me, sending them messages complaining to them that in a sexpat LMAO. Roastie toasties.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >controlling your sex life
        Everyone has a right to think you're a coomer loser if you pay for sex a lot. It's gross and hedonistic. Fat people are gross too. Out of shape people are gross. People who don't know how to dress. All gross. Spend a modicum of effort. Learn how to present yourself. You'll be much happier when people treat you better everywhere you go.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >ewwwww sex is le gross but only if you pay for it teehee and not when I frick ten chads and get aids teehee! And not onlyfans either!
          Keep coping roastie

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    After I got my masters degree I came for a job opportunity that paid close to 6 times as much as my old dead end job. All the other reasons for coming to Japan are still there, but I don't have to justify anything to anyone. Been here for 5 years, survived COVID lockdowns which forced a lot of folks hand to leave Japan, now married and ain't never going back. Just the stuff I have planned this year makes me realize how lucky I am:

    -trip to Korea for Golden week
    -climb Fuji with Brother in July
    - trip to Hokkaido to eat myself under the table
    -trip to Nikko for Fall foliage
    -Sumo tournament
    -a few ski trips taking shape next year in onsen resort towns.

    And I still get to pop into a dingy retro arcade for fighting games at ¥50 a pop.

    I think it benefits anyone willing to live abroad regardless if you are a walking cliche about coming or weaboo or whatever, if you make and put down roots great, welcome! If you frick up and have to return home with regrets, hey you fricking tried and that's better than 99 of folks who never leave their hometown

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's the small things everyday, our cleaning lady at work crochet these toilet paper covers. Folks are kind and if you make the effort to at least learn a little Japanese you start to have genuine interactions with folks rather than realtraveller Instagram experiences

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        fix your moron haircut

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Stay autistic anon, never change <3

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        s-seth rogen?!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >-trip to Korea for Golden week
      >-climb Fuji with Brother in July
      >- trip to Hokkaido to eat myself under the table
      >-trip to Nikko for Fall foliage
      >-Sumo tournament
      >-a few ski trips taking shape next year in onsen resort towns.
      I mean, none of these are benefits of living in Japan. you can just travel to do all these things if you live somewhere else.

      I loved Japan but the everyday life there gets annoying, I much much prefer to live in a more comfortable place but travel to Japan a lot

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe everyday life for you would get annoying, but it's been the best professional and financial decision for me, Japan is incredibly generous for mid career folks.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Currently finishing a 1 month trip in Kyushu, I was supposed to move April 2020 but borders shut. However during covid I got a job that pays ~3x what even the most generous employers offer over here and with current economy a transfer to the Tokyo office seems unlikely. However after this trip it really reignited the passion I had pre COVID. It's just really hard to leave so much money on the table, although the CoL is much cheaper than Seattle. Hats off to you and the other jpn folks here. I really don't want to go back to where I can't walk to the girlfriends without feeling anxious. Maybe I'll get lucky and score a transfer. If anyone is in the tech scene lmk, specifically backend stuff, Im curious about a lot of the startups I see on Japandev and Tokyodev. I got offers from like 4 of the bigger companies in 2020 but curious about some of these newer startups if anyone has experience in the area.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Bit of a ramble, sorry just bored and tired on a long shinkansen ride

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      god damn this anon is inspiring
      dunno what i would do in japan if i ever went but you make me want to go

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's 3 types of people who move to asia:

    1. The depressed white liberal/incel who has an asian fetish/kpop fetish/anime fetish and who's main reason is to "maybe" meet an asian woman/guy to marry there or simply frick as many of them as possible to feel "free" again. Those types want to "start over" because they fricked up everything back home but don't realize they're considered like wienerroaches in the countries they want to live and work in, especially in korea and Japan.

    There's a black french youtuber who moved to Korea and got a "korean gf", dated her for 1-2 years until she got tired of her BBC fetish and dumped his ass, and the guy legitimately thought he was going to marry her and spend the rest of his life in asia, it ultimately broke the guy and he became a cringeworthy homosexual as a result. The guy looks like he's about to shoot himself in the fricking head but pretends he loves the country even though every single person he meets looks at him like some extraterrestrial Black.

    They'd have an easier time "starting over" simply moving to europe or some other western country, but instead insist on trying to be accepted by asians because "they're westerners so it should be easy". Turns out wages in both Korea and Japan are shit and work hours are long, and you have to work twice as hard as the local folks to avoid getting gangraped in your performance review.

    2. The rich/old retired person who just wants to live the good life with his retirement money instead of living like a peasant in his home country.

    Instead of living in an apartment in a neighborhood full of Black folk and refugees and risk getting mugged every day while "retired", he can rent or buy a very nice condo in thailand and just enjoy life on the beach.

    3. The perverted sperg who just wants to frick women, trannies, underage girls, typically old pedos who can't stop thinking about fricked up sexual fetishes but nowadays a lot of young dudes you consider "coomers" are exactly like this.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Cool essay, fed. Dont care and opinion disregarded. Tell your supervisor they need a better propagandist

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for confirming my point moron

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >he wrote all those words
          A didn’t read your “point”, officer. Nobody did.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This has to be the most defensive response possible. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have replied.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No federal agent would have the creativity to come up with
        >extraterrestrial Black

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      everyone that moves somewhere probably wants to start over. it doesn't mean they fugged up back home. But most of the time, you're probably right. Especially with the poor folks with just enough money for a couple months of expenses

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >There's 3 types of people who move to asia:
      maybe in your mind. meanwhile in my world most of the euros/burgers i meet are corporate types either here on an assignment or corporate relocation or something like that. they've either done it to get something more interesting to put on their cv/resume or been given a task to do like oversee opening an office, manage a local team or something like that.
      it starts out as an exciting prospect but after a few months of trying to get a bunch of lethargic malays to do anything the reality sets in

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Cope and seeth globalist moron. America is turning into Brazil 2.0 and I'm not going to stay here and suffer with you.
      >inb4 you think of something else moronic to say
      I'm not staying. Go frick yourself.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Black person lover i'm not even american and despise your shithole of a country so don't worry, just don't bring your awkwardness and sperg attitude to Japan and give us other expats a bad image though. homosexual.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >i'm not even american
          Actually I agree, you're too moronic to be an American. You're probably a wumao shill from Canada or something.
          >just don't bring your awkwardness and sperg attitude to Japan
          Or what? You're a little b***h and you won't do shit about it if I do.
          >muh akwardness
          The Japanese are the most akward people that exist. I doubt you are in Japan.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Terminally online brain

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is traveling and working in Asia so controversial?

    White losers have no skills. Their skill is teaching something that they NATURALLY SPEAK and write. They could be working towards making 6 figures salary from their mid to late 20s but instead they elect to make $2K a month teaching english a SEA shithole.

    They ARE teh "losers back home"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      But I think the question is why it’s particularly controversial to be a “white loser” in Asia, compared to doing precisely the same thing in say, Africa, or Latin America.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >doing precisely the same thing in say, Africa, or Latin America.

        Because teaching english is the biggest in SEA / Asian countries. It doesn't help that male english teachers get a bad rep for fricking their students. If you had WHITE Americans doing software engineer or being doctors in SEA / Asian countries, then there wouldn't be a bad rep.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          She’s pretty qt, I can’t blame them.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Vietnam seems like the ideal place for it

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              How the frick can you tell them apart, Jesus Christ

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The English teachers ruin it for everybody else, I agree. They are all weirdos, and they have maximum exposure with the population as opposed to a DN SWE who are sparse.

          But I don't see anything wrong with somebody improving their situation in life. Calling somebody a LBH, typically coming from a woman, is typically a roastie cope. They found a way out of the system and a way that they can improve/enjoy life, and the roasties hate that.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Calling somebody a LBH, typically coming from a woman, is typically a roastie cope. They found a way out of the system and a way that they can improve/enjoy life, and the roasties hate that.
            Haters gonna hate. They'll hate anyone living life and enjoying themselves more than they are. Unless a TEFL fricked their sister or ex-girlfriend, there's really no other reason to give a shit what someone does in another part of the world.
            Although your point about roasties is true too. Roasties are natural haters. It's a feminine and beta characteristic.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not even a TEFL but when I tell people I'm a digital nomad they get salty as frick. legitimately angry about the fact that i have no attachments and travel about wherever i want. especially white american women, its always "well why don't you stay here? well why don't you buy a house and get a wife? well why don't you blah blah blah". the men just look at me with this forlorn expression, like they want to do what im doing but can't because cuck reasons. the envy is palpable.

              men want to be free, women don't want you to. that's what ive learned.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I always laugh internally when I hear "digital nomad".

                Large majority of the time it's someone who has moved to start a business or is doing graphic design or some other gig economy with income that varies like a rollercoaster that will eventually end up back home in a year.

                Smaller percentage are the guys using their work from anywhere for 3 months incentive from their company back home and are basically on holiday working.

                Smaller percentage guys taking contract roles.

                Smaller percentage are the guys who are "digital nomads" but still pay tax back in their home country, are working on tourist visas and their company has no idea they are abroad.

                Even smaller percentage are the guys who actually found a company that would pay them a decent salary, allow full remote globally and allow you to pay taxes wherever you are. (Almost always starts up acting out of ignorance and are unstable)

                Either way, whichever one.. having to hop around living out of hotels / airbnbs.. never fully settling anywhere... the tax concerns / visa concerns.. it's extra stress and bullshit on top of your day job AND all the usual expat shit you have to deal with.

                I'm a SWE fully remote in my home country and honestly I'd rather quit and do TEFL for a year or two than all that shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                t. frustrated tech chink tied to a mortgage and an ugly wife in Seattle, Washington

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i was in the military for a good decade. living out of a duffel bag as i got deployed all over the world was the happiest days of my life. i tried the 9-5 regular normie shit when i became a civilian and it made me miserable. filing a visa, doing tax things, its all a minor inconvenience compared to having a mortgage and a bunch of "stuff" that i got to take care of. i'd rather chill in SEA or eastern europe living like a king (oh no! im getting gouged on a monthly AirBnB for $600 a month) and socking away money into a brokerage account than paying $3k a month for a shoebox apartment in the states.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This, only morons think moving to SEA or Eastern Europe is a bad idea.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i was in the military for a good decade. living out of a duffel bag as i got deployed all over the world was the happiest days of my life. i tried the 9-5 regular normie shit when i became a civilian and it made me miserable. filing a visa, doing tax things, its all a minor inconvenience compared to having a mortgage and a bunch of "stuff" that i got to take care of. i'd rather chill in SEA or eastern europe living like a king (oh no! im getting gouged on a monthly AirBnB for $600 a month) and socking away money into a brokerage account than paying $3k a month for a shoebox apartment in the states.

                t. frustrated tech chink tied to a mortgage and an ugly wife in Seattle, Washington

                Guys, my point here is not that living / working abroad is a bad thing. Of course it's better than the regular 9-5 --> buy a house --> mortgage route.

                I'm saying that shilling "just become a digital nomad!" is a complete pipe dream like I pointed out before, only the very minority of people land these golden eggs of fully global remote, pay taxes locally etc. I'd recommend just applying for a tech job in a local company other it even, even with the higher work load and lower pay.

                I doubt anyone here has even gone through the process of trying to find one of these roles, so they have no idea... Especially now with all the lay offs.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I doubt anyone here has even gone through the process of trying to find one of these roles, so they have no idea
                Speak for yourself, I have one of them

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Okay and...

                is it a startup?
                do you get paid an adjusted salary for the country you've moved too?
                do you pay taxes back in your home country?
                are you working on a tourist visa?

                if the answer is yes to any of the above, you do not have one of these roles.

                If the answer is no, then what's your net after tax each month and what are you spending on rent.

                Genuinely curious because I searched for months and found literally nothing to even apply too that matched this criteria.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but i declared tax residency in South Dakota to dodge state taxes. I still pay federal but w/e thats still a %10 raise compared to living in some cuck city in the US. i can live in SEA or LATAM for half what i would pay in the US for an equivalent accommodation. not even mentioning the cooming. i dont even buy groceries, i eat out 3 times a day and it costs me less than $10.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >do you pay taxes back in your home country?
                Burger taxes are deducted from my payroll every two weeks. They take away roughly 50% of what I make (fricking bullshit).

                >If the answer is no, then what's your net after tax each month and what are you spending on rent.
                I spend 4k after tax each month. Rent depends because I don't have a lease, I either stay with my parents or go around between Airbnbs.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >They take away roughly 50% of what I make (fricking bullshit)

                what frickin' tax bracket are you in man? i make $180k and at most i'm on the hook for 25%. are you getting a refund every year or what?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I make roughly $180k a year, $160k base w/ a ~%20 end of year performance bonus. I was paying $800 a month in state income tax, I dodged that right off the bat by getting a SD drivers license. After health insurance (which has international coverage) I net about $10k a month after federal taxes and 401k contributions.

                My intercontinental flight costs me about $1400 which I do only once every 3-6 months. AirBnB monthly is $600 for SEA and $900 for LATAM, I’m probably getting gouged but I like staying in nice places, sue me. Food is dirt cheap, I don’t buy groceries I just eat out every day for ~$20 a day and that includes a couple beers. With transport and other incidentals I’m looking at $1500 a month, tack on the cost of the intercontinental flight and amortize the cost over 3-6 months and it’s ~$2k a month, all in. I don’t drink too much and I don’t coom a whole lot, I’ll have an “off the rails” weekend where I’ll blow $300 on a hooker and a night of boozing but that’s usually at the very end when I’m about to go back to the states. So I’m banking $8k on average into my Robinhood account on top of my 401k contributions. It’s only when I come back to the states do my expenses skyrocket, I’m paying $4-5k a month when I live here and that’s in some B tier city like Denver or Austin.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                When you consider how depressing the yuppie dating scene is in America, moving to another country keeps making more and more sense for someone like you.

                Imagine you're back in Austin. On Friday night, you have plans with a 7/10 Asian-American with a job at a fashion magazine. Chances are she think she's out of your league. She walks in like SHE'S the prize, even if she's not that pretty and has 30 bodies at 24. You drop $150 on drinks at some so-and-so dive bar and an overpriced Uber home. You text back and forth afterwards, but she rarely gets back to you. When you try to set up a next date, she never has the time. You don't see each other again.

                Picture the same weekend in Buenos Aires. You have hot 19 year olds at your beck and call, in the prime of their youth. They see YOU as the prize. You can keep a stable of them for the price it would take to keep ONE American roastie happy taking her to depressing microbreweries every weekend.

                No wonder you keep hearing about people getting the frick of America every day on the news. They've made the idea of STAYING completely insane.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >No wonder you keep hearing about people getting the frick of America every day on the news.
                Getting the frick out of America**

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t date really. I’m old and a divorcee. I could be banging prime 20 year old pussy but it’s not my jam anymore. I like a quiet bar with a nice wienertail and people watching, get to bed early around 10 pm on the weekends.

                The thing I hate about the US is the HUSTLE AND BUSTLE attitude of everyone, people live to work instead of working to live, that’s what’s depressing. The US is the least comfy place in the world and at my age I just want to be comfy. Uncomfy people hate on that, they want you to engage in their neuroticism and stress and I’m doing my best to not to. I cannot overstate how salty people get over my lifestyle, I’m judged for having less cortisol flowing through my veins or some shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                let me tell you, the tourist slogan of buenos aires should be "free anal" because all the prostitutes there will just stuff it in their ass no questions asked. i don't get it about LATAM girls and butt stuff.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They like it because they're often not on birth control and it's less likely to get them knocked up

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Never heard of pulling out?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                classic post op move

                Also women being overly reliant on prostate orgasms for satisfaction in a culture of machista men who will not go down on her (most PIV sex by itself doesn't result in an orgasm for a woman, not unless someone's flicked her bean too)

                >women
                >prostate orgasms

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You know what I mean

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Seriously? I'll buy flight tix tomorrow if this is true...

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                two of the argie prostitutes i bought literally pulled me out of their pussy and stuck it in their ass. the first time i was like whoa wtf and she just smiled and said "servicio completo". she reached back and tugged my nuts as i railed her butthole. like goddamn man, LATAM prozzies are something else.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                She probably didn't want you to cum in her pussy for fear of getting preggers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i wasn't raw dogging that shit, im not moronic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                delightful. wish it were like that in Asia. I mean Thailand sure but try getting a Chinese or Korean to do it, and to take the initiative at that

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                two of the argie prostitutes i bought literally pulled me out of their pussy and stuck it in their ass. the first time i was like whoa wtf and she just smiled and said "servicio completo". she reached back and tugged my nuts as i railed her butthole. like goddamn man, LATAM prozzies are something else.

                I would definitely go for a butthole buffet

                i wasn't raw dogging that shit, im not moronic.

                But if you’re not filling their asses with a warm load then you’re kind of a homosexual, sorry dude.

                I’m not paying for the privilege to cum in a latex bag. Get on prep if you’re scared (that’s what I would do), but I’m not fricking prostitutes with condoms

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Might need to make a thread about this. My dick is twitching and getting half erect just thing about it.

                We’ll call it Buenos Aires Butthole Extravaganza (BABE)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I had a lot more fun dating in America once I stopped caring what the women thought. When it came Friday night I thought of something I wanted to do that sounded fun, then I'd go on Tinder and ask all my matches if they wanted to come. Usually one would say yes and we'd have a good time. It took a lot of rejection to gain this mindset. Lots of girls I would meet and like a lot, then I'd get disappointed when they'd dump me. Eventually you learn to live with yourself, learn how to be happy on your own. Once that happens the women just become the cherry on top. It's hard being a guy sometimes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                good stuff bro

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >stopped caring
                >asks a hundred roasties
                Holy cope! Let’snnot forget all the judgemental prostitutes who will get mad that you’re doing shit alone. Or who will get mad that your friends arent also chads. Or who will get mad at aome minor detail.

                American foids? Not even once.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Imagine you're back in Austin. On Friday night, you have plans with a 7/10 Asian-American with a job at a fashion magazine. Chances are she think she's out of your league.

                It's a white problem. If it's (you), another white simp will pay and pamper the 6.5/10 Asian-American. Asian-American female are the biggest entitled POS in USA, next to white women.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know if I am a special case but I have 4+ passports and they have have various freedom of movement agreements. I have over 15 bank accounts in various countries and I do academic writing in a niche field online for 80 euros an hour, and depending where I am I just get the money sent to a bank account that doesn't charge high fees. I don't have a tax ID in many of these countries but I don't need to worry about visas in any Caribbean Commuunity, European Union, MERISCOUR or Australia/NZL. I don't pay taxes at "home' wherever that is and my salary is the same. Most "nomads" I've met are similar to me, multiple passports, identities, banks, and similar fields. So there are people out there like me. I guess.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I doubt anyone here has even gone through the process of trying to find one of these roles, so they have no idea

                im sitting comfy. its all G for me.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Refer to this

                Okay and...

                is it a startup?
                do you get paid an adjusted salary for the country you've moved too?
                do you pay taxes back in your home country?
                are you working on a tourist visa?

                if the answer is yes to any of the above, you do not have one of these roles.

                If the answer is no, then what's your net after tax each month and what are you spending on rent.

                Genuinely curious because I searched for months and found literally nothing to even apply too that matched this criteria.

                NTA but i declared tax residency in South Dakota to dodge state taxes. I still pay federal but w/e thats still a %10 raise compared to living in some cuck city in the US. i can live in SEA or LATAM for half what i would pay in the US for an equivalent accommodation. not even mentioning the cooming. i dont even buy groceries, i eat out 3 times a day and it costs me less than $10.

                Is this contract work? through an llc / ltd? Are you working on a tourist visa?

                This is my issue with it all, yeah it's pretty cool for a few months but you cannot keep this going long term if you want to settle down there.. which is ultimately what I'm trying to do.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i do it all through tourist visa. i can bounce from Thailand to Cambodia to Vietnam for a good 9 months before they get suspect on me. $80 a flight. I'll come back to the US for a month or so before i bounce out to Buenos Aires.

                i dont give a shit about "settling down". thats a meme to me.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >men want to be free, women don't want you to. that's what ive learned.
                It all comes down to American roastie entitlement. She wants you tied to her by the law, obliged to give her resources just for existing.

                Her end of the bargain? Absolutely nothing. Women don't owe you sex incel. The minute she decides to leave you, it's her right to take the house, the kids, and all your disposable income.

                Feminism is unironically the "divine right of kings" ideology but for roasties.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              but anon, the most unhinged pathetic losers are white english teachers in Asia. Not "hating", it's just how things are. Degenerate losers go to asia so they can get drunk and make $2K a month teaching english. Imagine the lost opportinity cost making $2K a month in your 20s, if the person had worked for 8 hours in America, they have 8 years of work experience and can easily climb to 6 figures. I have yet to meet a decent normal "ESL teacher" in Asia.

              Remote tech bros are fine. Doctors are fine. If you work in Asia because your corp office is in Asia, that's fine too. Biggest morons are ESL teachers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not everyone can earn six figures, Anon, by definition. Otherwise, the average salary in the West would be six figures (or at least something in the high five figures, even).

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                why do you care so much about what people do for a living? do you go out and find people in the usa making 2k or less a month and call them a loser irl?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                People like him love pointing out that gold-digging chink bawds won't go for you if you're an English teacher... as if that weren't obvious. They try to pretend that there aren't millions of women in Asia willing to go with white men, English teachers or not.

                It all comes down to jealousy. They hate that people have the nerve to be younger and freer than them. Let them wallow in it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >They try to pretend that there aren't millions of women in Asia willing to go with white men, English teachers or not.
                The proof is in the pudding when you look at Winston (serpentza, that cringy youtuber). He made videos about how he was pick on growing up because he was fat. I can well believe the idea he's never had feminine attention in his life, just from the way he is. There's no mistaking it: he's a loser, a bum, a fool ("I trained doctors in China" lol).

                Forced to make cringy politicized YouTube videos now that he can't even support himself the only way he knows how, giving English lessons in China. He has dim economic prospects; he's South African, he may be white but his career opportunities are shit unless he has another passport. On top of that, he has like the opposite of charisma. He always comes off condescending and tryhard when you speak to him. He's always parading in ridiculous cheap suits when in China to LARP as an actual professional, when anyone with half a brain knows that's a lie.

                And yet, he's married to a doctor, a woman who on top of that isn't bad looking either. Yes she's a divorcée and he probably snagged her at 27, well beyond her expiration date for dating Chinese guys. But the fact that an objective failure like Winston can pull like that in China proves JBW isn't completely dead.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In b4 someone calls me gay for him, but despite some hair loss and weight issues, Winston does actually have a very "normie" looking face. He doesn't look at all ugly, just like very much an everyman.

                Combine that with a little dressing up (the suit thing is fine in Asia because these people barely believe in the concept of overdressed plus it beats the meme ratty t-shirt and cargo pants look that teachergays usually get teased mercilessly for) plus the fact that he had the sort of hobby a lot of Westoid-friendly Chinese girls would like (going on motorbike tours around China is sort of a textbook "look at me, I'm sort of adventurous, can do stereotypical guy stuff like fix engines, and am interested in your country" kind of thing) and I'm not surprised he was able to get some woman or women.

                Also, to be honest the meme that Western rusty social skills are easier to get away with in Asia is absolutely right. Just like Westerners often can't tell the difference between an Asian just being polite and humble by their standards and someone unusually shy and bad at communicating, Asians male or female often can't tell the difference between an annoying loud doofus and a more "normally" extroverted, outgoing Westerner.

                Winston actually isn't that bad in this regard, but yeah he is a little autistic and yeah it obviously did slide in the Guo in a way that it might not quite have overseas. I do think he'd still be able to do say, a similar English teaching role in the West, but he might end up "that guy" among his co-workers or whatever.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >plus the fact that he had the sort of hobby a lot of Westoid-friendly Chinese girls would like (going on motorbike tours around China is sort of a textbook "look at me, I'm sort of adventurous, can do stereotypical guy stuff like fix engines, and am interested in your country" kind of thing) and I'm not surprised he was able to get some woman or women.
                Oh shit is this a lowkey redpill? Because I know the Soviet spy Richard Sorge was absolutely slaying in the 1940's, and he was a motorcycle rider too. Used to drive so recklessly that he got in an accident that almost left him dead, because he drank himself under the table constantly to cope with the fact that, as a Soviet spy behind enemy lines in Imperial Japan, he'd face almost certain torture and execution if caught. But he somehow managed to make it alone until the ass end of the war (if he survived another year he would have probably not been caught and murdered by the Japanese).

                I'm 99% sure that he would have been a SighSee poster. Is riding a bike actually a playboy move? I can see how that sort of reckless bravery would be appealing to women. Imagine how thrilled a repressed Asian girl would be to hold a handsome foreigner tight and drive through a chaotic metropolis at 80mph.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I do think he'd still be able to do say, a similar English teaching role in the West, but he might end up "that guy" among his co-workers or whatever.
                In the United States, he'd be basically an Uber Eats driver. Do you know how little adjunct professors make, compared to their levels of education? And that's for people with actual qualifications, unlike Winston. With an actual job at a university! Not everyone with a PhD lands a tenured position.

                Winston is living in Los Angeles, to my knowledge he is not a US citizen. But he has a wife and child, who are not US citizens either, that I know of. This restricts him to the most menial jobs, in one of the most expensive cities in the United States: a country which, due to its high salaries, can be impossibly expensive in some places. The fact that he's continuing to make his shit content even though he has nothing new to go on with is a clear sign of his desperation. He needs every penny of that little Youtube money he can get.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >In the United States, he'd be basically an Uber Eats driver. Do you know how little adjunct professors make, compared to their levels of education? And that's for people with actual qualifications, unlike Winston. With an actual job at a university! Not everyone with a PhD lands a tenured position.

                You're getting into a payscale argument, I just meant that I think someone like him could probably get work as a TEFL teacher at a training center/cram school for Asians in LA or whatever even if he is a sperg.

                I'm guessing he's just sick of English teaching and would rather not, plus he's (in)famous now, so a lot of schools might not want the (negative) attention from the Chinese community and government that hiring someone like Winston would bring down on them. Once he went all political, there was no turning back.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >They try to pretend that there aren't millions of women in Asia willing to go with white men, English teachers or not.
                The proof is in the pudding when you look at Winston (serpentza, that cringy youtuber). He made videos about how he was pick on growing up because he was fat. I can well believe the idea he's never had feminine attention in his life, just from the way he is. There's no mistaking it: he's a loser, a bum, a fool ("I trained doctors in China" lol).

                Forced to make cringy politicized YouTube videos now that he can't even support himself the only way he knows how, giving English lessons in China. He has dim economic prospects; he's South African, he may be white but his career opportunities are shit unless he has another passport. On top of that, he has like the opposite of charisma. He always comes off condescending and tryhard when you speak to him. He's always parading in ridiculous cheap suits when in China to LARP as an actual professional, when anyone with half a brain knows that's a lie.

                And yet, he's married to a doctor, a woman who on top of that isn't bad looking either. Yes she's a divorcée and he probably snagged her at 27, well beyond her expiration date for dating Chinese guys. But the fact that an objective failure like Winston can pull like that in China proves JBW isn't completely dead.

                >In the United States, he'd be basically an Uber Eats driver.

                Think what you want about winston, he always gets back on his feet. Guy does whatever gets him money. It used to be IT and computer repairs, then it became english teaching, then youtube. If it works, it works. It's also very likely he's not just spending all his shit month to month, and has some investments on the side he's keeping private. Even youtube-wise, he managed to grow his channel even after he left China.
                If the whole youtube thing runs dry, he'll probably either change the formula or go with something else entirely.

                This idea that the guy is on his last legs when his entire life was basically him improvising all along is ridiculous.

                > But the fact that an objective failure like Winston can pull like that in China proves JBW isn't completely dead.

                In my 9 years in living in Asia (Taiwan, Singapore, China), I can guarantee, divorcee or not, that foreigners don't just all get with cute, young doctors like Sasha. A lot of them end up with uglies like them. Dating is certainly easier in China, but for marriages your expectations will be about what you'll get in the West. Also, this idea that chinese women are considered failures if they do not marry after 25 isn't true for all people, especially women who pursue long studies like she did. I've seen many girls pursuing a PhD in my former lab that only got married in their mid thirties and have zero problem going on regular dates. China is one billion and half strong, not everyone thinks alike.

                Winston pulls because he's a confident, adventurous dude that knows a little bit about the culture and knows how to navigate it.

                >he's a loser, a bum, a fool ("I trained doctors in China" lol).
                He's a guy who travelled across the entire continent, met a shit ton of people (probably fricked them, too), always got back on his feet, and has a lovely wife. You're on the travel board of SighSee hating on him. Who's the loser really ?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not who you're replying to but my 2¢ - he's obviously not a loser and I quite like his old videos. It's just that his content sucks now. Ill never watch his shit again but nothing against him personally

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ok winston

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Because he is a homosexual.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You've got a warped vision of salary expectations bro. Most people in western europe earn around that figure for most of their lives. Earning that figure in SEA or mainland China basically guarantees that you'll have a more than honorable life.

                Not only that, but no matter what TEFLers say, your working condition are very, VERY good. Once your course material is figured out, you basically will be working between 20 to 30 hours doing low stakes tasks. If you're interested in earning more, moonlighting, online or otherwise, is always an option. And if you don't want to work, you basically have a more than tolerable working schedule that doesn't take a toll on your mind.

                Also, what are you going to do with that extra money anyway ? Buy a house ? Rent is 400 bucks.

                The frick is the matter with you people who think success is about working high stakes shit, having to spend your nights awake writing reports or dealing with crunch time ? That is literally your insecurity talking. I have nothing to compensate for.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Very well said

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, what are you going to do with that extra money anyway ?

                poor gay cope. stop acting like having a lot of money is meh. making loads of dosh is awesome.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >moving the goalpost

                If you can, go ahead. If you can earn such an amount that will actually change your lifestyle to a healthier, superior one, go ahead. TEFLers earn more than most Taiwanese ever will, pay a third to a quarter of the rent you'll pay in a city of the same size as yours, and have nothing to ever worry about profession-wise : they will never run out of a job, they do not have any pressure associated with high stakes projects, and all their bosses ever ask out of them is their presence in class.

                At the same time, they have all the time in the world to either moonlight and double their salary, have some kind of occupation or hobby (DJs, bands, joining a club, working on a project on the side, professional or otherwise). Or they can fricking party and fingerfrick people as is customary in Asia. Why do you think so many of these homies are youtubers ? Even before they drop their jobs they have so much time on their hands they can literally drop a video every two weeks without any issues.

                You people wouldn't recognize a good life if it grabbed you by the pussy and fricked you in the ass.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >roastie cope
            If you need to pretend criticism only comes from those whose opinion you've already discarded you've already lead yourself down a bad path.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I knew people who went to Asia, the best part (Japan/Korea) and zero of them, male or female, wanted anything to do with the locals. They always settle down with thier own kind even if they stayed in Asia.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Two keep differences. One is that the languages in Asia are so hard for westerners, so people living there can't do anything adult like mail things at the post office or handle visa paperwork. At least if Latin America or Africa you can kinda get by with guessing similar words. Also, there's so much demand to go to those countries (because of anime, Kpop, and QT women) that they can get away with paying English teachers complete shit. At least other parts of the world have to pay decent salaries (by local standards) because noone would come there otherwise. But in Asia, especially Japan, you see this middle-aged white guys who are living at like 10th percentile of local income, completely unable to do any normal adult task, and they are obviously only there for some perverted reason.

        BTW I'm one of those guys.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This theory of yours needs some work. TEFL salaries in China are quite high vs. the cost of living, and yet TEFL teachers in China get shit on as much, if not more than their counterparts in Korea and Japan.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This might be the dumbest fricking thing I've read on this board.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks, I'm honored

            This theory of yours needs some work. TEFL salaries in China are quite high vs. the cost of living, and yet TEFL teachers in China get shit on as much, if not more than their counterparts in Korea and Japan.

            I feel like English teachers in China get shit on a lot less than the ones in Japan/Korea/SEA. "I want to learn about the world's new largest economy" is a valid-sounding excuse, and there aren't many people going there for Chinese pop culture to embarrass you by association.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          youre just a no-effort fricking moron. i knew the vast majority of lifers in korea where i was and after me learning korean and getting really good at it simply from interacting and listening every day i realized you people are fricking babies. its insanely easy to learn a language that you are immersed in, the learning curve is so fricking shallow once you get past the kind of most common 500 words and basic grammar. if this is real you need to neck. btw i left korea several years ago because i was sick of the homosexuals like you who were the vast, vast majority of the lifer foreigner community and because i knew i would never actually increase my salary in any meaningful way. neck.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            This. You have to be willfully moronic to not pick up the local language. I spent a year in Japan when I was in the Navy and by month 6 I was able to have conversations with people and read signs no problem. Yeah I still got Nihongo Jouzu’d because of my accent and I wouldn’t say I was fluent, but you get my point.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >japan
              >navy
              Okinawa does not count as spending a year in Japan. Okinawa to Japan is like Hawaii to the USA. Completely different.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What a weird and sheltered attitude. Not even that poster but there are several posts where the Navy can be stationed in Japan. Okinawa isn't even the only naval post.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I wasn't in Okinawa. I was in Fukuoka, Sasebo, and Iwakuni.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Asian teaching rates are a lot better than US. Esp China pays well

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I recall checking just before lockdowns started and becoming an engrish teaching monkey had the same annual salary as my (non-entry level) job here in ontario

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >*an engrish teaching monkey job in china
              Frick

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are talking to shills. I know whites that live in Asia and nobody there has a problem with it. Think about it, white men in the West are not appreciated anymore and every day we pay more taxes and our currency is further devalued. Shills don't want you to move to SEA because doing so would significantly improve your life.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't? Nobody cares. If anything, normal people (i.e. not terminally online virgins on a chinese cartoon website) are jealous of those who go to live abroad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >chinese cartoon website
      Triggered

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >like Africa or the Middle East
    Those aren't contentious because everyone agrees that they don't want to go there.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There are tens of thousands of Westerners living in Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i'm an english teacher in asia. i get to live in an interesting country with friendly and polite people, all the while making OK money and having easy access to dozens of "exotic" travel destinations. i've been here for two years and i'm still waking up with a smile on my face every morning, why would i care if someone working 8-6 for 2k a year thinks i'm a LFH?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      whatever makes you happy, anon. but know that even local Asians (and whites) know that you're a disgruntled loser.

      https://www.quora.com/Do-foreign-English-teachers-have-a-bad-reputation-in-Asia?share=1

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        When is it that someone becomes a loser? After five years of English teaching overseas? One year? When getting on the plane? When even thinking about taking the job?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >When is it that someone becomes a loser?

          It's a state of mind, anon.

          1. You have a no skill job compare to tech bros, accountants, doctors

          2. Running away from your family, culture and friends to move and live in a third world shithole or some foreign country

          English teacher is the white equivalent of a flippino working abroad making coffee

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >1. You have a no skill job compare to tech bros, accountants, doctors

            Most workers anywhere aren't tech bros, accountants, or doctors.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Most workers anywhere aren't tech bros, accountants, or doctors.

              Even the car mechanic or chef has more skill than an english teacher

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What's actually wrong with someone teaching others their own language? Also, this argument against TEFL teachers rarely seems to be as often deployed against native teachers of Chinese, Spanish, French, or other non-English languages.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >this argument against TEFL teachers rarely seems to be as often deployed against native teachers of Chinese, Spanish, French, or other non-English languages.
                Because it’s entirely a feminist derision tactic to stop men from leaving their countries (and leaving the feminists), and guess what? Most feminists are in the ANGLOSPHERE.

                So what language teachers get b***hed at by feminist roasties? ENGLISH. Foreign countries do not nearly have the same totalitarian gynocentric culture that we do.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A large number of the people who responded to that post claim to be working in China. China is a country where it is literally illegal to use the internet outside of the confines of what the CCP allows. I wonder why the CCP wouldn't want English being taught in Asia LMAO.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >China is a country where it is literally illegal to use the internet outside of the confines of what the CCP allows.
          Those blocks are easily circumvented. In any case, they're not worried about what whitey gets up to on his computer. They're worried about their own dissidents.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            They're not even worried about their own dissidents.
            The blocks are a convenient way to shelter your people from outside information and as strategic blackmail material if you want people and companies to cooperate.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Honest answer? Jealousy.

    Just like a fat b***h hating on a skinny woman by calling her anorexic or a bawd, myopic wagecels that are tied down with a shitty job, student loans, big mortgage, ugly wife, useless kids, etc. seethe with jealousy at TEFLGODS who do what they want and go where they please. These same people dream about killing their boss or quitting their job to travel but they know deep down inside they'd never have the balls to risk upending their lives and moving halfway across the world.

    Are there weirdos among English teachers abroad? Without a doubt. But guess what, literally ever field of work from cleaning toilets to medicine and finance has creeps and losers in it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Honest answer? Jealousy.

      Lol. Maybe the locals are jealous of a white expat making $2K a month. Other expats LAUGH at the 30 year old expat making $2K doing a english teaching money job.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I’m sure wealthy people everywhere feel smug about their position compared to people on more ordinary incomes.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I’m sure wealthy people everywhere feel smug about their position compared to people on more ordinary incomes.
          Nobody thinks about the people beneath them. They think about their perceived equals and betters. That's how you can tell posters like

          https://i.imgur.com/e0e80E0.jpg

          >Honest answer? Jealousy.

          Lol. Maybe the locals are jealous of a white expat making $2K a month. Other expats LAUGH at the 30 year old expat making $2K doing a english teaching money job.

          are failures in life.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >other expats

        If you're referring to Korea (based off your picture), the other expats are usually doing even more meme roles like "model" or trying to make it as a TV personality.. Or have an F6 visa because they married a local.

        The higher paid expats are brought in for a few months maybe half a year to get things up to speed and then dip... I'm yet to meet one expat in Korea who was a serious high flyer working for Samsung or whatever.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          lol but you can encounter them all the time, would constantly run into online forum obsessed bald white homosexuals who said they worked for some company making a zillion dollars and could "LeAvE AnYTiMe ThEy WaNt"

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    nothing is controversial if you don't give a frick about what other people think
    its easy
    just....stop caring, and do what you want
    wow, it's like a whole new lease on life

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    White men are treated better in Asia than in their own countries.

    If you countersignal ANY White man going to Asia, you are either a woman, an envious brown, or a COLOSSAL homosexual. It doesn't matter if some are "losers" (who frickin cares) - they are choosing, consciously or not, to stop being tax cattle for Black folk inside of max security pussy prison penitentiary, aka 'The West". Why ANYONE who isn't in one of the above three categories would seethe over this is beyond me.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Asia attracts losers and dweebs who can't get laid in their own country

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well ,yes. I do love me some Asian pussy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So does Latin America and Africa.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "if you're only successful going to Asia and can't make it in the US then you're a loser!"
    "Only losers and failures go to Asia"
    "Losers will still be losers in Asia"

    I never understood this mentality. Even former burger flipping uneducated English teachers are making bank. Why hate on them for increasing their wealth with little effort?

    Even if it is true, so what? Is it that these people can't stand when losers make more than them with less effort? Or are these people born with wealthy parents and hate opportunists? I'm really curious why these people are so obsessed hating on other people who would otherwise be wasting their lives getting mugged and flipping burgers in the US. Seems rather pathetic tbh.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Even former burger flipping uneducated English teachers are making bank

      Yes making $2K a month is "bank"

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        An average English teachers salary is roughly what Chinese professionals earn but with a fraction of the workload. Low cost of living and taxes mean you're saving most of what you make. If you're a hustler and stay long enough to make connections it's possible to earn six-figures (USD) with side gigs teaching rich Chinese families kids.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the thing re: english teaching like this is that yeah you can eventually start stacking ideal work schedules like some school that needs you to work from 10am-1pm for 1,600 dollars, then do 2pm to 5pm for 2,000 a month then either some dedicated evening shit or tons of private classes. you can make a lot of money but the organizing of it and tendency for changes in schedule fricking up the whole thing can cause a lot of headaches.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >esl teaching
            >stack money
            All that time and effort would be wasted on something with such low returns. You will never see "good" money teaching English, unless you work at a University. But once again, the money will be peanuts compared to what you could've attained in the west considering how much effort and time you had to put in.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >how much effort you had to put in
              Not him but my master's degree was piss easy. Like 20 hours a week at most. And it was all bullshit too, if you've ever taken language didactics classes you'll know what I mean. These people actuallywrite theses to define what is an exercise and what is an activity in a language manual, if you aren't moronic it's a free degree.
              Same for my working hours, I really don't do much. The pay in Asia is actually better than the one I could get in Europe (except maybe in 2-3 countries). I don't teach English though I teach my native language.

              Also living abroad lets me cheat property taxes on property which is neither where I live nor in my home country, idk if it's the same for everyone.

              And much more importantly it's an actually enjoyable job because frankly writing lines of code all day or doing soulless e-marketing garbage would make me want to kill myself very quickly.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They make more than that. Entry is around $3-4k pm while federal min wages in US would be a little more than $1k pm. They'd quadruple their income. So yeah, they are making bank.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You're a loser Brett, we get it. Now run around in Cambodia teaching english and drink your $0.50 beer

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Basically Winston must live in a crackhouse with a wife and child, that is how much of a failure in life he is. If what he says about being taken seriously enough to be harassed by the CCP out of the country is true, he chose his stupid youtube hobby over the fresh start in life China afforded him, and is now paying the consequences.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is traveling and working in Asia so controversial?
    Because it's mostly done by losers and creeps like most of the userbase ITT.
    /thread

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What is it about Asia that's a magnet to losers and creeps, more than other parts of the non-Western world?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        its the only place that doesn't have Black folk

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Likely the combination of white worship, relative safety, and the culture of shyness which helps with getting away with being socially inept.
        Also, the influence of anime which often features various losers, hikikomori and sexual deviants as protagonists.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why would I wanna marry a white woman

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's 2023, so much business across the world is transacted in english that you could argue English fluency is as important as knowing how to do math or use a computer.

    the fact is, governments across the world want their citizens to know english. they provide the jobs, they create the demand, and i'm there to fill the niche. i take my job seriously, i pay into social security so obaachan doesn't die in squalor, i support local businesses and my community at large, and i do my best not to ruffle anyone's feathers. if anyone wants to hate on me for being an english teacher, it's a personal problem.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    id definitely feel better working a real job in asia as opposed to being a english teacher. yes i would be smug because i had to work harder than taking the easy route whats wrong with that? also i think asia is very unique in that japan and korea are 1st world but also exotic at the same time so its an a very attractive destination.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >i would be smug because i had to work harder

      I recommend that you do move to Asia, you will fit in well with this attitude.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Also women being overly reliant on prostate orgasms for satisfaction in a culture of machista men who will not go down on her (most PIV sex by itself doesn't result in an orgasm for a woman, not unless someone's flicked her bean too)

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Eurogay here. In my country, anyone who moves out to japan or south korea are almost idolized.
    I don't know where you live OP, but unless you go to china, working in select asian countries is considered to be very professional.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Europe still has a healthy (if not naive assumption) that a person moving aboard is some young professional on the up and up in their corporate job. The certainly happens in the US too, but the difference is no one is fooled by the college frickup with a 2.5 GPA in communication studies who just barely got some ESL gig in bumfrick prefecture.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When you say "white expat in asia" people think of a greasy hair, socially awkward white nerd. maybe he has an asian fetish. goes to asia to get a girlfriend or wife. willing to get a paycut.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I can’t stand that there’s homosexuals living my dream abroad. I’m too socially anxious to teach English and self counscious about how pathetic a job it is, but I’m also to low IQ and lazy to learn to code.

    Everyday is just me biding my time until I can go abroad somewhere. I have to wait until July 2024 to travel again, and it can only be for 6 months.

    If I was some room temperature IQ small town moron they knew absolutely nothing about how good life can be outside the US that’s one thing, but i literally lived like a king baller for 15 months and then tucked my tail between my legs and came home with no plan and 2k in my pocket.

    The feeling I get when im watching a macro economics podcast and one of the homosexuals is “reporting live from a hotel in Singapore” makes me want to kill myself. I know that homosexual is arbitraging his western salary and whiteness to regularly party with and have sex with white skinned East Asian cuties in a safe and homogenous culture of managers and respect for wealth etc.

    I cannot fricking stand it. I’m surrounded by horrid ugly American pieces of shit in this hellscape. I cannot stand it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You will repeat the same pattern TTT. You save up for 2 years, creampie for 6 months, return back to America. You don't solve the fundamental issue, which is making money online. There are DUMB Black folk making online right now. Why can't you?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I too have advised TTT to work online, even doing minimum wage work. He gave a reasonable reply about this forcing him to save for retirement. But he's so unhappy in the US, I think he would do better living half the year in SEA, just not back in Pattaya full time.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I too have advised TTT to work online, even doing minimum wage work. He gave a reasonable reply about this forcing him to save for retirement. But he's so unhappy in the US, I think he would do better living half the year in SEA, just not back in Pattaya full time.

        I’ll look into fml

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >picrel
        Why did you bring this into my day anon

        Leaf news telecasts are like fingernails on a chalkboard

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Coomers don't want to share pussy. Tourists feel less special when they see other tourists at their chosen "exotic" destination. And stay-behinders get jealous and talk shit on those who travel.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How fricked are you if you're caught by police with a small, personal amount of drugs in China vs Japan? Obviously not at the airport, during a night out or something. Will weed edibles be easy to get?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      China is 100% guaranteed two weeks detention, followed by deportation and five-year entry ban (in all likelihood you'll never be issued a visa again even after five years). This is the case even if you test positive for drugs that you took before entering China. It would be extremely difficult to find drugs in any city other than maybe Shanghai as a tourist and even Shanghai they have done massive cleanup last few years.

      Can't speak to Japan

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Japan treats marijuana the same way they treat cocaine and heroin so you can expect to go to jail and be kept in a cell for up to 24 (or was it 28) days without being given so much as a phonecall to your family. Your country's embassy isn't allowed to help you either. At the end of your stretch you'll be quickly found guilty by a judge then deported and banned from the country.

        Damn so hard bro it's medication wtf

        Nah I'm kidding. Not a burnout that needs to smoke every day. I'll just have to give it up.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Japan treats marijuana the same way they treat cocaine and heroin so you can expect to go to jail and be kept in a cell for up to 24 (or was it 28) days without being given so much as a phonecall to your family. Your country's embassy isn't allowed to help you either. At the end of your stretch you'll be quickly found guilty by a judge then deported and banned from the country.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there's a synthetic form of THC thats currently legal in Japan. I think Osaka has a dispensary for it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's that stuff safe? I don't want to be smoking gas station bath salts or whatever to get high. If there's one thing I've learn from travel it's to steer clear of the weird shit the local junkies are on. Though I suppose japs would be more intelligent and disciplined about what they put into their bodies.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Synthetic shit isn’t safe. It’s a niche product just used by foreign dumbasses.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      don't do drugs fricking moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Well you know what they say about opinions. Everybody's got one.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Well you know what they say about opinions. Everybody's got one.

      >DUDE WEED. DO YOU HAVE SOME WEED DUDE? SEVERAL YEARS IN PRISON AND A CRIMINAL RECORD?! I DIN'T CARE DUDE I NEED SOME WEED. NO, WEED ISN'T ADDICTIVE BRO! DID YOU KNOW APCOHOL IS WORSE FOR YOU THAN WEED?!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anti-weed feeling is coming back in force, so beware of doing drugs overseas. The first half of the 2010s were really the best tine for that, but after 2018/2019 things got a lot more 80s conservative REAL fast. Barcelona cleaned their shit up, so did shitaly. Zoomers in general are weird; they are super boomers on steroids when it comes to narcing, but at the same time binge heavily in drugs ans alcohol on occassion. So actually they’re just exactly like boomers L O L

      Even in “legal” states you can get railroaded and packed off to prison for weed. Just all around a terroble decision to make in this homosexual cultural climate we have right now.

      I stopped going to amsterdam for this very reason. Read the writing on the wall, dude

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Barcelona cleaned their shit up, so did shitaly.
        I was stoned every other minute when I spent a month in Barcelona last summer, and I was far from the only one. Seems like all the hipster girls from Great Britain were out in force to spread chlamydia and do spliffs. Never ran into trouble once. I could even buy it legally (though granted, it's not supposed to leave the weed clubs).

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t believe you, saw they shut down a lot of the clubs 4 tourists ans now the remaining ones wont let you in. Used to be able to DM them and they’d let you in but now you have to be spanish.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Used to be able to DM them and they’d let you in but now you have to be spanish.
            That's really sad if it's true. But I can confirm it was NOT the case last summer. I was able to get weed club memberships using my US passport, and I saw other foreigners get in with theirs too.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              How did you get in? Just by DMing them?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I sent them an email politely requesting an invitation before showing up. It's worth keeping in mind that you are NOT entitled to membership in any of these, they can and will revoke it at any time if they see fit. These places have to be on the straight and narrow to keep their licenses, so they keep their eyes peeled for anyone causing trouble.

                I saw another American get turned away because he thought he could show up before getting an invitation. They give them out to pretty much anyone who solicits one, but that does NOT mean you can just show up without it.

                There are strict laws governing weed clubs that mean they CANNOT adversely impact the character of a neighborhood. That means randos can't just wander in to get high. You are liable to get banned even for standing outside one scrolling your phone. The entrance has to be discrete and not advertise what it is in any way shape or form.

                They're supposed to be nonprofits, but it sounds like the ideal business to own. Imagine getting paid to sit around behind a counter, occasionally serving drinks to select people while stoned.

                t. held several weed club memberships when I spent a month in Barcelona last year

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I dont understand your point about zoomers, please explain
        T.zoomer

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ayo bruh I got robbed in Korea

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I did a working holiday in Japan and loved it. I like the country side but also the city and it seems easier to access than Australia. The scenery is more aesthetic to me than typical Aussie stuff (I like photography). I feel disgusted by most western women (including western born Asians) since having that experience and coming back and feel like it's a good reason to move back, though there's down sides like the divorce situation in Japan and being able to basically legally kidnap kids and what not. Also feel disgusted by the cities here too since coming back, and thoroughly annoyed every time I see a 7-11 here.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think this debate is mostly online/imaginary, perpetuated mostly by people with yellow fever getting weird about being called out as people with yellow fever by other people with yellow fever. In the real world the enormous majority of normal people make no issue of working or traveling in Asia.

    That said, I was an academic focused on Asia (did PhD work in/about Thailand), and moved first in academic circles, then INGO/multilateral expat circles, then high-dollar white-collar corporate expat circles for quite a few years, and can say confidently that among white men, a significant majority of highly-paid professionals working on/in Asia, and a significant majority of academics studying Asian issues, are dudes with yellow fever. Nearly everyone I worked or studied with was amazed to learn my wife wasn’t Thai.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot to add, my wife is from The Philippines.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        LOL, nope. I was the weird guy working on Asia without any yellow fever at all. But the IT guy at one of my employers was married to a Pinay and had done the honorable thing of importing his mother-in-law as well once his wife got pregnant. He mentioned, among other things, never having had to change a diaper or pack a school lunch in his kids’ entire childhoods.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          a buddy of mine married a pinay almost strictly as an arrangement when we were in the Navy together. he got extra pay for being married and was able to live off base, and she got to move to the states and get residency after so many years. they both agreed to a mutual divorce/annulment after he got out of the military.

          she got a job but she would still cook and clean for him and suck his dick whenever while they were living under the same roof. his house was fricking spotless. he would smirk at me and say "its not just clean anon, its pinay clean"

          bastard.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You need to worry less about what other people think. Anyway, it really all comes back to malding western roasties who know they can't compete with Asian women.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All white dudes who need to travel to enjoy life are losers, especially passport bros. High value men don't need to visit a different country to have women. I always ghost white men who date non-whites. Especially Asian, as that's the BBC for white men. I remember going on a date with a low-value man, probably from LULZ, and he could barely look me in the eye and would twitch a lot. I confronted him on why he dated Asians and his answers were compete yuck. People would rather take the easy road than become the best version of themselves.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        When you're so pornsick and yick, you can't comprehend the real world anymore...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >roastie detected, opinion rejected
      You realize the entire point of "passport bros" is they don't give a single isolated frick what you think, right? Also, I'm willing to bet you've got the obligatory undercut and septum piercing, and are a tireless supporter of the current thing, but you're showing your own bigotry in your biases and implied superiority over women from SEA. The vast majority of which are more feminine, more educated, and more expressive than western thots.

      You literally can't compete, and that's why you're malding.

      >I confronted him on why he dated Asians
      A big reason is probably because they almost never grill someone who invested their time and money to take them on a date on their past dating choices. Ties into one of their biggest draws over white women; they don't see being agreeable, affectionate, and supportive to their man as being somehow beneath them.

      The simple fact of the matter is this, western women are not good partners because they feel entitled to everything yet offer nothing beyond a truly impressive capacity to complicate one's life.

      What triggers you is more and more men have realized they're just a plane ride away from not having to deal with your narcissism, or having to settle for your blown-out, ran-through, refurbished holes.

      Cope. Seethe. Adopt furbabies. Drink wine. Cry about it on TikTok.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That picture really says a lot about you. The hypocrisy as you're likely a porn sick man that is addicted to porn and video games. Your baby penis probably doesn't work anymore.
        >You realize the entire point of "passport bros" is they don't give a single isolated frick what you think, right?
        That's a lot of words to describe Asperger's syndrome.
        > I'm willing to bet you've got the obligatory undercut and septum piercing, and are a tireless supporter of the current thing
        I don't pierce or do any type of "body modifications" or get involved with politics due to my Christian religion. I don't care about worldly trends.
        >and implied superiority over women from SEA
        White women are the most desired women. Asian women are a poor imitation with no figure. Just cope more, loser. It's like the white girl with a black man, everyone knows the truth.
        >You literally can't compete
        Bless your heart, but I only date high value men. The type of men that can afford to give more than a Jollibee meal as a date.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Why is the hole talking?
          >That picture really says a lot about you. The hypocrisy as you're likely a porn sick man that is addicted to porn and video games. Your baby penis probably doesn't work anymore
          That's a lot of words just to say that you're triggered.
          >my Christian religion
          You've taken dick from someone you're not married to; you're not a christian. You're incredibly judgmental of others, and utterly devoid of humility; you're not a christian. You're an unremarkable prostitute performing mental gymnastics to try and convince yourself you have some sort of moral high ground. You don't.
          >I don't care about worldly trends
          That works out nicely, as worldly trends don't care about you.
          >White women are the most desired women
          >mfw
          >Asian women are a poor imitation with no figure
          You're not "curvy" you're fat. You don't have a "figure" you're just obese. You will never have a thigh gap. You will always be a slam pig.
          >I only date high value men
          b***h you've never been in the same room as a high value man.
          >that can afford to give more than a Jollibee meal as a date
          But clearly not a ring. Why are you single? Why doesn't anyone want you? Congratulations, dudes will run game and buy you food to frick you, like any other dumb b***h; you're not special. You think you've got it figured out, but you're just another dumb prostitute, riding the wiener carousel straight into the wall. Might as well start practicing... say it with me now; "WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE!?"

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >White women are the most desired women
          Roastie, I...

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I don’t care about worldly trends
          But you came in this thread to talk about race mixed relationships and sex tourism

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I openly (albeit unintentionally, and with language that is as ignorant as it is reductive) acknowledge that the women who are younger than me, fitter than me, more beautiful than me, less ran through than me, more pleasant than me, more affectionate than me, more agreeable than me... are also more appreciative than me
          >Somehow this is supposed to be an L for the boys
          Repectfully, no. The cognitive dissonance of western women never fails to amaze. This may be hard for you, and other roasties ODing on copium to reconcile, but the dudes who are time rich and money rich enough to travel and pursue women abroad at will, aren't broke losers.

          Men of means are looking elsewhere because, speaking plainly, the west is a sinking ship, financially and culturally. In addition, western women are just... the worst, and I can condense the "why" down to a few points,
          1. Respect, affection, and loyalty, AKA the three things men need to find happiness and fulfillment in a relationship, are anathema to you.
          2. Your extreme woke values (that is to say, non-values) are irreconcilable with our own, and I'll add that in the case of white women especially, the ease and enthusiasm with which you have betrayed the civilization which has provided you such privilege is nothing short of repulsive.
          3. You demand everything, yet offer nothing. Being a "good woman" that is to say, just pleasant, agreeable, supportive, and being a sanctuary we can come home to, is somehow beneath you.

          Of course, I didn't have to explain any of this, because you already knew; if "passport bros" were really just men of no consequence, if they were really so beneath you as to be of no notice... you wouldn't have noticed them. The truth is, this is a growing trend among the men you want, among the men whom you hope to "settle down" with. And, much to your chagrin, our actions have responded with a collective, clear, and emphatic "no."

          I have to ask, did you really think men with options wouldn't use them?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            One, Black person you write like youre monologuing to some bawd that dumped you in a romcom. Two, youre replying to a bait post. Three, wyte wimminz of today are the responsibility of the vast number of cucked white fathers who failed miserably. Foids are feral, you can't monologue at them and expect them to feel bad, you just look like a moron.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >needing to call him a Black person like a mindless ape
              >posting nazi shit randomly

              Just hit the wall already you ogre. That anon is 100% correct

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Seeth cuck. I'm a yellow pussy breeder and you are literally the reason western girls behave like garbage. Start acting like a fricking man already

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >you write like youre monologuing to some bawd
              More to bawds in general, the collective abstraction bawds, if you will.
              >wyte wimminz of today are the responsibility of the vast number of cucked white fathers who failed miserably
              False; one cannot have responsibility without authority. The blame for the state of western women, and indeed, the decline of western civilization as a whole, can be placed solely on the 1% who have been bought and paid for by, and serve exclusively, the interests of the Zionist agenda. Which, ya know, hey, good for God's chosen people, go off I guess, BUT it also comes back to why "passport bros" exist in the first place; the only way to win isn't to not play, it's to pick a different board. tl;dr: We live in a failed state, that failed by design, fathers haven't had any rights or authority for some time, you don't actually own anything, get out while you can.

              To be fair though... you're not entirely wrong, any dude who falls for the marriage meme *now* in the age of information, should know better, but you can't apply the same standards to the dudes who fathered the women of today; those poor bastards had nothing to go on except anecdotes, propaganda, and a dream... besides, presentism is cringe as frick.
              >Two, youre replying to a bait post
              You think way too highly of holes, they really are that moronic and solipsistic.
              >you can't monologue at them and expect them to feel bad
              How they feel is irrelevant, that's my entire point.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No one cares, you are not the main character in a movie.

                >rambling about juice
                You are absolving blame from men but then blaming the overgrown children thst are women because... reasons?

                >marriage is like a SCAM bro
                If you plan to die childless and fricking prosties or your sock your whole life, sure is

                That's a bait poast by some other anon. You are unironically the moron, who wanted to spread his bitter loser monologue on the internet. And I am the moron who bothered to try and point out you sound like a self obsessed bitter loser.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i can get white women just fine, but why not why leverage my exorbitant american salary and "exotic" status to travel overseas and punch above my weight? why settle for a US 6 or 7 when I can go get a SEA/LATAM/EE 8 or 9?

      not even mentioning the QoL improvements wielding USD get you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      White women are judgey, believe that loyalty and devotion is beneath them, because they believe, due to how some branches of feminism fricked with the relationship dynamics, that it's only unilateral. I just can't have that in a relationship. And I know that anyone who dares say what I say will be assaulted with an avalanche of "i bet the guy doesn't do shit lol", but I do my part because if you don't, that's how you get a divorce.

      I can't be with someone that has a chip on their shoulder and always ask themselves whether a request or a favor asked is a form of belittling. House chores repartition is an example of that. She was pissed because she felt she was doing more than me when all she really did was the dishes SOMETIMES. The rest was entirely on me, but she still b***hed about how she shouldn't be doing this in this day and age.

      The straw that broke the camel's back was, and at the time we were *this* close to having kids. I was cooking something burnt oil started spilling everywhere, and some of it dangerously near a power cord. She didn't want to shut off the circuit breaker because I WASNT ASKING NICELY AND IT WAS BEING DEMEANING AND IT WASNT LIKE ME.
      BITCH, THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE. You could've been Jesus Christ himself and I would be fricking barking at you. Moments like this require absolute, unquestioning fricking trust. You can always complain

      And God fricking knows i've done some demeaning fricking shit too. She might've been a beautiful blonde girl, that giant common wart she had on her foot I had to deal with because she just couldn't look at the thing, and that time where she fricking pissed all over the bathroom because she was drunk, slipped, and just decided to give up and piss and puke all over the fricking thing (granted, that happened only once).

      So no, I tend to avoid white women because they became simply allergic to backing down and settling. I can't be the one that has to defuse every conflict ever.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you can always complain later*

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        When I dated White women before I traveled the world, every interaction or conversation became a competition. It was all so tiring. My last White girlfriend would never just simply agree with me. She'd have to interject her moronic opinion and add nothing if value to the conversation. It'd be about anything. I'm not doing that for the rest of my life. No thanks.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I've had the same experience with my last white GF. Worst part is she had a Masters and came off very "know-it-all".

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'll also add, since I've been asked before, that I didn't feel threatened by her being more educated. I thought it was a plus to be honest. I became annoyed that her "two cents" on almost any subject became two dollars worth of bullshit.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >When I dated White women before I traveled the world, every interaction or conversation became a competition.

          Western white women are moronic. But they grew up in a white society, around white men, with white parents, with "white" anglo saxon values. So many it's western society that is toxic?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Started around the end of the 17th century. Got more heated by the French revolution. Britcucks then proceeded to start with ending coverture, and now are continuing on to banning testicles entirely.

            The small remnants of traditional Christian communities are great, but they are small and hidden, you won't interact with them. They will replace us, God bless.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This post is too real anon
        May we find Asian wives soon

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's not "just" white western women. Even poojeets and Asian-Americans act and behave like entitled white women. It's fricked up, considering that white women grew up in a western white society, around white people, with "white" Anglo-Saxon values.

        I guess you can white western culture is toxic.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is traveling and wokring in Asia so controversial?
    Passport bro reporting in. Its not. Your a slave to everyone elses perception of you. I love asian b***hes.

    >language is hard for westerners
    Use any of the [insert language]pod.com

    >asia attracts losers and dweebs that cant get laid in their own country
    I guess you could call me George Costanza

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being ashamed of your yellow fever.

    I love asian c**t, asian c**t loves me. Simple as.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I had zero interest in Asian travel until I watched some videos of how fricking quaint and pleasant Japan looks.

    A country where both urban and rural life seems not miserable, entertainment isn't constantly trying to metagame the online click market by pandering to muh politics, and the primary goals of the government seem to actually be shit that matters like infrastructure and defense.

    Yeah it has problems like anywhere else, but the problems are mostly related to an aging population and petty corruption. Do you have any idea how refreshing it would be to live in a country where the big political scandal is just embezzling funds? Or being an old frick bitter about an old war? Where protests aren't excuses to destroy property and where people actually just discuss things instead of screaming at each other?

    Yeah I watched DBZ when I was 10 and play video games occasionally. But I couldn't give less of a shit that I'm geographically closer to Nintendo HQ. I'd give a shit about being able to walk down a major city street at night without being murdered.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I lived in Fukuoka for a year and if you are a by yourself person it’s top tier comfy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      These things are only possible in a homogeneous society. Thus, as the other autist said, the west is a sinking ship.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      t. suburban dropout nolifer with yellow fever who says the n word 3454 times a day

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You're acting like being racist towards blacks isn't a completely irrational response to their behavior.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >a completely irrational response to their behavior
          exactly moronic rice chaser smalldick

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >*rational response
            You know what I meant. I hadn't had caffeine. But seriously, it's really easy to champion for diversity when they haven't tried burning your city to the ground.
            t. Mossback Seattleite

            youre just a no-effort fricking moron. i knew the vast majority of lifers in korea where i was and after me learning korean and getting really good at it simply from interacting and listening every day i realized you people are fricking babies. its insanely easy to learn a language that you are immersed in, the learning curve is so fricking shallow once you get past the kind of most common 500 words and basic grammar. if this is real you need to neck. btw i left korea several years ago because i was sick of the homosexuals like you who were the vast, vast majority of the lifer foreigner community and because i knew i would never actually increase my salary in any meaningful way. neck.

            This. You have to be willfully moronic to not pick up the local language. I spent a year in Japan when I was in the Navy and by month 6 I was able to have conversations with people and read signs no problem. Yeah I still got Nihongo Jouzu’d because of my accent and I wouldn’t say I was fluent, but you get my point.

            Just wanna jump on this dogpile; if you've bothered to learn basic phrases, it's basically impossible to not snowball into being proficient enough to have conversations, just by interacting with locals day to day.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >n word
        Why are americans so fricking scared of using words? You want to say Black person, say fricking Black person. n word, c word, b word... are you fricking five?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      how does it feel to be a disappointment and walking fat white neckbeard stereotype with a small dick and tiny iq

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >a completely irrational response to their behavior
        exactly moronic rice chaser smalldick

        t. suburban dropout nolifer with yellow fever who says the n word 3454 times a day

        >raging samegay
        Very strange. Obvious roastie. Anyway

        I had zero interest in Asian travel until I watched some videos of how fricking quaint and pleasant Japan looks.

        A country where both urban and rural life seems not miserable, entertainment isn't constantly trying to metagame the online click market by pandering to muh politics, and the primary goals of the government seem to actually be shit that matters like infrastructure and defense.

        Yeah it has problems like anywhere else, but the problems are mostly related to an aging population and petty corruption. Do you have any idea how refreshing it would be to live in a country where the big political scandal is just embezzling funds? Or being an old frick bitter about an old war? Where protests aren't excuses to destroy property and where people actually just discuss things instead of screaming at each other?

        Yeah I watched DBZ when I was 10 and play video games occasionally. But I couldn't give less of a shit that I'm geographically closer to Nintendo HQ. I'd give a shit about being able to walk down a major city street at night without being murdered.

        >where people actually just discuss things instead of screaming at each other
        Raging roastie proves him correct

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >samegay
          pot kettle also

          [...]

          with your slurs

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"How do you do, fellow men?": The Post

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl-f "white"
    >69 matches

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this board feels like SighSee 2.0. Fricking moronic racebait everywhere. I bet half the people itt don't even fricking travel they just come to argue about sexpats and interracial sex, great fricking travel board

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Almost none of the racebait posts even stack up in reality. If you're going to shitpost, at least try to make it believable. Like I know several people who've traveled to Japan since it opened back up and not a single one of them was white. Most recent person I know of who made that trip was a korean lesbian. As a matter of fact, now that I think of it, out of all the white males that I've known in my life through school, college, work, friends, friends of friends.. I can't think of one that gave a single shit about asia in general. Or traveling for that matter.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          most of them are probably poorcucks coping with never getting to be a disgusting sextourist because of subsisting on neetbux

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this board has been inundated with pol-gays since covid started and have never left
        mods have been completely useless even after the board rules had to be updated because of the sheer shit quality of threads
        coomers are hellbent on derailing every thread, but cry foul every time they are called out on it
        now we have gays from SighSee of all places shitting up the place

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Idk man, I lived for 3 years in Taiwan making around $2200/month. My rent was $300/m and utilities around $10-20/m depending on the season. Gas was about $5 to fill up my scooter tank every two weeks. An average meal out cost $2-5. Health insurance was effectively free, basically like $5ish any time you want to visit the doctor for both the consultation and the prescription. My job was very easy other than having to deal with some annoying ass kids. Had two gfs during the time I was there and hooked up with about 13 girls. I saved up a ton of money without even really trying and could afford almost anything I wanted.

    Guess what? The instant I came back to the U.S., my savings got fricking nuked. Life here is not cozy at all. I didn't love Taiwan - if I'm being honest, it really got on my nerves after awhile. But god damn I at least didn't have to think about money every second of every day, wondering if I'll be able to make ends meet for that month. I lived how I wanted to and never worried about getting shot up by some fat incel while shopping at Carrefour. Which lifestyle is more free, exactly?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Had two gfs during the time I was there and hooked up with about 13 girls.

      But how many of them did you creampie?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        all of them but in the butthole (they were trans)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Just my second gf since she was on the pill. I did paint quite a few of their faces, though.

        >I didn't love Taiwan - if I'm being honest, it really got on my nerves after awhile.
        How did it get on your nerves?

        Everything is constantly crowded, culture is very materialistic, hate the lack of transparency and honesty at work and inability to confront problems as they come, terrible traffic, monotonous food, horrible weather, everyone is insanely hypocondriacal and superstitious, the education system is a machine designed to suck out children's souls, honestly kind of a soul-sucking culture overall. I'm being a bit overdramatic, but it just was not my place; it's a good place, but it's not a place where I could personally see myself settling down for a long period of time, nor starting a family and having kids. Not to mention the tensions with China making things increasingly spoopy. I'm give them a big jiayou, but I'm not interested in being involved in that conflict personally thank you very much.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn't love Taiwan - if I'm being honest, it really got on my nerves after awhile.
      How did it get on your nerves?

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    White males that leave America because of "muh degeneracy" are part of the problem.

    White women don't come out from nowhere. They come from society that white men built, values that white men created, white communities and raised by white dads. If you blame white women for being degenerate, you're at LEAST 50% of the problem-- and you're spreading those values to other races.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How compelling. I'm still going to Asia to find a wife that can cook, clean,and frick me.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

        "Why is my dad so weird? He looks nothing like me."

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Was your picture supposed to say that those kids don’t have features of their dad? They clearly do look like both their mother and father

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They'd be so good-looking if they didn't have their mom's genes fricking them up

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >7 kids
          Only a israeli person would think that this would make someone not want to go to asia. Lmfao.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don’t care. I’m not here to rebuild a civilization hellbent on becoming shittier by the hour

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't support giving women the right to vote.
      I didn't support women joining the workplace.
      I didn't support women killing their babies.
      I didn't support women having legal autonomy.
      I didn't support women seeking a no-fault divorce.
      I didn't support women acquiring bank loans or credit without their husband.

      I do not support women's rights, and I never agreed to anything that happened in the past. This was not my fault. This was not my doing. I had and have no control over what is happening. I will not claim responsibility for the actions of weak men in the past, nor will I claim responsibility for the tribe subverting my people. The USA is a sinking ship, and I was not the one who caused it.

      I will collect everything that I can from it's rotting corpse, and hope that I can find peace before I am too old and frail to protect myself, let alone feed myself.

      >you're at least 50% of the problem
      Go frick yourself, kindly.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Unfathomably based. Pillage what you can and try to live peacefully somewhere that you're not hated. Sometimes it feels like being second-class in Japan is better than what the US is doing. At least in Japan you'd expect different behavior on the grounds of being foreign.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The israeliteSA hates you whereas japan tolerates you. It’s like the difference between a kid in highschool being mercillesly bullied vs just being left alone.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nice try, Moshe, but no.
      >White males that leave America because of "muh degeneracy" are part of the problem
      First, one cannot have responsibility with authority. Second one *definitely* can't be a part of the problem if they remove themselves from it entirely. Third, we are in no way obligated to try to save the sinking ship that is America from itself.
      >They come from society that white men built
      I am so done even humoring the idea that we're living in a world that's by white men, for white men, where white men hold the power. Less than 1% of us have 99% of the wealth and power, and let's be honest, most of that 1% is actually israeli.
      >values that white men created
      There are no values anymore, that's the problem.
      >white communities
      Miscegenated communities, you mean.
      >raised by white dads
      Our society is brutally misandric and gives women financial incentives to divorce their husbands. The child whose relationship with their father is uncompromised is the exception, not the rule. This is by design.
      >you're at LEAST 50% of the problem
      Are women our equals, capable and free to make their own choices? Or are they helpless simpletons who need male guidance and subjugation to save themselves from themselves. Please pick one, already.

      How compelling. I'm still going to Asia to find a wife that can cook, clean,and frick me.

      Way ahead of you, can personally recommend Iloilo City.

      https://i.imgur.com/Jg9JW2A.jpg

      Yes.

      "Why is my dad so weird? He looks nothing like me."

      I'm sorry, your words imply this was supposed to be a dunk, but you posted an absolute CHAD surrounded by his wife and (7!) kids who love him.

      Don’t care. I’m not here to rebuild a civilization hellbent on becoming shittier by the hour

      This.

      I didn't support giving women the right to vote.
      I didn't support women joining the workplace.
      I didn't support women killing their babies.
      I didn't support women having legal autonomy.
      I didn't support women seeking a no-fault divorce.
      I didn't support women acquiring bank loans or credit without their husband.

      I do not support women's rights, and I never agreed to anything that happened in the past. This was not my fault. This was not my doing. I had and have no control over what is happening. I will not claim responsibility for the actions of weak men in the past, nor will I claim responsibility for the tribe subverting my people. The USA is a sinking ship, and I was not the one who caused it.

      I will collect everything that I can from it's rotting corpse, and hope that I can find peace before I am too old and frail to protect myself, let alone feed myself.

      >you're at least 50% of the problem
      Go frick yourself, kindly.

      This. Imagine a society that tells 18 year old white men that they're the cause of everything wrong with the world. The absolute state of the west.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We all know that western civilization isn't run by and for white men anymore, and hasn't been for at least 70 years, chang.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >implies that white women are scum only because men are escaping their scummery
      Makes no sense, typical israelitepost. You’re saying that the effect is the cause.

      You’re not entitled to me staying here, chaim.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to commend certain individuals for following the rules. Without rules, we'd just be lawless subhumans like certain people in certain places.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why Asia in particular?
    Cause the rest of the planet is objectively covered in such shit that there can't be a debate, while Asia has women that are attractive by European standards, and a couple civilized countries (Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, Singapore)
    >why so controversial?
    Cause many white people that go there are a very specific type, that couldn't cut it in the west and decided to settle for a miserable temporary third world existence on a lowered difficulty setting, where they will never truly be part of their society. If you're going there for business or on a short vacation, there's nothing controversial about it.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    god what a shit thread

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's screeching jealous fat western women and butthurt asian manlets

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