You told me i would get beheaded in the street.
Did i get 4chaned?
You told me Paris would be like Iraq!
You told me i would get beheaded in the street.
A different travel community.
You told me i would get beheaded in the street.
Did i get 4chaned?
Golden triangle is Paris’ most posh areas (that and Saint Germain des Prés which is not part of the triangle).
If you go to the suburbs or Château Rouge on the other hand…
this channel made a lot of videos 30mn walks in Paris, in how many of these do you see packs of jihadis stealing, killing and raping?
Yeah no shit Paris is huge, I live in it; not literally everywhere is a shithole. But the city is getting worse for many reasons and not only because of poopskins.
I still think Paris is unmatched for many things you cannot find elsewhere in France, despite the decay.
But unfortunately, shitty neighborhoods are also part of Paris’ reality. Also a lot of the riots and car burning occured in the suburbs, not inside Paris. There are many issues in Paris though, but not the most extreme ones.
>the city is getting worse for many reasons and not only because of poopskins.
Elaborate, how is Paris getting more shit than any other western city?
In L.A. you got Skid Row, no tourist goes there, no people living in L.A. would go for a walk on Skid Row. You just don't go, how hard is it?
How talking about L.A. is never about Skid Row but talking about Paris is always about muh bad neighborhood?
people romanticise a past that never existed in the first place
Paris is very filthy and has spent a shit ton of money on stupid as fuck ideas that are badly designed. It has gotten a lot worst since Hidalgo that cunt bitch mayor got elected years ago. Place de la Republique is such legacy of her disgusting politics; what was a perfectly normal roundabout has now become a plaza with full time protests; most of these protests always involve illegal poopskins asking to get papers.
Funnily enough, shitskin levels have remained more or less the same since Paris is extremely expensive to live in so many of these fuck off to other middle sized cities, they just follow wherever gibs are available, and there’s mass gentrification going on in these neighborhoods getting expensive day by day. There’s an overspilling phenomenom. Example: Elbeuf in Normandy; an utter shithole worse than the worse neighborhood inside Paris.
Some places such as Barbès are getting (very) slightly better; you can now see more and more white people owned businesses thanks to expensive as fuck rents, while it was fully arabic/subsaharean 20 years ago. Still a shithole though.
>Did i get 4chaned?
>Hidalgo that cunt bitch mayor got elected years ago
Ok pol/ster try harder
Technically this park is a "no go zone" a year and a half ago I was having a beer with a friend in this park. I was wearing gym shorts so my phone was kind of hanging out of my pocket as we were sitting on log and a black youth snagged my phone and ran down the trail. I'm a former sprinter and run 5k everyday and this teen was a bit chubby so I quickly caught up to him and tackled him from behind and grabbed my phone back. He then pulled out a small blade and then I ran away. After the incident I went to the prefecture to report the crime and the police told me they won't go down into that park as it has no cameras. So technically a no go zone, but its filled with peaceful park goers and elderly couples walking during the day.
Anyone who says "no go zone" is obviously a 4chancuck
You must be the only person who likes her because absolutely everybody loathes her, including arabs.
It wasn’t shit back then in the 60s and 70s. Sure it was pretty underwhelming but far from being the current day shithole.
>It wasn’t shit back then in the 60s and 70s
It started being shit when the textile industry left, then the car industry took over (but not totally), then hordes of blacks and maghrebis were imported and drug dealing took over.
It was already a dangerous city in the 90s.
> everybody loathes her, including arabs.
Everybody of course, especially those who do not live in Paris obviously, she won the elections, twice.
Technically, it's not a park, it's a promenade.
During the day?
Yes because at night it's closed, I don't even think there are any public lights so either your story is made up or you were in an illegal situation. Not to mention this story of complaining to the prefecture instead of going to the local police station which is right nearby. Nice LARP.
>Example: Elbeuf in Normandy; an utter shithole worse than the worse neighborhood inside Paris.
kek, Elbeuf has always been shit.
t. born and raised in Elbeuf (but escaped as soon as i could)
>Paris is very filthy and has spent a shit ton of money on stupid as fuck ideas that are badly designed.
>literally every city in the world
Sick of fags like you going "I live there it's the WORST it's SHIT". You will always find shit if you look for it you stupid cunt. Move to Somalia if Paris is so shit.
I’ve lived in Paris for 20 years and it’s not an excuse for the city to get worse. I want it to see it improve for fuck’s sake.
>i didn't get beheaded though!
You got 4chaned but you didn't get lied to in sighsee. Paris is an absolute shithole, a complete fucking stain on France. Same with Lyons and Marseille. Go look up videos of the small towns of France and realize just how utterly trash Paris is in comparison. The only reason to stop in Paris is it's airport and to then hop directly on a train or car the fuck out of there towards the real France (which is actually good).
>move to somalia if Paris is so shit
Why would I do that when Annecy is a thing? The sighsee consensus on France is aligned with 4chan on only ONE thing and that's that Paris fucking sucks (and it does), the difference comes with real travelers advising you go to small towns in France as they are both still French and leagues better than Paris by practically every metric. Even romantically, you're better off taking a bitch to Mont Sant-Michelle than the Champs-Elysses. The only good part of Paris is Montmartre, despite the flood of tourists, as it still has some soul left in it.
>Fox News Goggles
Ah yes, it's only rightoids who hate Paris. Just look at the far right outlet The Telegraph and their take on how Paris' local government has willfully destroyed the city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIaMOKF_TUk
Or just watch normal parisians talking about the urban decay going on: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23saccageparis&src=typeahead_click
I need your real traveler opinion on Bordeaux and Toulouse.
Town is pretty, built in Hausmann style (like Paris)
The night life is rich, lots of students. People from the south are pretty welcoming.
Also we're not very far from the ocean
> .t I live in Bordeaux
Bordeaux is a shithole by the standards of pol/
Bordeaux is better than Toulouse and has a good amount of nearby locations for daytrips that are absolute kino. Toulouse is a bit more modern but overall not bad, imo it's the best "big city" option in France.
>its super right wing
its practically centrist by US standards. Even then, it's also why I linked to literal parisians on twitter picturing the decline of the city. And even if the torygraph is literally 4chan on print, you still have no way to counter the lack of maintenance, deforestation, concrete block spam and overall retardation fucking up the city. The degeneration of Paris is undeniable, especially if you've been before this current decade.
>so much to do and see
generic statement applicable literally anywhere
>go live in a village and retire grandad
Annecy is better than Paris, especially if you can appreciate non-australian syrah. Mont Sant-Michelle is a marvel of a town, unlike most any other. Rouen is beautiful, cut in half by a river, same with Rennes or Colmar which has a near fantasy storybook feel to it. The only thing you're telling me is you're a capitalcuck who has never once left the capital city of any nation and completely fails to understand the real beauty of travel.
It should be illegal to be as retarded as you are, proud being the most absolute mongoloid while at the same time shitting on people who encourage you to get off the beaten path. 4chan and newfags like you have absolutely fucked this board
I spend half of my time in Paris, the other half near Rouen. (The latter is slowly degrading because of immigration; if you want to eat decent food, you have to go to medieval Rouen, otherwise expect to eat kebabs or mcdonald’s everywhere else)
I agree with you and I was the one complaining about the shit cunt mayor. Paris has deteriorated in many ways, and not only because of non-whites, unfortunately.
And while I do agree that France is not only Paris, I still think it’s stupid to completely skip Paris. If you love food and arts, Paris remains unbeatable. Le Louvre, Orsay, Orangerie, Carnavalet, Cognacq-Jay… Just to name a few world class museums. It’s kinda like London, I spent a month road tripping in the whole of England, and ended the trip in London; no matter how many people on here saying it’s shit, not worth it, I found it very impressive, and enjoyed it a lot, despite everything. The food and museums, and cultural stuff (concerts, events…) are still unmatched. The same can be said for Paris, if yoh care for that kind of shit.
So if you care about world-class museums and some unique food and real luxury, then yes, go to Paris, stay in the whitest areas (Saint-Germain, Montmartre, mostly), and do something elsewhere in France. Grab a car and do a roadtrip, there are so many things to do.
So they lie for Bordeaux but not for Paris? they can't be wrong and right at the same time.
I mentioned their standards which are as soon as you see a person with a little too much dark skin, homeless people, migrants who are often isolated minors, downtown areas that are not safe at nightfall or even in broad daylight, garbage bins in the street filled with garbage, that's what they call "shithole"
Bordeaux fits the description... like all the big cities in Europe and the Western World
>migrants who are often isolated minors
You don't actually believe that do you?
What exactly is there to believe?
The Telegraph is literally one of the most right wing newspapers in the UK, its famously called the Torygraph. You just dont know shit. Paris is a fantastic city. So much to do and see, its one of the worlds greatest cities. Go and live in a fucking village and retire grandad.
Admittedly I went during 2016/17 but I've never been to a city before where the streets were filled with Africans trying to foist stolen wares onto me every 2 seconds while armed soldiers with high powered weaponry on every corner looked on.
Captown or Pretoria?
>implying the torys, the telegraph, fox news etc could at all be called right wing
fox news is center-left. real right wing news comes from outlets like the daily stormer.
>fox news is center-left
>big world city is dirtier and has less rustic charm than tiny countryside towns
>this means the city is irrevocably shit, has zero good qualities, is terrible through and through
get a grip dumb cunt
>big world city is dirtier and has less rustic charm than tiny countryside towns
surprise by the way you big dumb cunt
>Paris is very filthy
tbqh, Paris was really clean when I visited, at least for a big city. Paris also didn't have lingering funky odors in the air, but that's probably due to it being more modernized compared to other older European cities.
Compared to somewhere like Rome, cigarette buds were everywhere on the sewer grates.
European cities didn't need to have these problems in the first place. They saw America and thought "huh you know what we need is a giant hostile violent brown underclass." It's a pointless shame.
I've never understood how they let it happen.
In the US, the left always justifies the importation of 3rd worlders under the idea that we can't say no because white people are actually immigrants in another native people's land. But the French are the native people of France. They could just be all "you're invading our sacred land, get out." But they don't.
>But the French are the native people of France. They could just be all "you're invading our sacred land, get out." But they don't.
Kek the History of France by 4chan far from reality like always
>Francia, also called the Kingdom of the Franks (Latin: Regnum Francorum), Frankish Kingdom, Frankland or Frankish Empire, was the largest post-Roman barbarian kingdom in Western Europe. It was ruled by the Franks during Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages. After the Treaty of Verdun in 843, West Francia became the predecessor of France, and East Francia became that of Germany.
>he French people, especially the native speakers of langues d'oïl from northern and central France, are primarily the descendants of Gauls (including the Belgae) and Romans (or Gallo-Romans, western European Celtic and Italic peoples), as well as Germanic peoples such as the Franks, the Visigoths, the Suebi and the Burgundians who settled in Gaul from east of the Rhine after the fall of the Roman Empire, as well as various later waves of lower-level irregular migration that have continued to the present day
do you think you're impressing anyone here with the most rudimentary historical knowledge?
This is just to highlight the bullshit that anon says
>I've never understood how they let it happen.
I'll tell you how it happened, first, industrials wanted cheap labor in the 1970s, so they imported migrants to pay them less than europeans.
Then, "liberal" intellectuals, mostly garden gnomes, said it was not ok to have them here only temporarily and we had to let their whole families in.
These "intellectuals" then promoted aimless mass migration and said we were too white. If you opposed it, you were "far right ultra nationalist nazi".
They only promote it for Europe and the US btw, never for Israel.
Migrants themselves are only partially to blame, they didn't invade anything, some people opened the door.
it's just sad.
>Yeah no shit Paris is huge
Paris is ridiculously small. 100 square kilometers.
Madrid is 600 square kilometers. Berlin is 900 square kilometers. London is 1600 square kilometers. Istanbul is 5000 square kilometers.
5000 sq km for a city is autism. The perfect size for a city is probably NYC (1200 sq km) or London. Paris needs to get with the program, no wonder nobody can afford to live within city limits anymore.
Imagine being such a dumb retarded gay you fail to realize different countries and cities measure their major metropolitan areas differently
lmao look at a map now and then
>ou fail to realize different countries and cities measure their major metropolitan areas differently
not him but what u mean
Paris is very conservative. They do not count all the suburbs as Paris, and I think they are right. It’s very different in many ways.
Basically anything outside of the ring road is not Paris. Hence why “city center” of Paris is meaningless, as pretty much everything within the ring is “central”, depending on what you want to do.
Just some random dimensional lines for sense of scale of Paris
And some of the same kind of dimensional lines for sense of scale of Berlin which that retard said was "omg so much heckin bigger" in his gross misuse of the Costanza at the bat meme
>Saint-Denis, Bobigny, Créteil, Noisy le Grand are Paris
Ok mate, wow.
Cope and seethe dumb retarded retard
If you live in Naperville you live in Chicago
If you live in Florham Park you live in NYC
If you live in Clearwater you live in Tampa
If you live in Tempe you live in Phoenix
Metropolitan area includes burbs and no amount of COPE can change that
cope cope cope cope cope cope cope cope cope gay.
Ask the people in Aulnay-sous-Bois if they think they live in Paris, kek.
It doesn't matter. They live in Paris. Simple as.
The reason why Paris is only considered as anything within the ring road limit is because there needs to be some sort of border. And Paris’ real estate is insanely expensive, the moment you step out of the ring road, prices are totally different (even if they are rising as well). Even the public transports are not the same for many of these areas. It’s one of these cities that really makes a clear differences once you’re “out” of the proper city and people living in the banlieues don’t consider themselves parisians, except for those who spent their childhood/school years within Paris.
if you live in Ft. Worth, as far as anyone outside of DFW is concerned, you live in Dallas.
(this makes ft. worthers seethe)
Limits of Paris in Red
So yeah, Berlin is bigger...
fucking absolute retard. have a nice day.
London is literally a square mile in size
If I go to France I want to see French people, not Arabs and blacks, anything more that 1% is unacceptable. Trump was right that Paris isnt Paris anymore
But the French dont want to see you, they'd rather you stayed with the Blacks and arabs
All evidence indicates the French no longer exist, lost in the sands of time
By the holy bottle of Armagnac of my grandfather!
We are still here, just go to any town with less than 2 000 people.
Or better, talk to people in France, some will point you in the right direction.
>we still exist! just go to the complete outskirts of civilization where the shitty dying small towns full of only old people are!
>We are still here, just go to any town with less than 2 000 people.
>Or better, talk to people in France, some will point you in the right direction
Go to France
>Hello colored gentleman, can you tell me where i can find real French people please?
>Shieeet, dem crackas hiddin in dere. *points at forest*
you need to wear your special Fox News Goggles. Once you put those on you'll seen the world in a very "different" way.
Some morons tried to mug me in Mont-Martre. morons and ragheads run rabid throughout Paris, only city in France that's worse is Marseille.
Well, if you go to New York Brownsville, you will get killed.
If you go to a bad neighborhood in any city in the world, it will be bad.
You will not get killed in Brownsville it’s not Gotham city hahaha
Depends on the suburb you flaming homosexual
Cool larp bro, what is that the best part of Paris? Not gonna watch some fag video of 4 shitskin dudes and 4 cunts wearing masks and think omg I just have to go there.
Who the fuck actually believes that Fox news crap?
Best news network.
They are good at apologizing
El famoso No Go Zone
the upper class areas of paris are heaven on earth
south of river was far better to me, north towards montmarte was too touristy, only really around bastille felt normal
no you won't get beheaded, but visiting an area like that will get you automatic AIDS considering the bunch of fruit bags there.
every single thread about europe or america on this board is the same
The truth doesn't change overnight.
I've been to Paris a lot of times this year and it's definitely the blackest city I've ever seen in Europe, some areas resembled Chicago.
Try to take the rer B or D north of Châtelet, the only white people you will see are tourist heading to CDG.
A solid 90% of the people working "humble jobs" in services, expecially on metro lines are black and they ALWAYS give you wrong informations, they always do their job poorly and I've notices that if behind the counter there's a black cashier or barista, then the waiting times for even the simplest thing gets longer.
Yet I only felt threatened by some black thugs once near Montmartre. It's alway better to use common sense in every city, but it Paris is really easy to do so, you can easily spot the bad parts of the city and even in the good ones (the Seine at night) it's easy to avoid trouble.
How much does it cost to live in a small house in Haute-Savoie?
I just returned from Paris yesterday my impression of the city is that every american and every chinese needs to be gassed
I was told that parisians would be rude. But apart from a beggars all were quite nice
I'm always told by other Americans that people will be rude. I guess if you act like a fat suburban boomer "Karen" retard, people aren't nice to you. I've never had a problem in any "rude" places.
These are the people who say the French are rude. Which is true they are rude, to them specifically.
>takes a stroll through the area where rich people live
>wow, this isn't bad at all
4chan is reactionary. Overreacting is what they do.
If there was any truth to anything they were saying, we’d all be getting raped by vaxxed super mutant trannies when we step outside our pods to eat bugs.
Do black/brown people in Paris get as shitty if you speak to them in English as the French do?
Their English is even worse than French people, and they would probably rob you or scam you. Do not interact with them unless they’re actually working.
You go lucky buddy. One of the first sights I had when I arrived in Paris gare du nord was a steaming mass of liquid shit on the floor by the exit. Beautifully fresh.
Also another funny sight was a trail of shit on like 5 meters or so, leading to a poop wrapped inside a mask, back then when people still had to wear masks on a daily occurencd. It was both hilarious and disgusting.
When i visited San Francisco, there were human feces everywhere.
I live in Columbus and we have a huge Somali(and other muslim) population. I don't really notice them outside of their shitty driving and talking on their speakerphone.
oh man i can't believe an internet message board compromised by retarded neo nazis that never leave bumblefuck suburbs were wrong about a place they've never visited
Paris is quite chill and nice. Cleaner and easier to get around in than really any American city and the culture is cool
>paris is chill and nice
>cleaner and easier to get around in than any american city
get around, yeah, cleaner than any other american city? bit of a stretch
>i agree that the small towns are better than paris
>spends the entire thread disagreeing with me on this point
I will never understand someones obsessive need to be retarded.
>but it has world class museums and food
French food is great anywhere in france, it really is just cope to say BUT PARIS since France particularly has so much to offer gastronomically. The only REAL draw left to Paris is museums, at which point you have to defend that the only good part of an entire city boils down to a handful of buildings.
>cultural stuff like concerts and events
that's not parisian, that's capitals all over the world. Capitals of a country are the center for events and concerts.
Call it what it is, Paris is a shithole, mostly irredeemable except for a museum or two and a neighborhood or two. Overall, if your only reason to go to a city is to avoid the city in a lone building the entire day, I'd call it pretty shit.
by the same logic, SJWs don't exist and you should stop obsessing over your eternal boogieman and realize that civilized people don't care about race and chuds like you
they simply have other things to think about, because the world never got to this point by simply worrying about muh people. shit needs to get built while normalfags and women go rambling about muh social issue this muh political issue there
I dunno, I went to Paris a couple months ago and it was pretty bad in non-touristy areas.
Lots of homeless people and lots of colored youth.
Eww, it looks like New York
Eww, it looks like Bangkok
The rats there are more French than 99% of the people in Paris
>all these fags arguing anonymously
Ive only ever been there for a few days a couple times and yeah its messy and loud but whatever.
Meanwhile my friend here finishes work at 5 or 6 so ive got a few hours to kill. What pub should i go to
There's a pub called "Les Putes du Bois de Boulogne", it's in the XVIth.
It's like a speakeasy place, you have to ask the locals where it is.
Nice try petit con >:(
Paris is a complete shithole.
I genuinely thought I was in Dakar or Lagos.
I liked Paris a lot. Spent a couple months there 5 years ago, maybe it's gotten worse. Lots of interesting architecture, neighborhoods feel unique. I would wake up at 5am to explore the city and find places to watch the sunrise. If you're an autist who wants to wonder around early mornings and look at buildings, I highly recommend Paris. Do go in the early mornings since that is when they clean the city, the evenings are much more crowded and dirty.
The museums are cool too. If you can speak French and/or have social skills, people are friendly. I have fond memories drinking by the Seine.
I went to jogger neighborhoods in Paris a couple times, they were interesting but certainly not French. There is a little merit to Paris isn't France, but it's not as extreme as people say. Lots of French people live there for uni/work and enjoy being there.
I've been to several cities in the Loire valley, they are kino but small. I want to visit more small cities in France. The ones I visited were beautiful. Paris was much more bleak and gray.
I think Paris is hated for two reasons. The first being brown and black people. The second is every dumb roastie dreams of going to Paris and seeing the Eiffel tower, so people hate Paris to be contrarian.
hey look everything within the limits is definitely chicago and everything outside the limits is definitely not chicago see it's true because muh gay arbitrary definition of what a city is
So every connected urban area is a part of the city? If the urban sprawl extends 50km it's all part of one city?
We have some geography/sociology cracks around here
>the urban center
I am in Paris currently. Enjoying the city a lot.
What’s certainly wrong and an incel myth about Paris is that it’s only black people and that you’ll get raped by BBC at sight the second you step in. It has completely African areas, but they’re patrolled by police. It’s safe even there in the daylight. Wealthy Arrondissements are surprisingly white and just all around wonderful.
Suburbs are a very mixed experience, with tons of shady people and grim architecture. No real reason to go north of Montmartre, ever.
Otherwise, follow common sense safety rules and you’ll enjoy the experience. For life, it seems an extremely difficult city: very VERY expensive real estate and the actually nice places are almost unaffordable.
Sorry for the c-c-c-combo breaker but enjoy your trip anon. At the end of August, just before the Parisians come back from vacations, Paris must be nice
There are tons of residential areas in Paris that look like this and are just luxury homes with nothing to fear or be disgusted about. They’re just as nice as they look and the share of mogs is well below 20% here. The sole issue with them is they’re unaffordable if you ever plan to actually live in Paris.
Theres a place around Chateau Rouge and Barbes where there’s really, actually no one but Africans. Africans and police, some of whom are Africans themselves. I believe most “whoah Paris is Africa!” memes come from there.
It’s really shifty and smells weird like African weed, but I felt normal walking around there with a few other tourists. That’s about the worst you can experience during daytime in Paris proper. The suburbs and nighttime are another story.
Pretty much. But again, absolutely no reason to go to suburbs. There’s nothing to offer in these places. A more authentic experience would be any residential areas within Paris.
That, or leave Paris and go to villages or small towns far away.
and if they are in paris we call them poggers
Avoid everything North of Gare Du Nord. The rest of Paris proper is just a genuinely nice place.
Paris is basically a third world shit hole nowadays, it has its charms but it doesn't feel like Europe anymore. I was actually shocked at the state of the city last time I visited.
You've clearly never been to Paris more than once. It has always been a shithole for centuries now.
I was recently in Madrid for the first time and it felt like a Spanish ethnostate compared to Paris
>hear Spanish spoken everywhere, no desert tounges
>most immigrants are sudacas and Indians/Koreans who work corner stores, my hometown in the states i see more Hispanics in a daily basis
>gypsies aren’t terrible if you just tell them to fuck off
>locals aren’t as annoying and dismissive as frogs
Meanwhile Paris felt like a decaying post industrial US city with blacks and mudslides everywhere. Grime and trash everywhere, and what little food was left felt like a Disney theme park. I never felt unsafe in Madrid even dead of night but even in the day time in Paris I felt a little uneasy everywhere
Madrid is really underrated, amazing place to visit.
>what little food was left felt like a Disney theme park
>*what little good
The only good parts of the city were extremely sterile and only felt like they were a playground for the elite and upkept for tourism, didn’t feel like anyone actually lived there. Compare this to el centro in Spain where you barely see any migrants and people are just living life and going to work
What the hell do you mean dude, El Centro is full of Latin American migrants/tourists and people all over the world visiting it.
Idk I mean I saw a good amount but it wasn’t anything crazy. I live in the US and in my town I see way more just going to the mall.
It’s better than hearing Arabic in France and Turkish in Germany
No Arabic? Because there is no mosq in Spain? Picrel
There is no Cartels (Sinaloa, Zetas) In Valencia and Madrid?
It's time to read up on some of the things you need to know
bro what? There are no cartels in spain and those mosques are like a 1000 year old reqonquista tourist museums
>those mosques are like a 1000 year old reqonquista tourist museums
The good times of the Reconquista in the 90s
>The construction of the Islamic Cultural Center of Madrid, which is considered the largest Islamic cultural institution in Spain, is a further strengthening of those ties. It was inaugurated on September 21, 1992
>There are no cartels in spain
10sec on Google
>Spain seizes four Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel suspects
>A gang linked to one of the most powerful drug trafficking syndicates, the Sinaloa Cartel, has been caught by the Spanish police.
Major cartels are international operations. They send a few guys to every region on earth to manage logistics. This doesn't mean anything to the average traveler.
So Sinaloa cartel fags getting caught in the US means the cartel is American now? Weird fucking logic you've got there, but as the other anon said, cartels obviously need offices where their consumers are, but it's the producing countries that get hit extremely hard by violence.
Weird fucking reading you've got there, I know well that cartels are everywhere and international.
>This doesn't mean anything to the average traveler.
I've never written anything to the contrary
And the other anon comes to explain to us that there are no mosques, no Arabs, that there is no immigration and no problems when Madrid is known for its drug problems in the 80s. This has brought a whole population of the Mediterranean basin i.e. Arabs plus all those from South America.
Without forgetting the existence of "las barranquillas".
It's a lot of bullshit to sink Paris based on big lies, we are used to it on this board.
>hear Spanish spoken everywhere
Implying it's just Spanish in Spain kek
I don't even need to read the thread to know exactly its content :
>Some guy points out that some places in Paris aren't shit
>Some retard, who is probably a French who's either non-Parisian or recently arrived there, goes on and on to explain how paris is shit
>Has never been to any other city ever, so he's basically idealizing what a city is and comparing that ideal of a city to what Paris is
>Flyover burgers will agree
>Megacity burgers will point out that New York City, etc. have the same problems
>Parisians will actively ignore this point and proceed in telling you how unsafe the city is
Here's the redpill : if you're a tourist nothing will happen to you. The worst thing that may happen is that a pickpocket gets to your wallet in a crowded subway. If your sightseeing consists of making a tally of the local ethnicities you should probably reconsider why the fuck you're traveling in the first place, because if you want to see white people in all their glory, you should've been going to fucking iceland. Paris is for visiting the nicer places because they usually are rich in culture (museums, art exhibs, maybe shopping) while enjoying a nice view of the buildings on a fucking rooftop bus tour, giving the bateau mouche a shot, visiting versailles and that's it. It's a five days trip then you get the fuck back from where you came from.
Just like every major city in every major country there are good parts and bad parts to be in. The only difference is how much someone will blow one or both sides out of proportion with a culture boner or just flat out racism or other bias. You will NEVER get an accurate picture of ANY city ANYWHERE on the planet from the opinions of a select few people. Especially when they are primarly schizos that post on a political board known for how fucking unhinged and retarded they are.
And since every other board on this site is infested with them you might as well just ignore anyones opinion on anything.
>paranoid nazis who think everything is a conspiracy told you a insane dystopian lie
>WAS I BEING LIED TO?!
Is Saint-Ouen okay to stay in? My airbnb is there for my upcoming trip.
Depends where in Saint-Ouen. If in Flea market m, it’s slightly better. It’s becominng gentrified.
But overall at night it can become sketchy. And the market under the road is absolutely depressing and nausea inducing. It’s ok only if you intend on taking uber/taxi or you have the subway right next to the airbnb. So I would say no, don’t go to Saint Ouen except for experiencing the Flea market, which in turn is truly unique and the biggest in the world.
I’d recommend getting something INSIDE Paris.
Can someone show me a racial/ethnic map of Paris? I don't want to be culturally enriched on my trip
Yes. Paris is really great and now is the time to go since they are cleaning the streets for the Olympics. Had great time there this summer.
Im here right now, pic related. My only other reference point is American cities and Paris blows them all out of the water. I really like it here. Scared to talk to women cause I can’t speak French but that’s another problem.
This entire board consists of angry ricecels trying hard to tell anyone that the west is practically "doomed", and China #1
Only a fool would take that seriously
Whites are either an absolute minority in births, or close to a minority in births in all Western nations. The new population hates white people and wants them eradicated. The West produces nothing, and is dependent on the third world for all its goods and services.
Keep coping and pretending as if all the major cities in the West, NYC, London, Paris and LA aren't massive shitholes. The BLM riots were just a hint of what is to come. And no one even mentioned China, you just know they're #1 instinctively 🙂
Never been to France but why is it that EVERY French couple I have seen has been white woman, black man? Why do French Women crave the BBC so badly?
>Never been to France
>EVERY French couple I have seen
So where did you see them? In USA?