Winter Travel from Europe?

Bros, I can't stand this cold and ice and darkness. I need to flee Europe to somewhere warm and SUNNY for a while. My company will let me work from wherever for up to 3 months. Where should I go? Preferably somewhere cheap.

Egypt? Seems too dangerous.
Dubai/U.A.E./Qatar? I dunno, expensive?
Turkey? Not warm enough in winter?
Mexico? Maybe. Cancun or something.
Thailand? Long flight, but maybe.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greece is nice in the winter. Not the islands but elsewhere.

    Sicily.

    Southern Spain.

    Canary Islands.

    Use your head, anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not really warm in those places though. I'm leaning towards Mexico. Expensive flight but cheap once I'm there.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not really warm in those places though. I'm leaning towards Mexico. Expensive flight but cheap once I'm there.

      Was in Greece and Turkey recently and I wouldn’t really call it warm here. It’s been 55-65 and cloudy/rainy pretty much everyday. It’s warmer than the north for sure but not really that much of an improvement, it was a lot better a month or two ago when it was 75-85.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want purely sun, go to a nice resort in either Egypt or Southern Morocco. It’ll be dirt cheap, you’ll get the weather and if it’s a resort you won’t need to worry about safety concerns. They’re often run by big European or American hotel chains and it’s all self contained.

    You can also go to the canaries which is roughly the same distance, a lot more boring and often the weather isn’t as good but it’s still fairly warm.

    Sorry to tell you, but the best you’re going to get anywhere in Europe is mild autumn weather at best.

    BTW, Dubai isn’t anywhere near as expensive as you’d think.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's a nice affordable place to go in Dubai for a first timer

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Egypt? Seems too dangerous.
    >Mexico? Maybe. Cancun or something.
    bro what? How do you calculate this danger factor? How is Egypt more dangerous than Mexico?

    I was in Egypt like 1 month ago and I took my 1yo daughter with me and we're looking forward to go there again in 2 months or so.

    If you're looking the closest and warmest place to go in winter it's Marsa Alam hands down. I dunno if it's the safest, but it's probably safer than most European cities.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, the U.S. state department and most European agencies say don't go to Egypt due to the threat of terrorism.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I mean, the U.S. state department and most European agencies say don't go to Egypt due to the threat of terrorism.
        Sure, but they also say don't go to Mexico. In last two years there was like 1 terrorist attack with 11 dead Egyptian soldiers. Every few years there's some huge terrorist attack with dozens of casualties (rarely tourists), but other than that Egypt has like 2 homicides per 100k each year (only slightly above european levels).

        Homicides in Mexico are counted in tens of thousands each year (almost 30 per 100k - similar to some US cities) due to cartels and shit.

        tldr: Egypt is 10 times safer than Atlanta, which is safer than Mexico, which is 2 times safer than Baltimore. US State Department can gtfo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Baltimore
          Well I grew up in Maryland so that's hardly surprising. On the other hand, "safer than Baltimore" isn't really my litmus test for whether or not a place is safe to travel to.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What about everything else he said?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"safer than Baltimore" isn't really my litmus test for whether or not a place is safe to travel
            Ok. So let's take my beautiful country of Poland - which is one of the safest countries in Europe. Poland has below 1 murder per 100k people per year - let's call this unit of measure "P" and the lowest P the place is safer.

            Japan (absolute top) is 0.3P

            France is 1.5P

            Egypt is 2.5P

            Mexico is 30P

            Baltimore is 60P - let's call this unit "B":

            Ukraine is 4B

            Mexico is 0.5B

            Egypt is 0.035B

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Screencapped this

              OP you’d better play it safe and stick to Brighton

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You also have to consider that Mexico city has almost 10 million people. Baltimore city has about 500,000. In order for Mexico city to have a murder rate of 30 people per 100,000, 3 people have to get killed EVERY DAY. Whereas in Baltimore it's usually about 300 for the year. So you tell me which city is more dangerous, one with a single murder every day, or one with 3 murders per day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So you tell me which city is more dangerous, one with a single murder every day, or one with 3 murders per day.
                One with higher chances of getting you killed of course. If you're 1 person out of 1 000 000 standing in front of wall and there are 1000 bullets coming into 1000 random people you're still much safer than if it's just 1 bullet, but you're 1 out of just 10 people.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >U.S. state department and most European agencie
        This is normie shit. If you follow their guidelines, you likely can only go to Canada or Belgium. Obviously use common sense, but I've been to *many* of the countries the state department wishes US citizens to not go, and it felt safer than most major US city downtowns. Take what they say with a grain of salt.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cheap all inclusive resort trips with air fare included to Egypt. It's tempting. My wife wants to go....probably will go in January. If she gets raped to death it was what she wanted anyway.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The French government actually publishes a map of safe areas to travel. It's better than the US advice, with some political caveats like there's no reason Russia should be orange.

          The map shows Egypt as safe, at least the parts any tourist is likely to go to. Just don't go to North Sinai or the western desert.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            whats that red spot in Japan?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fukushima

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Marsa Alam
      Seems like legit advice. Thanks.

      Morocco is pleasant in the winter and very cheap; I'd choose some southern beach town with lots of expats, like Taghazout or Tiznit.

      >Morocco
      I know a guy who ended up in the ICU there from food poisoning. I dunno, I don't think I'll go there.

      [...]
      Was in Greece and Turkey recently and I wouldn’t really call it warm here. It’s been 55-65 and cloudy/rainy pretty much everyday. It’s warmer than the north for sure but not really that much of an improvement, it was a lot better a month or two ago when it was 75-85.

      Yea you have to go REALLY far South, into Egypt at least, to get decent weather in winter.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Morocco is pleasant in the winter and very cheap; I'd choose some southern beach town with lots of expats, like Taghazout or Tiznit.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kenya, 90 day evisa available

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Egypt?
    >Maybe, avoid Cairo though. It's shit, with hyper aggressive salesmen. Other parts of Egypt are great though.
    Dubai/U.A.E./Qatar
    >Doesn't need to be expensive, if you're using dollars or euros. I was genuinely impressed with the range of accommodations i saw in dubai and doha, can't speak for abu dhabi though.
    Turkey
    >I'm a big fan of Istanbul, and less so, but still liked Ankara. I know there's a lot of people that don't like Istanbul here, but the internet was fantastic, people were kind, and the food was great.
    >Mexico
    Most of mexico is pretty cheap and has decent internet. Cancun of course is a tourist hotspot, so you're going to pay significantly more than most places in Mexico. I enjoyed working remotely from Ixtapa, Mexico City, and Zapopan. Cancun, Acapulco, Puerto Vallarta seemed very touristy and (relatively) expensive.
    >Thailand
    Bangkok was extremely cheap when i visited it like 7 months ago, and the locals seemed way more accommodating than pre-covid. Something happened there, not sure what. Phuket is of course very touristy, though still relatively cheap.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yea fuck it, going to Egypt. Big resort, looks nice. All inclusive, like one I went to in Cancun back in the day. Weather isn't SO warm in January but it's sure a lot better than -10C as it is here. If I die, remember me how I lived - full of hate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Godspeed, anon.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've spent the past 3 winter seasons (November to May) working remotely from the Canary Islands and it's clearly the best choice.

    The fact that people are recommending Egypt or some other shit-tier options motivated me to write this and offer to answer any questions anyone might have.

    >warmer than options like Egypt
    >cheap
    >part of the EU
    >spanish culture, which includes good food and women (or at least in my opinion)
    >extremely diverse landscapes, you can drive 30 min from the beach and go hiking in the mountains
    >safe
    >people are friendly
    >cheap flights from almost anywhere in Europe
    >fast internet
    >no tax on cigarettes and alcohol
    >and plenty more upsides

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Canary islands get boring after a week. The beaches are shit, all rocky. To add to that, Egypt has some of the world's best scuba diving coral reefs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The cheapest and quickest option is definitely Canarias. I especially liked exploring Tenerife and La Gomera by car and bicycle respectively. Might go there myself this or next year.

        is a fool.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I highly recommend you Madeira or Azores Island if you want to escape from crowded places and be surrounded by a stunning nature. I also recommend you Crete or Spain if you don't want to renounce to a good nightlife

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Seconding this, spent Christmas in Madeira two years ago, it was 20 degrees and sunny

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Egypt isn't dangerous at all. Unless you're a woman in which case it's not safe unless you're traveling with a man. They openly harass lone women there.
    The exception of course is if a woman is traveling to one of the coastal resort towns or with a tour group.

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