I'm not a weeb but it's just an appealing country for obvious reasons. I don't know that I'd want to move there but I did recently find out that with my education/career I could get a job there and qualify for permanent residency after only 1 year so I'm considering that...
Not an expert but with PR you can live and work there indefinitely but you don't get the rights of citizenship like passport, voting, probably other shit. The only reason I'd really even want citizenship is for the passport but they don't allow dual citizenship anyway so i'd have to revoke my US citizenship to do that
same as all other children born to haafus in Japan
at age 20, the child is given an ultimatum to choose to be a Japanese citzen (revoking all other citizenships, passports etc) or to leave and become a foreigner.
What happens to children born to two permanent non citizen residents?
same as all other children born to haafus in Japan
at age 20, the child is given an ultimatum to choose to be a Japanese citzen (revoking all other citizenships, passports etc) or to leave and become a foreigner.
I heard you don't actually have to do it - you just declare to Japan that you will then just never do it. They don't check.
I have a PhD in engineering, years of experience in a research field, and some other shit that would get me points. It goes by points. If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
Maybe. I'm not exactly sure what I would make in Japan. If I worked for a major electronics company like SONY or Motorola or something I'd guess the pay would be good. To be honest I'd probably just do it for the year to get PR and then quit and get a remote job with a US employer again but continue living in Japan
+ u are white
I am white. How much will that matter to the nips?
I have a PhD in engineering, years of experience in a research field, and some other shit that would get me points. It goes by points. If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
Thinking about applying for a research job with JAXA. It's their version of NASA
https://global.jaxa.jp/about/employ/index.html
I have a PhD in engineering, years of experience in a research field, and some other shit that would get me points. It goes by points. If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
you wouldnt get it
cuz why the frick would some company go out of their way to hire some foreigner, spend years training him so his japanese is useful, invest in sponsoring his PR etc when they can just hire a fresh japanese college graduate with the same qualifications instead?
the only fields you can really get work in as a foreign are >teaching english >running your own business (99% of the time a bar or hostel) >very very niche marketing/sales jobs in large multi-national megacorporations that will pay & treat you like a typical japanese salarycuck
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is hilarious because only unskilled morons think this way. They'd hire him because he has skills they need, are you really fricking comparing a PhD with years of experience to some twerp who just finished Todai?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's obviously a butthurt eikaiwa who couldn't get his visa renewed or his context expired and he had to go back home to his shitty hick town. I'd be mad too.
[...] >This isn't true, they do not ask for proof that you gave up your passport. You just have to indicate on the forms that you have or that you intend to do so.
Thanks. This is what I wanted to know. How do you know this actually?
You can Google around to confirm it. I know several people who naturalized and hold dual passports, they were never asked for evidence beyond questions on the form and once during the interview. They don't require actual proof unless they think you're lying or you get flagged by immigration for some reason (like missing a entry/exit stamp).
2 years ago
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Why do you think this guy got his revoked then? He shows his voided US passport in the video
I recommend watching this video as well
>or you get flagged by immigration for some reason (like missing a entry/exit stamp)
Do they just care about entry/exit stamps for entering/exiting Japan? If I flew back to US I'd have to use my US passport to enter the US, then when I'd go back to Japan they wouldn't see any US stamp in my Jap passport...
2 years ago
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Because he went full moron and played it by the book. I'm familiar with his channel. He comes off as honest. I don't think he intends to ever leave Japan and didn't feel a need to keep his US passport. Probably doesn't want to risk getting caught. I personally would not have surrendered my US passport but that's what you're supposed to do and that's why I think he did it. If I were to try to naturalize (which I don't think I will) I wouldn't surrender my passport.
2 years ago
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>which I don't think I will
why not?
2 years ago
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Not him, but PR is enough for all intents and purposes. Japanese citizenship only gives you the right to vote.
2 years ago
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This is a cope. check any job posting board for international jobs.
Keep in mind that if you're outside of the country continuously for 5 years, you'll lose the PR.
If you can qualify for HSP, go for it. I got 5 year residency, and can get PR after 1 year. However, you also need someone to vouch for you for the PR application. I think that can be anyone though who has a PR, or is a Japanese national.
is a few days every 5 years enough to keep it going?
>If you can qualify for HSP, go for it. I got 5 year residency, and can get PR after 1 year.
How bad is the process of doing this for someone who doesn't speak Japanese? Assuming I have a good job offer lined up
2 years ago
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It's 180 days a year or you lose PR.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO KNOW JAPANESE TO GET PR. YOU DO NOT NEED TO KNOW JAPANESE TO GET CITIZENSHIP.
Not sure if just visiting for a couple of days is enough, or you need an actual address in Japan.
You don't need to know Japanese at all. If a company will sponsor your visa, their department or a consultant will do the entire process. Look up at the point system for HSP visa. If you have over 80 at the time of application, you're good to go.
that's a complicated question, but the simple answer is that i wanted a career as a researcher. i don't work in academia, but i wouldn't mind doing that some day
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I heard you don't actually have to do it - you just declare to Japan that you will then just never do it. They don't check.
you mean i can just tell Japan that I gave up my US citizenship and they'll never check if i actually did?
Interesting. So you just have to get your passport while in japan? and never let them see your US passport? I don't see how they would ever find it unless they searched my bag or something. It would be great to have both passports. I wonder how hard it would be to roll PR into citizenship, and if it would pass on to children. Gotta look into this now.
2 years ago
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Seems like you'd need to live in Japan for 5 years consecutively to naturalize
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not "never let them see", they don't give a frick. I'm just saying don't make it super obvious.
2 years ago
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They don't care? I always thought japan was a very "rules" oriented society
2 years ago
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Literally just Google it. People been doing it for ages. No one cares.
2 years ago
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I believe you. It's just surprising to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Interesting. So you just have to get your passport while in japan? and never let them see your US passport? I don't see how they would ever find it unless they searched my bag or something. It would be great to have both passports. I wonder how hard it would be to roll PR into citizenship, and if it would pass on to children. Gotta look into this now.
That anon is mistaken. The reddit threads he linked are for half-Japanese who basically can get away with lying since they START with both and then are softly asked to pick one citizenship at age 22. There is no formal way for them to check or contact these people (though they have recently been trying to catch these people at the border by asking people who look hafu if they have another passport).
If you’re naturalizing on the other hand you will have a bunch of interviews and they will require proof that you renounced your other citizenship.
2 years ago
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I recommend watching this video as well
2 years ago
Anonymous
I recommend watching this video as well
Interesting, thanks. I guess I'd have to settle for just having japanese PR which would still be nice, but not as good as having a 2nd passport.
I have a PhD in engineering, years of experience in a research field, and some other shit that would get me points. It goes by points. If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
>engineering phd >years of experience
Assuming he speaks even basic nip his odds are pretty good
i'm one and i can tell you finding an engineering job in Asia isn't the easiest endeavor. You really need to speak the language, know some people... It's ironically harder for us to find a legit position compared to a TEFLer who just has to buy the plane ticket to get a job there
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol you're either appallingly qualified or a fricking moron, I got a job offer at Rakuten within weeks of applying. You know there's a labor shortage in Japan right?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you have JLPT N1 or N2? These jobs are only for japanese speakers but what if if I'm between 3-5?
2 years ago
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I had 0 Japanese, I got to n4 level whilst living there. Lots of the decent IT jobs are in English.
2 years ago
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Where were you applying? LikedIn?
2 years ago
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It's pretty much a rite of passage for programmers in Japan to be hired by Rakuten and leave in a year
I don't speak any but i've found lots of job postings online where you don't have to.
> If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
fellow phd in engineering chad here, can you give me a source on that ? This is *extremely* interesting.
Also, you could check Taiwan's Gold Card visa program. They have an interesting deal when it comes to our profile
Just do a google search. I'm not sure if I'd want to go the Taiwan route, but interesting.
i'm one and i can tell you finding an engineering job in Asia isn't the easiest endeavor. You really need to speak the language, know some people... It's ironically harder for us to find a legit position compared to a TEFLer who just has to buy the plane ticket to get a job there
Job postings online seem very promising, but I guess I won't know how easy it is go get one until I apply. My resume is very nice though
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you wouldnt get it
cuz why the frick would some company go out of their way to hire some foreigner, spend years training him so his japanese is useful, invest in sponsoring his PR etc when they can just hire a fresh japanese college graduate with the same qualifications instead?
the only fields you can really get work in as a foreign are >teaching english >running your own business (99% of the time a bar or hostel) >very very niche marketing/sales jobs in large multi-national megacorporations that will pay & treat you like a typical japanese salarycuck
You don't need Japanese for these jobs, and the job postings are specifically geared towards foreigners. It's not like applying to the same position that a typical nip salaryman applies to.
>less crime
the existence of crime may be less than other countries
but it is probably in reference to civilians being victims of random crime is less than other countries
Trains are on time
Trains aren't full of crazy homeless people
Trains aren't covered in puke and piss everywhere
Long distance train travel isn't a huge pain
Train stations aren't used as toilets by homeless people
Homeless people don't constantly ask you for change in the train stations
Big cities don't look like garbage heaps
Air conditioning is actually a thing
The nature is pretty nice I guess
No idea about other countries but where I live cars are almost unusable outside of rural areas, just finding a parking spot takes longer than taking the train, even if it's late as usual.
>shibuya meltdown
People passing out drunk after work and not getting robbed or brutally murdered is quite unusual
Sure their work culture is shit but the country is definitely safer than most of western europe
>Look up shibuya meltdown or konbini confessions.
I won't be looking up shit. If I have to look up some esoteric texts about how bad it is-instead of seeing it visually while walking around-there's not way it's that bad.
Actualy I just went and pulled up Shibuya meltdown. The fact that Japanese people can get drunk and take a nap in their city so commonly is amazing.
Seriously, half the pics on that instagram are a drunk Japanese person getting helped by police or their fellow Japanese. oooo omg Japanese people get drunk!!!!
Try taking a drunk nap in a US downtown with 800k+ population. You'll get robbed by nigs
This. Japan is completely overrated and not even worth visiting for more than a weekend if you don’t speak and understand the language..
But if they want to hop on a 11 hour flight and blow 5K for a STD from a Jap prostitute then it’s on them.
I'm not a chad, but a tall white guy and I didn't have enough time to get all the pussy I could have while I was there. Best I did was three different women in one day. Good times.
Often, foreigners who complain about moving to Japan are simply describing the pain of being alone in a foreign country.
If you have the time, money and friends to enjoy leisure, Japan can be quite attractive.
In addition to traditional Japanese culture, Japan also has beautiful tropical seas, beautiful plateaus and majestic mountains reminiscent of Switzerland, and vast expanses of land in Hokkaido reminiscent of North America.
>in the 90s and 00s
cheap cost of living
japanese women
cheap restaurants and bars
close to SEA
good, easy, high paying jobs
jobs gave foreigners 3-4 months off a year
legal magic mushrooms
was basically like living in the 80s again
>in the 10s and 20s
their favourite streamer/youtuber lives there now so they want to go there and humblebrag on their insta xD
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pay is dogshit
time off is gone
every gaijin company is 80% Filipino now
Japs are too used to foreigners
Jap women have become jaded thanks to dudes just using them for sex in the 90s and 00s
chinese/korean tourists EVERYWHERE
t.lived there for 12 years during the 00s and 10s
the best years of japan are behind it now.
everywhere is fricking chinks and flips
chinks creampie the cute japanese girls .. its over bros. changs are master race now, they will own everything. must be nice living as a white guy in japan during the 90s and 00s and getting free japanese creampies
english teachers
in 2014 or so the Jap govt opened up Educator's visas to the Phillipines provided the people applying can prove that they at least did 50% of their highschool lessons in English
i saw my company go from 90% Anglo Americans & Aussies to 80% Flips in the space of 4 or 5 years
its ruined the English teaching industry completely in Japan, as the flips will work twice the hours than you for half your pay, cuz their exchange rate from Yen back to Flip Pesos converts so well that they can support their entire extended family back home
english teachers
in 2014 or so the Jap govt opened up Educator's visas to the Phillipines provided the people applying can prove that they at least did 50% of their highschool lessons in English
i saw my company go from 90% Anglo Americans & Aussies to 80% Flips in the space of 4 or 5 years
its ruined the English teaching industry completely in Japan, as the flips will work twice the hours than you for half your pay, cuz their exchange rate from Yen back to Flip Pesos converts so well that they can support their entire extended family back home
Have these people ever heard a flip "speak" English? They can't. What an embarrassment.
They speak it, just with an accent that I don't find too pleasing. Regardless if you had to choose between paying pennies for a flip English teacher or tens of dollars for the white piggu English teacher which one would you choose? Most English companies in Asia (not even just Japan anymore) are going with flips. The ESL industry in Asia is going to shit.
Also the flips get most of the 1% qt nips. They have this sort of magnet and aura on the nip girls that is similar to us white people in SEA but without the money.
>Also the flips get most of the 1% qt nips.
LOL no
thing with flips is they 100% only ever hang with their own kind, speak their own language and do their weird cult shit in their freaky obscure churches.
worst part about them in Japan is they go to extreme lengths to try and rope you into going to their god hut.
they dont drink
they dont party
they're awkward and dont know how to socialize somehow worse than japanese
they dont do anything except work overtime for no reason (all the other ALTs frick off home at 2pm) and send their money back home to provide for their families living back in their shithole
>Korea is like ... but the language is easier
Oh, I don't know about that. I think the "ease" of Hangul alphabet is offset by the complexity of honorifics and pronunciation exceptions.
Korea has more/better dramas, but Japan is much better for animation.
Music - is there anything like Moe Shop or Snail's House in Korea?
Apart from being a fricking weeb, it's just an interesting place. >progressed from the medieval ages in like fifty years >got nuked twice >became an immensely powerful nation after >home to the largest city in the world
The list goes on. It's pretty neat. Not to say that other nations aren't.
The first thing was anime, diffrent style of stories, diffrent mentality(like crazy commercial).
It was 15 years ago. Today its because i know how racist and nationalist mindset you have and i love it.
Personally, I felt like I fit in more with the quiet and reserved culture, but I also know that I would always be an outsider there.
I'm also very fond of the country side, and how accessible the whole country is. I always had a nice time with how easy it was to walk everywhere, and that I didn't feel like I needed a car.
>quiet and reserved culture >how accessible the whole country is >how easy it was to walk everywhere, and that I didn't feel like I needed a car.
It's pretty much this.
I'm not a Japan weeb nor am I truly interested in moving to or even really visiting Japan. However, these aspects of the country are very friendly for human inhabitation & development; I can say with certainty that this makes Japan superior to the US, which is a homosexual scam.
Japan is currently closed to gaijin, but thankfully, there are a few similarly quiet and reserved, walkable countries around the world.
The public transportation and lack of cars is the one thing I dislike about japan actually. Public transportation is disgusting and the freedom and privacy that comes with having your own personal vehicle cannot be understated.
>the country is built around public transportation, the roads are too narrow and poorly planned and you can't even go over 40mph
Learn to drive moron
Also nobody in the countryside obeys the speed limit
It's not for me, but I can see the appeal. When I was a wagie in London, life was: >Work stupid hours >Long commute time >Commute on a massively overcrowded train with people pressed up against each other >Live in a shitty little box >Spend your life in the office
Seems like Japan is the same thing except >Don't have to worry about random stabbings and acid attacks >Don't have to worry about being mugged >Can have nice things without them being stolen or destroyed >People in general are more polite, respectful and friendly >Cleaner, better looking cities >Functioning transport, don't have to get stuck on the train for several more hours as a sardine every month because something broke again
Compared to where? US? Yes but almost any functional country has better public transport than the US. Even fricking Mexico and Canada have better public transit than the US.
Someone needs to creampie your women, and you don't seem to be doing a very good job of it. I'm 6'4", white, and handsome, I'm doing you a favor.
You are excused. Exit the thread now.
One underappreciated factor is that as long as you can communicate somehow, you're more exotic than a million other Taro Tanakas on the street, automatically making you at least a bit interesting.
Spent a period on exchange in my youth, probably going to return as I enter my thirties. I fell in love with the countryside there, the cities aren't for me but I can tolerate spending time in them. At the moment the plan is to finish the N1, then take my degree and either pick up a liaison job in a 2nd tier city (where fellow foreigners almost never want to go because not muh Tokyo or Osaka) or failing that, sell my soul to the TESL gods and pick up a job at a rural school (where almost no foreigners want to go, hence a desperation to actually fill job slots there). Pay is going to be shit for the latter one, but provided I can survive I don't mind, need a change and the ability to pop over to Micronesian countries or maybe visit the Norkies one day would be a huge plus.
All I want to do is avoid Tokyo like the plague, been there before and it is a special hell to small town me.
>seriously, you guys why is everyone fleeing the west? >is it the unaffordable cost of living and complete erosion of social cohesion? >...are you sure? Nope. That doesn't add up.
Foreign but not backwards in the sense that bothers westerners (it is backwards in some regards but tolerable), not a shithole, lots of autistic shit that interests a wide variety of people, good living standards.
Its funny, they still have a ton of cache with expats. I'm willing to bet they could attract a shitload of headquarters if it was easy for firms to bring in expat workers. As it stands it seems a lot of firms just have local headquarters for the purpose of doing business within Japan rather than a global/regional headquarters
>Its funny, they still have a ton of cache with expats. I'm willing to bet they could attract a shitload of headquarters if it was easy for firms to bring in expat workers.
Even if the visas were easier, the work culture requiring Japanese
Expecting a westerner to not only train up in a technical STEM skill + learn Japanese is honestly a rare combo, especially since we start learning languages so late in the US
idk about others but for me, it's like this >imagine you grew up in rural hokkaido, all you know is snow and deer and hills >watch tv every day, see city of lights, LA, every kind of person, food, life style, career you want, it's there >Realise it's the opposite of your current life >Become curious >Remain curious long enough to earn enough money to find out if it's really how it appears on TV
In my case my company sent me to Japan for a year. It was the best time of my life by far. That's now 8 years ago and no day passed of dreaming of moving there again. The daily summer nightwalks, the good food, the respectful smiling people, the punctual trains, everything so clean, the beautiful nature, mountains, snowboarding, ramen, fresh seafood and fish, the nightlife, the girls. And that endless city Tokyo where no day ever gets boring. There is always something to see, to discover or just to randomly walk around.
Meanwhile I live in Germany close to a city that's more a big village. People are rude and dumb, it's getting more dirty every year, trains and infrastructure are broken, food is gross and bland, girls are huge and masculine, "nature" is all artificial, nightwalks are always a risk of being mugged, weather is shit and it's god damn boring BORING. If I wouldn't be here to take care of my parents, I would go back to glory nippon at any second.
Germany is pretty fricking depressing, sure it's not horrible or anything, but there are just too few actually nice things.
Everywhere is littered with trash, half of any given city is covered in shitty graffiti and everything within a 10km radius of a train station smells like piss.
I'm a hikinggay. Japan is a paradise for hiking. Especially as you can access a lot of trails from the city just by hoping in the next train. I'm also a weeb, so why the frick not.
>low crime >excellent services >top-class transportation >beautiful and accessible natures >dont even need to learn japs because everyone here is autistic and just want to be left alone
only thing i hate is the food, its the same everywhere i go, theres no real local delicacy. ramen here, sushi there, udon this, takoyaki that. you get tired of it if you live here long enough
i want to live somewhere affordable with low crime rates and good public transportation, literally nowhere in america fits that criteria whereas every japanese city does, makes the choice pretty easy for me. on top of that i've always liked japanese entertainment so its just a bonus
Tokyo is one of the least affordable cities on earth. Their tiny apartments keep the costs of an apartment "low" but you can get more sqft for your buck in almost any other major city
>This isn't true, they do not ask for proof that you gave up your passport. You just have to indicate on the forms that you have or that you intend to do so.
Thanks. This is what I wanted to know. How do you know this actually?
People romanize a country/region all the time, it isn't that rare. Sure Japan tends to get the weebs because it is the land of Anime and tech, but other places get it too: >S. Korea gets the K-pop "stans" (whatever the frick that means) who are obsessed with BTK or whatever >Canada gets American lefties who believe that their healthcare system includes everything from prescription drugs to recreational weed (it does not) >NYC/LA get rural people who dreamed about "the big city" >Rural wyoming gets city folks who dreamed about "life on the range" or whatever. >The south gets wannabe southerners who think that having a confederate flag on their Prius makes them a rebel >France gets Somalis
It is not really that rare for people to fantasize about living in another place, or even another country
>Why so many gaijin want to move here?
it's basically heaven on earth
no crime, idyllic cities with clean streets and beautiful natural environs, delicious fresh food available at every street corner, compliant and obedient asian women who are down to smash, etc
>no crime, idyllic cities with clean streets and beautiful natural environs, delicious fresh food available at every street corner, compliant and obedient asian women who are down to smash, etc
Hyperbole much, weebo? There are many beautiful areas in Japan, but definitely not even coming close to the US. The cities, while generally clean and crime-free, are ugly as frick and whatever “culture” that exists is totally consumer-driven. Outside of the major and minor provincial cities, the small towns are near third-world level and boring as frick. As far as chicks, sure that’s easy, but so fricking what. The only people who think as you have never really traveled around the country. Ny8wk
>cities, while generally clean and crime-free
more important to me than trashy disgusting dirty dangerous cities and the ""culture"" that comes with it
>delicious fresh food available at every street corner
the food that's available on "every street corner" in Japan is noodles, deep fried crap, or packaged onigiri. so fresh and delicious, folded 1000 times
I can somewhat understand someone like pewdiepie who is rich and can easily afford living in Japan and doesn't have to engage with the society to a degree if he doesn't want to. But for commoners who will have to work there it would be hell.
Goddamn reading this shit makes me feel like I have such a big wiener
>Military contractor >Live in Japan as long as I want, don't need to apply for a visa >Do piss easy IT work >Access to American bases and all the products and services within >Live in downtown Tokyo in a big apartment completely paid for by the government >Make 80k a year >Work with Americans and American work culture (aka no 80 hour overtime workweeks and asked to come in on weekend japanese bullshit) >Have been able to come and go between the US and Japan freely throughout all of the ""lockdown"" >Easy access to Jap girls that will frick you just for taking them to the chili's on base
Dude just work for the US government. Go to USAjobs or clearance jobs and get hired to work here. I can't believe nobody has suggested that
>I can't believe nobody has suggested that
Those jobs are extremely competitive and hard to get. On the USAjobs side of that, career feds often take PAYCUTS to get into overseas positions. That's what folks will be competing with.
>flushing flat pieces of biodegradable paper: no you will clog the pipes >flushing your fatty regurgitated 800g mctriple cheese with ultra bacon with titanolarge fries and that mcsundae from 3 days ago: okay
somebody explain this bullshit
I’ve lived in China (I’ve lived in a decent hotel for 5 years) and their plumbery is so shit that it may clog the toilet.
However I always flushed the toilet because I don’t give a frick and the hotel is decent.
Public toilets in China are fricking disgusting because the bin is full of paper covered in shit. Frick.
really frickin ironic for all the people that blame immigrants for ruining their city while wanting to move to japan, contributing to the decline of "exotic japanese culture"
I'm sick of the diversity >but you going to japan is the same thing
if I lived in a homogeneous nation and it was only japs moving here I would be thrilled
I'd like to go hiking in Hokkaido, maybe visit the Sapporo brewery while I'm there. I don't wanna move to Japan just visit some spots. I'm interested in the landscapes and food.
I can understand the allure of living in Japan for a while. Moving there permanently feels like a different story. The more I learn about Japan over time the more I realize it's just too closed off as a society for outsiders, you can't be apart of it and you will always be the token gaijin, and even your haafu kids will be considered weird at school. Japan does have tons of cool shit but most of it is not worth moving there permanently for. The only real thing you miss out on is easy access to Japanese food imho
For an American like me I get why Japan feels like an upgrade. For a Euro it's not so clear.
whats up with the social media tier polarization? it's not heaven on earth and a weebs dream come true but it isn't a shitty soulless hellscape full of bug people who work 20 hours a day or whatever either
There are three groups of people usually involved in discussions about japan on any english speaking website.
1. People who have never been there and build up some idealized fantasy version of it in their head, often because they dislike their own country.
2. People who have never been there and use every scrap of negative news about Japan to paint the country as some sort of dystopia, no matter how much they have to cherrypick to ignore the positive aspects.
3. Unsuccessful expates, often english teachers, who feel alienated due to not knowing the language and have little upwards mobility, thus often feeling bitter and blaming the country itself for their problems.
People who have no interest in Japan obviously don't care either way and people who life their and are successful have less reason to weigh in on the matter, so like every discussion online only these with fairly extreme opinions actually engage with it.
> Why so many gaijin want to move here?
So as to enjoy fat Japanese chicks who (hopefully) do not yet have a western entitlement complex. So, pretty much, unless that's your thing, I won't be stepping on your toes much.
We’re weebs
I'm not a weeb but it's just an appealing country for obvious reasons. I don't know that I'd want to move there but I did recently find out that with my education/career I could get a job there and qualify for permanent residency after only 1 year so I'm considering that...
What are the differences between permanent residency and citizenship?
Not an expert but with PR you can live and work there indefinitely but you don't get the rights of citizenship like passport, voting, probably other shit. The only reason I'd really even want citizenship is for the passport but they don't allow dual citizenship anyway so i'd have to revoke my US citizenship to do that
What happens to children born to two permanent non citizen residents?
same as all other children born to haafus in Japan
at age 20, the child is given an ultimatum to choose to be a Japanese citzen (revoking all other citizenships, passports etc) or to leave and become a foreigner.
I heard you don't actually have to do it - you just declare to Japan that you will then just never do it. They don't check.
what job do u have
I have a PhD in engineering, years of experience in a research field, and some other shit that would get me points. It goes by points. If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
You could make twice as much money with your qualifications in the US than in Japan.
Maybe. I'm not exactly sure what I would make in Japan. If I worked for a major electronics company like SONY or Motorola or something I'd guess the pay would be good. To be honest I'd probably just do it for the year to get PR and then quit and get a remote job with a US employer again but continue living in Japan
I am white. How much will that matter to the nips?
Thinking about applying for a research job with JAXA. It's their version of NASA
https://global.jaxa.jp/about/employ/index.html
you wouldnt get it
cuz why the frick would some company go out of their way to hire some foreigner, spend years training him so his japanese is useful, invest in sponsoring his PR etc when they can just hire a fresh japanese college graduate with the same qualifications instead?
the only fields you can really get work in as a foreign are
>teaching english
>running your own business (99% of the time a bar or hostel)
>very very niche marketing/sales jobs in large multi-national megacorporations that will pay & treat you like a typical japanese salarycuck
This is hilarious because only unskilled morons think this way. They'd hire him because he has skills they need, are you really fricking comparing a PhD with years of experience to some twerp who just finished Todai?
He's obviously a butthurt eikaiwa who couldn't get his visa renewed or his context expired and he had to go back home to his shitty hick town. I'd be mad too.
You can Google around to confirm it. I know several people who naturalized and hold dual passports, they were never asked for evidence beyond questions on the form and once during the interview. They don't require actual proof unless they think you're lying or you get flagged by immigration for some reason (like missing a entry/exit stamp).
Why do you think this guy got his revoked then? He shows his voided US passport in the video
>or you get flagged by immigration for some reason (like missing a entry/exit stamp)
Do they just care about entry/exit stamps for entering/exiting Japan? If I flew back to US I'd have to use my US passport to enter the US, then when I'd go back to Japan they wouldn't see any US stamp in my Jap passport...
Because he went full moron and played it by the book. I'm familiar with his channel. He comes off as honest. I don't think he intends to ever leave Japan and didn't feel a need to keep his US passport. Probably doesn't want to risk getting caught. I personally would not have surrendered my US passport but that's what you're supposed to do and that's why I think he did it. If I were to try to naturalize (which I don't think I will) I wouldn't surrender my passport.
>which I don't think I will
why not?
Not him, but PR is enough for all intents and purposes. Japanese citizenship only gives you the right to vote.
This is a cope. check any job posting board for international jobs.
But he would have to live in a shithole.
He wouldn`t because he could afford living in the high class areas poorlet
I'd rather make less but live in a civilized society
+ u are white
> If you have 80 points you can qualify for PR after only 1 year. I just found out about this so don't know much but seems like a promising idea
fellow phd in engineering chad here, can you give me a source on that ? This is *extremely* interesting.
Also, you could check Taiwan's Gold Card visa program. They have an interesting deal when it comes to our profile
Perhaps try Google, specifically Japan's highly skilled foreign professional visa
Keep in mind that if you're outside of the country continuously for 5 years, you'll lose the PR.
If you can qualify for HSP, go for it. I got 5 year residency, and can get PR after 1 year. However, you also need someone to vouch for you for the PR application. I think that can be anyone though who has a PR, or is a Japanese national.
is a few days every 5 years enough to keep it going?
>If you can qualify for HSP, go for it. I got 5 year residency, and can get PR after 1 year.
How bad is the process of doing this for someone who doesn't speak Japanese? Assuming I have a good job offer lined up
It's 180 days a year or you lose PR.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO KNOW JAPANESE TO GET PR. YOU DO NOT NEED TO KNOW JAPANESE TO GET CITIZENSHIP.
Not sure if just visiting for a couple of days is enough, or you need an actual address in Japan.
You don't need to know Japanese at all. If a company will sponsor your visa, their department or a consultant will do the entire process. Look up at the point system for HSP visa. If you have over 80 at the time of application, you're good to go.
what's the point in having a PhD in engineering? serious question..
why did you frens do it? was it because you wanted to work in academia?
that's a complicated question, but the simple answer is that i wanted a career as a researcher. i don't work in academia, but i wouldn't mind doing that some day
you mean i can just tell Japan that I gave up my US citizenship and they'll never check if i actually did?
Correct. Basically don't ask don't tell. Just say yes to all the questions and never accidentally use the wrong passport.
https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/l7k0q/dualcitizenship_is_it_possible_to_keep/
https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/qfpz1s/dual_citizenship/
Interesting. So you just have to get your passport while in japan? and never let them see your US passport? I don't see how they would ever find it unless they searched my bag or something. It would be great to have both passports. I wonder how hard it would be to roll PR into citizenship, and if it would pass on to children. Gotta look into this now.
Seems like you'd need to live in Japan for 5 years consecutively to naturalize
It's not "never let them see", they don't give a frick. I'm just saying don't make it super obvious.
They don't care? I always thought japan was a very "rules" oriented society
Literally just Google it. People been doing it for ages. No one cares.
I believe you. It's just surprising to me.
That anon is mistaken. The reddit threads he linked are for half-Japanese who basically can get away with lying since they START with both and then are softly asked to pick one citizenship at age 22. There is no formal way for them to check or contact these people (though they have recently been trying to catch these people at the border by asking people who look hafu if they have another passport).
If you’re naturalizing on the other hand you will have a bunch of interviews and they will require proof that you renounced your other citizenship.
I recommend watching this video as well
Interesting, thanks. I guess I'd have to settle for just having japanese PR which would still be nice, but not as good as having a 2nd passport.
Lol this is so fricking naive it's adorable
>I have a degree so that means I can get a visa sponsorship
Again, so naive. Have fun applying my friend!
>engineering phd
>years of experience
Assuming he speaks even basic nip his odds are pretty good
You're about as clueless as he is then.
>a bit of nip
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>Engineering phd
>Difficulty finding a job
Pick one doomer
i'm one and i can tell you finding an engineering job in Asia isn't the easiest endeavor. You really need to speak the language, know some people... It's ironically harder for us to find a legit position compared to a TEFLer who just has to buy the plane ticket to get a job there
Lol you're either appallingly qualified or a fricking moron, I got a job offer at Rakuten within weeks of applying. You know there's a labor shortage in Japan right?
Do you have JLPT N1 or N2? These jobs are only for japanese speakers but what if if I'm between 3-5?
I had 0 Japanese, I got to n4 level whilst living there. Lots of the decent IT jobs are in English.
Where were you applying? LikedIn?
It's pretty much a rite of passage for programmers in Japan to be hired by Rakuten and leave in a year
you might literally be moronic
I don't speak any but i've found lots of job postings online where you don't have to.
Just do a google search. I'm not sure if I'd want to go the Taiwan route, but interesting.
Job postings online seem very promising, but I guess I won't know how easy it is go get one until I apply. My resume is very nice though
You don't need Japanese for these jobs, and the job postings are specifically geared towards foreigners. It's not like applying to the same position that a typical nip salaryman applies to.
Some examples. Also see jaxa links I posted earlier
https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/Careers/japan/RDC_M_Full2105/
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/senior-research-scientist-computer-vision-at-sonyai-2661219069/?utm_campaign=google_jobs_apply&utm_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic&originalSubdomain=jp
https://careers.google.com/jobs/results/103839864404746950-research-software-engineer-machine-learning/
To bully beta males
tranime
I want to replace aging JAV stars with my Gaijin penisooru
There is a big shortage of male porn performers in Japan.
> nice food
> less crime
> historical culture
> cute girls
> fantastic work culture
>less crime
>fantastic work culture
Kek my sides
>less crime
the existence of crime may be less than other countries
but it is probably in reference to civilians being victims of random crime is less than other countries
>fantastic work culture
Hahaha haha
Who told you this ?
> fantastic work culture
If you're a fricking drone, that is
Trains are on time
Trains aren't full of crazy homeless people
Trains aren't covered in puke and piss everywhere
Long distance train travel isn't a huge pain
Train stations aren't used as toilets by homeless people
Homeless people don't constantly ask you for change in the train stations
Big cities don't look like garbage heaps
Air conditioning is actually a thing
The nature is pretty nice I guess
Your answer lies in this post-
6/9 points are all train related. That should give you an insight into the kind of people that fetishize Nipland.
Trains are based.
Trains not being shit is pretty fricking nice if you have to rely on them.
just don't be poor and buy a fricking car lmfao
No idea about other countries but where I live cars are almost unusable outside of rural areas, just finding a parking spot takes longer than taking the train, even if it's late as usual.
>he fell for the "muh japan is clean and safe" meme
Look up shibuya meltdown or konbini confessions.
>shibuya meltdown
People passing out drunk after work and not getting robbed or brutally murdered is quite unusual
Sure their work culture is shit but the country is definitely safer than most of western europe
>Look up shibuya meltdown or konbini confessions.
I won't be looking up shit. If I have to look up some esoteric texts about how bad it is-instead of seeing it visually while walking around-there's not way it's that bad.
Actualy I just went and pulled up Shibuya meltdown. The fact that Japanese people can get drunk and take a nap in their city so commonly is amazing.
Seriously, half the pics on that instagram are a drunk Japanese person getting helped by police or their fellow Japanese. oooo omg Japanese people get drunk!!!!
Try taking a drunk nap in a US downtown with 800k+ population. You'll get robbed by nigs
>I won't be looking up shit.
>Actualy I just went and pulled up Shibuya meltdown
lol
>>I won't be looking up shit.
I just went and pulled up Shibuya meltdown
>lol
ya I intentionally wrote authored it that way for comedic effect.
Was anything wrong about my statements? shibuya meltdown is a testament to the safety of japan
I dunno, Rambalac's youtube channel shows a pretty nice japan
just drive a car you pussy
I love trains too.
I feel very sorry for neurotypicals who can't derive pleasure and occupy their free time with an affordable hobby such as trains
because 90% of the site is incels and they all think that they'll get poon if they asia maxx. Spoiler: they won't. Only chad gets poon
I'm not chad. I got laid in America, and even more pussy in Asia
This. Japan is completely overrated and not even worth visiting for more than a weekend if you don’t speak and understand the language..
But if they want to hop on a 11 hour flight and blow 5K for a STD from a Jap prostitute then it’s on them.
I'm not a chad, but a tall white guy and I didn't have enough time to get all the pussy I could have while I was there. Best I did was three different women in one day. Good times.
been here for like 2 days and the food alone is already enough for me to want to stay here
Often, foreigners who complain about moving to Japan are simply describing the pain of being alone in a foreign country.
If you have the time, money and friends to enjoy leisure, Japan can be quite attractive.
In addition to traditional Japanese culture, Japan also has beautiful tropical seas, beautiful plateaus and majestic mountains reminiscent of Switzerland, and vast expanses of land in Hokkaido reminiscent of North America.
>in the 90s and 00s
cheap cost of living
japanese women
cheap restaurants and bars
close to SEA
good, easy, high paying jobs
jobs gave foreigners 3-4 months off a year
legal magic mushrooms
was basically like living in the 80s again
>in the 10s and 20s
their favourite streamer/youtuber lives there now so they want to go there and humblebrag on their insta xD
dont forget to like and subscribe
and smash that bell button!
pay is dogshit
time off is gone
every gaijin company is 80% Filipino now
Japs are too used to foreigners
Jap women have become jaded thanks to dudes just using them for sex in the 90s and 00s
chinese/korean tourists EVERYWHERE
t.lived there for 12 years during the 00s and 10s
the best years of japan are behind it now.
everywhere is fricking chinks and flips
chinks creampie the cute japanese girls .. its over bros. changs are master race now, they will own everything. must be nice living as a white guy in japan during the 90s and 00s and getting free japanese creampies
>everywhere is fricking chinks and flips
what kind of jobs flips work in Japan? english teachers? nurses?
english teachers
in 2014 or so the Jap govt opened up Educator's visas to the Phillipines provided the people applying can prove that they at least did 50% of their highschool lessons in English
i saw my company go from 90% Anglo Americans & Aussies to 80% Flips in the space of 4 or 5 years
its ruined the English teaching industry completely in Japan, as the flips will work twice the hours than you for half your pay, cuz their exchange rate from Yen back to Flip Pesos converts so well that they can support their entire extended family back home
>i saw my company go from 90% Anglo Americans & Aussies to 80% Flips in the space of 4 or 5 years
that's good, less degenerate white piggus in Japan.
I'm sure nips would rather have anglos than flips
Haha
Have these people ever heard a flip "speak" English? They can't. What an embarrassment.
They speak it, just with an accent that I don't find too pleasing. Regardless if you had to choose between paying pennies for a flip English teacher or tens of dollars for the white piggu English teacher which one would you choose? Most English companies in Asia (not even just Japan anymore) are going with flips. The ESL industry in Asia is going to shit.
>the best years of japan are behind it now.
same all over the world, i wish someone could point out exceptions
India and Slovenia
Based and Melaniapilled
i could tell you where, but then that ruins it for me because then it means more frickwits like you will come here and ruin it
homosexual, you're on SighSee. You and your posts are not that important
Also the flips get most of the 1% qt nips. They have this sort of magnet and aura on the nip girls that is similar to us white people in SEA but without the money.
>Also the flips get most of the 1% qt nips.
LOL no
thing with flips is they 100% only ever hang with their own kind, speak their own language and do their weird cult shit in their freaky obscure churches.
worst part about them in Japan is they go to extreme lengths to try and rope you into going to their god hut.
they dont drink
they dont party
they're awkward and dont know how to socialize somehow worse than japanese
they dont do anything except work overtime for no reason (all the other ALTs frick off home at 2pm) and send their money back home to provide for their families living back in their shithole
Flip manlet cope
Clean, efficient, beautiful landscape
plus baths, toilets with bidets and heated seats, and better quality food (compared to US)
>Why so many gaijin want to move here?
is weeaboo that even a thing in 2022? most zoomers are koreaboos nowadays
Korea is like a more accessible but long term worse Japan. Jobs are worse, but the language is easier
Half of Korea's history is "and then Japs arrived *again* and burnt all our stuff down "
Food is a personal preference tossup, but Kpop beats whatever jmusic tho
>Korea is like ... but the language is easier
Oh, I don't know about that. I think the "ease" of Hangul alphabet is offset by the complexity of honorifics and pronunciation exceptions.
Korea has more/better dramas, but Japan is much better for animation.
Music - is there anything like Moe Shop or Snail's House in Korea?
Apart from being a fricking weeb, it's just an interesting place.
>progressed from the medieval ages in like fifty years
>got nuked twice
>became an immensely powerful nation after
>home to the largest city in the world
The list goes on. It's pretty neat. Not to say that other nations aren't.
Weaboos
Norway would be better.
no not the skandicucks
The first thing was anime, diffrent style of stories, diffrent mentality(like crazy commercial).
It was 15 years ago. Today its because i know how racist and nationalist mindset you have and i love it.
I want to love and live in an Ethno State. Japanese were declared White not too long ago.
>Japanese were declared White not too long ago
This has to be the dumbest thing ever
they treat jomon people like shit and try to further get them extinct. white my ass
No blacks, no israelites, no arabs.
>No blacks
lol you wish.
If whites that move to Japan are libs shit California tier. Then it will become a hellhole. I expect most weebs to be of this kind. Frick America.
Culture and women
Personally, I felt like I fit in more with the quiet and reserved culture, but I also know that I would always be an outsider there.
I'm also very fond of the country side, and how accessible the whole country is. I always had a nice time with how easy it was to walk everywhere, and that I didn't feel like I needed a car.
>quiet and reserved culture
>how accessible the whole country is
>how easy it was to walk everywhere, and that I didn't feel like I needed a car.
It's pretty much this.
I'm not a Japan weeb nor am I truly interested in moving to or even really visiting Japan. However, these aspects of the country are very friendly for human inhabitation & development; I can say with certainty that this makes Japan superior to the US, which is a homosexual scam.
Japan is currently closed to gaijin, but thankfully, there are a few similarly quiet and reserved, walkable countries around the world.
>there are a few similarly quiet and reserved, walkable countries around the world.
like what?
There are a few others like the Netherlands, which has the added benefit of the majority of the population already speaking English.
The public transportation and lack of cars is the one thing I dislike about japan actually. Public transportation is disgusting and the freedom and privacy that comes with having your own personal vehicle cannot be understated.
muh drive through and drink holders
not just that but drunk salarymen, lack of personal space, no music, etc.
the country is built around public transportation, the roads are too narrow and poorly planned and you can't even go over 40mph
>the country is built around public transportation, the roads are too narrow and poorly planned and you can't even go over 40mph
Learn to drive moron
Also nobody in the countryside obeys the speed limit
I don't want a kei car though I want a raised truck
gross
Then why don't you buy one ? You know Japan has the cheapest second hand cars in the world right?
>Public transportation is disgusting
Public transportation in your first world shithole is disgusting.
Its pleasant in Japan
Classic carbrain post.
Sounds like Cairo is more your speed
Has the accommodations of a western country without the drawbacks that come with it
the american city I live in isn't safe
Then move cities
It's not for me, but I can see the appeal. When I was a wagie in London, life was:
>Work stupid hours
>Long commute time
>Commute on a massively overcrowded train with people pressed up against each other
>Live in a shitty little box
>Spend your life in the office
Seems like Japan is the same thing except
>Don't have to worry about random stabbings and acid attacks
>Don't have to worry about being mugged
>Can have nice things without them being stolen or destroyed
>People in general are more polite, respectful and friendly
>Cleaner, better looking cities
>Functioning transport, don't have to get stuck on the train for several more hours as a sardine every month because something broke again
Is the public transportation even really that good in Japan?
Inside the two big cities it is
Outside of the big cities it‘s a car reliant society just like America
Compared to where? US? Yes but almost any functional country has better public transport than the US. Even fricking Mexico and Canada have better public transit than the US.
no, Canada has dogshit public transit. TTC is ass and doesn't go anywhere. at least the transit in NYC can go to places
>Is the public transportation even really that good in Japan?
Switzerland's is among the best in Europe and it beats them by a long shot
Would never want to move there, never have, not even during my weebiest, the work life balance is awful.
I just miss visiting for the sweet Izakaya food, drinks, the weather
Someone needs to creampie your women, and you don't seem to be doing a very good job of it. I'm 6'4", white, and handsome, I'm doing you a favor.
You are excused. Exit the thread now.
because they are losers
One underappreciated factor is that as long as you can communicate somehow, you're more exotic than a million other Taro Tanakas on the street, automatically making you at least a bit interesting.
Very safe highly developed country and no Black folk or troons.
>no troons
where'd you get that idea?
This, there are fricking brothels full of troons in every Tokyo district lmfao.
Google newhfalf/otokonoko
I am sexually aroused by trains
Spent a period on exchange in my youth, probably going to return as I enter my thirties. I fell in love with the countryside there, the cities aren't for me but I can tolerate spending time in them. At the moment the plan is to finish the N1, then take my degree and either pick up a liaison job in a 2nd tier city (where fellow foreigners almost never want to go because not muh Tokyo or Osaka) or failing that, sell my soul to the TESL gods and pick up a job at a rural school (where almost no foreigners want to go, hence a desperation to actually fill job slots there). Pay is going to be shit for the latter one, but provided I can survive I don't mind, need a change and the ability to pop over to Micronesian countries or maybe visit the Norkies one day would be a huge plus.
All I want to do is avoid Tokyo like the plague, been there before and it is a special hell to small town me.
>seriously, you guys why is everyone fleeing the west?
>is it the unaffordable cost of living and complete erosion of social cohesion?
>...are you sure? Nope. That doesn't add up.
Escapism
t. lived in Kyoto for 6 months
Anglo nations are in a state of decline that will only accelerate when the market crashes this year.
Foreign but not backwards in the sense that bothers westerners (it is backwards in some regards but tolerable), not a shithole, lots of autistic shit that interests a wide variety of people, good living standards.
Its funny, they still have a ton of cache with expats. I'm willing to bet they could attract a shitload of headquarters if it was easy for firms to bring in expat workers. As it stands it seems a lot of firms just have local headquarters for the purpose of doing business within Japan rather than a global/regional headquarters
>Its funny, they still have a ton of cache with expats. I'm willing to bet they could attract a shitload of headquarters if it was easy for firms to bring in expat workers.
Even if the visas were easier, the work culture requiring Japanese
Expecting a westerner to not only train up in a technical STEM skill + learn Japanese is honestly a rare combo, especially since we start learning languages so late in the US
idk about others but for me, it's like this
>imagine you grew up in rural hokkaido, all you know is snow and deer and hills
>watch tv every day, see city of lights, LA, every kind of person, food, life style, career you want, it's there
>Realise it's the opposite of your current life
>Become curious
>Remain curious long enough to earn enough money to find out if it's really how it appears on TV
bump
In my case my company sent me to Japan for a year. It was the best time of my life by far. That's now 8 years ago and no day passed of dreaming of moving there again. The daily summer nightwalks, the good food, the respectful smiling people, the punctual trains, everything so clean, the beautiful nature, mountains, snowboarding, ramen, fresh seafood and fish, the nightlife, the girls. And that endless city Tokyo where no day ever gets boring. There is always something to see, to discover or just to randomly walk around.
Meanwhile I live in Germany close to a city that's more a big village. People are rude and dumb, it's getting more dirty every year, trains and infrastructure are broken, food is gross and bland, girls are huge and masculine, "nature" is all artificial, nightwalks are always a risk of being mugged, weather is shit and it's god damn boring BORING. If I wouldn't be here to take care of my parents, I would go back to glory nippon at any second.
Germany is pretty fricking depressing, sure it's not horrible or anything, but there are just too few actually nice things.
Everywhere is littered with trash, half of any given city is covered in shitty graffiti and everything within a 10km radius of a train station smells like piss.
>That's now 8 years ago and no day passed of dreaming of moving there again.
you realize you contradicted yourself, right?
I'm a hikinggay. Japan is a paradise for hiking. Especially as you can access a lot of trails from the city just by hoping in the next train. I'm also a weeb, so why the frick not.
>low crime
>excellent services
>top-class transportation
>beautiful and accessible natures
>dont even need to learn japs because everyone here is autistic and just want to be left alone
only thing i hate is the food, its the same everywhere i go, theres no real local delicacy. ramen here, sushi there, udon this, takoyaki that. you get tired of it if you live here long enough
Same reason settlers from EU and UK gave up everything and moved to the new world
i want to live somewhere affordable with low crime rates and good public transportation, literally nowhere in america fits that criteria whereas every japanese city does, makes the choice pretty easy for me. on top of that i've always liked japanese entertainment so its just a bonus
>japan
>affordable
Weebs really are delusional
stay poor armando
Tokyo is one of the least affordable cities on earth. Their tiny apartments keep the costs of an apartment "low" but you can get more sqft for your buck in almost any other major city
>This isn't true, they do not ask for proof that you gave up your passport. You just have to indicate on the forms that you have or that you intend to do so.
Thanks. This is what I wanted to know. How do you know this actually?
Yesterday I found out that fricking prostitutes is not considered cheating in Japan
Because it is a place unlike anything else on Earth
People romanize a country/region all the time, it isn't that rare. Sure Japan tends to get the weebs because it is the land of Anime and tech, but other places get it too:
>S. Korea gets the K-pop "stans" (whatever the frick that means) who are obsessed with BTK or whatever
>Canada gets American lefties who believe that their healthcare system includes everything from prescription drugs to recreational weed (it does not)
>NYC/LA get rural people who dreamed about "the big city"
>Rural wyoming gets city folks who dreamed about "life on the range" or whatever.
>The south gets wannabe southerners who think that having a confederate flag on their Prius makes them a rebel
>France gets Somalis
It is not really that rare for people to fantasize about living in another place, or even another country
stans is just a zoomer word for psycho groupies
it refers an eminem song
Felix did it
>Why so many gaijin want to move here?
it's basically heaven on earth
no crime, idyllic cities with clean streets and beautiful natural environs, delicious fresh food available at every street corner, compliant and obedient asian women who are down to smash, etc
>compliant and obedient asian women who are down to smash
i thought the good old days were over for whitey in japan and that now it's a lot harder
>no crime, idyllic cities with clean streets and beautiful natural environs, delicious fresh food available at every street corner, compliant and obedient asian women who are down to smash, etc
Hyperbole much, weebo? There are many beautiful areas in Japan, but definitely not even coming close to the US. The cities, while generally clean and crime-free, are ugly as frick and whatever “culture” that exists is totally consumer-driven. Outside of the major and minor provincial cities, the small towns are near third-world level and boring as frick. As far as chicks, sure that’s easy, but so fricking what. The only people who think as you have never really traveled around the country. Ny8wk
>Ny8wk
brainlet
don't reply to me again
And the frick you gonna do about it, homosexual?
Ny8wk
go Ny8wk yourself
>Ny8wk
wat
>cities, while generally clean and crime-free
more important to me than trashy disgusting dirty dangerous cities and the ""culture"" that comes with it
>delicious fresh food available at every street corner
the food that's available on "every street corner" in Japan is noodles, deep fried crap, or packaged onigiri. so fresh and delicious, folded 1000 times
It's pretty damn beautiful tbh
I like anime and manga, and Japanese girls.
I also like the language. I’ve started learning 4 languages over the years and Japanese is the only one that I still want to improve.
Why not, at least the language is useful unlike Vietnamese or Thai
>moronic moonrunes
>even natives can't read most of them
>useful
And there are 170,000 English words. You think you understand all of them?
useful for what, lmao? watching anime?
I can somewhat understand someone like pewdiepie who is rich and can easily afford living in Japan and doesn't have to engage with the society to a degree if he doesn't want to. But for commoners who will have to work there it would be hell.
>Why so many gaijin want to move here?
Creampies jap girls ... creampie them on the first date
If I’m being honest, I don’t know why I’m so attracted to Japan or why I want to go there. I just do.
The lack of Black folk.
Silence, because you got blown the frick out.
Next time listen to the main threads. They are made of people who already dealt with your ilk and are actually trying to help you, you fricking idiot.
>YWNBJ
k and? frick off
I will move to Japan and marry a Japanese cutie
that's it.
Goddamn reading this shit makes me feel like I have such a big wiener
>Military contractor
>Live in Japan as long as I want, don't need to apply for a visa
>Do piss easy IT work
>Access to American bases and all the products and services within
>Live in downtown Tokyo in a big apartment completely paid for by the government
>Make 80k a year
>Work with Americans and American work culture (aka no 80 hour overtime workweeks and asked to come in on weekend japanese bullshit)
>Have been able to come and go between the US and Japan freely throughout all of the ""lockdown""
>Easy access to Jap girls that will frick you just for taking them to the chili's on base
Dude just work for the US government. Go to USAjobs or clearance jobs and get hired to work here. I can't believe nobody has suggested that
>I can't believe nobody has suggested that
Those jobs are extremely competitive and hard to get. On the USAjobs side of that, career feds often take PAYCUTS to get into overseas positions. That's what folks will be competing with.
>Why so many gaijin want to move here?
>flushing flat pieces of biodegradable paper: no you will clog the pipes
>flushing your fatty regurgitated 800g mctriple cheese with ultra bacon with titanolarge fries and that mcsundae from 3 days ago: okay
somebody explain this bullshit
Why the frick wouldn't you flush the toilet paper?
I’ve lived in China (I’ve lived in a decent hotel for 5 years) and their plumbery is so shit that it may clog the toilet.
However I always flushed the toilet because I don’t give a frick and the hotel is decent.
Public toilets in China are fricking disgusting because the bin is full of paper covered in shit. Frick.
I lived in China for 5 years too (你好法过特)and always put the paper in the toilet no problem. You're siding too much paper you fatass.
be 16
>anime
>pretty colours, explore the unfamiliar (lived in UK, AU & CA in my childhood)
be 21
>extremely racist
really frickin ironic for all the people that blame immigrants for ruining their city while wanting to move to japan, contributing to the decline of "exotic japanese culture"
I don't care about immigrants
I just want a functioning train system
This, gib trains.
Seoul, Hong Kong, and Singapore's metro is literally identical to Tokyo's.
That is Japans problem to handle
passing gas
I'm sick of the diversity
>but you going to japan is the same thing
if I lived in a homogeneous nation and it was only japs moving here I would be thrilled
I don't want to move to Japan, but I do want to cycle Japan.
I'd like to go hiking in Hokkaido, maybe visit the Sapporo brewery while I'm there. I don't wanna move to Japan just visit some spots. I'm interested in the landscapes and food.
It's probably the 40 year old women who look like teenagers, or the local men coofing on you because you're replacing their bloodlines
I can understand the allure of living in Japan for a while. Moving there permanently feels like a different story. The more I learn about Japan over time the more I realize it's just too closed off as a society for outsiders, you can't be apart of it and you will always be the token gaijin, and even your haafu kids will be considered weird at school. Japan does have tons of cool shit but most of it is not worth moving there permanently for. The only real thing you miss out on is easy access to Japanese food imho
For an American like me I get why Japan feels like an upgrade. For a Euro it's not so clear.
Pussy
whats up with the social media tier polarization? it's not heaven on earth and a weebs dream come true but it isn't a shitty soulless hellscape full of bug people who work 20 hours a day or whatever either
There are three groups of people usually involved in discussions about japan on any english speaking website.
1. People who have never been there and build up some idealized fantasy version of it in their head, often because they dislike their own country.
2. People who have never been there and use every scrap of negative news about Japan to paint the country as some sort of dystopia, no matter how much they have to cherrypick to ignore the positive aspects.
3. Unsuccessful expates, often english teachers, who feel alienated due to not knowing the language and have little upwards mobility, thus often feeling bitter and blaming the country itself for their problems.
People who have no interest in Japan obviously don't care either way and people who life their and are successful have less reason to weigh in on the matter, so like every discussion online only these with fairly extreme opinions actually engage with it.
> Why so many gaijin want to move here?
So as to enjoy fat Japanese chicks who (hopefully) do not yet have a western entitlement complex. So, pretty much, unless that's your thing, I won't be stepping on your toes much.
>fat Japanese chicks
Do those even exist?