Am I the only one who is scared of planes ?
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Am I the only one who is scared of planes ?
Am I the only one who is scared of planes ?
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You should. They were programmed by $7 A DAY programmers in a location I will be banned for saying.
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India
Right, that's why every day thousands of them fall from the sky.
Boeing Super Max 737 had to change its name since it was dropping out of the sky constantly. Another Boeing had its auto pilot turn off due to a software bug. So yes, it’s happening and yes it’s not normal. The execs who made the Super Max won’t allow their families to fly on it.
Frick off shill
>Dropping out of the sky constantly
Two flights from two shithole countries with dogshit pilot training
>Auto pilot turned off
Literally what the human pilots are there for
>The execs who made the Super Max won’t allow their families to fly on it
Conspiracy theory trash
Christ
> Evidence retrieved on the crash site suggests, that at the time of the crash, the aircraft was configured to dive, similar to Lion Air Flight 610.
> the crew "performed all the procedures repeatedly provided by the manufacturer but was not able to control the aircraft."
> The updates proposed by Boeing focus mostly on MCAS software.
Sirs? Our response?
Anyone who thinks the Ethiopian or Indonesian planes "dove into the ground right after takeoff" is either unironically a shill or a complete fricking moron who has no idea how planes work and just regurgitates headlines. There's a reason that the same exact plane was flying all over the world without incident and the only places where it crashed were shitholes known for their shoddy maintenance and pilot training. 50+ year old standard procedures were not followed, it's as simple as that.
>Can u believe they only used ONE SENSOR?!?!?!?!
Can you believe that there are people out there who don't understand that the entire point of the human pilots in the wienerpit is to...fly the plane??
These statements were from Boeing themselves moron.
Boeing had to go on an absurd damage control program to counteract the abundantly obvious anti-Boeing/anti-US campaign from China during the height of a trade war during the Trump administration. Who was it that called for the grounding of Boeing's newest plane after those crashes? Was it...Ethiopia? No. Was it... Indonesia? No. It was.....a completely unrelated third party known for propaganda campaigns who happens to have their own new plane they're trying to sell to those countries.
It's a bit of column A, bit of column B.
If the pilots had been better trained, they would have gotten to the point where they would have disabled/bypassed the computer troubleshooting the issue (as other, more experienced pilots had done).
HOWEVER. It's a string of frickups by Boeing. They shouldn't have had it rely on a single sensor for what was ultimately a critical input. They didn't document that you could bypass the computer. They shouldn't have had a system that would continually take away control from the pilots without it being obvious what system was doing it and giving it and easy turn off. Lastly it shouldn't have been the case that it would get progressively more extreme in the control it took (went from a slight downward trajectory into repeatedly putting the train in a dive).
Pilots should have done better but they should have never been put in that situation. This shit should have easily happened during a critical manoeuvre and forced the plane into the ground. All because they were rushing to get out a plane to beat a popular Airbus model and they slapped bigger engines onto a plane that wasn't designed for them.
>They didn't document that you could bypass the computer
Technically that was already documented in the stabilizer trim runaway standard procedures which had been around for decades
>They shouldn't have had a system... without it being obvious what system was doing it and giving it and easy turn off
Well since it was a stabilizer trim issue, it would have been the stabilizer trim system, which specifically has a cutoff switch in the center pedestal
>repeatedly putting the train in a dive
Absolutely not true at all. The flight recorder data shows the planes increasing in altitude until the final dives; there's a huge difference between adding "nose down" trim and physically pointing the nose down. The morons let the planes overspeed at low altitude while yanking back on the control column, and when the aerodynamic forces on the control surfaces overcame their pulling they finally pitched over. Imagine not disconnecting the autothrottle, set at takeoff thrust, when your airliner starts having a trim runaway - and then imagine blaming that utterly incompetent piloting on the people who made the plane instead of the people flying it.
lol i love it when someone mentions the 737max frickup on here and there's that one boeing damage limitation guy who gets dogwhistled into blaming everything and everyone except the fricking shitty plane
Boeing shills from kolkata work harder here than on Visual studio code
Yeah I find it exceptionally strange that whenever there's something even remotely having to do with planes crashing, someone shows up and regurgitates all the exact same incorrect mainstream media talking points from the news cycle when the 737 MAX crashes happened. Oh and then they all, literally all of them, accuse me of working for Boeing, simply because I point out that what they're saying doesn't line up whatsoever with the official black box data or decades-old standard procedures that every other pilot in the world seems to know about. It's not even that hard to look at the data yourself, but of course someone ignorant enough to end up on the side of a 2nd world airline probably won't look at it anyway.
jesus imagine trying this hard to defend a government backed corporation
they fricked up dude. they admitted it and paid the price. hopefully they won't do it again
It's not about defending the corporation, Boeing will be fine whether or not a bunch of morons misunderstand aviation. The issue I have is that people just watch one terrible video about something on Vox and then start parroting the most absurd, misinformed bullshit. It's really not that hard to do your own research but this type of person seems incapable of it, and they're out in the world making real decisions and impacting each other's lives. I just want grown ass adults to be informed.
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7296429/Boeing-737-crashes-Ex-engineer-blames-lack-resources-manufacturing.html
>Conspiracy theory trash
kek get btfo
>"Boeing forced to store grounded 737 Max jets in staff car park as it works to fix software glitch that caused two deadly crashes"
>https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-7189501/amp/Boeing-forced-store-grounded-737-Max-jets-staff-car-park.html?ico=amp_articleRelated_with_images
Only if it's a Boeing plane
I'm not scared of planes, I'm scared of fricking up in airports.
Showing up too late and not making it through check in/customs and missing the plane, saying something wrong and getting questioned by security, never finding my gate.
This tbh. I'm going to try to go to Japan next year, it'll be my first time on a plane, but I'm far more worried that I will be held by the TSA for 3 hours because I'm on 16 watchlists for schizoposting about the lizard people on /misc/ for fun.
Start saying nice things about the lizard people so that when it comes up they'll give you free access to the sky lounge. Free finger food or free finger up your butt, it's your choice.
I was in the security 55 minutes before my flight left on Sunday at the Albuquerque airport when I realized I left my switch in the rental car. Took the bus back to get it but they had already driven it away to be washed. Couldn’t find it in the lot so two women had to drive and get it. Took the bus back and made it to the plane one minute before the door closed.
>I'm not scared of planes, I'm scared of fricking up in airports.
Spbp
TSA precheck, my dude. You have to be a braindead boomer to not understand airports. Walk in, drop your bag off if you have a big one big enough to check, walk through security, walk to your gate.
>scared of plane
Only over water, nothing is more fear inducing than pilots saving the plane enough for a water landing then being stuck bobbing in the water as your skin begins to fall off as you wait for no real rescue in time before you drown
Commercial flights over water rarely are so far away from a diversion airport that they couldn't glide from cruise altitude to an actual runway. Even if one did land in the ocean, they're typically flying over heavily traversed shipping lanes
Check the route of Latam Airlines 805 from Santiago to Melbourne.
I'm not scared of flying (I actually enjoy it), but I think I would be terrified on that one.
I'm not an expert and I can't see it on records anywhere but I'm sure there are diversion airports even on those routes. On the flight from Santiago to Melbourne they're within like 100km of Antarctica for a large portion of it, and a more northern route between LA and Tokyo is near Alaska and Russia, or even some islands. Commercial flights are required to carry enough fuel to fly to these airports, and can do it with one engine.
They're within the maximum diversion time for that aircraft type which is 777 ER for that route which has the current maximum allowed of 330 minutes/5.5 hours flight time... They're probably 1000s of miles from any airport on that route.
Idk maybe look at a flight map?
US - Asia flights used to basically always be near land but now have to fly in the middle of the ocean since theyre not allowed to fly over Russia anymore
It was a dumb bug and Boeing should be fined for using jeet programmers but yes over time it became clear there was serious pilot error. Basically if you're going to fly in a MAX make sure you have White or NE Asian male pilots
>NE Asian male pilots
Actually
Japanese or Chinese. Less than ideal but sometimes thats your best choice in Asia
>about to take 16 hour flight from Hong Kong a couple days ago
>plane is taxiing on the runway trying to beat a typhoon with all of the other planes
>notice smoke coming from the right engine on the plane view screen
>plane still slowly making its way down the runway for a few minutes despite this
>plane spools up for takeoff
>stare blankly at the screen
>"whelp might as well play the soundtrack to my death"
>pull out mp3 player
>right as i do this, captain announces that the takeoff is aborted and that engineers are coming to diagnose the problem
>sit in the plane for what feels like an eternity
>captain decides to call off the flight and switch planes
>sleep in the airport with all of the other pissed off passengers that night
>fly out during the typhoon the next day and nothing happens aside from some minor turbulence
Honestly, the only thing I fear when flying at this point is getting assigned a seat near a sick person who spends the entire flight coughing and sneezing or near some person who feels the need to clear their throat or sniff every 2 seconds.
>US - Asia flights used to basically always be near land but now have to fly in the middle of the ocean since theyre not allowed to fly over Russia anymore
I flew over Russia on a flight from the US 2 weeks ago. I distinctly remember seeing Norilsk and Irkutsk on the map.
wtf why did you sit there and say nothing instead of alerting the crew?
NPC deer in headlights syndrome/sleep deprivation and because I assumed that A. The pilots also noticed it and B. Most modern airplanes are able to fly for a while if one engine fails.
I'm always afraid of three things when flying.
1. Getting sick, because it seems to always happen
2. Airlines cancelling my flight, because it would ruin my vacation
3. The plane crashing. But that's usually only when the plane starts shaking or the pilot sounds nervous.
Many flights fly directly over the ocean, especially if you're traveling from the Americas to Asia/Oceana. LA to Tokyo flies right through the middle of the Pacific, like 99% of the flight is directly over ocean with no land for thousands of miles.
Even worse, the cargo freighters will collide with the plane and you'll spill out into the ocean, being eaten by seals
Don't worry, there has never been a case of a passenger plane being forced down over open ocean and anyone surviving. Either the issue wouldn't be so bad that you couldn't reach a diversion airport, or you'll be dead on impact.
I’m not afraid of planes but I hate flying. I’m 6’3 and never comfortable on a plane even when there’s decent legroom. I can’t ever sleep on planes so I sit there bored and uncomfortable for hours and hours.
I think they're pretty aesthetic especially the older ones like the 747. I think the A380 is ugly as frick though, I do like the A350s and A320s though.
scared of planes? like when they're on the ground too?
no, only when they're in the ocean
These guys were dumbasses.
Learning about this fricker makes me nervous during takeoff. I get scared the plane is gonna plow right into another one at takeoff speed and I’m gonna burn to death.
For me it's the japan airlines 123 in 1985
But the WE GAAN still the absolute chad
Pan Am fricking shits gets me every time.
Actual pilot here. Apparently, planes are so powerful and durable that 2 of them can take out 3 steel beam towers, you have nothing to fear.
they are more scared of you
They scare me because a couple years ago the plane I was on was going through storm clouds and it got hit by lightning. I thought something exploded and we were all going to die. Now I'm terrified of flying unless I get wasted in the bar beforehand (which is expensive)
the only things i fear are moderate to severe turbulence, minority pilots, and the attendant not hearing my drink order correctly so i need to shout it over the guy next to me
>and the attendant not hearing my drink order correctly so i need to shout it over the guy next to me
kekd, flying in 3 days, chose the isle seat just to avoid this shit
There are no recorded deaths this century from a plane bite.
Short flights are OK but I hate long ones.
Once a turbine broke with a loud bang and the whole plane was shaking while we were above the ocean.
We had to turn back but it was still OK as the plane was only an hour into the flight. dunno what would've been if this had happened in the middle of the Atlantic or in a storm.
Check Air transat 236 or "Flying on empty"
I hate crowds so I hate major airports. I'm scared of bad maintenance and badly trained pilots, but I trust the engineers.
I remember thanking the Airbus Engineer Gods when flying in SEA and these fricking idiots did full flaps on cruising speed/cruising altitude, in the middle of the flight. I'm glad my belt was on, it felt like driving into a concrete wall.
I have my personal countdown for when shit's gonna go down on the Dreamliners. Apparently many of them still have this problem with the A/C pouring a LOT of water through all sorts of random places around the last passenger rows during take-off. So far it seems it hasn't caused much trouble except destroying electronics of passengers. As time passes and those Dreamliners keep flying, it will be interesting to see what other electronics or other parts of those planes give in because of all that regular water damage.
I wish I could just fly Embraer all the time, I love the Embraer landings so much.
I am scared shitless of when they take off and land is all. Supposedly that is the most dangerous time as well.
don't fear the plane
fear turbulence and bad weather
I am flying to germany next week and I still remember the fricking turbulence that made everyone vomit and think they were gonna die, like the fricking tail of the plane just dropping as it if was out of control
when plane landed in frankfurt the wind was so strong it shut the airplane door back up, and as we waited on the runway you could see other planes struggling to compensate for wind by flying basically 45 degrees to the side so they werent blown off the runway approach vector
trully some experiences are worse than death
>trully some experiences are worse than death
This is well within the plane's operating abilities. The plane isn't going to just drop vertically out of the sky. It feels like it is but it won't. That defies physics. The only thing that's really dangerous is the existence of things like microbursts and tornadoes which occur in the American great plains and hurricanes in tropical areas but planes avoid those.
Only time I was legitimately white-knuckling on a plane from something other than a bit of turbulence was coming in to land in Malaga from Brussels with a brutal crosswind. Pilot had to take 3 fricking tries of slowing down to land then speeding up again before we were finally on the ground.
This reminded me of the time I was flying home from college with my buddy in his 2-seater prop.
The breaks disconnected immediately after takeoff and we drove right off the runway when we landed to refuel.
We spent 3 hours digging the plane out of the February snow before we wrenched it out by tying it to the winch of a pickup someone at the airport let us use.
We refuelled, got back in the plane, and took off.
When we finally got to our destination we cut the throttle and used the full length of the runway for the smoothest landing I've ever had in my life.
>I flew over Russia 2 weeks ago
On what airline
Cathay Pacific BOS-HKG
Chinese airlines will fly over Russia, western ones won't.
Thanks for explaining, it makes sense in that context.
Yes. You are the only one.
you must secretly want to frick flight attendants huh
I'm an Airbus pilot and I'm still scared of flying. Especially on Boeings.
If you’re not scared of Lufthansa already then you should be
You're not the only one, but it's an irrational fear. In terms of fatalities per passenger mile, planes are the safest method of travel, bar none. What you should be scared of is cars. The idea of getting in a personal vehicle and driving to work or the grocery store should terrify you by comparison to taking a plane.
>irrational fear
it isn't
flying is the most unnatural thing a human can experience
still amazed that humans can pull that off
It's irrational in the sense that you're hundreds of times more likely to die in a car but people don't need Xanax to drive to work.
>tfw scared of flying
>next flight is on a Boeing
The risk of a sudden, gruesome, painful death is the price we pay for freedom
there's really nothing to be scared of unless you fly with some shitty african or south east asian airline.