Any other NEET travellers?

Anyone else just living abroad in a cheap country, long-term unemployed?

With a few $k in savings you could live for a year in South America or Asia without having to do anything. The average incomes for many of those countries is around $400 so as someone born in a richer country, you've won the lottery already.

I fantasize about having enough to live off investments passively forever, according to the 4% rule

What do you do all day?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did it for 15 months in Thailand. I honestly recommend no more than 6 months if you’re not working and don’t have any kind of cash flow or a

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      what are the best countries to do this in?

      lowest cost of living, where I can coast for the longest on like $5000 or so, while also having plenty of fun places to explore or things to do?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thailand or Philippines is my only experience. If you had some cunning I’m assuming somewhere like Ethiopia or the Balkan’s could be kino but dyor.

        Were you depressed or mentally healthy?

        I always have some degree of despondency and sadness about the finiteness of life and how no matter what desire you satiate, you will always want something else/more. But the memories and experiences are eternal, and it beats rotting in your room

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          How much savings would you recommend for 6 months in Thailand? What do you do for work that allows you to travel for so long?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would recommend 2k/month minimum. Otherwise don’t bother. At 2k you won’t really worry about money unless you do dumb shit like pop bottles every night and only try to frick gogo girls.
            >work
            It’s an extremely painful subject for me. Basically, I blew through ~60k across two different trips that totaled 22 months. I inherited this money.

            In order to even come close to blowing that amount again, I have to work 60 hours a week overnight as a security guard and keep my spending down to absolutely nothing. In my spare time I play ball blast on my phone and smoke newports on my balcony. The highest luxury I afford myself is a palmeros steak and cheese pizza from Walmart.

            I’ve maxxed out my ira for 2022 and 2023. If I deduct 20% of my paycheck into my Roth 401k, that is another 10k to my Roth IRA (I’m gonna roll it over when I quit my job. ON TOP OF ALL THIS, I’ll have about 20k plus whatever my tax return is for cooming.

            Part of me wonders if I should even go back, or use it for a down payment on an apartment. Life is a b***h

            The worst part is I’ve met dork homosexuals that do 20 hours a week of actual work and make multiple six figures and don’t even have to hide their location from their employers. They live this oblivious, care-free existence all because they can clickity-clack on their homosexual MacBook laptop.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nice, I haven't even gone yet but I'm trying to figure out the best way to spend a decent amount of time there without ruining the rest of my life. But I'm pushing 30 and wasted most of my youth like a neet with no skills so my options are spend the next few years working unskilled jobs just to go coom for months on end or pursue a boring career and not coom very much.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can’t answer that for you, you have to walk your own path and shoulder the psychological burdens of whatever choice you make

                >How much savings would you recommend for 6 months in Thailand? What do you do for work that allows you to travel for so long?
                If you are new to living in Thailand (and SEA in general), aim for at least 2k/month to get started. Once you acclimatize, you can live very well on 1k/month (not including women, drinking in bars, and restaurants aimed at tourists). Obviously you need more than 1k/month because traveling between countries and unexpected expenses will eventually come up, but if you earn 2k/month then you can easily save half your money.
                [...]
                >The worst part is I’ve met dork homosexuals that do 20 hours a week of actual work and make multiple six figures and don’t even have to hide their location from their employers.
                Put the energy you spend on jealousy into a plan to fix your situation. And don't focus on the guys who make six figures for little work - they are a super minority. Most nomads I meet are making 25-75k/year. You only need an entry-level remote job to move to SEA (or your developing region of choice) and upgrade your life.

                I honestly don’t think there is any “”””””entry level””””” remote job. When I’ve perused any remote work job board it’s always FLOODED with Java react node script full stack etc and NOTHING THE FRICK ELSE.

                Give me a job title of one of these fantastic “”””entry level jobs””” that can be done remotely.

                >You only need an entry-level remote job to move to SEA (or your developing region of choice) and upgrade your life.
                This is what I want to do but I'm overwhelmed by trying to figure out how to get one of these jobs. The hardest part is finding out which jobs would be digital nomad-able in terms of getting permission from the employer to work overseas, not just remotely. It seems like the only clearcut way to becoming a digital nomad is being very skilled at something or be a freelancer.

                You’re never gonna get the permission. You have to either research how to jerry-rig your router to spoof a vpn somewhere else or find someone/pay some IT dork to show you how to do it.

                Unless you’re a 1% giga dorker, nobody’s letting you work overseas. You don’t have leverage at all,

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >””””entry level””””” remote job. When I’ve perused any remote work job board it’s always FLOODED with Java react node script full stack etc and NOTHING THE FRICK ELSE.
                If YouTube and Reddit are to be believed, there's lots of customer service oriented remote work. Also IT which is less dork intensive than coding. But I can't figure out how readily available these jobs actually are. It seems like all the dorks on r/digitalnomad just got that lifestyle because fate guided them into it. They can tell you the path they took to get there but there's probably a large amount of luck, being a dork, and having normal parents who herded you properly into the corporate cuck assembly line (college) to get there.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Give me a job title of one of these fantastic “”””entry level jobs””” that can be done remotely.
                Here, although I know you'll just complain, point at some of the fake listings, and do nothing to improve your situation:
                https://www.indeed.com/l-remote-jobs.html?vjk=b587af0beee42427

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                *sigh*

                >If you are unhappy in your job and/or want to break into a new industry, then apply widely and take the best offer you get. Maybe you'll find one that allows/expects remote work, and you'll at least get experience to make getting a remote job easier
                That's what I want to do, but getting a remote job and getting a digital nomad job are two completely different things. I can't figure out if getting the latter is mostly luck for people who aren't intelligent enough to have extremely valuable skills. It doesn't seem like there's an abundance of mid tier nomad friendly jobs.

                I think only the giga dorkers can actually leverage their skills and demand to be location independent. Failing that, you have to be tech savvy enough to spoof your internet so that whatever homosexual network you log into on your job doesn’t recognize that you’re not where you should be. The dorks I chilled with kept mentioning mango

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How much savings would you recommend for 6 months in Thailand? What do you do for work that allows you to travel for so long?
            If you are new to living in Thailand (and SEA in general), aim for at least 2k/month to get started. Once you acclimatize, you can live very well on 1k/month (not including women, drinking in bars, and restaurants aimed at tourists). Obviously you need more than 1k/month because traveling between countries and unexpected expenses will eventually come up, but if you earn 2k/month then you can easily save half your money.

            https://i.imgur.com/CQcYe4D.jpg

            I would recommend 2k/month minimum. Otherwise don’t bother. At 2k you won’t really worry about money unless you do dumb shit like pop bottles every night and only try to frick gogo girls.
            >work
            It’s an extremely painful subject for me. Basically, I blew through ~60k across two different trips that totaled 22 months. I inherited this money.

            In order to even come close to blowing that amount again, I have to work 60 hours a week overnight as a security guard and keep my spending down to absolutely nothing. In my spare time I play ball blast on my phone and smoke newports on my balcony. The highest luxury I afford myself is a palmeros steak and cheese pizza from Walmart.

            I’ve maxxed out my ira for 2022 and 2023. If I deduct 20% of my paycheck into my Roth 401k, that is another 10k to my Roth IRA (I’m gonna roll it over when I quit my job. ON TOP OF ALL THIS, I’ll have about 20k plus whatever my tax return is for cooming.

            Part of me wonders if I should even go back, or use it for a down payment on an apartment. Life is a b***h

            The worst part is I’ve met dork homosexuals that do 20 hours a week of actual work and make multiple six figures and don’t even have to hide their location from their employers. They live this oblivious, care-free existence all because they can clickity-clack on their homosexual MacBook laptop.

            >The worst part is I’ve met dork homosexuals that do 20 hours a week of actual work and make multiple six figures and don’t even have to hide their location from their employers.
            Put the energy you spend on jealousy into a plan to fix your situation. And don't focus on the guys who make six figures for little work - they are a super minority. Most nomads I meet are making 25-75k/year. You only need an entry-level remote job to move to SEA (or your developing region of choice) and upgrade your life.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You only need an entry-level remote job to move to SEA (or your developing region of choice) and upgrade your life.
              This is what I want to do but I'm overwhelmed by trying to figure out how to get one of these jobs. The hardest part is finding out which jobs would be digital nomad-able in terms of getting permission from the employer to work overseas, not just remotely. It seems like the only clearcut way to becoming a digital nomad is being very skilled at something or be a freelancer.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                General advice: If you already have a job in the industry you want and you're otherwise okay with, then contact some recruiters and tell them you want full-time remote work. If you are unhappy in your job and/or want to break into a new industry, then apply widely and take the best offer you get. Maybe you'll find one that allows/expects remote work, and you'll at least get experience to make getting a remote job easier.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you are unhappy in your job and/or want to break into a new industry, then apply widely and take the best offer you get. Maybe you'll find one that allows/expects remote work, and you'll at least get experience to make getting a remote job easier
                That's what I want to do, but getting a remote job and getting a digital nomad job are two completely different things. I can't figure out if getting the latter is mostly luck for people who aren't intelligent enough to have extremely valuable skills. It doesn't seem like there's an abundance of mid tier nomad friendly jobs.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Try (not too hard) to desire not to desire, my friend.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            GOOD MORNING SIRS!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Were you depressed or mentally healthy?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >15 months
      How? Did you just do monthly visa runs?

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did/ do this.
    Many counties have become so expensive that it's worth leaving periodically just to buy clothes, get dental work done, go to the gym, eat propperly etc.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't the cost of your flights take away any savings?

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    this will be me pretty soon i think, i am a photography c**t so i guess i would just do that
    the whole le epic digital nomad shit but broke as frick
    i also love a bit of backpacking and my kit is already pretty sorted so id be pretty alright being semi homeless suplementing it with a place to stay every couple of days
    i think this kind of thing i just have to go and try it, maybe it's a shit idea. but if i dont do it ill always wonder
    anyone else up for a poorly planned broke moron adventure? even just for a few weeks to feel it out
    i have traveled a decent ammount and i always end up taking the cheapest options, walking a lot, sleeping in my tent a lot. i quite like it. but i think i want to try it for a little longer,
    as an EU gay, i end up spending not much on flights but then too much on normal shit like food and airbnbs. i think its time for me to spend more on flights to get somewhere where everything is cheaper
    bonus points for somewhere full of cute whiten't girls to be in my photographs. people might click on them then

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m doing the same thing in Japan and as a musician. Japan probably seems like a dumb choice but there’s very cheap options for everything there if you’re willing to sacrifice some glamour.
      Total shot in the dark but if you want to do some kind of art collective thing in September it’d be cool to find a few people and go in on a big trad Japanese house out in the burbs.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It sounds like something I'd be down for but that's way too soon for me to comfortably afford the 1k in flights
        But yeah frick glamour
        Gods speed anon. I have to get some more savings before I consider jp

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah hi. I used to work sometimes and othertimes used men to support me, both made me miserable but I'm kinda back to the latter until I have enough to start a business and invest, I just want passive income.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you’re a woman (or man I guess) who did sugar dating I take it? Want to unpack that?

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was unemployed for 12 months (by choice, I was in "frick wage slavery" mode at the time) and lived in Colombia for three months on less than $500 USD/month, including about 16 intercity bus fares.
    The problem is "not having to do anything" becomes "not doing anything". Unless you are socially outgoing and enjoy spending hours chatting up and bullshitting with idle locals, you end up laying in bed in your cheap rental 16 hours a day, eating cheap junk food, and walking aimlessly about the city vainly hoping for something that would break you out of your low-energy depressive boredom. If you are living in a country with streets full of laughter, sociability, and cute girls, your awkward solitude becomes ever more painful. Eventually you go out and treat yourself to something, but then you return to your rental even more miserable as another bite has been taken out of your shrinking travel fund. Existential questions begin to plague your mind: "why the frick am I even living, just to eat, shit and sleep?" Funnily enough, I ended up returning to the job I quit, rebuilt my relationships, and am now enjoying a happy working life with five months off a year to NEET in a foreign country of my choice with a fat pile of savings.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >to the job I quit, rebuilt my relationships, and am now enjoying a happy working life with five months off a year
      What do you do for work

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I went through all of this and the solution is hookers. If you go out with hookers, you’ll encounter other hookers with other dudes. That’s how I met decent people that I hung out with once in awhile.

      Money is the great social lubricant

      Also what is your FRICKING JOB that lets you travel 5 months a year? SPEAK

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can also share my experience doing smth similar in a beach town in Mexico, age 23. Stayed for 6 months, then traveled around for a while. I had plenty of friends, social life, fun things to do, lived off about $750-800 per month, had my own motorcycle... It's easy to see that time period as reveling in my youthful freedom, but when I look back on my journal from that time, it's nothing but 'why am I doing nothing all day' and 'I desperately wish I had something to do, to work on, something that means more than chasing whatever whims I have'. I wanted to wake up and know what I was gonna do that day, instead of have to fill my time with random shit. Was basically retired and living in a dream, but completely unfulfilled and utterly bored. Wish I could tell ya ive figured it out since then, but I haven't.

        I was unemployed for 12 months (by choice, I was in "frick wage slavery" mode at the time) and lived in Colombia for three months on less than $500 USD/month, including about 16 intercity bus fares.
        The problem is "not having to do anything" becomes "not doing anything". Unless you are socially outgoing and enjoy spending hours chatting up and bullshitting with idle locals, you end up laying in bed in your cheap rental 16 hours a day, eating cheap junk food, and walking aimlessly about the city vainly hoping for something that would break you out of your low-energy depressive boredom. If you are living in a country with streets full of laughter, sociability, and cute girls, your awkward solitude becomes ever more painful. Eventually you go out and treat yourself to something, but then you return to your rental even more miserable as another bite has been taken out of your shrinking travel fund. Existential questions begin to plague your mind: "why the frick am I even living, just to eat, shit and sleep?" Funnily enough, I ended up returning to the job I quit, rebuilt my relationships, and am now enjoying a happy working life with five months off a year to NEET in a foreign country of my choice with a fat pile of savings.

        https://i.imgur.com/3G8OkmG.png

        Anyone else just living abroad in a cheap country, long-term unemployed?

        With a few $k in savings you could live for a year in South America or Asia without having to do anything. The average incomes for many of those countries is around $400 so as someone born in a richer country, you've won the lottery already.

        I fantasize about having enough to live off investments passively forever, according to the 4% rule

        What do you do all day?

        >I went through all of this and the solution is hookers. If you go out with hookers, you’ll encounter other hookers with other dudes. That’s how I met decent people that I hung out with once in awhile.
        >Money is the great social lubricant

        I just dont think "few k$" as OP said is enough to do shit like this. I have around 25$k savings which i guess is enough for few months NEET vegetation in south american or thailand but not enough to actually do something cool, meet cool people, find gf whatever

        I can’t answer that for you, you have to walk your own path and shoulder the psychological burdens of whatever choice you make
        [...]
        I honestly don’t think there is any “”””””entry level””””” remote job. When I’ve perused any remote work job board it’s always FLOODED with Java react node script full stack etc and NOTHING THE FRICK ELSE.

        Give me a job title of one of these fantastic “”””entry level jobs””” that can be done remotely.
        [...]
        You’re never gonna get the permission. You have to either research how to jerry-rig your router to spoof a vpn somewhere else or find someone/pay some IT dork to show you how to do it.

        Unless you’re a 1% giga dorker, nobody’s letting you work overseas. You don’t have leverage at all,

        I do have remote job, but job contract specifically denies to work from other place than specified in my contract (which is my house). I imagine every single work email has in its link some monkeytracker which will report other country IP any time i decided to move out. I can relocate officially but only if it solves some business need

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can also share my experience doing smth similar in a beach town in Mexico, age 23. Stayed for 6 months, then traveled around for a while. I had plenty of friends, social life, fun things to do, lived off about $750-800 per month, had my own motorcycle... It's easy to see that time period as reveling in my youthful freedom, but when I look back on my journal from that time, it's nothing but 'why am I doing nothing all day' and 'I desperately wish I had something to do, to work on, something that means more than chasing whatever whims I have'. I wanted to wake up and know what I was gonna do that day, instead of have to fill my time with random shit. Was basically retired and living in a dream, but completely unfulfilled and utterly bored. Wish I could tell ya ive figured it out since then, but I haven't.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Truth is, you need a project, or something to work on.
      Even if this doesn't get you any money, it's a motivation. Something like "I am going to take pictures of every littles cities in Thailand" is a good guideline.

      If I would do it, it would be to make as much music as possible and to win a few dollars with my music. I don't do it cause I'm too broke for the plane, and I don't want to leave my gf alone for a long time.

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