>10 days in Italy. >7 in rome. >3 in Venice

>10 days in Italy
>7 in rome
>3 in Venice

What can I expect? Exactly how good are the gyps at jacking cellphones?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep your phone in a pocket that's difficult to reach.
    >tight pants
    >pants with zippered pockets
    >small daypack with lockable zippers

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >7 in rome
    why? at least stop by Florence on your way to Venice

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Exactly how good are the gyps at jacking cellphones?
    for people that are on high alert of gyps, you probably are fine, there are plenty of clueless people about

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      This goes for pickpockets in general. But I heard gypsy pickpockets are often females, and it is not normal for even experienced travelers to be on guard against female street criminals. Anon may be distracted by a pretty girl bumping into him, apologizing with an alluring smile, and then - oh shit, where my cellphone go?

      7 days in Rome is a lot of time. I mean it wouldn't be enough an entire month to visit Rome properly and explore all it has to offer between museums, buildings, food and so on, but unless you're a giga nerd about Ancient Rome or Renaissance art, I think you can dedicate less days to it. I think 3-4 days will do the job, enough days to visit the most important things without rushing it

      My opinion is to do 4 days in Rome, 3 days in another city that's located between rome and Venice, and then end with Venice. Florence, Siena or Bologna would be perfect.

      > Exactly how good are the gyps at jacking cellphones?

      I think the gyppos scare is getting out of hand thanks to tiktok and Instagram. Just don't be an idiot and follow some basic rules, don't leave your goods unattended, don't keep your wallet or phone in your rear pocket, be aware when walking in the crowd. Gipsies aren't incredibly skilled thieves, it's the tourists (especially asians and old people) who are dumb as frick and come here in Italy thinking they're in a theme park.

      if it didn't happen, people wouldn't be tripping over it

      My understanding is that the police don't do anything about gypsies because:
      >if they're minors, they can't be jailed
      >if they're adults, they usually don't steal enough to face serious consequences (I think it has to be over 400 euro or some other specific number)
      >if they're scammers, they're only breaking administrative laws (it's not illegal to sell a shitty overpriced product, but it is illegal for them to operate without a business license)

      But will the police get involved in retaliatory attempts? Like, if you caught a gypsy trying to steal your wallet and you deck the motherfricker, will the police come after you instead?

      Hopefully you aren't dumb enough to stick around and find out. However, the thief, once surprised in the act, would likely be out of punching range within half a second at most. I'd recommend shouting "thief!" and pointing, though eurocucks are unlikely to give a good Brazilian beatdown to a thief caught in the act.

      That’s another concern of mine I’m going with a gril and I don’t want to end up in an Italian prison for choking out some migrant gyppo

      Would not recommend. While you are tussling with the thief, his/her buddies are gonna come up from behind and hit you in the head.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Anon may be distracted by a pretty girl bumping into him, apologizing with an alluring smile

        Yes, the famous gipsy alluring smile
        Just stop talking out of your ass favelado, you clearly don't know what you're talking about and never seen a gipsy in your entire life

        OP just don't be an idiot and you'll be fine. Just the fact that you're a young male person is enough to protect you from thieves. If you're a gipsy, why try to rob someone who can easily discover you, run after you and beat the shit out of you after he gets you, when there's hundreds of old dumb boomers eating gelato with their wallet sticking out of their trousers just waiting for you to come and clean their pockets.
        Just follow basic SighSee knowledge like

        Like other anons already said, just pay attention to your surroundings and make sure you're always aware of your phone/wallet/keys/etc.
        I wore a phany pack-like bag across my chest. I also made sure to keep my hands tight around my bag when in very crowded places. I must have looked like a dumbo tourist, but at least I knew where my stuff was at all times without having to check every so often.

        said and you'll be good

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    in venice get away from the shithole that is the grand canal and go to the Arsenal area, and further east, thats where the city is beautiful

    as a Romanian, do not underestimate the gypsy, they will swarm you, pickpocket you, be aware of CHILDREN because thats who they send to steal your shit, as european laws dont allow child thieves to be jailed

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    7 days in Rome is a lot of time. I mean it wouldn't be enough an entire month to visit Rome properly and explore all it has to offer between museums, buildings, food and so on, but unless you're a giga nerd about Ancient Rome or Renaissance art, I think you can dedicate less days to it. I think 3-4 days will do the job, enough days to visit the most important things without rushing it

    My opinion is to do 4 days in Rome, 3 days in another city that's located between rome and Venice, and then end with Venice. Florence, Siena or Bologna would be perfect.

    > Exactly how good are the gyps at jacking cellphones?

    I think the gyppos scare is getting out of hand thanks to tiktok and Instagram. Just don't be an idiot and follow some basic rules, don't leave your goods unattended, don't keep your wallet or phone in your rear pocket, be aware when walking in the crowd. Gipsies aren't incredibly skilled thieves, it's the tourists (especially asians and old people) who are dumb as frick and come here in Italy thinking they're in a theme park.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for the tips lads. I’m doing two cities only because I’m a bit autistic and haven’t travelled in a while so didn’t want to over complicate it. If this trip goes alright might go to France next year.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    My understanding is that the police don't do anything about gypsies because:
    >if they're minors, they can't be jailed
    >if they're adults, they usually don't steal enough to face serious consequences (I think it has to be over 400 euro or some other specific number)
    >if they're scammers, they're only breaking administrative laws (it's not illegal to sell a shitty overpriced product, but it is illegal for them to operate without a business license)

    But will the police get involved in retaliatory attempts? Like, if you caught a gypsy trying to steal your wallet and you deck the motherfricker, will the police come after you instead?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s another concern of mine I’m going with a gril and I don’t want to end up in an Italian prison for choking out some migrant gyppo

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        My understanding is that the police don't do anything about gypsies because:
        >if they're minors, they can't be jailed
        >if they're adults, they usually don't steal enough to face serious consequences (I think it has to be over 400 euro or some other specific number)
        >if they're scammers, they're only breaking administrative laws (it's not illegal to sell a shitty overpriced product, but it is illegal for them to operate without a business license)

        But will the police get involved in retaliatory attempts? Like, if you caught a gypsy trying to steal your wallet and you deck the motherfricker, will the police come after you instead?

        if you are not moronic and just keep your valuables in the pocket where you hold your hand nobody is going to take it, they look for people not paying attention, like morons carrying their phone in a giant purse or bag or something they can reach in seconds

        all you need to do is pay some attention, nobody is going to attack you they are going to try to steal something from your pocket if they see you are a mouth breathing imbecile who's not concerned about losing their phone etc.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hello were is a good place to get drunk in venice without spending 5 euro per beer

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mestre

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say 4 days Rome, 3 days Florence, 2 days Venice (+ travel) would work better.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      3 days Rome, 2 days Florence, 1 day Verona, 2 days Venice. You can't skip Verona.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like other anons already said, just pay attention to your surroundings and make sure you're always aware of your phone/wallet/keys/etc.
    I wore a phany pack-like bag across my chest. I also made sure to keep my hands tight around my bag when in very crowded places. I must have looked like a dumbo tourist, but at least I knew where my stuff was at all times without having to check every so often.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rome was the worst place I visited in Italy. I spent 4 days there and wish I'd settled for 2. Florence and Venice live up to the hype, especially if you visit outside of the peak season. Bologna was my personal favorite place. Not as overtouristed as the other cities, but it has a very lively medieval atmosphere. The towers lurching over the city make it extremely unique.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm from Bologna, glad you had a good time here. When did you visit, and why didn't you like Rome?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I visited last year in June, while a lot of people still weren't traveling due to covid paranoia. Rome felt like a soulless city that's living solely off its reputation of what it was thousands of years ago. There are old monuments here and there, but it felt like trudging through a boring mess of streets and garbage oriented towards clueless tourists just to move to the next interesting place.

        Bologna was absolute soul. Even empty streets with absolutely nothing around were uniquely beautiful and I loved the dedication to preserving the city's atmosphere.

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venice is shit now, go to Liguria instead

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