Part of me suspects Redditors and the meme South African suit-wearing autist are right and it's going to suck
Is it? Or is it actually not going to be that bad? I just wanna eat fangbiarmiar and drink buyjoe in my forth floor tiny apartment in (relative) peace
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As long as you can avoid the politics, ignore the smell, and tune out the noise, China is a perfectly fine destination. You wouldn't want to live or work there, but for a holiday, it's fine.
I am going to work there tho
RIP in piece OP.
Why do all the chinese girls I meet on the apps call me good boy when I talk dirty to them? I love it
What's a good tantan opening line? Do usual ilnes I would use in English work but google translated or is there some kind of secret to this? I am getting matches but they just say "hello" or "what are you doing" then never reply or ghost after a day.
> I am getting matches but they just say "hello" or "what are you doing" then never reply or ghost after a day.
So you mean they're just like women on dating apps anywhere?
It's your job to keep them entertained moron.
>"but I'm not a clown!"
Then they will talk with one of the 100s of male matches who will. FemaLes get to choose who they date, not you.
>good boy
i just fricked the absolute shit out of a beijing prostitute and she told me I am a good boy and that I'm "gentle". Jesus what are China chads doing to these b***hes??
I have no idea wtf you're talking about. I lived in China for years and banged tons of women. No one has ever called me a "good boy". So I'm just going to assume you're a larping homosexual like 90% of posters here are.
It probably means she has a "good boy" inside of her. You're the type of cuck who wears a condom, so they don't get to have your seed
>admits to never being called a good boy
>larps that he has sex
>guai
It's a common term used by all the women I knew and fricked as well.
Look at South Africa now and look at it under apartheid. You didn't need Jurassic Park style electric fences for home defense under apartheid. Fricking nig.
In my 20s, I used to pop Chinese viagra and have my way with chicks all night. They loved it.
What's a good app for casual sex?
Just go up to a girl an ask her for her wechat. Then tell her she's beautiful and then leave. Message her later.
China is fun unless you vote for Biden.
You say 'going back' so I assume you have lived there before yeah? Obviously then you know better than to listen to Serp/Laowhy. As far as Reddit goes it seems most of the people who stayed thru covid are back to being content with living there. IMO the reality is even in being back to normal, covid was a real dealbreaker for most because it confirmed China has not moved on from the potential for that kind of insanity and you therefore have to be somewhat nuts to consider putting long term roots there. Add on the fact that the return to 'normal' is purely regarding domestic daily life. There's still very few flights between China/US, diplomatic tensions appear to still be high, and Chinese themselves are having heightened difficulty getting even tourist visas for travel to the West while demand is at an ATH. Point being the 'return to normal' is obviously tenuous and the vast majority of 1st world laowai have left. If you're a single guy then it's a no brainer that you SHOULD go back since it's a great place to be and the potential for instability isn't a big deal for you. Things get bad again you can leave with 12hrs planning. OTOH if you're thinking of going back to pick up local wife, dog, kids, etc, I don't think the situation has rebounded enough for that.
Since (most) all the 1st world tims have left AND all the locals want to leave, it's probably the best time in a couple decades to be plowing thru Rainies.
Sounds about right. Though it has to be said that China after Covid is not the same country as before. Things have gotten more authoritarian, the government is increasingly tightening the leash. Probably in preparation of the conflict with the US.
There won’t be conflict with the US but they definitely don’t want the Chinese people move too often out of the country.
According to a relative living there, the no. 1 subject in China (at least a few months ago) is moving money to the West as many Chinese are trying to do it in one way or another. Of course, they are blaming the US for that, as usual.
I have been there in May. Daily life is no hassle, although it’s almost entirely cashless. The mood has changed, a lot of people are less nationalistic (not everyone, keep that in mind), especially after the drastic lockdowns. There are more and more questionings especially among the young educated urbanites.
But racism has also gone stronger, I have reports that some people actively avoided white people in the same space as them, out of fear of getting whatever disease from whitey. It doesn’t happen all the time, but don’t act surprised if it does happen.
Country is in a weird situation right now.
>But racism has also gone stronger, I have reports that some people actively avoided white people in the same space as them, out of fear of getting whatever disease from whitey. It doesn’t happen all the time, but don’t act surprised if it does happen.
The sounds grim. Will I have a shitty time as a tourist there? I was thinking of visiting some cities where there's barely any foreigners.
I don’t think you will have a very shitty time but don’t act too surprised.
Just swallow it and move on, it’s not like you live there anyway.
Like a taxi driver that might panic if you sit next to him.
I've never heard or seen any of that made up bs
You wouldn't have an issue. Your friend probably didn't have a return ticket or didn't have an itinerary or didn't fill out the arrival card correctly.
does this double for hong kong? taking my first trip to asia soon and was considering a stop
There is zero reason to be even slightly hesitant about traveling as a tourist to Hong Kong or Mainland China. And even China I am only saying to be hesitant about living there if you have/intend to develop local family ie wife/kids.
Hong Kong was in some regards more insane than Mainland about covid but that's all over with. City isn't what it used to be but you won't notice that as a short term visitor.
unless you were captured in photographs of the umbrella protests there is no reason to worry about anything to do with hong kong.
No~~ You can't play with Rainy. She is a traditionur girl~
I think I can have a try
Winston just put up a new "gutter oil" video lol.
Sort of Groundhog Day on his channel, really.
I just went back to China for close to a month, used to live there but I had some loose ends I needed to tie up, and I basically agree with this post.
Before 2019 there was at least a glimmer of hope that foreigners could make roots in china, but during covid China basically gave a huge middle finger to every foreigner who chose to live there. Even though you can go back now, if you try and settle though there's no telling if the CCP will start banning foreigners again.
In terms of daily life, if you can speak chinese, have a wechat, and a chinese bank account and phone number it's relatively easy, though the main problem is that fact that foreigners cant get 身份证 (chinese id) and lot of things which make life easier in china, like pc cafes, bike apps, even buying train tickets a huge pain in the ass.
And don't even get me fricking started on train tickets, it's a huge pain in the ass because everyone and their mom is traveling during the summer, there are simply not enough high speed trains to deal with 1.4 billion chinese and the workers dont give a frick. In tourist spots nowadays too there are crowds of thousands of chinese at any given moment, and it takes hours to even walk anywhere.
>it's probably the best time in a couple decades to be plowing thru Rainies
Yeah I dont think this is true anymore, I had lot of rich local friends that I went clubbing with, even in places with little to no foreigners and no one really gave a frick, it doesnt really mean that much anymore, chinese in chinese style clubs hang with their own group and play that gay hand game for hours on end, though if you're handsome and tall you can get laid anywhere really.
>pc cafes
Why? You go to a foreign country to waste time playing LoL and simping?
>bike apps, even buying train tickets
Definitely not true, your moronic
No chance
You have no idea how much of an impact the revolution really had if you don't get it.
Yes its true lol
most ebike apps need your shenfenzheng, i had to get my chinese friend to give me his.
哈罗 美团 滴滴 bikes apps all need shenfenzheng, some of them even require facial verification, this is a literal fact lol
for train tickets it depends, but i mostly use ctrip 去哪儿 (like what most chinese use), maybe 12106 is better but i havent used it in a while
unless you book a few days in advance you are literally competing with at least 10 other people for train seats, alot of the time your booking will straight up fall through or get canceled and you have to rebook
feel free to prove me wrong but its a literal fact lol
I used Chinese ID for didi but apparently it's possible to use passport, meituan can use passport, and never used the other one. Alipay also doesn't need Chinese ID and you can use ebikes. I also use trip.com (not Chinese version) and never had any problem with trains at all ever so idk what you're talking about.
there is no reason not to go. i am organising going back after having to leave due to coof-visa issues. all unmarried white friends i had while there have left, a lot of married to chinese friends have left too.
worst comes to worst one can just leave.
>Part of me suspects Redditors and the meme South African suit-wearing autist
huh?
I'd really like to go for just a generic Beijing, Xi'an, Shanghai tour, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea:
- Multiple of my direct relatives have spent the last few decades working in the intelligence services of our western country (they are banned from travelling to a long list of countries by our government because of the risk). There seems to be big leaks from "allied" country services every other year so its likely the CCP has their names somewhere on a long list of foreign agents
- In the past I had the government security clearance for work but not at the moment
- I also spent the last few years shit posting anti communist, anti xi and wuhan flu stuff online, anonymously ofc, but I absolutely can't take my normal electronics
- I had a friend who got detained and questioned for 4 hours at the airport when arriving to China before they let him go, but it was more related to the shitposting point than the other ones I said
Would it be suicide bros? I don't wanna be held up for years as some pawn to get some fricking sanctions lifted or whatever
I spent years shitting on this country on this site but never had issue going there (I have relatives working there). However I do not have social media. I think it’s better not to be a little too vocal on social media.
I don't think you would have a problem with being an anti china shitposter, I DO however think that your contacts and your previous contact with you gov heightens your risk (again, it's only a low probability) very much.
I wouldn't, but I'm too cautious as a traveller.
This is bullshit. I was shit posting anti-china a shit load of times and nothing happens. Just don't post on wechat.
Ironically now I mostly shit post America. I went back during COVID and holy shit was it a shithole. A rude awakening.
>In the past I had the government security clearance for work but not at the moment
Is it top secret? The only time my buddy had an issue was when he went to Russia. He was interviewed for hours and that's all, he had a top secret. If it's basic b***h secret, which I have, I've never had an issue.
> also spent the last few years shit posting anti communist, anti xi and wuhan flu stuff online, anonymously ofc, but I absolutely can't take my normal electronics
they don't care if it's not on Chinese platforms. if you have a lot of subscribers as well then maybe, but if you're some nobody they won't care.
Brother knew a colleague who went to china to visit her dying mother and allegedly got turned back by customs due to social media posts about buddhism. Frick them but if you really want to go and you've got anything remotely controversial online linked to your name I'd be cautious.
Dude is a pro-apartheid piece of shit. Yeah, I'd def believe a racist WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN who self-admittedly only wears a suit in order to "seem respectable"
China is one of the best countries on earth
Apartheid was good, deal with it.
He is based. Keeps normies and boomers out of China. Imagine if Japan had such a guy. I can only dream of it.
All depends on your attitude.
Since there is no China general thread and I don't feel like making one, I'll say this here. I'm going to head there soon for 3 months and looking at flights now.
The cheapest flight from Europe is 36 hours total with a 16 hour layover in Chonqing (only like 100€ cheaper mind you) and I'm pretty fricking tempted to take it purely for the meme and to use that time to explore the city and eat food since they allows 120 hour visa free there. I've done the 16 hour layover = free holiday meta before successfully in Rome and Istanbul and I had a crazy experience getting a taste of a new place both times and it was way cheaper so it was a win-win.
Tell me, is Chongqing good? Will I die without insurance or not make it from the airport to the city and be stuck there with nothing to do like a moron? It'll also be 5am when I arrive there so has potential to either be hell for logistics or kino.
I've done city visits in China with that visa free transfer many times before. Chongqing isn't Rome, there should be at least some life at 5am. I'm lazy to look it up for you, but if it's actually landing at 5am it's gonna be like 5.30am the earliest that you get out. Taxis are probably there already, they tend to be happy to jump on the opportunity of no running public transport yet. The metro probably starts running somewhere between 6 and 7, so that's also not a terribly long waiting time imo.
I personally have to set several alarms to make sure I get back to the airport on time, but it always worked so far.
Even when I had 8 hrs I still did the visa free transfer once. They rolled their eyes at the border.
>Seriously, dude, wtf do you want to do during those few hours?
I told them I wanted to eat noodles. Then they gave me the sticker. lol
So I would say it's worth it even if it's just to grab some food.
Then again I don't get what you mean with the visa free thing? You do know your destination has to be a third country, right? Just asking cause you don't mention the 3rd country you're actually going to.
I haven't done the visa free thing since Covid times, so take this with a grain of salt. Back then I had to ignore the immigration paper they handed out on the flight. That was not the one. The transfer visa paper was only available on the ground, had to hunt it down at every airport and fill it in there. (Maybe it's online since? Idk)
It was an absolute must to have my whole trip printed out on A/4 paper before boarding my first flight of the entire trip (unless it's all with the same airline, if it's all Air China anyway they won't be buttholes). Many of the European check in agents had zero clue about the transfer visa agreements with China. For many I was the first white person whom they had to check in without a tourist visa to China. Maybe they are more used to this since, but be ready to explain this visa to people.
The Chinese knew it.
Oh, my final destination is Shanghai, so maybe I wouldn't be able to leave then since it's not a separate visa thing. I have my visa so in theory I can just use that as the entry as the second leg is a domestic flight, but I don't want it to cause problems later say if they think I'm now registered as living on the other side of the country... Oh holy shit no. I just checked this site that calculates it for you and if I take the visa free paper then I can only leave FROM chongqing as well. https://www.chinahighlights.com/chongqing/visa-free-travel.htm Weirdly it says I'm not entitled if I say I'm leaving the same day but I am if I leave the next day, but I think that might be a bug. It's also not China air but another Chinese one the whole way.
Funny transit visa is out of the question then, only question is whether I can stamp in with my single entry visa in Chongqing and then not confuse the shit out of border agents when I arrive in Shanghai, or even worse being denied because of some moronic reason. (>You already stamp in ChongQing so you go back book new flight!)
That's a funny story about the noodles. That's basically exactly what I would want to do- might as well get to experience the local Sichuan cuisine without having to actually pay a ticket to go there. I personally enjoy just walking around with absolutely no obligations, even better if there is almost nobody else around.
Thank you for the tip also, at least I'll have a quest in mind to search out the funni paper if I go that route. The A4 printed thing seems intimidating though, I had no idea about that but at worst I'll tell them that nobody told me.
This doesnt make any sense. If you already have a visa you can enter wherever you want and then fly to Shanghai domestically. There's no such thing as 'now registered as living on the other side of the country' just because you stopped there for a day or two. Do you think you can't travel domestically in China?
Yeah, dude, if you have a visa, you have a visa, end of. Forget my notes about the visa problems, you will have zero problems whatsoever, because you have a Chinese visa in your passport already. DO take the paper that they distribute during the flight, then. Although you find the same on the ground, too, if you forget to take it.
>I have a national visa for a specific city
lmao
What's the work situation like in China for foreigners without a degree?
pretty dog shit im sure, i have alot of western friends that graduated from decent chinese universities and they all said it was really hard to find a job.
Main issue are visas, they got alot stricter so you need a masters or a bachelors with two years work experience.
Granted for english teaching I assume it's somewhat easier, but you still need a degree, or you could not give a frick and go in on a tourist visa but then your company has you by the balls
like other anon said, without degree you are outright ineligible for a work permit unless teaching English - OR if you have decade+ experience in a technical field and have relevant certs, company vouching for your necessity, etc
Any Sinophiles ITT?
Usually in most civilizations like the UK or Japan or whatever you can sketch a line of continuity from centuries ago to the modern day, and it feels deep down like the same place. But when I look at old, old China that specialized in porcelain, lacquerware, penjing, martial arts, literature scenes (with commentators) and had a ridiculously advanced sense of aesthetics it feels like a totally different culture used to exist and modern China was built on top of it, just like Mexico City on Tenochtitlan. Ancient China seemed particularly spiritual, while modern Chinese seem heavily materialistic. I know about Cultural Revolution, etc. but the idea the whole country's spirit could change in a few years is just insane and makes no sense
The "oldest continuous civilization" was always a larp. You get much more continuity is the Chinese countries/communities outside of the mainland than you will ever get from anything ever touched by a communistshit
Places always change of course but it's weird how China now is crazy about being Han but actual beliefs the Han had, art they made, religions they believed in etc. are all rejected, only embraced sometimes as symbols to prove how great modern China is, the whole thing feels really ironic and paradoxical
communists discovered superficial nationalism is a great distraction from all the other problems they cause
Wtf are you talking about? Aside from religion it's all still quite strong. Religion was bound to become irrelevant anyways as countries develope
Yes, it's called the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution that completely ruined Chinese culture. Thanks, Chairman Mao.
China is an artificial country. It should be called the "Chinese union".
Because Chinese history is a lie and made up. Europeans got to Taiwan before they did. Chinese culture was always backwards and primitive.
Chinese also sounded closer to Malay than it currently does.
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Shanghai and Hangzhou were amazing and I would go back again, but I don't think I'd live there.
>Fanbiarmiar and buyjoe
your chinese is atrocious
Woe jungwhenz hun how nuh
Good news, I was able to add my visa debit card to alipay and use that to pay for a hotel on trip via alipay scan.
Where am I supposed to channel my inner fempat now that Element Fresh is closed?
I can't eat aMaZiNg DuMpLiNgS every day
>Where am I supposed to channel my inner fempat
Reddit
Show us your breasts on the way out
Wagas is still open.
OP, you worry too much. Just put on you Winnie the Pooh shirt and get on the plane!
You are going to see such sights! -KEK!
Advice for someone going to China for the first time (from the U.S.)? I have no idea what I'm doing or where to even begin. I've been to Europe, but that's a lot different, I would think.
Where in China are you going and what are you interested in/looking to get out of the trip?
eat lots of yummy food and never trust strangers for directions
Go to the Jiankou Great wall. Directions are online. It's the original great wall and at least when I went wasn't touristy. My buddies and I slept up there for the night. Make sure you can call a taxi to pick you up after the hike down too.
Xi'an and Chengdu are amazing places.
OP just don't date the first girl that lets you smash. Stay single and keep talking to girls.
When you arrive and you're new there, one will try to snatch you up and lock you down.
Don't fall for that shit. Never say you are there boyfriend. Keep it vague.
Not very proud of this but I went to a massage parlor drunk on Baijiu in Shenzhen. The place was open until 10:00pm. I asked for an oil massage. In walks a very attractive MILF in her 30s. The massage went on like normal, we spoke a little bit but mostly silent. During the massage she kept touching my body hair and laughing. I guess she's never seen blond body hair before. At the end of the massage she wanted to massage my stomach. She again grabbed the hair on my stomach and giggled. I was drunk enough to just pull down my underpants to show her all my other hair (and dick). She instantly gasped and grabbed my dick. She literally couldn't help herself. She played with it a lot then I asked for a hand job, which she gladly gave. She kept pointing at it and saying "Chinese one so small about half your size" in Chinese. After I finished so slowly played with it probably out of curiosity. She wouldn't get naked since it was a legit place. She gave me her wechat afterward and never asked for money. I think I'll meet up with her tomorrow. I just hope she doesn't have a husband or anything.
Thinking back now that could've gone very wrong.
Thats a rub and tug you idiot. The reason she didn't take off her clothes is cause it costs extra.
Usually a handjob costs extra too. This one did not and she was super excited to see it. She even made me move out of the way of the door peephole view.
I love China.
I'm not a huge expert but the few times I went the hand job is a minimum. Blowjob, clothes off or full sex costs extra. Usually the shower you clothes off. Sometimes the girl will blow me as a little extra.
at a legit massage parlor a handjob is a minimum? um no
I'm going to go back OP and I think you should too , it's a better life , that's just the truth .
I regret leaving to be honest , but i fell for the fake videos of people dying in the street from covid when the whole thing first got everyone panicked ( Remember that ? )
Work 20 Hours a week and make enough to put you in the top 25% of the city playing English games with kids or helping some high schooler who is basically already fluent prepare for the college entrance exam , what a dream .
On top of having both time and money , you will come off as exotic to locals , and if you like attention , like i do , you will have a great time taking photos with random people and answering questions about why American's don't have that kind of fruit where they live .
I don't want a hard life , and i don't want to continue to stick around for America's own cultural revolution and the fall of the dollar .
I am willing to breath in polluted air almost daily and eat questionable food to have a smiling girl hanging on my arm who talks about how she loves her parents wants me to meet them someday as we walk to the park to have tea , all the while bettering myself by learning a language .
You won't need to drive a car and you won't need to be subjected to advertisements in English .
I don't even fear the police when i am there . I use my VPN to browse the real internet and the only people i know to have ran into trouble with the law have been the most egregious offenders who openly slander the government there .
It's not like there isn't a certain group of people above criticism here in the United States either .
I stayed during the entire pandemic. Only border towns and Shanghai had serious problems during the pandemic. Everywhere else was normal for what you'd expect (weekly swab tests) in an authoritarian country until end of last year. Pollution isn't bad anymore, last couple years only pollution in Beijing was the sandstorms. I've never had an issue with food except for McDs but that's normal when I lived in the US anyway. I'm not a teacher but rest is accurate. I have a higher standard of living. I've also been to sk and Japan and prefer China still. Japan is too socially conservative and restrictive. Korea is not bad but no one cares you're a foreigner and there's little less variety in everything compared to China. Sk life is better if you have more money imo but I can see if one were to get tired of it there. I'd still like to visit Singapore and sea countries for more comparison but so far I'm most comfy in China.
would you consider singapore?
I haven't been yet but on paper seems nice, along with friends who moved there say it's comfy. My only hesitation is that I've heard it's expensive.
the real redpill that people absolutely refuse to accept is that china is actually a great place to live these days as long as you aren't in T88 Nongzhou
>only border towns and Shanghai had problems
Absolute BS. Nearly every major city in China had rolling mass lockdowns throughout 2022. Some of the more severe ones of the top of my head: Beijing, Shenzhen, Xian, Chengdu, Dalian, Changchun, Harbin, Urmuqi
And that is a very non-exhaustive list. Basically every city in China from T3 up was locked down for some duration.
>t. also in China for all of pandemic
Well yeah end of last year was the clusterfrick. All these cities had couple weeks when certain communities were infected before the mass infections later in the year.
I wanna coom in china but it seems a little intimidating
I'm kinda concerned with language issues since I am shit with hearing though I do a pretty good scuffed-simplified English.
biggest problem with cooming in china is the hotel/apartment situation
it used to be that they could be pretty relaxed about the situation outside of beijing, but I am guessing that changed substantially because of covid
relaxed being, there were always rules, but they would just ignore it sometimes.
there are technically only certain hotels foreigners are allowed to stay at, they must be registered with the government. they track where you are, every night. ifyou double register, there's a flag in the system and they will reject one or the other
It's funny cuz back in 2010 he was riding around town on his chink scooter making a video trying to disprove the prevelance of gutter oil.
Is there no China General here?
I might visit Shanghai for some business, I have no idea what to expect.
My main concern is about food poisoning. I have a bit sensitive stomach and in general I did not have any problems so far on my travels, I did hear some horror stories on China.
Where to eat and how to avoid these problems?
Is there anything out of top10 things to see , that you would recommend?
Any recommendations on sim card/pocket wifi for a week? good price/performance
Is China really worth visiting? It seems like too much hassle to deal with the moronic hostile CCP. Only been to Jiangsu/Zhejiang/Shanghai. China just seems like a giant depressing prison.
Hi CIA. Your posting technique sucks. China is great. Much better than tourism in the US.